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Is it true (when applying for a position that requires work experience) that only years of experience after graduation count?
If someone had a chance to join a company as a developer even before he graduated, he might already have several years of work experience. He might even have worked full-time as a regular employee before his study. Will he be considered as having 'x' years of work experience when applying for a job?
I have seen that in Australia they count the work experience only after graduation. Is the same true in Europe?
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Is it true (when applying for a position that requires work experience) that only years of experience after graduation count?
If someone had a chance to join a company as a developer even before he graduated, he might already have several years of work experience. He might even have worked full-time as a regular employee before his study. Will he be considered as having 'x' years of work experience when applying for a job?
I have seen that in Australia they count the work experience only after graduation. Is the same true in Europe?
interviewing work-experience europe
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Put it on you resume and let them decide. If the work date is prior to graduation then it is clear this was work experience prior to graduation.
– paparazzo
Apr 29 '15 at 12:48
I want to know, what is the standard in the industry?
– Jude Niroshan
Apr 29 '15 at 12:50
possible duplicate of How to explain that my experience makes up for my lack of qualifications?
– gnat
Apr 29 '15 at 13:06
What about folks who never graduated like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, wonder how companies count their experience?
– MCHam
Apr 29 '15 at 14:31
Two related threads here: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/9049/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3399/… My take on reading these threads is there is not really an "industry standard" of how to calculate the number precisely, but be prepared to back up the number you give as your "years of experience".
– Brandin
Apr 29 '15 at 16:18
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Is it true (when applying for a position that requires work experience) that only years of experience after graduation count?
If someone had a chance to join a company as a developer even before he graduated, he might already have several years of work experience. He might even have worked full-time as a regular employee before his study. Will he be considered as having 'x' years of work experience when applying for a job?
I have seen that in Australia they count the work experience only after graduation. Is the same true in Europe?
interviewing work-experience europe
edited Apr 29 '15 at 15:49
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
asked Apr 29 '15 at 12:19
Jude Niroshan
76531223
Is it true (when applying for a position that requires work experience) that only years of experience after graduation count?
If someone had a chance to join a company as a developer even before he graduated, he might already have several years of work experience. He might even have worked full-time as a regular employee before his study. Will he be considered as having 'x' years of work experience when applying for a job?
I have seen that in Australia they count the work experience only after graduation. Is the same true in Europe?
interviewing work-experience europe
edited Apr 29 '15 at 15:49
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
asked Apr 29 '15 at 12:19
Jude Niroshan
76531223
edited Apr 29 '15 at 15:49
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
edited Apr 29 '15 at 15:49
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
edited Apr 29 '15 at 15:49
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
43.7k17114191
asked Apr 29 '15 at 12:19
Jude Niroshan
76531223
asked Apr 29 '15 at 12:19
Jude Niroshan
76531223
asked Apr 29 '15 at 12:19
Jude Niroshan
76531223
76531223
4
Put it on you resume and let them decide. If the work date is prior to graduation then it is clear this was work experience prior to graduation.
– paparazzo
Apr 29 '15 at 12:48
I want to know, what is the standard in the industry?
– Jude Niroshan
Apr 29 '15 at 12:50
possible duplicate of How to explain that my experience makes up for my lack of qualifications?
– gnat
Apr 29 '15 at 13:06
What about folks who never graduated like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, wonder how companies count their experience?
– MCHam
Apr 29 '15 at 14:31
Two related threads here: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/9049/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3399/… My take on reading these threads is there is not really an "industry standard" of how to calculate the number precisely, but be prepared to back up the number you give as your "years of experience".
– Brandin
Apr 29 '15 at 16:18
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Put it on you resume and let them decide. If the work date is prior to graduation then it is clear this was work experience prior to graduation.
– paparazzo
Apr 29 '15 at 12:48
I want to know, what is the standard in the industry?
– Jude Niroshan
Apr 29 '15 at 12:50
possible duplicate of How to explain that my experience makes up for my lack of qualifications?
– gnat
Apr 29 '15 at 13:06
What about folks who never graduated like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, wonder how companies count their experience?
– MCHam
Apr 29 '15 at 14:31
Two related threads here: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/9049/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3399/… My take on reading these threads is there is not really an "industry standard" of how to calculate the number precisely, but be prepared to back up the number you give as your "years of experience".
– Brandin
Apr 29 '15 at 16:18
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Put it on you resume and let them decide. If the work date is prior to graduation then it is clear this was work experience prior to graduation.
– paparazzo
Apr 29 '15 at 12:48
Put it on you resume and let them decide. If the work date is prior to graduation then it is clear this was work experience prior to graduation.
– paparazzo
Apr 29 '15 at 12:48
I want to know, what is the standard in the industry?
– Jude Niroshan
Apr 29 '15 at 12:50
I want to know, what is the standard in the industry?
– Jude Niroshan
Apr 29 '15 at 12:50
possible duplicate of How to explain that my experience makes up for my lack of qualifications?
– gnat
Apr 29 '15 at 13:06
possible duplicate of How to explain that my experience makes up for my lack of qualifications?
– gnat
Apr 29 '15 at 13:06
What about folks who never graduated like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, wonder how companies count their experience?
– MCHam
Apr 29 '15 at 14:31
What about folks who never graduated like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, wonder how companies count their experience?
– MCHam
Apr 29 '15 at 14:31
Two related threads here: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/9049/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3399/… My take on reading these threads is there is not really an "industry standard" of how to calculate the number precisely, but be prepared to back up the number you give as your "years of experience".
– Brandin
Apr 29 '15 at 16:18
Two related threads here: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/9049/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3399/… My take on reading these threads is there is not really an "industry standard" of how to calculate the number precisely, but be prepared to back up the number you give as your "years of experience".
– Brandin
Apr 29 '15 at 16:18
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The forum that you linked to for Australia is discussing the Department of Immigration and Citizenship. The rules for immigration and qualification for foreigners working or moving to a country will vary by country. Companies can have their own rules for what qualifies as work experience for the purposes of hiring or promotion.
We'll take me as an example. Today, on April 29, 2015, if you asked me how much experience I have as a software engineer, I'd say about 65 months (5.4 years). That includes my internships where I performed software engineering tasks as well as my co-op blocks and my work experience after graduation. If you asked me how many years of work experience I have, I'd answer 68 months (5.7 years), since I'd also include my time as a TA at university. However, just based on that forum you linked to, I would have to answer about 4 years of experience (3 years, 10 months of full-time employment post-graduation).
What matters is what they are asking for, and that depends based on who is asking. Are they asking for amount of time in a certain industry or even sub-field? Are they asking for how long you've held a job? Are they asking for time you've worked after graduation? Depending on who is asking and what they will use the information for will change what you need to provide.
answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
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In general no, most companies are quite happy to give you credit for related work. Even if it was a part-time job or internship, so long as the work was related, it usually counts towards years of experience. Unless the position explicitly states experience after graduating with your BS/MS/etc, count pre-graduation work.
As several commenters have pointed out, this policy would take Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg (and several other tech CEOs) out of the running. Also, consider folks who work as programmers, but do not have degrees in CS. Several older programmers don't have CS degrees as its a relatively new field. Especially if you started coding before the 90's there is a good change your degree (if you have one) is in something else.
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The forum that you linked to for Australia is discussing the Department of Immigration and Citizenship. The rules for immigration and qualification for foreigners working or moving to a country will vary by country. Companies can have their own rules for what qualifies as work experience for the purposes of hiring or promotion.
We'll take me as an example. Today, on April 29, 2015, if you asked me how much experience I have as a software engineer, I'd say about 65 months (5.4 years). That includes my internships where I performed software engineering tasks as well as my co-op blocks and my work experience after graduation. If you asked me how many years of work experience I have, I'd answer 68 months (5.7 years), since I'd also include my time as a TA at university. However, just based on that forum you linked to, I would have to answer about 4 years of experience (3 years, 10 months of full-time employment post-graduation).
What matters is what they are asking for, and that depends based on who is asking. Are they asking for amount of time in a certain industry or even sub-field? Are they asking for how long you've held a job? Are they asking for time you've worked after graduation? Depending on who is asking and what they will use the information for will change what you need to provide.
answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
Thomas Owens
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The forum that you linked to for Australia is discussing the Department of Immigration and Citizenship. The rules for immigration and qualification for foreigners working or moving to a country will vary by country. Companies can have their own rules for what qualifies as work experience for the purposes of hiring or promotion.
We'll take me as an example. Today, on April 29, 2015, if you asked me how much experience I have as a software engineer, I'd say about 65 months (5.4 years). That includes my internships where I performed software engineering tasks as well as my co-op blocks and my work experience after graduation. If you asked me how many years of work experience I have, I'd answer 68 months (5.7 years), since I'd also include my time as a TA at university. However, just based on that forum you linked to, I would have to answer about 4 years of experience (3 years, 10 months of full-time employment post-graduation).
What matters is what they are asking for, and that depends based on who is asking. Are they asking for amount of time in a certain industry or even sub-field? Are they asking for how long you've held a job? Are they asking for time you've worked after graduation? Depending on who is asking and what they will use the information for will change what you need to provide.
answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
Thomas Owens
13.4k45368
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The forum that you linked to for Australia is discussing the Department of Immigration and Citizenship. The rules for immigration and qualification for foreigners working or moving to a country will vary by country. Companies can have their own rules for what qualifies as work experience for the purposes of hiring or promotion.
We'll take me as an example. Today, on April 29, 2015, if you asked me how much experience I have as a software engineer, I'd say about 65 months (5.4 years). That includes my internships where I performed software engineering tasks as well as my co-op blocks and my work experience after graduation. If you asked me how many years of work experience I have, I'd answer 68 months (5.7 years), since I'd also include my time as a TA at university. However, just based on that forum you linked to, I would have to answer about 4 years of experience (3 years, 10 months of full-time employment post-graduation).
What matters is what they are asking for, and that depends based on who is asking. Are they asking for amount of time in a certain industry or even sub-field? Are they asking for how long you've held a job? Are they asking for time you've worked after graduation? Depending on who is asking and what they will use the information for will change what you need to provide.
answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
Thomas Owens
13.4k45368
The forum that you linked to for Australia is discussing the Department of Immigration and Citizenship. The rules for immigration and qualification for foreigners working or moving to a country will vary by country. Companies can have their own rules for what qualifies as work experience for the purposes of hiring or promotion.
We'll take me as an example. Today, on April 29, 2015, if you asked me how much experience I have as a software engineer, I'd say about 65 months (5.4 years). That includes my internships where I performed software engineering tasks as well as my co-op blocks and my work experience after graduation. If you asked me how many years of work experience I have, I'd answer 68 months (5.7 years), since I'd also include my time as a TA at university. However, just based on that forum you linked to, I would have to answer about 4 years of experience (3 years, 10 months of full-time employment post-graduation).
What matters is what they are asking for, and that depends based on who is asking. Are they asking for amount of time in a certain industry or even sub-field? Are they asking for how long you've held a job? Are they asking for time you've worked after graduation? Depending on who is asking and what they will use the information for will change what you need to provide.
answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
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answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
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answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
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answered Apr 29 '15 at 13:33
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In general no, most companies are quite happy to give you credit for related work. Even if it was a part-time job or internship, so long as the work was related, it usually counts towards years of experience. Unless the position explicitly states experience after graduating with your BS/MS/etc, count pre-graduation work.
As several commenters have pointed out, this policy would take Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg (and several other tech CEOs) out of the running. Also, consider folks who work as programmers, but do not have degrees in CS. Several older programmers don't have CS degrees as its a relatively new field. Especially if you started coding before the 90's there is a good change your degree (if you have one) is in something else.
answered Apr 30 '15 at 18:53
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In general no, most companies are quite happy to give you credit for related work. Even if it was a part-time job or internship, so long as the work was related, it usually counts towards years of experience. Unless the position explicitly states experience after graduating with your BS/MS/etc, count pre-graduation work.
As several commenters have pointed out, this policy would take Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg (and several other tech CEOs) out of the running. Also, consider folks who work as programmers, but do not have degrees in CS. Several older programmers don't have CS degrees as its a relatively new field. Especially if you started coding before the 90's there is a good change your degree (if you have one) is in something else.
answered Apr 30 '15 at 18:53
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In general no, most companies are quite happy to give you credit for related work. Even if it was a part-time job or internship, so long as the work was related, it usually counts towards years of experience. Unless the position explicitly states experience after graduating with your BS/MS/etc, count pre-graduation work.
As several commenters have pointed out, this policy would take Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg (and several other tech CEOs) out of the running. Also, consider folks who work as programmers, but do not have degrees in CS. Several older programmers don't have CS degrees as its a relatively new field. Especially if you started coding before the 90's there is a good change your degree (if you have one) is in something else.
answered Apr 30 '15 at 18:53
sevensevens
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In general no, most companies are quite happy to give you credit for related work. Even if it was a part-time job or internship, so long as the work was related, it usually counts towards years of experience. Unless the position explicitly states experience after graduating with your BS/MS/etc, count pre-graduation work.
As several commenters have pointed out, this policy would take Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg (and several other tech CEOs) out of the running. Also, consider folks who work as programmers, but do not have degrees in CS. Several older programmers don't have CS degrees as its a relatively new field. Especially if you started coding before the 90's there is a good change your degree (if you have one) is in something else.
answered Apr 30 '15 at 18:53
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answered Apr 30 '15 at 18:53
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answered Apr 30 '15 at 18:53
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Put it on you resume and let them decide. If the work date is prior to graduation then it is clear this was work experience prior to graduation.
– paparazzo
Apr 29 '15 at 12:48
I want to know, what is the standard in the industry?
– Jude Niroshan
Apr 29 '15 at 12:50
possible duplicate of How to explain that my experience makes up for my lack of qualifications?
– gnat
Apr 29 '15 at 13:06
What about folks who never graduated like Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg, wonder how companies count their experience?
– MCHam
Apr 29 '15 at 14:31
Two related threads here: workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/9049/… and workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/3399/… My take on reading these threads is there is not really an "industry standard" of how to calculate the number precisely, but be prepared to back up the number you give as your "years of experience".
– Brandin
Apr 29 '15 at 16:18