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I am currently interviewing for a full-time position in a big company named A. A asked me for "professional references". Since my previous experience was an internship at another big company B, similar and in competition to A, it would be natural to put my manager on the top of the list.

However, I turned down the full-time role that my manager offered me at the end of the internship. Then, it will be very delicate for me to ask him to refer me for a very similar role at another company. Especially since if I am not hired at A, I would like to come back to B.

On the other end, if I don't put any professional reference from my internship at B, it would seem strange because this is approximately my only one professional experience (or, at least, by far the most relevant for the position I am applying).

I see 3 solutions:

• Do not put any professional reference from B on the list


• Ask my manager.


• Speak about this with my recruiter at A.

What do you think please?

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asked Dec 3 '14 at 23:27

Arnaud

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closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, yochannah, gnat, Chris E, Garrison Neely Dec 5 '14 at 16:38

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  Are you still working at B? It sounds like you're not.
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  No I am not. This year, I study at the university. The full time offer from B was for next year (2015).
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  Dec 4 '14 at 1:20
  
  

  
  
  
  

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I am currently interviewing for a full-time position in a big company named A. A asked me for "professional references". Since my previous experience was an internship at another big company B, similar and in competition to A, it would be natural to put my manager on the top of the list.

However, I turned down the full-time role that my manager offered me at the end of the internship. Then, it will be very delicate for me to ask him to refer me for a very similar role at another company. Especially since if I am not hired at A, I would like to come back to B.

On the other end, if I don't put any professional reference from my internship at B, it would seem strange because this is approximately my only one professional experience (or, at least, by far the most relevant for the position I am applying).

I see 3 solutions:

• Do not put any professional reference from B on the list


• Ask my manager.


• Speak about this with my recruiter at A.

What do you think please?

interviewing company-culture references

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asked Dec 3 '14 at 23:27

Arnaud

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closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, yochannah, gnat, Chris E, Garrison Neely Dec 5 '14 at 16:38

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• "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Jan Doggen, yochannah, gnat, Chris E, Garrison Neely

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  Are you still working at B? It sounds like you're not.
  – thursdaysgeek
  Dec 4 '14 at 1:00
  

  
  
  
  


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  No I am not. This year, I study at the university. The full time offer from B was for next year (2015).
  – Arnaud
  Dec 4 '14 at 1:20
  
  

  
  
  
  

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I am currently interviewing for a full-time position in a big company named A. A asked me for "professional references". Since my previous experience was an internship at another big company B, similar and in competition to A, it would be natural to put my manager on the top of the list.

However, I turned down the full-time role that my manager offered me at the end of the internship. Then, it will be very delicate for me to ask him to refer me for a very similar role at another company. Especially since if I am not hired at A, I would like to come back to B.

On the other end, if I don't put any professional reference from my internship at B, it would seem strange because this is approximately my only one professional experience (or, at least, by far the most relevant for the position I am applying).

I see 3 solutions:

• Do not put any professional reference from B on the list


• Ask my manager.


• Speak about this with my recruiter at A.

What do you think please?

interviewing company-culture references

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asked Dec 3 '14 at 23:27

Arnaud

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I am currently interviewing for a full-time position in a big company named A. A asked me for "professional references". Since my previous experience was an internship at another big company B, similar and in competition to A, it would be natural to put my manager on the top of the list.

However, I turned down the full-time role that my manager offered me at the end of the internship. Then, it will be very delicate for me to ask him to refer me for a very similar role at another company. Especially since if I am not hired at A, I would like to come back to B.

On the other end, if I don't put any professional reference from my internship at B, it would seem strange because this is approximately my only one professional experience (or, at least, by far the most relevant for the position I am applying).

I see 3 solutions:

• Do not put any professional reference from B on the list


• Ask my manager.


• Speak about this with my recruiter at A.

What do you think please?

interviewing company-culture references

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asked Dec 3 '14 at 23:27

Arnaud

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asked Dec 3 '14 at 23:27

Arnaud

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asked Dec 3 '14 at 23:27

Arnaud

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asked Dec 3 '14 at 23:27

Arnaud

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closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, yochannah, gnat, Chris E, Garrison Neely Dec 5 '14 at 16:38

This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

• "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Jan Doggen, yochannah, gnat, Chris E, Garrison Neely

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closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, yochannah, gnat, Chris E, Garrison Neely Dec 5 '14 at 16:38

This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:

• "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Jan Doggen, yochannah, gnat, Chris E, Garrison Neely

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Are you still working at B? It sounds like you're not.
  – thursdaysgeek
  Dec 4 '14 at 1:00
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  No I am not. This year, I study at the university. The full time offer from B was for next year (2015).
  – Arnaud
  Dec 4 '14 at 1:20
  
  

  
  
  
  

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• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Are you still working at B? It sounds like you're not.
  – thursdaysgeek
  Dec 4 '14 at 1:00
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  No I am not. This year, I study at the university. The full time offer from B was for next year (2015).
  – Arnaud
  Dec 4 '14 at 1:20
  
  

  
  
  
  

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Are you still working at B? It sounds like you're not.
– thursdaysgeek
Dec 4 '14 at 1:00

Are you still working at B? It sounds like you're not.
– thursdaysgeek
Dec 4 '14 at 1:00

No I am not. This year, I study at the university. The full time offer from B was for next year (2015).
– Arnaud
Dec 4 '14 at 1:20

No I am not. This year, I study at the university. The full time offer from B was for next year (2015).
– Arnaud
Dec 4 '14 at 1:20

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Speak to your manager at company B about it. (Indeed, you should always ask permission before listing anyone as a reference or referee.) Assuming you declined the offer professionally and amicably, most managers would happily give a correct and fair reference. People turn down job offers or resign from companies all the time. It is not personal, it is business.

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answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

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  Also, my manager at B will probably guess that if I am not hired at A, I will come back in his team. Don't you fear that he will give a bad feedback about me just for the purpose of me getting rejected from A?
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:27
  

  
  
  
  


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  @Arnaud You know the manager at company B better than everyone here. Only you can make that specific decision. Generally, thinking about managers I have dealt with in US, India and Australia, most will keep it professional. For example, you assume the position you want at Company B will not try to fill that position since you turned it down.
  – akton
  Dec 6 '14 at 0:37
  

  
  
  
  

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up vote
1
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Please talk with your recruiter for A and know below things

1. Can you give reference other than manager?
   
   Some times your colleague at the same level, your senior or mentor also eligible to given reference. Please check with A, you can give other than your manager. If the answer is positive then please give some one you are comfortable and you trust




2. When they will contact the reference that you have given and why?
   
   If they are going to contact before confirm offer and checking references is mandatory to release offer, then honestly explain the situation and convey them the fact that you are interested in Company A and quote the reasons as well. One Caveat here is don't say any thing negative about Company B. If they are going to contact the reference after you join with them, then you can give your manager and have inform your manager at B before you leave company B. I am assuming your relation with your current manager is good and you don't have any conflicts except turning down the offer.

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answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

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  1. My manager is really the obvious reference to give in my case... I was with him all the time, while I had limited contact with other colleagues. 2. They will contact the reference before giving an offer, and I think it is part of the interviewing process.
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:28
  
  

  
  
  
  

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2 Answers
2

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oldest

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active

oldest

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Speak to your manager at company B about it. (Indeed, you should always ask permission before listing anyone as a reference or referee.) Assuming you declined the offer professionally and amicably, most managers would happily give a correct and fair reference. People turn down job offers or resign from companies all the time. It is not personal, it is business.

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

akton

5,4811732

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Also, my manager at B will probably guess that if I am not hired at A, I will come back in his team. Don't you fear that he will give a bad feedback about me just for the purpose of me getting rejected from A?
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:27
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Arnaud You know the manager at company B better than everyone here. Only you can make that specific decision. Generally, thinking about managers I have dealt with in US, India and Australia, most will keep it professional. For example, you assume the position you want at Company B will not try to fill that position since you turned it down.
  – akton
  Dec 6 '14 at 0:37
  

  
  
  
  

suggest improvements | 

up vote
3
down vote

Speak to your manager at company B about it. (Indeed, you should always ask permission before listing anyone as a reference or referee.) Assuming you declined the offer professionally and amicably, most managers would happily give a correct and fair reference. People turn down job offers or resign from companies all the time. It is not personal, it is business.

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

akton

5,4811732

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Also, my manager at B will probably guess that if I am not hired at A, I will come back in his team. Don't you fear that he will give a bad feedback about me just for the purpose of me getting rejected from A?
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:27
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Arnaud You know the manager at company B better than everyone here. Only you can make that specific decision. Generally, thinking about managers I have dealt with in US, India and Australia, most will keep it professional. For example, you assume the position you want at Company B will not try to fill that position since you turned it down.
  – akton
  Dec 6 '14 at 0:37
  

  
  
  
  

suggest improvements | 

up vote
3
down vote

up vote
3
down vote

Speak to your manager at company B about it. (Indeed, you should always ask permission before listing anyone as a reference or referee.) Assuming you declined the offer professionally and amicably, most managers would happily give a correct and fair reference. People turn down job offers or resign from companies all the time. It is not personal, it is business.

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

akton

5,4811732

Speak to your manager at company B about it. (Indeed, you should always ask permission before listing anyone as a reference or referee.) Assuming you declined the offer professionally and amicably, most managers would happily give a correct and fair reference. People turn down job offers or resign from companies all the time. It is not personal, it is business.

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

akton

5,4811732

share|improve this answer

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

akton

5,4811732

answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

akton

5,4811732

answered Dec 4 '14 at 1:30

akton

5,4811732

5,4811732

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Also, my manager at B will probably guess that if I am not hired at A, I will come back in his team. Don't you fear that he will give a bad feedback about me just for the purpose of me getting rejected from A?
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:27
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Arnaud You know the manager at company B better than everyone here. Only you can make that specific decision. Generally, thinking about managers I have dealt with in US, India and Australia, most will keep it professional. For example, you assume the position you want at Company B will not try to fill that position since you turned it down.
  – akton
  Dec 6 '14 at 0:37
  

  
  
  
  

suggest improvements | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Also, my manager at B will probably guess that if I am not hired at A, I will come back in his team. Don't you fear that he will give a bad feedback about me just for the purpose of me getting rejected from A?
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:27
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @Arnaud You know the manager at company B better than everyone here. Only you can make that specific decision. Generally, thinking about managers I have dealt with in US, India and Australia, most will keep it professional. For example, you assume the position you want at Company B will not try to fill that position since you turned it down.
  – akton
  Dec 6 '14 at 0:37
  

  
  
  
  

Also, my manager at B will probably guess that if I am not hired at A, I will come back in his team. Don't you fear that he will give a bad feedback about me just for the purpose of me getting rejected from A?
– Arnaud
Dec 5 '14 at 13:27

Also, my manager at B will probably guess that if I am not hired at A, I will come back in his team. Don't you fear that he will give a bad feedback about me just for the purpose of me getting rejected from A?
– Arnaud
Dec 5 '14 at 13:27

@Arnaud You know the manager at company B better than everyone here. Only you can make that specific decision. Generally, thinking about managers I have dealt with in US, India and Australia, most will keep it professional. For example, you assume the position you want at Company B will not try to fill that position since you turned it down.
– akton
Dec 6 '14 at 0:37

@Arnaud You know the manager at company B better than everyone here. Only you can make that specific decision. Generally, thinking about managers I have dealt with in US, India and Australia, most will keep it professional. For example, you assume the position you want at Company B will not try to fill that position since you turned it down.
– akton
Dec 6 '14 at 0:37

suggest improvements | 

up vote
1
down vote

Please talk with your recruiter for A and know below things

1. Can you give reference other than manager?
   
   Some times your colleague at the same level, your senior or mentor also eligible to given reference. Please check with A, you can give other than your manager. If the answer is positive then please give some one you are comfortable and you trust




2. When they will contact the reference that you have given and why?
   
   If they are going to contact before confirm offer and checking references is mandatory to release offer, then honestly explain the situation and convey them the fact that you are interested in Company A and quote the reasons as well. One Caveat here is don't say any thing negative about Company B. If they are going to contact the reference after you join with them, then you can give your manager and have inform your manager at B before you leave company B. I am assuming your relation with your current manager is good and you don't have any conflicts except turning down the offer.

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

3,28332059

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  1. My manager is really the obvious reference to give in my case... I was with him all the time, while I had limited contact with other colleagues. 2. They will contact the reference before giving an offer, and I think it is part of the interviewing process.
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:28
  
  

  
  
  
  

suggest improvements | 

up vote
1
down vote

Please talk with your recruiter for A and know below things

1. Can you give reference other than manager?
   
   Some times your colleague at the same level, your senior or mentor also eligible to given reference. Please check with A, you can give other than your manager. If the answer is positive then please give some one you are comfortable and you trust




2. When they will contact the reference that you have given and why?
   
   If they are going to contact before confirm offer and checking references is mandatory to release offer, then honestly explain the situation and convey them the fact that you are interested in Company A and quote the reasons as well. One Caveat here is don't say any thing negative about Company B. If they are going to contact the reference after you join with them, then you can give your manager and have inform your manager at B before you leave company B. I am assuming your relation with your current manager is good and you don't have any conflicts except turning down the offer.

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

3,28332059

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  1. My manager is really the obvious reference to give in my case... I was with him all the time, while I had limited contact with other colleagues. 2. They will contact the reference before giving an offer, and I think it is part of the interviewing process.
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:28
  
  

  
  
  
  

suggest improvements | 

up vote
1
down vote

up vote
1
down vote

Please talk with your recruiter for A and know below things

1. Can you give reference other than manager?
   
   Some times your colleague at the same level, your senior or mentor also eligible to given reference. Please check with A, you can give other than your manager. If the answer is positive then please give some one you are comfortable and you trust




2. When they will contact the reference that you have given and why?
   
   If they are going to contact before confirm offer and checking references is mandatory to release offer, then honestly explain the situation and convey them the fact that you are interested in Company A and quote the reasons as well. One Caveat here is don't say any thing negative about Company B. If they are going to contact the reference after you join with them, then you can give your manager and have inform your manager at B before you leave company B. I am assuming your relation with your current manager is good and you don't have any conflicts except turning down the offer.

share|improve this answer

answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

3,28332059

Please talk with your recruiter for A and know below things

1. Can you give reference other than manager?
   
   Some times your colleague at the same level, your senior or mentor also eligible to given reference. Please check with A, you can give other than your manager. If the answer is positive then please give some one you are comfortable and you trust




2. When they will contact the reference that you have given and why?
   
   If they are going to contact before confirm offer and checking references is mandatory to release offer, then honestly explain the situation and convey them the fact that you are interested in Company A and quote the reasons as well. One Caveat here is don't say any thing negative about Company B. If they are going to contact the reference after you join with them, then you can give your manager and have inform your manager at B before you leave company B. I am assuming your relation with your current manager is good and you don't have any conflicts except turning down the offer.

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answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

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answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

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answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

3,28332059

answered Dec 4 '14 at 5:24

Babu

3,28332059

3,28332059

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  1. My manager is really the obvious reference to give in my case... I was with him all the time, while I had limited contact with other colleagues. 2. They will contact the reference before giving an offer, and I think it is part of the interviewing process.
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:28
  
  

  
  
  
  

suggest improvements | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  1. My manager is really the obvious reference to give in my case... I was with him all the time, while I had limited contact with other colleagues. 2. They will contact the reference before giving an offer, and I think it is part of the interviewing process.
  – Arnaud
  Dec 5 '14 at 13:28
  
  

  
  
  
  

1. My manager is really the obvious reference to give in my case... I was with him all the time, while I had limited contact with other colleagues. 2. They will contact the reference before giving an offer, and I think it is part of the interviewing process.
– Arnaud
Dec 5 '14 at 13:28

1. My manager is really the obvious reference to give in my case... I was with him all the time, while I had limited contact with other colleagues. 2. They will contact the reference before giving an offer, and I think it is part of the interviewing process.
– Arnaud
Dec 5 '14 at 13:28

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