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Background
Recently I've joined a Chinese company.
I joined this company because of the beneft's offered by the company.
I came from a very agile working environment. In my previous environment, we would have a Sprint planning and then team members would pull their task from the backlog in Jira.
In this new Chinese company, it's a totally different thing. I would say, still the waterfall style. Manager will just Skype or come to you verbally and ask you to do this and that if any task available.
Problem
I was under a 6 months probation, my manager didn't assigned me any task, and was frequently absent. A week ago was the end of my probation period. My evaluation was apparently based upon the opinion of a collegue who neither worked with me or formally reviewed my work, and was not positive. HR has talked to me about extending my probation. I can't lose this job, my parents need me.
After my review, my team was merged into a new team with a new manager.
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Should I approach the new manager and discuss with him my concerns, such as how can I help the team? Where can I get my task from etc..? Whats the process..
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edited May 17 '15 at 4:32
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Probation period - are they stringing me on? [closed]
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Background
Recently I've joined a Chinese company.
I joined this company because of the beneft's offered by the company.
I came from a very agile working environment. In my previous environment, we would have a Sprint planning and then team members would pull their task from the backlog in Jira.
In this new Chinese company, it's a totally different thing. I would say, still the waterfall style. Manager will just Skype or come to you verbally and ask you to do this and that if any task available.
Problem
I was under a 6 months probation, my manager didn't assigned me any task, and was frequently absent. A week ago was the end of my probation period. My evaluation was apparently based upon the opinion of a collegue who neither worked with me or formally reviewed my work, and was not positive. HR has talked to me about extending my probation. I can't lose this job, my parents need me.
After my review, my team was merged into a new team with a new manager.
Question
Should I approach the new manager and discuss with him my concerns, such as how can I help the team? Where can I get my task from etc..? Whats the process..
management people-management
edited May 17 '15 at 4:32
jmoreno
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asked May 17 '15 at 3:40
Snooper
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marked as duplicate by scaaahu, Michael Grubey, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Community♦ May 20 '15 at 1:10
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thanks for the edit to make the questions clearer @jmoreno
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Do managers ever tell their team what the expectations are?
– user8365
May 17 '15 at 12:48
Hi @Jeff0, not at all.. the whole things makes me feel, the manager still a noob lol , no proper introduction etc..
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 23:59
@JeffO - Of course. They let you know about every deadline as it's missed, and every requirement as it's kicked back by the stakeholders.
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May 18 '15 at 22:15
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Background
Recently I've joined a Chinese company.
I joined this company because of the beneft's offered by the company.
I came from a very agile working environment. In my previous environment, we would have a Sprint planning and then team members would pull their task from the backlog in Jira.
In this new Chinese company, it's a totally different thing. I would say, still the waterfall style. Manager will just Skype or come to you verbally and ask you to do this and that if any task available.
Problem
I was under a 6 months probation, my manager didn't assigned me any task, and was frequently absent. A week ago was the end of my probation period. My evaluation was apparently based upon the opinion of a collegue who neither worked with me or formally reviewed my work, and was not positive. HR has talked to me about extending my probation. I can't lose this job, my parents need me.
After my review, my team was merged into a new team with a new manager.
Question
Should I approach the new manager and discuss with him my concerns, such as how can I help the team? Where can I get my task from etc..? Whats the process..
management people-management
edited May 17 '15 at 4:32
jmoreno
7,9271840
asked May 17 '15 at 3:40
Snooper
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This question already has an answer here:
Probation period - are they stringing me on? [closed]
1 answer
Background
Recently I've joined a Chinese company.
I joined this company because of the beneft's offered by the company.
I came from a very agile working environment. In my previous environment, we would have a Sprint planning and then team members would pull their task from the backlog in Jira.
In this new Chinese company, it's a totally different thing. I would say, still the waterfall style. Manager will just Skype or come to you verbally and ask you to do this and that if any task available.
Problem
I was under a 6 months probation, my manager didn't assigned me any task, and was frequently absent. A week ago was the end of my probation period. My evaluation was apparently based upon the opinion of a collegue who neither worked with me or formally reviewed my work, and was not positive. HR has talked to me about extending my probation. I can't lose this job, my parents need me.
After my review, my team was merged into a new team with a new manager.
Question
Should I approach the new manager and discuss with him my concerns, such as how can I help the team? Where can I get my task from etc..? Whats the process..
This question already has an answer here:
Probation period - are they stringing me on? [closed]
1 answer
management people-management
edited May 17 '15 at 4:32
jmoreno
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asked May 17 '15 at 3:40
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edited May 17 '15 at 4:32
jmoreno
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edited May 17 '15 at 4:32
jmoreno
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marked as duplicate by scaaahu, Michael Grubey, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Community♦ May 20 '15 at 1:10
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marked as duplicate by scaaahu, Michael Grubey, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Community♦ May 20 '15 at 1:10
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thanks for the edit to make the questions clearer @jmoreno
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Do managers ever tell their team what the expectations are?
– user8365
May 17 '15 at 12:48
Hi @Jeff0, not at all.. the whole things makes me feel, the manager still a noob lol , no proper introduction etc..
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 23:59
@JeffO - Of course. They let you know about every deadline as it's missed, and every requirement as it's kicked back by the stakeholders.
– Wesley Long
May 18 '15 at 22:15
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thanks for the edit to make the questions clearer @jmoreno
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Do managers ever tell their team what the expectations are?
– user8365
May 17 '15 at 12:48
Hi @Jeff0, not at all.. the whole things makes me feel, the manager still a noob lol , no proper introduction etc..
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 23:59
@JeffO - Of course. They let you know about every deadline as it's missed, and every requirement as it's kicked back by the stakeholders.
– Wesley Long
May 18 '15 at 22:15
thanks for the edit to make the questions clearer @jmoreno
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
thanks for the edit to make the questions clearer @jmoreno
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Do managers ever tell their team what the expectations are?
– user8365
May 17 '15 at 12:48
Do managers ever tell their team what the expectations are?
– user8365
May 17 '15 at 12:48
Hi @Jeff0, not at all.. the whole things makes me feel, the manager still a noob lol , no proper introduction etc..
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 23:59
Hi @Jeff0, not at all.. the whole things makes me feel, the manager still a noob lol , no proper introduction etc..
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 23:59
@JeffO - Of course. They let you know about every deadline as it's missed, and every requirement as it's kicked back by the stakeholders.
– Wesley Long
May 18 '15 at 22:15
@JeffO - Of course. They let you know about every deadline as it's missed, and every requirement as it's kicked back by the stakeholders.
– Wesley Long
May 18 '15 at 22:15
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There is no easy answer here because the problems may be part cultural, part company-specific and part your different experience.
That said, yes, I would talk to the new manager about two things. First, I would talk about how task assignment and transparency works. Assuming the new manager also sticks to the more waterfall or top-down way of assigning tasks, you probably cannot change this, at least not straight away. By all means, suggest improvements but, from experience, fighting against the system just hurts you.
Try to find a way to be productive. Your productivity is your responsibility, not your manager. If your manager is absent, try to help your peers or do some documentation. Focus on solving problems your manager cares about. Perception is important, so do not be afraid to talk about your achievements or how you have helped others.
Second, I would talk about how you are to be judged and measured. If what you say is correct and you were judged by a peer that did not work with you, it would probably be in both your and your manager's interests to have something more accurate. Agree on something more concrete beforehand (including who and what) so it does not come as a surprise later.
If all else fails, I do not know your personal situation but there are always other jobs out there. While it can be easy to think of leaving a company as failure, you may look back on this and be glad you left. It will be certainly an area you will want to ask interviewers about for future positions.
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
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Thanks for the reply akton, i'm actually very sad about this for several days and didn't know where to look for advice until i came across this website.
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Thanks for the suggestion Akton, i arranged a meetup with my manager a day after, although he didn't get back to me personally , but then he did address it in a group meeting
– Snooper
May 20 '15 at 1:11
@Snooper Hopefully your manager addresses this to your satisfaction.
– akton
May 20 '15 at 8:04
thanks he already did .. but then somehow in my mind keep thinking i can do better. I think he inspire me to be a manager lol .. i will try to apply for that position a month later
– Snooper
May 21 '15 at 8:43
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There is no easy answer here because the problems may be part cultural, part company-specific and part your different experience.
That said, yes, I would talk to the new manager about two things. First, I would talk about how task assignment and transparency works. Assuming the new manager also sticks to the more waterfall or top-down way of assigning tasks, you probably cannot change this, at least not straight away. By all means, suggest improvements but, from experience, fighting against the system just hurts you.
Try to find a way to be productive. Your productivity is your responsibility, not your manager. If your manager is absent, try to help your peers or do some documentation. Focus on solving problems your manager cares about. Perception is important, so do not be afraid to talk about your achievements or how you have helped others.
Second, I would talk about how you are to be judged and measured. If what you say is correct and you were judged by a peer that did not work with you, it would probably be in both your and your manager's interests to have something more accurate. Agree on something more concrete beforehand (including who and what) so it does not come as a surprise later.
If all else fails, I do not know your personal situation but there are always other jobs out there. While it can be easy to think of leaving a company as failure, you may look back on this and be glad you left. It will be certainly an area you will want to ask interviewers about for future positions.
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
5,4811732
Thanks for the reply akton, i'm actually very sad about this for several days and didn't know where to look for advice until i came across this website.
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Thanks for the suggestion Akton, i arranged a meetup with my manager a day after, although he didn't get back to me personally , but then he did address it in a group meeting
– Snooper
May 20 '15 at 1:11
@Snooper Hopefully your manager addresses this to your satisfaction.
– akton
May 20 '15 at 8:04
thanks he already did .. but then somehow in my mind keep thinking i can do better. I think he inspire me to be a manager lol .. i will try to apply for that position a month later
– Snooper
May 21 '15 at 8:43
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
There is no easy answer here because the problems may be part cultural, part company-specific and part your different experience.
That said, yes, I would talk to the new manager about two things. First, I would talk about how task assignment and transparency works. Assuming the new manager also sticks to the more waterfall or top-down way of assigning tasks, you probably cannot change this, at least not straight away. By all means, suggest improvements but, from experience, fighting against the system just hurts you.
Try to find a way to be productive. Your productivity is your responsibility, not your manager. If your manager is absent, try to help your peers or do some documentation. Focus on solving problems your manager cares about. Perception is important, so do not be afraid to talk about your achievements or how you have helped others.
Second, I would talk about how you are to be judged and measured. If what you say is correct and you were judged by a peer that did not work with you, it would probably be in both your and your manager's interests to have something more accurate. Agree on something more concrete beforehand (including who and what) so it does not come as a surprise later.
If all else fails, I do not know your personal situation but there are always other jobs out there. While it can be easy to think of leaving a company as failure, you may look back on this and be glad you left. It will be certainly an area you will want to ask interviewers about for future positions.
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
5,4811732
Thanks for the reply akton, i'm actually very sad about this for several days and didn't know where to look for advice until i came across this website.
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Thanks for the suggestion Akton, i arranged a meetup with my manager a day after, although he didn't get back to me personally , but then he did address it in a group meeting
– Snooper
May 20 '15 at 1:11
@Snooper Hopefully your manager addresses this to your satisfaction.
– akton
May 20 '15 at 8:04
thanks he already did .. but then somehow in my mind keep thinking i can do better. I think he inspire me to be a manager lol .. i will try to apply for that position a month later
– Snooper
May 21 '15 at 8:43
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
There is no easy answer here because the problems may be part cultural, part company-specific and part your different experience.
That said, yes, I would talk to the new manager about two things. First, I would talk about how task assignment and transparency works. Assuming the new manager also sticks to the more waterfall or top-down way of assigning tasks, you probably cannot change this, at least not straight away. By all means, suggest improvements but, from experience, fighting against the system just hurts you.
Try to find a way to be productive. Your productivity is your responsibility, not your manager. If your manager is absent, try to help your peers or do some documentation. Focus on solving problems your manager cares about. Perception is important, so do not be afraid to talk about your achievements or how you have helped others.
Second, I would talk about how you are to be judged and measured. If what you say is correct and you were judged by a peer that did not work with you, it would probably be in both your and your manager's interests to have something more accurate. Agree on something more concrete beforehand (including who and what) so it does not come as a surprise later.
If all else fails, I do not know your personal situation but there are always other jobs out there. While it can be easy to think of leaving a company as failure, you may look back on this and be glad you left. It will be certainly an area you will want to ask interviewers about for future positions.
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
5,4811732
There is no easy answer here because the problems may be part cultural, part company-specific and part your different experience.
That said, yes, I would talk to the new manager about two things. First, I would talk about how task assignment and transparency works. Assuming the new manager also sticks to the more waterfall or top-down way of assigning tasks, you probably cannot change this, at least not straight away. By all means, suggest improvements but, from experience, fighting against the system just hurts you.
Try to find a way to be productive. Your productivity is your responsibility, not your manager. If your manager is absent, try to help your peers or do some documentation. Focus on solving problems your manager cares about. Perception is important, so do not be afraid to talk about your achievements or how you have helped others.
Second, I would talk about how you are to be judged and measured. If what you say is correct and you were judged by a peer that did not work with you, it would probably be in both your and your manager's interests to have something more accurate. Agree on something more concrete beforehand (including who and what) so it does not come as a surprise later.
If all else fails, I do not know your personal situation but there are always other jobs out there. While it can be easy to think of leaving a company as failure, you may look back on this and be glad you left. It will be certainly an area you will want to ask interviewers about for future positions.
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
5,4811732
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
5,4811732
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
5,4811732
answered May 17 '15 at 5:10
akton
5,4811732
5,4811732
Thanks for the reply akton, i'm actually very sad about this for several days and didn't know where to look for advice until i came across this website.
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Thanks for the suggestion Akton, i arranged a meetup with my manager a day after, although he didn't get back to me personally , but then he did address it in a group meeting
– Snooper
May 20 '15 at 1:11
@Snooper Hopefully your manager addresses this to your satisfaction.
– akton
May 20 '15 at 8:04
thanks he already did .. but then somehow in my mind keep thinking i can do better. I think he inspire me to be a manager lol .. i will try to apply for that position a month later
– Snooper
May 21 '15 at 8:43
suggest improvements |Â
Thanks for the reply akton, i'm actually very sad about this for several days and didn't know where to look for advice until i came across this website.
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Thanks for the suggestion Akton, i arranged a meetup with my manager a day after, although he didn't get back to me personally , but then he did address it in a group meeting
– Snooper
May 20 '15 at 1:11
@Snooper Hopefully your manager addresses this to your satisfaction.
– akton
May 20 '15 at 8:04
thanks he already did .. but then somehow in my mind keep thinking i can do better. I think he inspire me to be a manager lol .. i will try to apply for that position a month later
– Snooper
May 21 '15 at 8:43
Thanks for the reply akton, i'm actually very sad about this for several days and didn't know where to look for advice until i came across this website.
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Thanks for the reply akton, i'm actually very sad about this for several days and didn't know where to look for advice until i came across this website.
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Thanks for the suggestion Akton, i arranged a meetup with my manager a day after, although he didn't get back to me personally , but then he did address it in a group meeting
– Snooper
May 20 '15 at 1:11
Thanks for the suggestion Akton, i arranged a meetup with my manager a day after, although he didn't get back to me personally , but then he did address it in a group meeting
– Snooper
May 20 '15 at 1:11
@Snooper Hopefully your manager addresses this to your satisfaction.
– akton
May 20 '15 at 8:04
@Snooper Hopefully your manager addresses this to your satisfaction.
– akton
May 20 '15 at 8:04
thanks he already did .. but then somehow in my mind keep thinking i can do better. I think he inspire me to be a manager lol .. i will try to apply for that position a month later
– Snooper
May 21 '15 at 8:43
thanks he already did .. but then somehow in my mind keep thinking i can do better. I think he inspire me to be a manager lol .. i will try to apply for that position a month later
– Snooper
May 21 '15 at 8:43
suggest improvements |Â
thanks for the edit to make the questions clearer @jmoreno
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 7:06
Do managers ever tell their team what the expectations are?
– user8365
May 17 '15 at 12:48
Hi @Jeff0, not at all.. the whole things makes me feel, the manager still a noob lol , no proper introduction etc..
– Snooper
May 17 '15 at 23:59
@JeffO - Of course. They let you know about every deadline as it's missed, and every requirement as it's kicked back by the stakeholders.
– Wesley Long
May 18 '15 at 22:15