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I wouldn't say I'm old, but I'll certainly be getting there soon enough. I was reviewing my resume today, is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
I've got 4 jobs listed on my resume (spanning 10 years), and it does not include the two jobs before that after college anymore. I've got a top university 4 year degree in my field, but at this point it is at the bottom of the resume after experience. It's dates will forever indicate my age, and I find increasingly speak to initial HR people and colleagues that are several years younger than me these days.
Should I remove the years on my college experience or is that inappropriate for a resume?
This is not an age discrimination issue as much as it is an appropriateness or normality of excluding years as one gets older. They'll obviously know my age when interviewing me, within a range.
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I wouldn't say I'm old, but I'll certainly be getting there soon enough. I was reviewing my resume today, is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
I've got 4 jobs listed on my resume (spanning 10 years), and it does not include the two jobs before that after college anymore. I've got a top university 4 year degree in my field, but at this point it is at the bottom of the resume after experience. It's dates will forever indicate my age, and I find increasingly speak to initial HR people and colleagues that are several years younger than me these days.
Should I remove the years on my college experience or is that inappropriate for a resume?
This is not an age discrimination issue as much as it is an appropriateness or normality of excluding years as one gets older. They'll obviously know my age when interviewing me, within a range.
resume
asked Oct 31 '14 at 16:59
Miro
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marked as duplicate by user8365, gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, NotMe Nov 6 '14 at 18:09
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No idea. I don't remove my dates and I am probably ten years older than you - I like to tell people including interviewers that I've gone from young, stone cold handsome and stupid to just stupid :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 31 '14 at 17:07
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Is there an actual age issue here or are you just asking whether old experience information is still useful? Please edit. If it's the age issue this question is indeed a duplicate.
– Jan Doggen
Oct 31 '14 at 18:40
I do not believe a question about age discrimination questions at an interview and a question about resume styling for years are entirely the same. I already the read the other question before asking this, and it didn't answer my question.
– Miro
Oct 31 '14 at 19:22
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I wouldn't say I'm old, but I'll certainly be getting there soon enough. I was reviewing my resume today, is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
I've got 4 jobs listed on my resume (spanning 10 years), and it does not include the two jobs before that after college anymore. I've got a top university 4 year degree in my field, but at this point it is at the bottom of the resume after experience. It's dates will forever indicate my age, and I find increasingly speak to initial HR people and colleagues that are several years younger than me these days.
Should I remove the years on my college experience or is that inappropriate for a resume?
This is not an age discrimination issue as much as it is an appropriateness or normality of excluding years as one gets older. They'll obviously know my age when interviewing me, within a range.
resume
asked Oct 31 '14 at 16:59
Miro
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This question already has an answer here:
Side-stepping age discrimination with graduation year
4 answers
I wouldn't say I'm old, but I'll certainly be getting there soon enough. I was reviewing my resume today, is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
I've got 4 jobs listed on my resume (spanning 10 years), and it does not include the two jobs before that after college anymore. I've got a top university 4 year degree in my field, but at this point it is at the bottom of the resume after experience. It's dates will forever indicate my age, and I find increasingly speak to initial HR people and colleagues that are several years younger than me these days.
Should I remove the years on my college experience or is that inappropriate for a resume?
This is not an age discrimination issue as much as it is an appropriateness or normality of excluding years as one gets older. They'll obviously know my age when interviewing me, within a range.
This question already has an answer here:
Side-stepping age discrimination with graduation year
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asked Oct 31 '14 at 16:59
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asked Oct 31 '14 at 16:59
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asked Oct 31 '14 at 16:59
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asked Oct 31 '14 at 16:59
Miro
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marked as duplicate by user8365, gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, NotMe Nov 6 '14 at 18:09
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No idea. I don't remove my dates and I am probably ten years older than you - I like to tell people including interviewers that I've gone from young, stone cold handsome and stupid to just stupid :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 31 '14 at 17:07
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Is there an actual age issue here or are you just asking whether old experience information is still useful? Please edit. If it's the age issue this question is indeed a duplicate.
– Jan Doggen
Oct 31 '14 at 18:40
I do not believe a question about age discrimination questions at an interview and a question about resume styling for years are entirely the same. I already the read the other question before asking this, and it didn't answer my question.
– Miro
Oct 31 '14 at 19:22
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No idea. I don't remove my dates and I am probably ten years older than you - I like to tell people including interviewers that I've gone from young, stone cold handsome and stupid to just stupid :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 31 '14 at 17:07
1
Is there an actual age issue here or are you just asking whether old experience information is still useful? Please edit. If it's the age issue this question is indeed a duplicate.
– Jan Doggen
Oct 31 '14 at 18:40
I do not believe a question about age discrimination questions at an interview and a question about resume styling for years are entirely the same. I already the read the other question before asking this, and it didn't answer my question.
– Miro
Oct 31 '14 at 19:22
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No idea. I don't remove my dates and I am probably ten years older than you - I like to tell people including interviewers that I've gone from young, stone cold handsome and stupid to just stupid :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 31 '14 at 17:07
No idea. I don't remove my dates and I am probably ten years older than you - I like to tell people including interviewers that I've gone from young, stone cold handsome and stupid to just stupid :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 31 '14 at 17:07
1
1
Is there an actual age issue here or are you just asking whether old experience information is still useful? Please edit. If it's the age issue this question is indeed a duplicate.
– Jan Doggen
Oct 31 '14 at 18:40
Is there an actual age issue here or are you just asking whether old experience information is still useful? Please edit. If it's the age issue this question is indeed a duplicate.
– Jan Doggen
Oct 31 '14 at 18:40
I do not believe a question about age discrimination questions at an interview and a question about resume styling for years are entirely the same. I already the read the other question before asking this, and it didn't answer my question.
– Miro
Oct 31 '14 at 19:22
I do not believe a question about age discrimination questions at an interview and a question about resume styling for years are entirely the same. I already the read the other question before asking this, and it didn't answer my question.
– Miro
Oct 31 '14 at 19:22
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is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their
college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
Yes.
There are no rules saying that you must put graduation dates on your resume.
Thus, at whatever point you personally feel this might be hindering you - that's the point at which you should remove the dates from your education items. As I got older, I removed the graduation dates from my resume for the same reasons you are expressing.
Resume readers almost never care when you attended college and graduated - just that you did. These dates typically add no value. Once you have a few jobs under your belt, the year you graduated is pretty much meaningless.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
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I have seen it go both ways on degrees. Generally I think it being there is "nice, but not always necessary" If you're a fresh grad I'd say absolutely you want it there... but when you start creeping up to ten years exp... It might be a point of interest or can be nice to have that info at hand, but it wouldn't be a negative if it wasn't there.
– RualStorge
Oct 31 '14 at 19:34
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I would put everything. They're already going to find out you're older when they interview you so be proud of it and list everything. I'm 47 and my resume goes back to 1986 with relevant experience.
College is certainly relevant and even though I've been writing software for over 25 years, I still get asked "where did you go to school?" when I actually don't have a degree. It's likely you'll start getting questions like I get if you leave it out.
I would add that you probably don't want to work for someone who would discriminate based on age anyway. I know I wouldn't. We're not older, we're experienced.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
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Good point about everything. I have my earlier (but relevant) jobs all the way back. I am the oldest person in our office and probably in the top 5% age wise in my company (and I am still in my 40's). I didn't get any sense of age discrimination when interviewing.
– Bill Leeper
Oct 31 '14 at 17:37
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There's rarely any upside to including graduation dates on your resume. A recruiter or hiring manger doing a quick scan might see fairly old dates and think "that's a while ago - could it be obsolete?". If the degree type and school are prestigious and appropriate for your industry, leave that on the resume, but the dates are rarely going to help.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 19:55
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is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their
college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
Yes.
There are no rules saying that you must put graduation dates on your resume.
Thus, at whatever point you personally feel this might be hindering you - that's the point at which you should remove the dates from your education items. As I got older, I removed the graduation dates from my resume for the same reasons you are expressing.
Resume readers almost never care when you attended college and graduated - just that you did. These dates typically add no value. Once you have a few jobs under your belt, the year you graduated is pretty much meaningless.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
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I have seen it go both ways on degrees. Generally I think it being there is "nice, but not always necessary" If you're a fresh grad I'd say absolutely you want it there... but when you start creeping up to ten years exp... It might be a point of interest or can be nice to have that info at hand, but it wouldn't be a negative if it wasn't there.
– RualStorge
Oct 31 '14 at 19:34
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is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their
college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
Yes.
There are no rules saying that you must put graduation dates on your resume.
Thus, at whatever point you personally feel this might be hindering you - that's the point at which you should remove the dates from your education items. As I got older, I removed the graduation dates from my resume for the same reasons you are expressing.
Resume readers almost never care when you attended college and graduated - just that you did. These dates typically add no value. Once you have a few jobs under your belt, the year you graduated is pretty much meaningless.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
223k106657924
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I have seen it go both ways on degrees. Generally I think it being there is "nice, but not always necessary" If you're a fresh grad I'd say absolutely you want it there... but when you start creeping up to ten years exp... It might be a point of interest or can be nice to have that info at hand, but it wouldn't be a negative if it wasn't there.
– RualStorge
Oct 31 '14 at 19:34
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up vote
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up vote
6
down vote
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is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their
college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
Yes.
There are no rules saying that you must put graduation dates on your resume.
Thus, at whatever point you personally feel this might be hindering you - that's the point at which you should remove the dates from your education items. As I got older, I removed the graduation dates from my resume for the same reasons you are expressing.
Resume readers almost never care when you attended college and graduated - just that you did. These dates typically add no value. Once you have a few jobs under your belt, the year you graduated is pretty much meaningless.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
223k106657924
is there ever a point where a job candidate should not list their
college years or graduation dates because it is so far back?
Yes.
There are no rules saying that you must put graduation dates on your resume.
Thus, at whatever point you personally feel this might be hindering you - that's the point at which you should remove the dates from your education items. As I got older, I removed the graduation dates from my resume for the same reasons you are expressing.
Resume readers almost never care when you attended college and graduated - just that you did. These dates typically add no value. Once you have a few jobs under your belt, the year you graduated is pretty much meaningless.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
223k106657924
edited Jun 23 '15 at 11:12
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
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answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
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answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:27
Joe Strazzere
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223k106657924
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I have seen it go both ways on degrees. Generally I think it being there is "nice, but not always necessary" If you're a fresh grad I'd say absolutely you want it there... but when you start creeping up to ten years exp... It might be a point of interest or can be nice to have that info at hand, but it wouldn't be a negative if it wasn't there.
– RualStorge
Oct 31 '14 at 19:34
suggest improvements |Â
3
I have seen it go both ways on degrees. Generally I think it being there is "nice, but not always necessary" If you're a fresh grad I'd say absolutely you want it there... but when you start creeping up to ten years exp... It might be a point of interest or can be nice to have that info at hand, but it wouldn't be a negative if it wasn't there.
– RualStorge
Oct 31 '14 at 19:34
3
3
I have seen it go both ways on degrees. Generally I think it being there is "nice, but not always necessary" If you're a fresh grad I'd say absolutely you want it there... but when you start creeping up to ten years exp... It might be a point of interest or can be nice to have that info at hand, but it wouldn't be a negative if it wasn't there.
– RualStorge
Oct 31 '14 at 19:34
I have seen it go both ways on degrees. Generally I think it being there is "nice, but not always necessary" If you're a fresh grad I'd say absolutely you want it there... but when you start creeping up to ten years exp... It might be a point of interest or can be nice to have that info at hand, but it wouldn't be a negative if it wasn't there.
– RualStorge
Oct 31 '14 at 19:34
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I would put everything. They're already going to find out you're older when they interview you so be proud of it and list everything. I'm 47 and my resume goes back to 1986 with relevant experience.
College is certainly relevant and even though I've been writing software for over 25 years, I still get asked "where did you go to school?" when I actually don't have a degree. It's likely you'll start getting questions like I get if you leave it out.
I would add that you probably don't want to work for someone who would discriminate based on age anyway. I know I wouldn't. We're not older, we're experienced.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
40.5k22129166
Good point about everything. I have my earlier (but relevant) jobs all the way back. I am the oldest person in our office and probably in the top 5% age wise in my company (and I am still in my 40's). I didn't get any sense of age discrimination when interviewing.
– Bill Leeper
Oct 31 '14 at 17:37
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
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I would put everything. They're already going to find out you're older when they interview you so be proud of it and list everything. I'm 47 and my resume goes back to 1986 with relevant experience.
College is certainly relevant and even though I've been writing software for over 25 years, I still get asked "where did you go to school?" when I actually don't have a degree. It's likely you'll start getting questions like I get if you leave it out.
I would add that you probably don't want to work for someone who would discriminate based on age anyway. I know I wouldn't. We're not older, we're experienced.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
40.5k22129166
Good point about everything. I have my earlier (but relevant) jobs all the way back. I am the oldest person in our office and probably in the top 5% age wise in my company (and I am still in my 40's). I didn't get any sense of age discrimination when interviewing.
– Bill Leeper
Oct 31 '14 at 17:37
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up vote
2
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I would put everything. They're already going to find out you're older when they interview you so be proud of it and list everything. I'm 47 and my resume goes back to 1986 with relevant experience.
College is certainly relevant and even though I've been writing software for over 25 years, I still get asked "where did you go to school?" when I actually don't have a degree. It's likely you'll start getting questions like I get if you leave it out.
I would add that you probably don't want to work for someone who would discriminate based on age anyway. I know I wouldn't. We're not older, we're experienced.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
40.5k22129166
I would put everything. They're already going to find out you're older when they interview you so be proud of it and list everything. I'm 47 and my resume goes back to 1986 with relevant experience.
College is certainly relevant and even though I've been writing software for over 25 years, I still get asked "where did you go to school?" when I actually don't have a degree. It's likely you'll start getting questions like I get if you leave it out.
I would add that you probably don't want to work for someone who would discriminate based on age anyway. I know I wouldn't. We're not older, we're experienced.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
40.5k22129166
edited Oct 31 '14 at 17:26
answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
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answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
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answered Oct 31 '14 at 17:02
Chris E
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40.5k22129166
Good point about everything. I have my earlier (but relevant) jobs all the way back. I am the oldest person in our office and probably in the top 5% age wise in my company (and I am still in my 40's). I didn't get any sense of age discrimination when interviewing.
– Bill Leeper
Oct 31 '14 at 17:37
suggest improvements |Â
Good point about everything. I have my earlier (but relevant) jobs all the way back. I am the oldest person in our office and probably in the top 5% age wise in my company (and I am still in my 40's). I didn't get any sense of age discrimination when interviewing.
– Bill Leeper
Oct 31 '14 at 17:37
Good point about everything. I have my earlier (but relevant) jobs all the way back. I am the oldest person in our office and probably in the top 5% age wise in my company (and I am still in my 40's). I didn't get any sense of age discrimination when interviewing.
– Bill Leeper
Oct 31 '14 at 17:37
Good point about everything. I have my earlier (but relevant) jobs all the way back. I am the oldest person in our office and probably in the top 5% age wise in my company (and I am still in my 40's). I didn't get any sense of age discrimination when interviewing.
– Bill Leeper
Oct 31 '14 at 17:37
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
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There's rarely any upside to including graduation dates on your resume. A recruiter or hiring manger doing a quick scan might see fairly old dates and think "that's a while ago - could it be obsolete?". If the degree type and school are prestigious and appropriate for your industry, leave that on the resume, but the dates are rarely going to help.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 19:55
KatieK
754715
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
There's rarely any upside to including graduation dates on your resume. A recruiter or hiring manger doing a quick scan might see fairly old dates and think "that's a while ago - could it be obsolete?". If the degree type and school are prestigious and appropriate for your industry, leave that on the resume, but the dates are rarely going to help.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 19:55
KatieK
754715
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
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down vote
There's rarely any upside to including graduation dates on your resume. A recruiter or hiring manger doing a quick scan might see fairly old dates and think "that's a while ago - could it be obsolete?". If the degree type and school are prestigious and appropriate for your industry, leave that on the resume, but the dates are rarely going to help.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 19:55
KatieK
754715
There's rarely any upside to including graduation dates on your resume. A recruiter or hiring manger doing a quick scan might see fairly old dates and think "that's a while ago - could it be obsolete?". If the degree type and school are prestigious and appropriate for your industry, leave that on the resume, but the dates are rarely going to help.
answered Oct 31 '14 at 19:55
KatieK
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answered Oct 31 '14 at 19:55
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No idea. I don't remove my dates and I am probably ten years older than you - I like to tell people including interviewers that I've gone from young, stone cold handsome and stupid to just stupid :)
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 31 '14 at 17:07
1
Is there an actual age issue here or are you just asking whether old experience information is still useful? Please edit. If it's the age issue this question is indeed a duplicate.
– Jan Doggen
Oct 31 '14 at 18:40
I do not believe a question about age discrimination questions at an interview and a question about resume styling for years are entirely the same. I already the read the other question before asking this, and it didn't answer my question.
– Miro
Oct 31 '14 at 19:22