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Some time ago, I tried to apply for a job and, I must say, I acted in a really poor way. Let me explain:
- I had a job, and I was happy with it, but I wanted to have some fresh air and switch positions (basically, going from web developer to mobile application developer).
- I saw that one of the most successful companies in my country had the perfect spot for me. To sum up, everything I personally requested was covered in this position.
- I saw, on the other side, that what they were doing wasn't 100% usable to me, from a user point of view, so I started having ideas on how to improve it. After talking about it with other people (experts and non experts), we all agreed there were some flaws in the company's app.
- I sent them a CV and a cover letter, in which I was really enthusiastic about what I could achieve in the company, making their app better and more usable.
As you can imagine, I wasn't aware of what I did until I hit the Send button. So, it is clear that anybody telling you "ok, your job is done, I will do it better without your mistakes" sounds really pedantic to me now (I didn't say it that way, but you get the point). They did never answer, but in the job hunting platform my resume was marked as "Rejected", so they clearly read it. I din't receive any specific feedback as to why I was unsuccessful
Almost 12 months later, they have placed again the same offer. Chances are they see my name and just skip my own resume, but in case they want to give me a second opportunity, how should I face it? Let me put it easy:
How can I redeem myself after my first terrible cover letter, without crawling?
job-offer applications human-resources
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Some time ago, I tried to apply for a job and, I must say, I acted in a really poor way. Let me explain:
- I had a job, and I was happy with it, but I wanted to have some fresh air and switch positions (basically, going from web developer to mobile application developer).
- I saw that one of the most successful companies in my country had the perfect spot for me. To sum up, everything I personally requested was covered in this position.
- I saw, on the other side, that what they were doing wasn't 100% usable to me, from a user point of view, so I started having ideas on how to improve it. After talking about it with other people (experts and non experts), we all agreed there were some flaws in the company's app.
- I sent them a CV and a cover letter, in which I was really enthusiastic about what I could achieve in the company, making their app better and more usable.
As you can imagine, I wasn't aware of what I did until I hit the Send button. So, it is clear that anybody telling you "ok, your job is done, I will do it better without your mistakes" sounds really pedantic to me now (I didn't say it that way, but you get the point). They did never answer, but in the job hunting platform my resume was marked as "Rejected", so they clearly read it. I din't receive any specific feedback as to why I was unsuccessful
Almost 12 months later, they have placed again the same offer. Chances are they see my name and just skip my own resume, but in case they want to give me a second opportunity, how should I face it? Let me put it easy:
How can I redeem myself after my first terrible cover letter, without crawling?
job-offer applications human-resources
edited Aug 7 '14 at 9:38
Clair
2,51411021
asked Aug 7 '14 at 9:04
Korcholis
1,4991925
marked as duplicate by Jim G., jcmeloni, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, Michael Grubey Aug 8 '14 at 3:34
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
Hi @Korcholis. Couple of quick questions, did you receive any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful the first time you applied and how long has it been since you originally applied? Both of these may influence potential answers.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:22
Hi @Clair, thanks for commenting. No, they didn't give me feedback. I just received a "Rejected" from the job platform, and it's been about a year, a little less. I asked it around Oct2013
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:27
Hi @Korcholis. I've edited the question slightly to include the additional information you've provided.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:46
Yes, thanks @Clair, I approved the edition
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:49
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Note that you are implying that there is a relationship between the rejection and your mail. There may not be any.
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Aug 7 '14 at 11:23
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Some time ago, I tried to apply for a job and, I must say, I acted in a really poor way. Let me explain:
- I had a job, and I was happy with it, but I wanted to have some fresh air and switch positions (basically, going from web developer to mobile application developer).
- I saw that one of the most successful companies in my country had the perfect spot for me. To sum up, everything I personally requested was covered in this position.
- I saw, on the other side, that what they were doing wasn't 100% usable to me, from a user point of view, so I started having ideas on how to improve it. After talking about it with other people (experts and non experts), we all agreed there were some flaws in the company's app.
- I sent them a CV and a cover letter, in which I was really enthusiastic about what I could achieve in the company, making their app better and more usable.
As you can imagine, I wasn't aware of what I did until I hit the Send button. So, it is clear that anybody telling you "ok, your job is done, I will do it better without your mistakes" sounds really pedantic to me now (I didn't say it that way, but you get the point). They did never answer, but in the job hunting platform my resume was marked as "Rejected", so they clearly read it. I din't receive any specific feedback as to why I was unsuccessful
Almost 12 months later, they have placed again the same offer. Chances are they see my name and just skip my own resume, but in case they want to give me a second opportunity, how should I face it? Let me put it easy:
How can I redeem myself after my first terrible cover letter, without crawling?
job-offer applications human-resources
edited Aug 7 '14 at 9:38
Clair
2,51411021
asked Aug 7 '14 at 9:04
Korcholis
1,4991925
This question already has an answer here:
How often should I apply to the same company?
2 answers
Some time ago, I tried to apply for a job and, I must say, I acted in a really poor way. Let me explain:
- I had a job, and I was happy with it, but I wanted to have some fresh air and switch positions (basically, going from web developer to mobile application developer).
- I saw that one of the most successful companies in my country had the perfect spot for me. To sum up, everything I personally requested was covered in this position.
- I saw, on the other side, that what they were doing wasn't 100% usable to me, from a user point of view, so I started having ideas on how to improve it. After talking about it with other people (experts and non experts), we all agreed there were some flaws in the company's app.
- I sent them a CV and a cover letter, in which I was really enthusiastic about what I could achieve in the company, making their app better and more usable.
As you can imagine, I wasn't aware of what I did until I hit the Send button. So, it is clear that anybody telling you "ok, your job is done, I will do it better without your mistakes" sounds really pedantic to me now (I didn't say it that way, but you get the point). They did never answer, but in the job hunting platform my resume was marked as "Rejected", so they clearly read it. I din't receive any specific feedback as to why I was unsuccessful
Almost 12 months later, they have placed again the same offer. Chances are they see my name and just skip my own resume, but in case they want to give me a second opportunity, how should I face it? Let me put it easy:
How can I redeem myself after my first terrible cover letter, without crawling?
This question already has an answer here:
How often should I apply to the same company?
2 answers
job-offer applications human-resources
edited Aug 7 '14 at 9:38
Clair
2,51411021
asked Aug 7 '14 at 9:04
Korcholis
1,4991925
edited Aug 7 '14 at 9:38
Clair
2,51411021
edited Aug 7 '14 at 9:38
Clair
2,51411021
edited Aug 7 '14 at 9:38
Clair
2,51411021
2,51411021
asked Aug 7 '14 at 9:04
Korcholis
1,4991925
asked Aug 7 '14 at 9:04
Korcholis
1,4991925
asked Aug 7 '14 at 9:04
Korcholis
1,4991925
1,4991925
marked as duplicate by Jim G., jcmeloni, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, Michael Grubey Aug 8 '14 at 3:34
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
marked as duplicate by Jim G., jcmeloni, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, Michael Grubey Aug 8 '14 at 3:34
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
Hi @Korcholis. Couple of quick questions, did you receive any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful the first time you applied and how long has it been since you originally applied? Both of these may influence potential answers.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:22
Hi @Clair, thanks for commenting. No, they didn't give me feedback. I just received a "Rejected" from the job platform, and it's been about a year, a little less. I asked it around Oct2013
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:27
Hi @Korcholis. I've edited the question slightly to include the additional information you've provided.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:46
Yes, thanks @Clair, I approved the edition
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:49
1
Note that you are implying that there is a relationship between the rejection and your mail. There may not be any.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 7 '14 at 11:23
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Hi @Korcholis. Couple of quick questions, did you receive any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful the first time you applied and how long has it been since you originally applied? Both of these may influence potential answers.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:22
Hi @Clair, thanks for commenting. No, they didn't give me feedback. I just received a "Rejected" from the job platform, and it's been about a year, a little less. I asked it around Oct2013
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:27
Hi @Korcholis. I've edited the question slightly to include the additional information you've provided.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:46
Yes, thanks @Clair, I approved the edition
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:49
1
Note that you are implying that there is a relationship between the rejection and your mail. There may not be any.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 7 '14 at 11:23
Hi @Korcholis. Couple of quick questions, did you receive any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful the first time you applied and how long has it been since you originally applied? Both of these may influence potential answers.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:22
Hi @Korcholis. Couple of quick questions, did you receive any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful the first time you applied and how long has it been since you originally applied? Both of these may influence potential answers.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:22
Hi @Clair, thanks for commenting. No, they didn't give me feedback. I just received a "Rejected" from the job platform, and it's been about a year, a little less. I asked it around Oct2013
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:27
Hi @Clair, thanks for commenting. No, they didn't give me feedback. I just received a "Rejected" from the job platform, and it's been about a year, a little less. I asked it around Oct2013
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:27
Hi @Korcholis. I've edited the question slightly to include the additional information you've provided.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:46
Hi @Korcholis. I've edited the question slightly to include the additional information you've provided.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:46
Yes, thanks @Clair, I approved the edition
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:49
Yes, thanks @Clair, I approved the edition
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:49
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Note that you are implying that there is a relationship between the rejection and your mail. There may not be any.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 7 '14 at 11:23
Note that you are implying that there is a relationship between the rejection and your mail. There may not be any.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 7 '14 at 11:23
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A year is enough time for someone to reapply. Don't mention anything about your previous application including that cover letter. They may have purged your name off their systems and there is no need to resurrect old ghosts.
While you have ideas of your own, don't volunteer them. Listen first, then speak. You don't want to be caught enthusiastically advocating ideas that they rejected in their internal debates. And if those internal debates were rancorous, your mention of these ideas may bring back some bad memories. I never put forward any idea of mine without giving the other party the option to turn it down and be comfortable about turning it down.
You didn't disclose anything about your cover letter that would enable me to conclude that your cover letter is what got you killed as an applicant. For this reason. I am mildly concerned that they rejected you based on other factors, like your qualifications.
answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
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Thanks for answering! So the best thing I could do is to just let it pass as nothing happened and try again? Sounds great to me. Anyway, the way I mentioned it in the cover letter was radically abrupt, telling that the app should have this and that, and if they let me in, I'd make the downloads increase. Pretty pedantic. As I told to Jan Doggen, I helped hiring another IT in my previous job, somebody did this too, and I just skipped the resume (for the same reason). That's why I kind of panicked about that right now.
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A year is enough time for someone to reapply. Don't mention anything about your previous application including that cover letter. They may have purged your name off their systems and there is no need to resurrect old ghosts.
While you have ideas of your own, don't volunteer them. Listen first, then speak. You don't want to be caught enthusiastically advocating ideas that they rejected in their internal debates. And if those internal debates were rancorous, your mention of these ideas may bring back some bad memories. I never put forward any idea of mine without giving the other party the option to turn it down and be comfortable about turning it down.
You didn't disclose anything about your cover letter that would enable me to conclude that your cover letter is what got you killed as an applicant. For this reason. I am mildly concerned that they rejected you based on other factors, like your qualifications.
answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
Thanks for answering! So the best thing I could do is to just let it pass as nothing happened and try again? Sounds great to me. Anyway, the way I mentioned it in the cover letter was radically abrupt, telling that the app should have this and that, and if they let me in, I'd make the downloads increase. Pretty pedantic. As I told to Jan Doggen, I helped hiring another IT in my previous job, somebody did this too, and I just skipped the resume (for the same reason). That's why I kind of panicked about that right now.
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 12:59
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up vote
3
down vote
accepted
A year is enough time for someone to reapply. Don't mention anything about your previous application including that cover letter. They may have purged your name off their systems and there is no need to resurrect old ghosts.
While you have ideas of your own, don't volunteer them. Listen first, then speak. You don't want to be caught enthusiastically advocating ideas that they rejected in their internal debates. And if those internal debates were rancorous, your mention of these ideas may bring back some bad memories. I never put forward any idea of mine without giving the other party the option to turn it down and be comfortable about turning it down.
You didn't disclose anything about your cover letter that would enable me to conclude that your cover letter is what got you killed as an applicant. For this reason. I am mildly concerned that they rejected you based on other factors, like your qualifications.
answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
Thanks for answering! So the best thing I could do is to just let it pass as nothing happened and try again? Sounds great to me. Anyway, the way I mentioned it in the cover letter was radically abrupt, telling that the app should have this and that, and if they let me in, I'd make the downloads increase. Pretty pedantic. As I told to Jan Doggen, I helped hiring another IT in my previous job, somebody did this too, and I just skipped the resume (for the same reason). That's why I kind of panicked about that right now.
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 12:59
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up vote
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down vote
accepted
up vote
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down vote
accepted
A year is enough time for someone to reapply. Don't mention anything about your previous application including that cover letter. They may have purged your name off their systems and there is no need to resurrect old ghosts.
While you have ideas of your own, don't volunteer them. Listen first, then speak. You don't want to be caught enthusiastically advocating ideas that they rejected in their internal debates. And if those internal debates were rancorous, your mention of these ideas may bring back some bad memories. I never put forward any idea of mine without giving the other party the option to turn it down and be comfortable about turning it down.
You didn't disclose anything about your cover letter that would enable me to conclude that your cover letter is what got you killed as an applicant. For this reason. I am mildly concerned that they rejected you based on other factors, like your qualifications.
answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
A year is enough time for someone to reapply. Don't mention anything about your previous application including that cover letter. They may have purged your name off their systems and there is no need to resurrect old ghosts.
While you have ideas of your own, don't volunteer them. Listen first, then speak. You don't want to be caught enthusiastically advocating ideas that they rejected in their internal debates. And if those internal debates were rancorous, your mention of these ideas may bring back some bad memories. I never put forward any idea of mine without giving the other party the option to turn it down and be comfortable about turning it down.
You didn't disclose anything about your cover letter that would enable me to conclude that your cover letter is what got you killed as an applicant. For this reason. I am mildly concerned that they rejected you based on other factors, like your qualifications.
answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
edited Aug 7 '14 at 9:50
answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
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answered Aug 7 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
68.9k7118254
Thanks for answering! So the best thing I could do is to just let it pass as nothing happened and try again? Sounds great to me. Anyway, the way I mentioned it in the cover letter was radically abrupt, telling that the app should have this and that, and if they let me in, I'd make the downloads increase. Pretty pedantic. As I told to Jan Doggen, I helped hiring another IT in my previous job, somebody did this too, and I just skipped the resume (for the same reason). That's why I kind of panicked about that right now.
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 12:59
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Thanks for answering! So the best thing I could do is to just let it pass as nothing happened and try again? Sounds great to me. Anyway, the way I mentioned it in the cover letter was radically abrupt, telling that the app should have this and that, and if they let me in, I'd make the downloads increase. Pretty pedantic. As I told to Jan Doggen, I helped hiring another IT in my previous job, somebody did this too, and I just skipped the resume (for the same reason). That's why I kind of panicked about that right now.
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 12:59
Thanks for answering! So the best thing I could do is to just let it pass as nothing happened and try again? Sounds great to me. Anyway, the way I mentioned it in the cover letter was radically abrupt, telling that the app should have this and that, and if they let me in, I'd make the downloads increase. Pretty pedantic. As I told to Jan Doggen, I helped hiring another IT in my previous job, somebody did this too, and I just skipped the resume (for the same reason). That's why I kind of panicked about that right now.
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 12:59
Thanks for answering! So the best thing I could do is to just let it pass as nothing happened and try again? Sounds great to me. Anyway, the way I mentioned it in the cover letter was radically abrupt, telling that the app should have this and that, and if they let me in, I'd make the downloads increase. Pretty pedantic. As I told to Jan Doggen, I helped hiring another IT in my previous job, somebody did this too, and I just skipped the resume (for the same reason). That's why I kind of panicked about that right now.
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 12:59
suggest improvements |Â
Hi @Korcholis. Couple of quick questions, did you receive any feedback as to why you were unsuccessful the first time you applied and how long has it been since you originally applied? Both of these may influence potential answers.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:22
Hi @Clair, thanks for commenting. No, they didn't give me feedback. I just received a "Rejected" from the job platform, and it's been about a year, a little less. I asked it around Oct2013
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:27
Hi @Korcholis. I've edited the question slightly to include the additional information you've provided.
– Clair
Aug 7 '14 at 9:46
Yes, thanks @Clair, I approved the edition
– Korcholis
Aug 7 '14 at 9:49
1
Note that you are implying that there is a relationship between the rejection and your mail. There may not be any.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 7 '14 at 11:23