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I joined this company 2 months back. I felt a negative vibe on the first day of my job. Also, reviews of the company on Glassdoor were not so good.
However, I thought I should give it a try because recruiters say it is a very good company.
After I started learning their work, I did not enjoy it so much, and it was not so much fun for me. And so I slagged myself, and did not take initiative.
Also, my manager gets very personal on every single thing that happens. I ignored that for a few days as I thought, we are from different countries and are not able to understand each other properly.
But, after my one-one review, I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally, and the reason for me not involving so much in the project to use in future to sack me.
I am already tired of the work politics going on all the time, and backstabbing.
I do not know how to make him "move on" from the past events, and if he ever will.
I have obviously started looking out for jobs, but do not want to leave without a job in hand.
Is this a good decision or should I leave the company immediately?Or should I try harder to fit in the company as it has been only 2 months?
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I joined this company 2 months back. I felt a negative vibe on the first day of my job. Also, reviews of the company on Glassdoor were not so good.
However, I thought I should give it a try because recruiters say it is a very good company.
After I started learning their work, I did not enjoy it so much, and it was not so much fun for me. And so I slagged myself, and did not take initiative.
Also, my manager gets very personal on every single thing that happens. I ignored that for a few days as I thought, we are from different countries and are not able to understand each other properly.
But, after my one-one review, I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally, and the reason for me not involving so much in the project to use in future to sack me.
I am already tired of the work politics going on all the time, and backstabbing.
I do not know how to make him "move on" from the past events, and if he ever will.
I have obviously started looking out for jobs, but do not want to leave without a job in hand.
Is this a good decision or should I leave the company immediately?Or should I try harder to fit in the company as it has been only 2 months?
job-search new-job resignation probation
closed as off-topic by gnat, Jim G., IDrinkandIKnowThings, Jan Doggen, Michael Grubey Oct 27 '14 at 16:59
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What you are not seeing is that you need to change your behavior not expect your manager to do so. Your manager determines if you are fired or what pay raises you get, what work you are assigned, etc. It is incumbent on you to meet his expectations not the other way around. I personally would try to fix this before moving on just becasue if you continue in this unrealistic path (there are no companies without politics for instance and work is not generally fun, you have to do you job even when it isn't) then you will be unhappy everywhere.
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I joined this company 2 months back. I felt a negative vibe on the first day of my job. Also, reviews of the company on Glassdoor were not so good.
However, I thought I should give it a try because recruiters say it is a very good company.
After I started learning their work, I did not enjoy it so much, and it was not so much fun for me. And so I slagged myself, and did not take initiative.
Also, my manager gets very personal on every single thing that happens. I ignored that for a few days as I thought, we are from different countries and are not able to understand each other properly.
But, after my one-one review, I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally, and the reason for me not involving so much in the project to use in future to sack me.
I am already tired of the work politics going on all the time, and backstabbing.
I do not know how to make him "move on" from the past events, and if he ever will.
I have obviously started looking out for jobs, but do not want to leave without a job in hand.
Is this a good decision or should I leave the company immediately?Or should I try harder to fit in the company as it has been only 2 months?
job-search new-job resignation probation
I joined this company 2 months back. I felt a negative vibe on the first day of my job. Also, reviews of the company on Glassdoor were not so good.
However, I thought I should give it a try because recruiters say it is a very good company.
After I started learning their work, I did not enjoy it so much, and it was not so much fun for me. And so I slagged myself, and did not take initiative.
Also, my manager gets very personal on every single thing that happens. I ignored that for a few days as I thought, we are from different countries and are not able to understand each other properly.
But, after my one-one review, I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally, and the reason for me not involving so much in the project to use in future to sack me.
I am already tired of the work politics going on all the time, and backstabbing.
I do not know how to make him "move on" from the past events, and if he ever will.
I have obviously started looking out for jobs, but do not want to leave without a job in hand.
Is this a good decision or should I leave the company immediately?Or should I try harder to fit in the company as it has been only 2 months?
job-search new-job resignation probation
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What you are not seeing is that you need to change your behavior not expect your manager to do so. Your manager determines if you are fired or what pay raises you get, what work you are assigned, etc. It is incumbent on you to meet his expectations not the other way around. I personally would try to fix this before moving on just becasue if you continue in this unrealistic path (there are no companies without politics for instance and work is not generally fun, you have to do you job even when it isn't) then you will be unhappy everywhere.
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Oct 27 '14 at 20:52
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What you are not seeing is that you need to change your behavior not expect your manager to do so. Your manager determines if you are fired or what pay raises you get, what work you are assigned, etc. It is incumbent on you to meet his expectations not the other way around. I personally would try to fix this before moving on just becasue if you continue in this unrealistic path (there are no companies without politics for instance and work is not generally fun, you have to do you job even when it isn't) then you will be unhappy everywhere.
â HLGEM
Oct 27 '14 at 20:52
What you are not seeing is that you need to change your behavior not expect your manager to do so. Your manager determines if you are fired or what pay raises you get, what work you are assigned, etc. It is incumbent on you to meet his expectations not the other way around. I personally would try to fix this before moving on just becasue if you continue in this unrealistic path (there are no companies without politics for instance and work is not generally fun, you have to do you job even when it isn't) then you will be unhappy everywhere.
â HLGEM
Oct 27 '14 at 20:52
What you are not seeing is that you need to change your behavior not expect your manager to do so. Your manager determines if you are fired or what pay raises you get, what work you are assigned, etc. It is incumbent on you to meet his expectations not the other way around. I personally would try to fix this before moving on just becasue if you continue in this unrealistic path (there are no companies without politics for instance and work is not generally fun, you have to do you job even when it isn't) then you will be unhappy everywhere.
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Oct 27 '14 at 20:52
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"... I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally ..."
What events? You are not disclosing key info. In American English, we call this "skeletons rattling in the closet". You have several skeletons in the closet, and we all wondering (a) how is it that they became skeletons and (b) what the hell they are doing being in your closet. I don't think we can give you specific advice and go through your options without the info you are not volunteering to disclose.
Your manager clearly has a different viewpoint of your shortcomings and for the purpose of assessing the likelihood of your continued employment, the only viewpoint that counts is your manager's viewpoint. The very fact that you see your manager's viewpoint as taking your sins of commission and omission too personally - that's an indicator to me that you have no intention of taking corrective action on the issues your manager raised during your one-on-one review. This means you are headed straight for the door, pal.
I'd take generalized reviews like Glassdoor with a grain of salt. Horribly run companies may have well run subdivisions or departments. The converse is true, well run companies may have poorly run subdivisions or departments. I consulted once for a Fortune 500 that usually wins plaudits for its management. Unfortunately, the subdivision I worked in was probably the worst-run subdivision of the company. It's not healthy to believe everything you read.
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If you're genuinely unhappy at your position, then it's definitely time to start looking to greener pastures.
Being unhappy at your job hurts both you and the company for these reasons:
- You're less satisfied to accomplish the company's milestones
- You see less value in the knowledge of the software you're using and more pain in the environment
- You're not enjoying yourself, which leads to friction (visible or not) between your management team
You know your comfort level at a position better than anyone else ever could. If you genuinely feel that this isn't a good fit for you, then don't feel ashamed about leaving. If you wind up placing this job on your resume, you will have to defend your considerably short tenure there, though.
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The thing to bear in mind for me is that it will reflect on you at your next interview. This isn't necessarily negative, but you need to be able to explain clearly, and in a way that doesn't sound like a complaint, why you were only at your new company for 2 months.
Personally, if I felt that I wasn't enjoying it at all after 2 months I'd look for other positions. At the interview I'd explain that it wasn't a good fit personally and that while I felt I get on with most people, I wasn't happy with the culture. If possible, I'd do my research on the new company and explain why I feel their culture is different (also a good time to subtly flatter an interviewer).
A couple of months is a good time, because it shows you've recognised it was a mistake but have given it a chance without letting things go on too long. Joining your current company was a mistake, don't hide that, explain how you do think it was a mistake, and that you're a person who looks to learn from mistakes.
One of these on a CV (and in a couple of jobs time I'd just drop it from my cv entirely, the gap wouldn't look too unusual) won't overly harm your prospects, as long as you show a reasonable amount of longevity in other roles
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stay in the role, you don't seem to be in mental or physical distress.
Look for other jobs, live frugally in case they shoot you out the door sooner than thought.
I would try to fit in while you're there, because
1. good practice and character building,
2. might keep you around longer,
but in the end find a new role, and do it quick.
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4 Answers
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"... I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally ..."
What events? You are not disclosing key info. In American English, we call this "skeletons rattling in the closet". You have several skeletons in the closet, and we all wondering (a) how is it that they became skeletons and (b) what the hell they are doing being in your closet. I don't think we can give you specific advice and go through your options without the info you are not volunteering to disclose.
Your manager clearly has a different viewpoint of your shortcomings and for the purpose of assessing the likelihood of your continued employment, the only viewpoint that counts is your manager's viewpoint. The very fact that you see your manager's viewpoint as taking your sins of commission and omission too personally - that's an indicator to me that you have no intention of taking corrective action on the issues your manager raised during your one-on-one review. This means you are headed straight for the door, pal.
I'd take generalized reviews like Glassdoor with a grain of salt. Horribly run companies may have well run subdivisions or departments. The converse is true, well run companies may have poorly run subdivisions or departments. I consulted once for a Fortune 500 that usually wins plaudits for its management. Unfortunately, the subdivision I worked in was probably the worst-run subdivision of the company. It's not healthy to believe everything you read.
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"... I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally ..."
What events? You are not disclosing key info. In American English, we call this "skeletons rattling in the closet". You have several skeletons in the closet, and we all wondering (a) how is it that they became skeletons and (b) what the hell they are doing being in your closet. I don't think we can give you specific advice and go through your options without the info you are not volunteering to disclose.
Your manager clearly has a different viewpoint of your shortcomings and for the purpose of assessing the likelihood of your continued employment, the only viewpoint that counts is your manager's viewpoint. The very fact that you see your manager's viewpoint as taking your sins of commission and omission too personally - that's an indicator to me that you have no intention of taking corrective action on the issues your manager raised during your one-on-one review. This means you are headed straight for the door, pal.
I'd take generalized reviews like Glassdoor with a grain of salt. Horribly run companies may have well run subdivisions or departments. The converse is true, well run companies may have poorly run subdivisions or departments. I consulted once for a Fortune 500 that usually wins plaudits for its management. Unfortunately, the subdivision I worked in was probably the worst-run subdivision of the company. It's not healthy to believe everything you read.
suggest improvements |Â
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2
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up vote
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"... I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally ..."
What events? You are not disclosing key info. In American English, we call this "skeletons rattling in the closet". You have several skeletons in the closet, and we all wondering (a) how is it that they became skeletons and (b) what the hell they are doing being in your closet. I don't think we can give you specific advice and go through your options without the info you are not volunteering to disclose.
Your manager clearly has a different viewpoint of your shortcomings and for the purpose of assessing the likelihood of your continued employment, the only viewpoint that counts is your manager's viewpoint. The very fact that you see your manager's viewpoint as taking your sins of commission and omission too personally - that's an indicator to me that you have no intention of taking corrective action on the issues your manager raised during your one-on-one review. This means you are headed straight for the door, pal.
I'd take generalized reviews like Glassdoor with a grain of salt. Horribly run companies may have well run subdivisions or departments. The converse is true, well run companies may have poorly run subdivisions or departments. I consulted once for a Fortune 500 that usually wins plaudits for its management. Unfortunately, the subdivision I worked in was probably the worst-run subdivision of the company. It's not healthy to believe everything you read.
"... I realised that the manager has taken all those events that made him feel bad about me too personally ..."
What events? You are not disclosing key info. In American English, we call this "skeletons rattling in the closet". You have several skeletons in the closet, and we all wondering (a) how is it that they became skeletons and (b) what the hell they are doing being in your closet. I don't think we can give you specific advice and go through your options without the info you are not volunteering to disclose.
Your manager clearly has a different viewpoint of your shortcomings and for the purpose of assessing the likelihood of your continued employment, the only viewpoint that counts is your manager's viewpoint. The very fact that you see your manager's viewpoint as taking your sins of commission and omission too personally - that's an indicator to me that you have no intention of taking corrective action on the issues your manager raised during your one-on-one review. This means you are headed straight for the door, pal.
I'd take generalized reviews like Glassdoor with a grain of salt. Horribly run companies may have well run subdivisions or departments. The converse is true, well run companies may have poorly run subdivisions or departments. I consulted once for a Fortune 500 that usually wins plaudits for its management. Unfortunately, the subdivision I worked in was probably the worst-run subdivision of the company. It's not healthy to believe everything you read.
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answered Oct 25 '14 at 11:17
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If you're genuinely unhappy at your position, then it's definitely time to start looking to greener pastures.
Being unhappy at your job hurts both you and the company for these reasons:
- You're less satisfied to accomplish the company's milestones
- You see less value in the knowledge of the software you're using and more pain in the environment
- You're not enjoying yourself, which leads to friction (visible or not) between your management team
You know your comfort level at a position better than anyone else ever could. If you genuinely feel that this isn't a good fit for you, then don't feel ashamed about leaving. If you wind up placing this job on your resume, you will have to defend your considerably short tenure there, though.
suggest improvements |Â
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If you're genuinely unhappy at your position, then it's definitely time to start looking to greener pastures.
Being unhappy at your job hurts both you and the company for these reasons:
- You're less satisfied to accomplish the company's milestones
- You see less value in the knowledge of the software you're using and more pain in the environment
- You're not enjoying yourself, which leads to friction (visible or not) between your management team
You know your comfort level at a position better than anyone else ever could. If you genuinely feel that this isn't a good fit for you, then don't feel ashamed about leaving. If you wind up placing this job on your resume, you will have to defend your considerably short tenure there, though.
suggest improvements |Â
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up vote
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If you're genuinely unhappy at your position, then it's definitely time to start looking to greener pastures.
Being unhappy at your job hurts both you and the company for these reasons:
- You're less satisfied to accomplish the company's milestones
- You see less value in the knowledge of the software you're using and more pain in the environment
- You're not enjoying yourself, which leads to friction (visible or not) between your management team
You know your comfort level at a position better than anyone else ever could. If you genuinely feel that this isn't a good fit for you, then don't feel ashamed about leaving. If you wind up placing this job on your resume, you will have to defend your considerably short tenure there, though.
If you're genuinely unhappy at your position, then it's definitely time to start looking to greener pastures.
Being unhappy at your job hurts both you and the company for these reasons:
- You're less satisfied to accomplish the company's milestones
- You see less value in the knowledge of the software you're using and more pain in the environment
- You're not enjoying yourself, which leads to friction (visible or not) between your management team
You know your comfort level at a position better than anyone else ever could. If you genuinely feel that this isn't a good fit for you, then don't feel ashamed about leaving. If you wind up placing this job on your resume, you will have to defend your considerably short tenure there, though.
answered Oct 25 '14 at 15:44
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The thing to bear in mind for me is that it will reflect on you at your next interview. This isn't necessarily negative, but you need to be able to explain clearly, and in a way that doesn't sound like a complaint, why you were only at your new company for 2 months.
Personally, if I felt that I wasn't enjoying it at all after 2 months I'd look for other positions. At the interview I'd explain that it wasn't a good fit personally and that while I felt I get on with most people, I wasn't happy with the culture. If possible, I'd do my research on the new company and explain why I feel their culture is different (also a good time to subtly flatter an interviewer).
A couple of months is a good time, because it shows you've recognised it was a mistake but have given it a chance without letting things go on too long. Joining your current company was a mistake, don't hide that, explain how you do think it was a mistake, and that you're a person who looks to learn from mistakes.
One of these on a CV (and in a couple of jobs time I'd just drop it from my cv entirely, the gap wouldn't look too unusual) won't overly harm your prospects, as long as you show a reasonable amount of longevity in other roles
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The thing to bear in mind for me is that it will reflect on you at your next interview. This isn't necessarily negative, but you need to be able to explain clearly, and in a way that doesn't sound like a complaint, why you were only at your new company for 2 months.
Personally, if I felt that I wasn't enjoying it at all after 2 months I'd look for other positions. At the interview I'd explain that it wasn't a good fit personally and that while I felt I get on with most people, I wasn't happy with the culture. If possible, I'd do my research on the new company and explain why I feel their culture is different (also a good time to subtly flatter an interviewer).
A couple of months is a good time, because it shows you've recognised it was a mistake but have given it a chance without letting things go on too long. Joining your current company was a mistake, don't hide that, explain how you do think it was a mistake, and that you're a person who looks to learn from mistakes.
One of these on a CV (and in a couple of jobs time I'd just drop it from my cv entirely, the gap wouldn't look too unusual) won't overly harm your prospects, as long as you show a reasonable amount of longevity in other roles
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The thing to bear in mind for me is that it will reflect on you at your next interview. This isn't necessarily negative, but you need to be able to explain clearly, and in a way that doesn't sound like a complaint, why you were only at your new company for 2 months.
Personally, if I felt that I wasn't enjoying it at all after 2 months I'd look for other positions. At the interview I'd explain that it wasn't a good fit personally and that while I felt I get on with most people, I wasn't happy with the culture. If possible, I'd do my research on the new company and explain why I feel their culture is different (also a good time to subtly flatter an interviewer).
A couple of months is a good time, because it shows you've recognised it was a mistake but have given it a chance without letting things go on too long. Joining your current company was a mistake, don't hide that, explain how you do think it was a mistake, and that you're a person who looks to learn from mistakes.
One of these on a CV (and in a couple of jobs time I'd just drop it from my cv entirely, the gap wouldn't look too unusual) won't overly harm your prospects, as long as you show a reasonable amount of longevity in other roles
The thing to bear in mind for me is that it will reflect on you at your next interview. This isn't necessarily negative, but you need to be able to explain clearly, and in a way that doesn't sound like a complaint, why you were only at your new company for 2 months.
Personally, if I felt that I wasn't enjoying it at all after 2 months I'd look for other positions. At the interview I'd explain that it wasn't a good fit personally and that while I felt I get on with most people, I wasn't happy with the culture. If possible, I'd do my research on the new company and explain why I feel their culture is different (also a good time to subtly flatter an interviewer).
A couple of months is a good time, because it shows you've recognised it was a mistake but have given it a chance without letting things go on too long. Joining your current company was a mistake, don't hide that, explain how you do think it was a mistake, and that you're a person who looks to learn from mistakes.
One of these on a CV (and in a couple of jobs time I'd just drop it from my cv entirely, the gap wouldn't look too unusual) won't overly harm your prospects, as long as you show a reasonable amount of longevity in other roles
answered Oct 26 '14 at 23:06
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stay in the role, you don't seem to be in mental or physical distress.
Look for other jobs, live frugally in case they shoot you out the door sooner than thought.
I would try to fit in while you're there, because
1. good practice and character building,
2. might keep you around longer,
but in the end find a new role, and do it quick.
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stay in the role, you don't seem to be in mental or physical distress.
Look for other jobs, live frugally in case they shoot you out the door sooner than thought.
I would try to fit in while you're there, because
1. good practice and character building,
2. might keep you around longer,
but in the end find a new role, and do it quick.
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stay in the role, you don't seem to be in mental or physical distress.
Look for other jobs, live frugally in case they shoot you out the door sooner than thought.
I would try to fit in while you're there, because
1. good practice and character building,
2. might keep you around longer,
but in the end find a new role, and do it quick.
stay in the role, you don't seem to be in mental or physical distress.
Look for other jobs, live frugally in case they shoot you out the door sooner than thought.
I would try to fit in while you're there, because
1. good practice and character building,
2. might keep you around longer,
but in the end find a new role, and do it quick.
answered Oct 25 '14 at 13:36
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What you are not seeing is that you need to change your behavior not expect your manager to do so. Your manager determines if you are fired or what pay raises you get, what work you are assigned, etc. It is incumbent on you to meet his expectations not the other way around. I personally would try to fix this before moving on just becasue if you continue in this unrealistic path (there are no companies without politics for instance and work is not generally fun, you have to do you job even when it isn't) then you will be unhappy everywhere.
â HLGEM
Oct 27 '14 at 20:52