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I currently work for a consulting company in the tech space. A few months back, we took on a project that was far too big for our team to handle, with too low a budget, and too short a timeline.
Months later, the project is a mess. The client is unhappy and the entire team is burned out beyond belief; our lives have revolved around this project for far too long.
I've been offered a job at another company - one that seems like a better fit for me. I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client.
Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates. But the reality is still that this may have an impact on other members of the team (whom I like and respect) if the lawsuit were to lead to layoffs, etc.
How can I resign in such a way to minimize the risk or fallout of my employer being sued? Or should I just stick it out until this project comes to an end?
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I currently work for a consulting company in the tech space. A few months back, we took on a project that was far too big for our team to handle, with too low a budget, and too short a timeline.
Months later, the project is a mess. The client is unhappy and the entire team is burned out beyond belief; our lives have revolved around this project for far too long.
I've been offered a job at another company - one that seems like a better fit for me. I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client.
Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates. But the reality is still that this may have an impact on other members of the team (whom I like and respect) if the lawsuit were to lead to layoffs, etc.
How can I resign in such a way to minimize the risk or fallout of my employer being sued? Or should I just stick it out until this project comes to an end?
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Hi Jason, I have edited your question slightly to make it more on topic here. Legal questions are off topic but I think your core question here is great. If I changed the intent too much let me know or feel free to edit your question - great question!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 12 '14 at 20:30
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Lawsuit aside, what leads you to conclude that those colleagues who you like and respect are not just as capable of finding better jobs as you, and just as eager and willing to do so? From your description it hardly sounds like they're loving their current job(s).
– aroth
Aug 13 '14 at 4:34
Generally speaking, you shouldn't worry about what happens AFTER you leave. Even so, one person leaving shouldn't make that much of a difference unless you're the project lead or someone else who is directly responsible for the project's outcome. If you are simply one of many team members, I see no reason why it would matter. Above all else, though, remember that you have to look out for yourself.
– Omegacron
May 6 '15 at 18:51
" I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client." Projects should not be run in a way that a single employee leaving could lead to a lawsuit. The errors have obviously been made far earlier. This is not your fault.
– Stephan Kolassa
Sep 9 '15 at 13:24
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I currently work for a consulting company in the tech space. A few months back, we took on a project that was far too big for our team to handle, with too low a budget, and too short a timeline.
Months later, the project is a mess. The client is unhappy and the entire team is burned out beyond belief; our lives have revolved around this project for far too long.
I've been offered a job at another company - one that seems like a better fit for me. I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client.
Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates. But the reality is still that this may have an impact on other members of the team (whom I like and respect) if the lawsuit were to lead to layoffs, etc.
How can I resign in such a way to minimize the risk or fallout of my employer being sued? Or should I just stick it out until this project comes to an end?
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I currently work for a consulting company in the tech space. A few months back, we took on a project that was far too big for our team to handle, with too low a budget, and too short a timeline.
Months later, the project is a mess. The client is unhappy and the entire team is burned out beyond belief; our lives have revolved around this project for far too long.
I've been offered a job at another company - one that seems like a better fit for me. I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client.
Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates. But the reality is still that this may have an impact on other members of the team (whom I like and respect) if the lawsuit were to lead to layoffs, etc.
How can I resign in such a way to minimize the risk or fallout of my employer being sued? Or should I just stick it out until this project comes to an end?
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Hi Jason, I have edited your question slightly to make it more on topic here. Legal questions are off topic but I think your core question here is great. If I changed the intent too much let me know or feel free to edit your question - great question!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 12 '14 at 20:30
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Lawsuit aside, what leads you to conclude that those colleagues who you like and respect are not just as capable of finding better jobs as you, and just as eager and willing to do so? From your description it hardly sounds like they're loving their current job(s).
– aroth
Aug 13 '14 at 4:34
Generally speaking, you shouldn't worry about what happens AFTER you leave. Even so, one person leaving shouldn't make that much of a difference unless you're the project lead or someone else who is directly responsible for the project's outcome. If you are simply one of many team members, I see no reason why it would matter. Above all else, though, remember that you have to look out for yourself.
– Omegacron
May 6 '15 at 18:51
" I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client." Projects should not be run in a way that a single employee leaving could lead to a lawsuit. The errors have obviously been made far earlier. This is not your fault.
– Stephan Kolassa
Sep 9 '15 at 13:24
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Hi Jason, I have edited your question slightly to make it more on topic here. Legal questions are off topic but I think your core question here is great. If I changed the intent too much let me know or feel free to edit your question - great question!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 12 '14 at 20:30
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Lawsuit aside, what leads you to conclude that those colleagues who you like and respect are not just as capable of finding better jobs as you, and just as eager and willing to do so? From your description it hardly sounds like they're loving their current job(s).
– aroth
Aug 13 '14 at 4:34
Generally speaking, you shouldn't worry about what happens AFTER you leave. Even so, one person leaving shouldn't make that much of a difference unless you're the project lead or someone else who is directly responsible for the project's outcome. If you are simply one of many team members, I see no reason why it would matter. Above all else, though, remember that you have to look out for yourself.
– Omegacron
May 6 '15 at 18:51
" I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client." Projects should not be run in a way that a single employee leaving could lead to a lawsuit. The errors have obviously been made far earlier. This is not your fault.
– Stephan Kolassa
Sep 9 '15 at 13:24
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Hi Jason, I have edited your question slightly to make it more on topic here. Legal questions are off topic but I think your core question here is great. If I changed the intent too much let me know or feel free to edit your question - great question!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 12 '14 at 20:30
Hi Jason, I have edited your question slightly to make it more on topic here. Legal questions are off topic but I think your core question here is great. If I changed the intent too much let me know or feel free to edit your question - great question!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 12 '14 at 20:30
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Lawsuit aside, what leads you to conclude that those colleagues who you like and respect are not just as capable of finding better jobs as you, and just as eager and willing to do so? From your description it hardly sounds like they're loving their current job(s).
– aroth
Aug 13 '14 at 4:34
Lawsuit aside, what leads you to conclude that those colleagues who you like and respect are not just as capable of finding better jobs as you, and just as eager and willing to do so? From your description it hardly sounds like they're loving their current job(s).
– aroth
Aug 13 '14 at 4:34
Generally speaking, you shouldn't worry about what happens AFTER you leave. Even so, one person leaving shouldn't make that much of a difference unless you're the project lead or someone else who is directly responsible for the project's outcome. If you are simply one of many team members, I see no reason why it would matter. Above all else, though, remember that you have to look out for yourself.
– Omegacron
May 6 '15 at 18:51
Generally speaking, you shouldn't worry about what happens AFTER you leave. Even so, one person leaving shouldn't make that much of a difference unless you're the project lead or someone else who is directly responsible for the project's outcome. If you are simply one of many team members, I see no reason why it would matter. Above all else, though, remember that you have to look out for yourself.
– Omegacron
May 6 '15 at 18:51
" I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client." Projects should not be run in a way that a single employee leaving could lead to a lawsuit. The errors have obviously been made far earlier. This is not your fault.
– Stephan Kolassa
Sep 9 '15 at 13:24
" I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client." Projects should not be run in a way that a single employee leaving could lead to a lawsuit. The errors have obviously been made far earlier. This is not your fault.
– Stephan Kolassa
Sep 9 '15 at 13:24
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Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates.
You are probably correct, and that is why you can't do much about it yourself. Whether you stay or go, it appears the company has mishandled this project. Your departure won't change that fact. If the company gets sued I don't think it will be because you left. If the company is large enough to withstand this lawsuit and survive, it won't matter if you leave. If the company can not withstand this lawsuit, one person more or less is probably not going to make a difference.
I think it is commendable that you are concerned about the impact on your co-workers, but this is really management's problem, and the best you can do is save yourself from the future pain.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:03
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Good answer, I would just add that if Jason had caused the project to fail the company wouldn't hesitate a second to fire Jason. Jason, once your best interests diverge from that of your employer it's probably time to start looking for a new gig. Nothing personal, that's business.
– Jim In Texas
Aug 12 '14 at 22:04
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"If the ship's not sinking then the rats must be the ones not leaving." It's not your personal fault or responsibility, that lies with management. In the long run, nobody will thank you for your sacrifices so you should leave. Head for the life rafts while they're still above water.
– Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
Aug 13 '14 at 6:28
Hey, even if your leave causes a project that goes well to sink, it is not your fault. If you were THAT indispensable, it would have been the managers fault from depending of only one person (they should have known that anyone may leave, be hit by a car, etc.). There could be an issue if you were doing something "nasty" (not given proper advance warning, hiring half your team for your new company, wiping all the hard drives... :-D). Keep professional, and that's it.
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Aug 13 '14 at 18:37
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it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates
Correct. This business relationship is owned by your company, not by you. If what you say about your project is even partly true, your company dug this pit for themselves. There's nothing you can do, that you haven't already tried very hard indeed to do, to fix the situation.
Unless you're the account manager, you don't have to worry about sorting out the consequences of your departure with this client. Indeed, you should not insert yourself into this business relationship.
It is good and loyal for you to worry about your coworkers' increased workload if you resign. Keep in mind that your resignation may be the reality-check that's necessary for everybody to rethink this project. This may be the most kindest act of all.
What can you do? Give plenty of notice, and offer to work hard to give a smooth transition. You can go to your boss and say, "I have decided to take another job. My last day here will be (two weeks in the future) unless you want me to stay for another two weeks. I am committed to providing as smooth a transition as I possibly can. Thanks for the opportunity to work with you!"
The other thing you can do to ease the transition is a little bit paradoxical. You can refuse to negotiate if they try to keep you. If they offer you higher pay, or some other inducement, you can say "Respectfully, I have decided to leave. Let's not talk about ways to make me stay." Why does this ease the transition? Because it means the company doesn't have to panic and throw money at everybody.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
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sounds as though he's already working way too hard, so ramping it up at the end is unlikely to be an option. Plus there's the usual solutions in situations where people have been working long hours for long periods: you'll be more productive and make better decisions if you work less.
– Móż
Aug 13 '14 at 1:13
I would only add that, in this situation, you resign, give a three-week notice, and NOT offer to extend your stay beyond that for any reason. (Deck chairs on the Titanic, and all that. Plus, you have another offer that you feel is a better fit.) It is management's responsibility to make sure that their team is prepared to deliver any promises they make - if they can't work with one person leaving the team, they (not you) are either poor planners who don't build in time/space for changes/delays, or they are outright overpromising and underdelivering.
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Look at it in an optimistic way. Management of the company will be terribly worried that they will go under and all the hard working employees will lose their jobs. By finding a job elsewhere and leaving, you take a bit of that load off their shoulders and they will feel a lot better. So you are doing the right thing by leaving.
And if this is not how your company works, you are still doing the right thing by leaving - for yourself, and for your family. That's the people who count. When you start your new job, you can always see if there are more open positions and recommend former colleagues.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
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This is a very clever analysis.
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if you take the offer, your team has one less co-worker to worry about, - and that's you. And your family has one less parent to worry about, and that's you. That sounds like a good deal for both your team and your family.
What happens to the employer after you leave is none of your concern and in fact, it is none of your business. Your employer can still save themselves by being a little bit smarter, getting reinforcements rather than work your compadres to death - they are worked to the max right now and they cannot possibly give more to the company than what they are already giving. And of course, they can stop expecting that the work can be done on time on a starvation diet of resources. All of these changes are out of your hands, and these changes are the management's decision to make or not to make. Your employer's salvation is in their hands not yours, and they can decide to save themselves irrespective of whether you stay or you leave.
Don't feel guilty that you are letting your team down by leaving. Your staying won't make a difference to the eventual outcome if management persists in making the wrong decisions, which have far more impact on the survivability of the firm than any decision of yours to stay or leave.
The only decision that's in your hands at this firm is the decision to save yourself - nothing else is in your hands. Take the one decision that's in your hands, and make it the right one for yourself, your family and your coworkers. No coworker who genuinely cares about your welfare would want to see you promenading on a ship that's about to smash into a cliff.
answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
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Its a sad thing when management decisions doom a project even before it gets off of the ground. The reality is that its your management's job to create an atmosphere where you can thrive and be happy (or at least not want to run screaming to the next job). Its your management's job to ensure thier customers are happy. You can help with both of those, but if they won't let you, then what can you do?
In your case, your management made some unwise decisions which have cost you and your co-workers a lot of quality-of-life as well as possibly costing them a customer.
Don't feel bad about taking the new position. Your company is responsible for its issues, not you. Take the new job, and maybe you'll be able to give some of your co-workers a new job as well!
answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
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Whether your employer is sued is not your responsibility.
If you signed an employment agreement check for any non-compete limitations on positions you can take.
If you have a tangible job offer and you are very sure that you will not be faced with your employer suing to prevent you from working in the business field, give as much notice as you can and make yourself available to help with the transition.
Be prepared for the possibility that when you give notice your current employer may have security pack your personal belongings and escort you out. That happens under stress.
Do not under any circumstances disparage your current employer or have contact with the dissatisfied client. That way lies dragons so to speak.
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Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates.
You are probably correct, and that is why you can't do much about it yourself. Whether you stay or go, it appears the company has mishandled this project. Your departure won't change that fact. If the company gets sued I don't think it will be because you left. If the company is large enough to withstand this lawsuit and survive, it won't matter if you leave. If the company can not withstand this lawsuit, one person more or less is probably not going to make a difference.
I think it is commendable that you are concerned about the impact on your co-workers, but this is really management's problem, and the best you can do is save yourself from the future pain.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:03
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Good answer, I would just add that if Jason had caused the project to fail the company wouldn't hesitate a second to fire Jason. Jason, once your best interests diverge from that of your employer it's probably time to start looking for a new gig. Nothing personal, that's business.
– Jim In Texas
Aug 12 '14 at 22:04
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"If the ship's not sinking then the rats must be the ones not leaving." It's not your personal fault or responsibility, that lies with management. In the long run, nobody will thank you for your sacrifices so you should leave. Head for the life rafts while they're still above water.
– Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
Aug 13 '14 at 6:28
Hey, even if your leave causes a project that goes well to sink, it is not your fault. If you were THAT indispensable, it would have been the managers fault from depending of only one person (they should have known that anyone may leave, be hit by a car, etc.). There could be an issue if you were doing something "nasty" (not given proper advance warning, hiring half your team for your new company, wiping all the hard drives... :-D). Keep professional, and that's it.
– SJuan76
Aug 13 '14 at 18:37
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Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates.
You are probably correct, and that is why you can't do much about it yourself. Whether you stay or go, it appears the company has mishandled this project. Your departure won't change that fact. If the company gets sued I don't think it will be because you left. If the company is large enough to withstand this lawsuit and survive, it won't matter if you leave. If the company can not withstand this lawsuit, one person more or less is probably not going to make a difference.
I think it is commendable that you are concerned about the impact on your co-workers, but this is really management's problem, and the best you can do is save yourself from the future pain.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:03
cdkMoose
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Good answer, I would just add that if Jason had caused the project to fail the company wouldn't hesitate a second to fire Jason. Jason, once your best interests diverge from that of your employer it's probably time to start looking for a new gig. Nothing personal, that's business.
– Jim In Texas
Aug 12 '14 at 22:04
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"If the ship's not sinking then the rats must be the ones not leaving." It's not your personal fault or responsibility, that lies with management. In the long run, nobody will thank you for your sacrifices so you should leave. Head for the life rafts while they're still above water.
– Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
Aug 13 '14 at 6:28
Hey, even if your leave causes a project that goes well to sink, it is not your fault. If you were THAT indispensable, it would have been the managers fault from depending of only one person (they should have known that anyone may leave, be hit by a car, etc.). There could be an issue if you were doing something "nasty" (not given proper advance warning, hiring half your team for your new company, wiping all the hard drives... :-D). Keep professional, and that's it.
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Aug 13 '14 at 18:37
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Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates.
You are probably correct, and that is why you can't do much about it yourself. Whether you stay or go, it appears the company has mishandled this project. Your departure won't change that fact. If the company gets sued I don't think it will be because you left. If the company is large enough to withstand this lawsuit and survive, it won't matter if you leave. If the company can not withstand this lawsuit, one person more or less is probably not going to make a difference.
I think it is commendable that you are concerned about the impact on your co-workers, but this is really management's problem, and the best you can do is save yourself from the future pain.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:03
cdkMoose
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Part of me feels as though it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates.
You are probably correct, and that is why you can't do much about it yourself. Whether you stay or go, it appears the company has mishandled this project. Your departure won't change that fact. If the company gets sued I don't think it will be because you left. If the company is large enough to withstand this lawsuit and survive, it won't matter if you leave. If the company can not withstand this lawsuit, one person more or less is probably not going to make a difference.
I think it is commendable that you are concerned about the impact on your co-workers, but this is really management's problem, and the best you can do is save yourself from the future pain.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:03
cdkMoose
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Good answer, I would just add that if Jason had caused the project to fail the company wouldn't hesitate a second to fire Jason. Jason, once your best interests diverge from that of your employer it's probably time to start looking for a new gig. Nothing personal, that's business.
– Jim In Texas
Aug 12 '14 at 22:04
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"If the ship's not sinking then the rats must be the ones not leaving." It's not your personal fault or responsibility, that lies with management. In the long run, nobody will thank you for your sacrifices so you should leave. Head for the life rafts while they're still above water.
– Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
Aug 13 '14 at 6:28
Hey, even if your leave causes a project that goes well to sink, it is not your fault. If you were THAT indispensable, it would have been the managers fault from depending of only one person (they should have known that anyone may leave, be hit by a car, etc.). There could be an issue if you were doing something "nasty" (not given proper advance warning, hiring half your team for your new company, wiping all the hard drives... :-D). Keep professional, and that's it.
– SJuan76
Aug 13 '14 at 18:37
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Good answer, I would just add that if Jason had caused the project to fail the company wouldn't hesitate a second to fire Jason. Jason, once your best interests diverge from that of your employer it's probably time to start looking for a new gig. Nothing personal, that's business.
– Jim In Texas
Aug 12 '14 at 22:04
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"If the ship's not sinking then the rats must be the ones not leaving." It's not your personal fault or responsibility, that lies with management. In the long run, nobody will thank you for your sacrifices so you should leave. Head for the life rafts while they're still above water.
– Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
Aug 13 '14 at 6:28
Hey, even if your leave causes a project that goes well to sink, it is not your fault. If you were THAT indispensable, it would have been the managers fault from depending of only one person (they should have known that anyone may leave, be hit by a car, etc.). There could be an issue if you were doing something "nasty" (not given proper advance warning, hiring half your team for your new company, wiping all the hard drives... :-D). Keep professional, and that's it.
– SJuan76
Aug 13 '14 at 18:37
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Good answer, I would just add that if Jason had caused the project to fail the company wouldn't hesitate a second to fire Jason. Jason, once your best interests diverge from that of your employer it's probably time to start looking for a new gig. Nothing personal, that's business.
– Jim In Texas
Aug 12 '14 at 22:04
Good answer, I would just add that if Jason had caused the project to fail the company wouldn't hesitate a second to fire Jason. Jason, once your best interests diverge from that of your employer it's probably time to start looking for a new gig. Nothing personal, that's business.
– Jim In Texas
Aug 12 '14 at 22:04
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"If the ship's not sinking then the rats must be the ones not leaving." It's not your personal fault or responsibility, that lies with management. In the long run, nobody will thank you for your sacrifices so you should leave. Head for the life rafts while they're still above water.
– Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
Aug 13 '14 at 6:28
"If the ship's not sinking then the rats must be the ones not leaving." It's not your personal fault or responsibility, that lies with management. In the long run, nobody will thank you for your sacrifices so you should leave. Head for the life rafts while they're still above water.
– Torben Gundtofte-Bruun
Aug 13 '14 at 6:28
Hey, even if your leave causes a project that goes well to sink, it is not your fault. If you were THAT indispensable, it would have been the managers fault from depending of only one person (they should have known that anyone may leave, be hit by a car, etc.). There could be an issue if you were doing something "nasty" (not given proper advance warning, hiring half your team for your new company, wiping all the hard drives... :-D). Keep professional, and that's it.
– SJuan76
Aug 13 '14 at 18:37
Hey, even if your leave causes a project that goes well to sink, it is not your fault. If you were THAT indispensable, it would have been the managers fault from depending of only one person (they should have known that anyone may leave, be hit by a car, etc.). There could be an issue if you were doing something "nasty" (not given proper advance warning, hiring half your team for your new company, wiping all the hard drives... :-D). Keep professional, and that's it.
– SJuan76
Aug 13 '14 at 18:37
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it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates
Correct. This business relationship is owned by your company, not by you. If what you say about your project is even partly true, your company dug this pit for themselves. There's nothing you can do, that you haven't already tried very hard indeed to do, to fix the situation.
Unless you're the account manager, you don't have to worry about sorting out the consequences of your departure with this client. Indeed, you should not insert yourself into this business relationship.
It is good and loyal for you to worry about your coworkers' increased workload if you resign. Keep in mind that your resignation may be the reality-check that's necessary for everybody to rethink this project. This may be the most kindest act of all.
What can you do? Give plenty of notice, and offer to work hard to give a smooth transition. You can go to your boss and say, "I have decided to take another job. My last day here will be (two weeks in the future) unless you want me to stay for another two weeks. I am committed to providing as smooth a transition as I possibly can. Thanks for the opportunity to work with you!"
The other thing you can do to ease the transition is a little bit paradoxical. You can refuse to negotiate if they try to keep you. If they offer you higher pay, or some other inducement, you can say "Respectfully, I have decided to leave. Let's not talk about ways to make me stay." Why does this ease the transition? Because it means the company doesn't have to panic and throw money at everybody.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
O. Jones
13.6k24070
sounds as though he's already working way too hard, so ramping it up at the end is unlikely to be an option. Plus there's the usual solutions in situations where people have been working long hours for long periods: you'll be more productive and make better decisions if you work less.
– Móż
Aug 13 '14 at 1:13
I would only add that, in this situation, you resign, give a three-week notice, and NOT offer to extend your stay beyond that for any reason. (Deck chairs on the Titanic, and all that. Plus, you have another offer that you feel is a better fit.) It is management's responsibility to make sure that their team is prepared to deliver any promises they make - if they can't work with one person leaving the team, they (not you) are either poor planners who don't build in time/space for changes/delays, or they are outright overpromising and underdelivering.
– user22432
Aug 13 '14 at 3:14
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up vote
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it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates
Correct. This business relationship is owned by your company, not by you. If what you say about your project is even partly true, your company dug this pit for themselves. There's nothing you can do, that you haven't already tried very hard indeed to do, to fix the situation.
Unless you're the account manager, you don't have to worry about sorting out the consequences of your departure with this client. Indeed, you should not insert yourself into this business relationship.
It is good and loyal for you to worry about your coworkers' increased workload if you resign. Keep in mind that your resignation may be the reality-check that's necessary for everybody to rethink this project. This may be the most kindest act of all.
What can you do? Give plenty of notice, and offer to work hard to give a smooth transition. You can go to your boss and say, "I have decided to take another job. My last day here will be (two weeks in the future) unless you want me to stay for another two weeks. I am committed to providing as smooth a transition as I possibly can. Thanks for the opportunity to work with you!"
The other thing you can do to ease the transition is a little bit paradoxical. You can refuse to negotiate if they try to keep you. If they offer you higher pay, or some other inducement, you can say "Respectfully, I have decided to leave. Let's not talk about ways to make me stay." Why does this ease the transition? Because it means the company doesn't have to panic and throw money at everybody.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
O. Jones
13.6k24070
sounds as though he's already working way too hard, so ramping it up at the end is unlikely to be an option. Plus there's the usual solutions in situations where people have been working long hours for long periods: you'll be more productive and make better decisions if you work less.
– Móż
Aug 13 '14 at 1:13
I would only add that, in this situation, you resign, give a three-week notice, and NOT offer to extend your stay beyond that for any reason. (Deck chairs on the Titanic, and all that. Plus, you have another offer that you feel is a better fit.) It is management's responsibility to make sure that their team is prepared to deliver any promises they make - if they can't work with one person leaving the team, they (not you) are either poor planners who don't build in time/space for changes/delays, or they are outright overpromising and underdelivering.
– user22432
Aug 13 '14 at 3:14
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up vote
32
down vote
up vote
32
down vote
it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates
Correct. This business relationship is owned by your company, not by you. If what you say about your project is even partly true, your company dug this pit for themselves. There's nothing you can do, that you haven't already tried very hard indeed to do, to fix the situation.
Unless you're the account manager, you don't have to worry about sorting out the consequences of your departure with this client. Indeed, you should not insert yourself into this business relationship.
It is good and loyal for you to worry about your coworkers' increased workload if you resign. Keep in mind that your resignation may be the reality-check that's necessary for everybody to rethink this project. This may be the most kindest act of all.
What can you do? Give plenty of notice, and offer to work hard to give a smooth transition. You can go to your boss and say, "I have decided to take another job. My last day here will be (two weeks in the future) unless you want me to stay for another two weeks. I am committed to providing as smooth a transition as I possibly can. Thanks for the opportunity to work with you!"
The other thing you can do to ease the transition is a little bit paradoxical. You can refuse to negotiate if they try to keep you. If they offer you higher pay, or some other inducement, you can say "Respectfully, I have decided to leave. Let's not talk about ways to make me stay." Why does this ease the transition? Because it means the company doesn't have to panic and throw money at everybody.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
O. Jones
13.6k24070
it's the management's fault for taking on such a project and overworking me and my teammates
Correct. This business relationship is owned by your company, not by you. If what you say about your project is even partly true, your company dug this pit for themselves. There's nothing you can do, that you haven't already tried very hard indeed to do, to fix the situation.
Unless you're the account manager, you don't have to worry about sorting out the consequences of your departure with this client. Indeed, you should not insert yourself into this business relationship.
It is good and loyal for you to worry about your coworkers' increased workload if you resign. Keep in mind that your resignation may be the reality-check that's necessary for everybody to rethink this project. This may be the most kindest act of all.
What can you do? Give plenty of notice, and offer to work hard to give a smooth transition. You can go to your boss and say, "I have decided to take another job. My last day here will be (two weeks in the future) unless you want me to stay for another two weeks. I am committed to providing as smooth a transition as I possibly can. Thanks for the opportunity to work with you!"
The other thing you can do to ease the transition is a little bit paradoxical. You can refuse to negotiate if they try to keep you. If they offer you higher pay, or some other inducement, you can say "Respectfully, I have decided to leave. Let's not talk about ways to make me stay." Why does this ease the transition? Because it means the company doesn't have to panic and throw money at everybody.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
O. Jones
13.6k24070
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
O. Jones
13.6k24070
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
O. Jones
13.6k24070
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
O. Jones
13.6k24070
13.6k24070
sounds as though he's already working way too hard, so ramping it up at the end is unlikely to be an option. Plus there's the usual solutions in situations where people have been working long hours for long periods: you'll be more productive and make better decisions if you work less.
– Móż
Aug 13 '14 at 1:13
I would only add that, in this situation, you resign, give a three-week notice, and NOT offer to extend your stay beyond that for any reason. (Deck chairs on the Titanic, and all that. Plus, you have another offer that you feel is a better fit.) It is management's responsibility to make sure that their team is prepared to deliver any promises they make - if they can't work with one person leaving the team, they (not you) are either poor planners who don't build in time/space for changes/delays, or they are outright overpromising and underdelivering.
– user22432
Aug 13 '14 at 3:14
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sounds as though he's already working way too hard, so ramping it up at the end is unlikely to be an option. Plus there's the usual solutions in situations where people have been working long hours for long periods: you'll be more productive and make better decisions if you work less.
– Móż
Aug 13 '14 at 1:13
I would only add that, in this situation, you resign, give a three-week notice, and NOT offer to extend your stay beyond that for any reason. (Deck chairs on the Titanic, and all that. Plus, you have another offer that you feel is a better fit.) It is management's responsibility to make sure that their team is prepared to deliver any promises they make - if they can't work with one person leaving the team, they (not you) are either poor planners who don't build in time/space for changes/delays, or they are outright overpromising and underdelivering.
– user22432
Aug 13 '14 at 3:14
sounds as though he's already working way too hard, so ramping it up at the end is unlikely to be an option. Plus there's the usual solutions in situations where people have been working long hours for long periods: you'll be more productive and make better decisions if you work less.
– Móż
Aug 13 '14 at 1:13
sounds as though he's already working way too hard, so ramping it up at the end is unlikely to be an option. Plus there's the usual solutions in situations where people have been working long hours for long periods: you'll be more productive and make better decisions if you work less.
– Móż
Aug 13 '14 at 1:13
I would only add that, in this situation, you resign, give a three-week notice, and NOT offer to extend your stay beyond that for any reason. (Deck chairs on the Titanic, and all that. Plus, you have another offer that you feel is a better fit.) It is management's responsibility to make sure that their team is prepared to deliver any promises they make - if they can't work with one person leaving the team, they (not you) are either poor planners who don't build in time/space for changes/delays, or they are outright overpromising and underdelivering.
– user22432
Aug 13 '14 at 3:14
I would only add that, in this situation, you resign, give a three-week notice, and NOT offer to extend your stay beyond that for any reason. (Deck chairs on the Titanic, and all that. Plus, you have another offer that you feel is a better fit.) It is management's responsibility to make sure that their team is prepared to deliver any promises they make - if they can't work with one person leaving the team, they (not you) are either poor planners who don't build in time/space for changes/delays, or they are outright overpromising and underdelivering.
– user22432
Aug 13 '14 at 3:14
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Look at it in an optimistic way. Management of the company will be terribly worried that they will go under and all the hard working employees will lose their jobs. By finding a job elsewhere and leaving, you take a bit of that load off their shoulders and they will feel a lot better. So you are doing the right thing by leaving.
And if this is not how your company works, you are still doing the right thing by leaving - for yourself, and for your family. That's the people who count. When you start your new job, you can always see if there are more open positions and recommend former colleagues.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
gnasher729
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This is a very clever analysis.
– emory
Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
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Look at it in an optimistic way. Management of the company will be terribly worried that they will go under and all the hard working employees will lose their jobs. By finding a job elsewhere and leaving, you take a bit of that load off their shoulders and they will feel a lot better. So you are doing the right thing by leaving.
And if this is not how your company works, you are still doing the right thing by leaving - for yourself, and for your family. That's the people who count. When you start your new job, you can always see if there are more open positions and recommend former colleagues.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
gnasher729
71.4k31131224
This is a very clever analysis.
– emory
Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
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up vote
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Look at it in an optimistic way. Management of the company will be terribly worried that they will go under and all the hard working employees will lose their jobs. By finding a job elsewhere and leaving, you take a bit of that load off their shoulders and they will feel a lot better. So you are doing the right thing by leaving.
And if this is not how your company works, you are still doing the right thing by leaving - for yourself, and for your family. That's the people who count. When you start your new job, you can always see if there are more open positions and recommend former colleagues.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
gnasher729
71.4k31131224
Look at it in an optimistic way. Management of the company will be terribly worried that they will go under and all the hard working employees will lose their jobs. By finding a job elsewhere and leaving, you take a bit of that load off their shoulders and they will feel a lot better. So you are doing the right thing by leaving.
And if this is not how your company works, you are still doing the right thing by leaving - for yourself, and for your family. That's the people who count. When you start your new job, you can always see if there are more open positions and recommend former colleagues.
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
gnasher729
71.4k31131224
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
gnasher729
71.4k31131224
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
gnasher729
71.4k31131224
answered Aug 12 '14 at 21:21
gnasher729
71.4k31131224
71.4k31131224
This is a very clever analysis.
– emory
Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
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This is a very clever analysis.
– emory
Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
This is a very clever analysis.
– emory
Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
This is a very clever analysis.
– emory
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if you take the offer, your team has one less co-worker to worry about, - and that's you. And your family has one less parent to worry about, and that's you. That sounds like a good deal for both your team and your family.
What happens to the employer after you leave is none of your concern and in fact, it is none of your business. Your employer can still save themselves by being a little bit smarter, getting reinforcements rather than work your compadres to death - they are worked to the max right now and they cannot possibly give more to the company than what they are already giving. And of course, they can stop expecting that the work can be done on time on a starvation diet of resources. All of these changes are out of your hands, and these changes are the management's decision to make or not to make. Your employer's salvation is in their hands not yours, and they can decide to save themselves irrespective of whether you stay or you leave.
Don't feel guilty that you are letting your team down by leaving. Your staying won't make a difference to the eventual outcome if management persists in making the wrong decisions, which have far more impact on the survivability of the firm than any decision of yours to stay or leave.
The only decision that's in your hands at this firm is the decision to save yourself - nothing else is in your hands. Take the one decision that's in your hands, and make it the right one for yourself, your family and your coworkers. No coworker who genuinely cares about your welfare would want to see you promenading on a ship that's about to smash into a cliff.
answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
Vietnhi Phuvan
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if you take the offer, your team has one less co-worker to worry about, - and that's you. And your family has one less parent to worry about, and that's you. That sounds like a good deal for both your team and your family.
What happens to the employer after you leave is none of your concern and in fact, it is none of your business. Your employer can still save themselves by being a little bit smarter, getting reinforcements rather than work your compadres to death - they are worked to the max right now and they cannot possibly give more to the company than what they are already giving. And of course, they can stop expecting that the work can be done on time on a starvation diet of resources. All of these changes are out of your hands, and these changes are the management's decision to make or not to make. Your employer's salvation is in their hands not yours, and they can decide to save themselves irrespective of whether you stay or you leave.
Don't feel guilty that you are letting your team down by leaving. Your staying won't make a difference to the eventual outcome if management persists in making the wrong decisions, which have far more impact on the survivability of the firm than any decision of yours to stay or leave.
The only decision that's in your hands at this firm is the decision to save yourself - nothing else is in your hands. Take the one decision that's in your hands, and make it the right one for yourself, your family and your coworkers. No coworker who genuinely cares about your welfare would want to see you promenading on a ship that's about to smash into a cliff.
answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
Vietnhi Phuvan
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suggest improvements |Â
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up vote
5
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if you take the offer, your team has one less co-worker to worry about, - and that's you. And your family has one less parent to worry about, and that's you. That sounds like a good deal for both your team and your family.
What happens to the employer after you leave is none of your concern and in fact, it is none of your business. Your employer can still save themselves by being a little bit smarter, getting reinforcements rather than work your compadres to death - they are worked to the max right now and they cannot possibly give more to the company than what they are already giving. And of course, they can stop expecting that the work can be done on time on a starvation diet of resources. All of these changes are out of your hands, and these changes are the management's decision to make or not to make. Your employer's salvation is in their hands not yours, and they can decide to save themselves irrespective of whether you stay or you leave.
Don't feel guilty that you are letting your team down by leaving. Your staying won't make a difference to the eventual outcome if management persists in making the wrong decisions, which have far more impact on the survivability of the firm than any decision of yours to stay or leave.
The only decision that's in your hands at this firm is the decision to save yourself - nothing else is in your hands. Take the one decision that's in your hands, and make it the right one for yourself, your family and your coworkers. No coworker who genuinely cares about your welfare would want to see you promenading on a ship that's about to smash into a cliff.
answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
if you take the offer, your team has one less co-worker to worry about, - and that's you. And your family has one less parent to worry about, and that's you. That sounds like a good deal for both your team and your family.
What happens to the employer after you leave is none of your concern and in fact, it is none of your business. Your employer can still save themselves by being a little bit smarter, getting reinforcements rather than work your compadres to death - they are worked to the max right now and they cannot possibly give more to the company than what they are already giving. And of course, they can stop expecting that the work can be done on time on a starvation diet of resources. All of these changes are out of your hands, and these changes are the management's decision to make or not to make. Your employer's salvation is in their hands not yours, and they can decide to save themselves irrespective of whether you stay or you leave.
Don't feel guilty that you are letting your team down by leaving. Your staying won't make a difference to the eventual outcome if management persists in making the wrong decisions, which have far more impact on the survivability of the firm than any decision of yours to stay or leave.
The only decision that's in your hands at this firm is the decision to save yourself - nothing else is in your hands. Take the one decision that's in your hands, and make it the right one for yourself, your family and your coworkers. No coworker who genuinely cares about your welfare would want to see you promenading on a ship that's about to smash into a cliff.
answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
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edited Aug 13 '14 at 10:22
answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
Vietnhi Phuvan
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answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
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answered Aug 13 '14 at 1:00
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Its a sad thing when management decisions doom a project even before it gets off of the ground. The reality is that its your management's job to create an atmosphere where you can thrive and be happy (or at least not want to run screaming to the next job). Its your management's job to ensure thier customers are happy. You can help with both of those, but if they won't let you, then what can you do?
In your case, your management made some unwise decisions which have cost you and your co-workers a lot of quality-of-life as well as possibly costing them a customer.
Don't feel bad about taking the new position. Your company is responsible for its issues, not you. Take the new job, and maybe you'll be able to give some of your co-workers a new job as well!
answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
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Its a sad thing when management decisions doom a project even before it gets off of the ground. The reality is that its your management's job to create an atmosphere where you can thrive and be happy (or at least not want to run screaming to the next job). Its your management's job to ensure thier customers are happy. You can help with both of those, but if they won't let you, then what can you do?
In your case, your management made some unwise decisions which have cost you and your co-workers a lot of quality-of-life as well as possibly costing them a customer.
Don't feel bad about taking the new position. Your company is responsible for its issues, not you. Take the new job, and maybe you'll be able to give some of your co-workers a new job as well!
answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
Mike Van
2,82021025
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
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up vote
4
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Its a sad thing when management decisions doom a project even before it gets off of the ground. The reality is that its your management's job to create an atmosphere where you can thrive and be happy (or at least not want to run screaming to the next job). Its your management's job to ensure thier customers are happy. You can help with both of those, but if they won't let you, then what can you do?
In your case, your management made some unwise decisions which have cost you and your co-workers a lot of quality-of-life as well as possibly costing them a customer.
Don't feel bad about taking the new position. Your company is responsible for its issues, not you. Take the new job, and maybe you'll be able to give some of your co-workers a new job as well!
answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
Mike Van
2,82021025
Its a sad thing when management decisions doom a project even before it gets off of the ground. The reality is that its your management's job to create an atmosphere where you can thrive and be happy (or at least not want to run screaming to the next job). Its your management's job to ensure thier customers are happy. You can help with both of those, but if they won't let you, then what can you do?
In your case, your management made some unwise decisions which have cost you and your co-workers a lot of quality-of-life as well as possibly costing them a customer.
Don't feel bad about taking the new position. Your company is responsible for its issues, not you. Take the new job, and maybe you'll be able to give some of your co-workers a new job as well!
answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
Mike Van
2,82021025
answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
Mike Van
2,82021025
answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
Mike Van
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answered Aug 12 '14 at 20:50
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Whether your employer is sued is not your responsibility.
If you signed an employment agreement check for any non-compete limitations on positions you can take.
If you have a tangible job offer and you are very sure that you will not be faced with your employer suing to prevent you from working in the business field, give as much notice as you can and make yourself available to help with the transition.
Be prepared for the possibility that when you give notice your current employer may have security pack your personal belongings and escort you out. That happens under stress.
Do not under any circumstances disparage your current employer or have contact with the dissatisfied client. That way lies dragons so to speak.
answered Aug 18 '14 at 2:36
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Whether your employer is sued is not your responsibility.
If you signed an employment agreement check for any non-compete limitations on positions you can take.
If you have a tangible job offer and you are very sure that you will not be faced with your employer suing to prevent you from working in the business field, give as much notice as you can and make yourself available to help with the transition.
Be prepared for the possibility that when you give notice your current employer may have security pack your personal belongings and escort you out. That happens under stress.
Do not under any circumstances disparage your current employer or have contact with the dissatisfied client. That way lies dragons so to speak.
answered Aug 18 '14 at 2:36
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up vote
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Whether your employer is sued is not your responsibility.
If you signed an employment agreement check for any non-compete limitations on positions you can take.
If you have a tangible job offer and you are very sure that you will not be faced with your employer suing to prevent you from working in the business field, give as much notice as you can and make yourself available to help with the transition.
Be prepared for the possibility that when you give notice your current employer may have security pack your personal belongings and escort you out. That happens under stress.
Do not under any circumstances disparage your current employer or have contact with the dissatisfied client. That way lies dragons so to speak.
answered Aug 18 '14 at 2:36
piquet
47345
Whether your employer is sued is not your responsibility.
If you signed an employment agreement check for any non-compete limitations on positions you can take.
If you have a tangible job offer and you are very sure that you will not be faced with your employer suing to prevent you from working in the business field, give as much notice as you can and make yourself available to help with the transition.
Be prepared for the possibility that when you give notice your current employer may have security pack your personal belongings and escort you out. That happens under stress.
Do not under any circumstances disparage your current employer or have contact with the dissatisfied client. That way lies dragons so to speak.
answered Aug 18 '14 at 2:36
piquet
47345
answered Aug 18 '14 at 2:36
piquet
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answered Aug 18 '14 at 2:36
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Hi Jason, I have edited your question slightly to make it more on topic here. Legal questions are off topic but I think your core question here is great. If I changed the intent too much let me know or feel free to edit your question - great question!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 12 '14 at 20:30
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Lawsuit aside, what leads you to conclude that those colleagues who you like and respect are not just as capable of finding better jobs as you, and just as eager and willing to do so? From your description it hardly sounds like they're loving their current job(s).
– aroth
Aug 13 '14 at 4:34
Generally speaking, you shouldn't worry about what happens AFTER you leave. Even so, one person leaving shouldn't make that much of a difference unless you're the project lead or someone else who is directly responsible for the project's outcome. If you are simply one of many team members, I see no reason why it would matter. Above all else, though, remember that you have to look out for yourself.
– Omegacron
May 6 '15 at 18:51
" I worry if I were to leave this project in the state that it's in, my current employer would be sued by the client." Projects should not be run in a way that a single employee leaving could lead to a lawsuit. The errors have obviously been made far earlier. This is not your fault.
– Stephan Kolassa
Sep 9 '15 at 13:24