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I am currently working as Software Developer and I am about (or planning) to resign/leave my current employer soon.
But I got some difficult situations (for me) applying for new job while employed in my current employer.
Situations:
- Current employer is very strict especially about time/schedule
- Working hours 8am - 5pm
Vacation leaves should file one month before the vacation date (whole or half day)- Sick Leaves strictly require medical certificate
Based on my experience applying a job, it usually scheduled on weekdays and usually takes 2hrs-4hrs (or 6hrs) to complete a series of interviews and exams (depends every company). And attending interviews and exams on early morning, lunch or after work is not much feasible.
So there, it's pretty hard for me,
I got no problem on my previous job applications because of the flexible working schedule in my previous employers.
My question is: How to attend interviews and exams while employed in a strict company during weekdays (8am - 5pm)?
BTW, I am planning to leave within 2 or 3 months.
I just want to secure a new job before leaving my current employer.
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I am currently working as Software Developer and I am about (or planning) to resign/leave my current employer soon.
But I got some difficult situations (for me) applying for new job while employed in my current employer.
Situations:
- Current employer is very strict especially about time/schedule
- Working hours 8am - 5pm
Vacation leaves should file one month before the vacation date (whole or half day)- Sick Leaves strictly require medical certificate
Based on my experience applying a job, it usually scheduled on weekdays and usually takes 2hrs-4hrs (or 6hrs) to complete a series of interviews and exams (depends every company). And attending interviews and exams on early morning, lunch or after work is not much feasible.
So there, it's pretty hard for me,
I got no problem on my previous job applications because of the flexible working schedule in my previous employers.
My question is: How to attend interviews and exams while employed in a strict company during weekdays (8am - 5pm)?
BTW, I am planning to leave within 2 or 3 months.
I just want to secure a new job before leaving my current employer.
interviewing software-industry job-search job-change resignation
edited Aug 15 '14 at 19:09
Jan Doggen
11.5k145066
asked Aug 15 '14 at 5:48
jpr
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possible duplicate of Is it considered acceptable to take vacation time for job searching?
– gnat
Aug 15 '14 at 6:03
1
Can't you just take unpaid leave? Even a full day is not much of a hit on your salary in the big picture.
– Juha Untinen
Aug 15 '14 at 8:01
2
@Juha, I can take unpaid leave but they will interrogate after returning to work. They will also classify that as "Job Abandonment".
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:08
2
Isn't the discussion here in the comments (as well as the 'possible duplicate' one) irrelevant? -> "Vacation Leaves should file one month before the vacation date" is a much more important bottleneck. jpr has very little chance if he can only make interview appointments that are +1 month in the future.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 15 '14 at 19:07
4
Well I guess you know one of the questions to ask in your upcoming job interview(s). Don't ever work for a company as draconian as the one you are currently at.
– Dunk
Aug 15 '14 at 21:38
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up vote
11
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up vote
11
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I am currently working as Software Developer and I am about (or planning) to resign/leave my current employer soon.
But I got some difficult situations (for me) applying for new job while employed in my current employer.
Situations:
- Current employer is very strict especially about time/schedule
- Working hours 8am - 5pm
Vacation leaves should file one month before the vacation date (whole or half day)- Sick Leaves strictly require medical certificate
Based on my experience applying a job, it usually scheduled on weekdays and usually takes 2hrs-4hrs (or 6hrs) to complete a series of interviews and exams (depends every company). And attending interviews and exams on early morning, lunch or after work is not much feasible.
So there, it's pretty hard for me,
I got no problem on my previous job applications because of the flexible working schedule in my previous employers.
My question is: How to attend interviews and exams while employed in a strict company during weekdays (8am - 5pm)?
BTW, I am planning to leave within 2 or 3 months.
I just want to secure a new job before leaving my current employer.
interviewing software-industry job-search job-change resignation
edited Aug 15 '14 at 19:09
Jan Doggen
11.5k145066
asked Aug 15 '14 at 5:48
jpr
568
I am currently working as Software Developer and I am about (or planning) to resign/leave my current employer soon.
But I got some difficult situations (for me) applying for new job while employed in my current employer.
Situations:
- Current employer is very strict especially about time/schedule
- Working hours 8am - 5pm
Vacation leaves should file one month before the vacation date (whole or half day)- Sick Leaves strictly require medical certificate
Based on my experience applying a job, it usually scheduled on weekdays and usually takes 2hrs-4hrs (or 6hrs) to complete a series of interviews and exams (depends every company). And attending interviews and exams on early morning, lunch or after work is not much feasible.
So there, it's pretty hard for me,
I got no problem on my previous job applications because of the flexible working schedule in my previous employers.
My question is: How to attend interviews and exams while employed in a strict company during weekdays (8am - 5pm)?
BTW, I am planning to leave within 2 or 3 months.
I just want to secure a new job before leaving my current employer.
interviewing software-industry job-search job-change resignation
edited Aug 15 '14 at 19:09
Jan Doggen
11.5k145066
asked Aug 15 '14 at 5:48
jpr
568
edited Aug 15 '14 at 19:09
Jan Doggen
11.5k145066
edited Aug 15 '14 at 19:09
Jan Doggen
11.5k145066
edited Aug 15 '14 at 19:09
Jan Doggen
11.5k145066
11.5k145066
asked Aug 15 '14 at 5:48
jpr
568
asked Aug 15 '14 at 5:48
jpr
568
asked Aug 15 '14 at 5:48
jpr
568
568
1
possible duplicate of Is it considered acceptable to take vacation time for job searching?
– gnat
Aug 15 '14 at 6:03
1
Can't you just take unpaid leave? Even a full day is not much of a hit on your salary in the big picture.
– Juha Untinen
Aug 15 '14 at 8:01
2
@Juha, I can take unpaid leave but they will interrogate after returning to work. They will also classify that as "Job Abandonment".
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:08
2
Isn't the discussion here in the comments (as well as the 'possible duplicate' one) irrelevant? -> "Vacation Leaves should file one month before the vacation date" is a much more important bottleneck. jpr has very little chance if he can only make interview appointments that are +1 month in the future.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 15 '14 at 19:07
4
Well I guess you know one of the questions to ask in your upcoming job interview(s). Don't ever work for a company as draconian as the one you are currently at.
– Dunk
Aug 15 '14 at 21:38
 |Â
show 8 more comments
1
possible duplicate of Is it considered acceptable to take vacation time for job searching?
– gnat
Aug 15 '14 at 6:03
1
Can't you just take unpaid leave? Even a full day is not much of a hit on your salary in the big picture.
– Juha Untinen
Aug 15 '14 at 8:01
2
@Juha, I can take unpaid leave but they will interrogate after returning to work. They will also classify that as "Job Abandonment".
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:08
2
Isn't the discussion here in the comments (as well as the 'possible duplicate' one) irrelevant? -> "Vacation Leaves should file one month before the vacation date" is a much more important bottleneck. jpr has very little chance if he can only make interview appointments that are +1 month in the future.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 15 '14 at 19:07
4
Well I guess you know one of the questions to ask in your upcoming job interview(s). Don't ever work for a company as draconian as the one you are currently at.
– Dunk
Aug 15 '14 at 21:38
1
1
possible duplicate of Is it considered acceptable to take vacation time for job searching?
– gnat
Aug 15 '14 at 6:03
possible duplicate of Is it considered acceptable to take vacation time for job searching?
– gnat
Aug 15 '14 at 6:03
1
1
Can't you just take unpaid leave? Even a full day is not much of a hit on your salary in the big picture.
– Juha Untinen
Aug 15 '14 at 8:01
Can't you just take unpaid leave? Even a full day is not much of a hit on your salary in the big picture.
– Juha Untinen
Aug 15 '14 at 8:01
2
2
@Juha, I can take unpaid leave but they will interrogate after returning to work. They will also classify that as "Job Abandonment".
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:08
@Juha, I can take unpaid leave but they will interrogate after returning to work. They will also classify that as "Job Abandonment".
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:08
2
2
Isn't the discussion here in the comments (as well as the 'possible duplicate' one) irrelevant? -> "Vacation Leaves should file one month before the vacation date" is a much more important bottleneck. jpr has very little chance if he can only make interview appointments that are +1 month in the future.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 15 '14 at 19:07
Isn't the discussion here in the comments (as well as the 'possible duplicate' one) irrelevant? -> "Vacation Leaves should file one month before the vacation date" is a much more important bottleneck. jpr has very little chance if he can only make interview appointments that are +1 month in the future.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 15 '14 at 19:07
4
4
Well I guess you know one of the questions to ask in your upcoming job interview(s). Don't ever work for a company as draconian as the one you are currently at.
– Dunk
Aug 15 '14 at 21:38
Well I guess you know one of the questions to ask in your upcoming job interview(s). Don't ever work for a company as draconian as the one you are currently at.
– Dunk
Aug 15 '14 at 21:38
 |Â
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It's not quite the same situation, but when I was recently interviewing looking for a new role 200 miles away from my current location, what I did was essentially to book a couple of days off well in advance, and then managed to arrange all my in person interviews over the course of those two days. The crucial thing here is to explain your situation to both any recruiters you may be working with and to the companies you're interviewing with - my experience was that they will generally be pretty accommodating. That all said, I did miss out on one interview due to my lack of flexibility.
Putting my other hat on as someone involved with interviewing people, if there's a candidate that's good enough that we're going to get them in for an in-person interview, all the companies I've worked at would generally be prepared to move things around to suit that person's schedule, particularly if they're giving a valid reason why they've got a restricted set of times they're available.
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
Hi @Philip, thanks for the answer, I also consider this solution before, my only concern here is that I need to file/book one month ahead. Maybe I should apply one week before that date (Hoping that interviewers will respond earlier). Philip thanks again, seems that this one is better than leaving with no next job :)
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:16
3
@jpr The whole idea of this is to get around the whole "needing to book leave one month ahead" problem - you book (say) 2 days off at the end of September, then when applying for jobs you put in big letters on your resume something like "Due to strict schedules in my current role, I am available for in person interviews only on <whatever dates you've booked off>".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 15 '14 at 8:27
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Were I in your situation, given the arbitrary and as mentioned above draconian rules you're subject to, I'd simply lie to my current employer.
What would happen if you called in and said "I'm having a personal emergency. It's not sick, it's a family emergency, etc, etc." Or what if you had a logistical issue like car trouble or a plumbing emergency? You can just go ahead and tell your employer that is happening.
Also consider the worst case scenario. Would your current employer terminate you for taking an emergency personal day? It's possible, but not likely. And if so, you're already in the process of finding a new gig, so no REAL harm there.
They're being ridiculous about scheduling, you're in the right (I'd say morally obligated) to be ridiculous back.
I mean, in my experience interviewing people, we wouldn't wait 1 month from first contact to interview. That just isn't an option for the companies I've worked for.
And don't think for 1 second your current company would give you 1 month notice if they were going to fire you. Remember, it's not personal, it's business.
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
Thanks spencer, I think I can do this once (or twice) especially for emergency interview(s). :)
– jpr
Aug 18 '14 at 0:52
2
Personally, I'd strongly recommend against lying to your employer under almost any circumstances. Imagine the conversation if they found out: "Dear OldEmployer, could you provide us a reference for jpr? Thanks, NewEmployer." "Dear NewEmployer, Sure. jpr didn't like some of our policies, but rather than discussing the situation with us, he lied to us. Thanks, OldEmployer". "Dear jpr, As a result of the references we received, we have decided not to offer you a position at this time. Thanks, NewEmployer".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 18 '14 at 7:43
3
@PhilipKendall "almost any circumstances" sounds like a lot. Some draconian employers, like perhaps this one, purposefully have strict rules about taking time off to discourage looking for new jobs. If NewEmployer isn't able to understand this, I suggest finding MoreUnderstandingEmployerOfTheKindWhichExistsInAbundance.
– Chan-Ho Suh
Sep 9 '15 at 1:50
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2 Answers
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active
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up vote
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It's not quite the same situation, but when I was recently interviewing looking for a new role 200 miles away from my current location, what I did was essentially to book a couple of days off well in advance, and then managed to arrange all my in person interviews over the course of those two days. The crucial thing here is to explain your situation to both any recruiters you may be working with and to the companies you're interviewing with - my experience was that they will generally be pretty accommodating. That all said, I did miss out on one interview due to my lack of flexibility.
Putting my other hat on as someone involved with interviewing people, if there's a candidate that's good enough that we're going to get them in for an in-person interview, all the companies I've worked at would generally be prepared to move things around to suit that person's schedule, particularly if they're giving a valid reason why they've got a restricted set of times they're available.
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
Hi @Philip, thanks for the answer, I also consider this solution before, my only concern here is that I need to file/book one month ahead. Maybe I should apply one week before that date (Hoping that interviewers will respond earlier). Philip thanks again, seems that this one is better than leaving with no next job :)
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:16
3
@jpr The whole idea of this is to get around the whole "needing to book leave one month ahead" problem - you book (say) 2 days off at the end of September, then when applying for jobs you put in big letters on your resume something like "Due to strict schedules in my current role, I am available for in person interviews only on <whatever dates you've booked off>".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 15 '14 at 8:27
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
It's not quite the same situation, but when I was recently interviewing looking for a new role 200 miles away from my current location, what I did was essentially to book a couple of days off well in advance, and then managed to arrange all my in person interviews over the course of those two days. The crucial thing here is to explain your situation to both any recruiters you may be working with and to the companies you're interviewing with - my experience was that they will generally be pretty accommodating. That all said, I did miss out on one interview due to my lack of flexibility.
Putting my other hat on as someone involved with interviewing people, if there's a candidate that's good enough that we're going to get them in for an in-person interview, all the companies I've worked at would generally be prepared to move things around to suit that person's schedule, particularly if they're giving a valid reason why they've got a restricted set of times they're available.
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
Hi @Philip, thanks for the answer, I also consider this solution before, my only concern here is that I need to file/book one month ahead. Maybe I should apply one week before that date (Hoping that interviewers will respond earlier). Philip thanks again, seems that this one is better than leaving with no next job :)
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:16
3
@jpr The whole idea of this is to get around the whole "needing to book leave one month ahead" problem - you book (say) 2 days off at the end of September, then when applying for jobs you put in big letters on your resume something like "Due to strict schedules in my current role, I am available for in person interviews only on <whatever dates you've booked off>".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 15 '14 at 8:27
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
It's not quite the same situation, but when I was recently interviewing looking for a new role 200 miles away from my current location, what I did was essentially to book a couple of days off well in advance, and then managed to arrange all my in person interviews over the course of those two days. The crucial thing here is to explain your situation to both any recruiters you may be working with and to the companies you're interviewing with - my experience was that they will generally be pretty accommodating. That all said, I did miss out on one interview due to my lack of flexibility.
Putting my other hat on as someone involved with interviewing people, if there's a candidate that's good enough that we're going to get them in for an in-person interview, all the companies I've worked at would generally be prepared to move things around to suit that person's schedule, particularly if they're giving a valid reason why they've got a restricted set of times they're available.
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
It's not quite the same situation, but when I was recently interviewing looking for a new role 200 miles away from my current location, what I did was essentially to book a couple of days off well in advance, and then managed to arrange all my in person interviews over the course of those two days. The crucial thing here is to explain your situation to both any recruiters you may be working with and to the companies you're interviewing with - my experience was that they will generally be pretty accommodating. That all said, I did miss out on one interview due to my lack of flexibility.
Putting my other hat on as someone involved with interviewing people, if there's a candidate that's good enough that we're going to get them in for an in-person interview, all the companies I've worked at would generally be prepared to move things around to suit that person's schedule, particularly if they're giving a valid reason why they've got a restricted set of times they're available.
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
answered Aug 15 '14 at 7:34
Philip Kendall
41.1k27105136
41.1k27105136
Hi @Philip, thanks for the answer, I also consider this solution before, my only concern here is that I need to file/book one month ahead. Maybe I should apply one week before that date (Hoping that interviewers will respond earlier). Philip thanks again, seems that this one is better than leaving with no next job :)
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:16
3
@jpr The whole idea of this is to get around the whole "needing to book leave one month ahead" problem - you book (say) 2 days off at the end of September, then when applying for jobs you put in big letters on your resume something like "Due to strict schedules in my current role, I am available for in person interviews only on <whatever dates you've booked off>".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 15 '14 at 8:27
suggest improvements |Â
Hi @Philip, thanks for the answer, I also consider this solution before, my only concern here is that I need to file/book one month ahead. Maybe I should apply one week before that date (Hoping that interviewers will respond earlier). Philip thanks again, seems that this one is better than leaving with no next job :)
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:16
3
@jpr The whole idea of this is to get around the whole "needing to book leave one month ahead" problem - you book (say) 2 days off at the end of September, then when applying for jobs you put in big letters on your resume something like "Due to strict schedules in my current role, I am available for in person interviews only on <whatever dates you've booked off>".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 15 '14 at 8:27
Hi @Philip, thanks for the answer, I also consider this solution before, my only concern here is that I need to file/book one month ahead. Maybe I should apply one week before that date (Hoping that interviewers will respond earlier). Philip thanks again, seems that this one is better than leaving with no next job :)
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:16
Hi @Philip, thanks for the answer, I also consider this solution before, my only concern here is that I need to file/book one month ahead. Maybe I should apply one week before that date (Hoping that interviewers will respond earlier). Philip thanks again, seems that this one is better than leaving with no next job :)
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:16
3
3
@jpr The whole idea of this is to get around the whole "needing to book leave one month ahead" problem - you book (say) 2 days off at the end of September, then when applying for jobs you put in big letters on your resume something like "Due to strict schedules in my current role, I am available for in person interviews only on <whatever dates you've booked off>".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 15 '14 at 8:27
@jpr The whole idea of this is to get around the whole "needing to book leave one month ahead" problem - you book (say) 2 days off at the end of September, then when applying for jobs you put in big letters on your resume something like "Due to strict schedules in my current role, I am available for in person interviews only on <whatever dates you've booked off>".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 15 '14 at 8:27
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
9
down vote
Were I in your situation, given the arbitrary and as mentioned above draconian rules you're subject to, I'd simply lie to my current employer.
What would happen if you called in and said "I'm having a personal emergency. It's not sick, it's a family emergency, etc, etc." Or what if you had a logistical issue like car trouble or a plumbing emergency? You can just go ahead and tell your employer that is happening.
Also consider the worst case scenario. Would your current employer terminate you for taking an emergency personal day? It's possible, but not likely. And if so, you're already in the process of finding a new gig, so no REAL harm there.
They're being ridiculous about scheduling, you're in the right (I'd say morally obligated) to be ridiculous back.
I mean, in my experience interviewing people, we wouldn't wait 1 month from first contact to interview. That just isn't an option for the companies I've worked for.
And don't think for 1 second your current company would give you 1 month notice if they were going to fire you. Remember, it's not personal, it's business.
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
Thanks spencer, I think I can do this once (or twice) especially for emergency interview(s). :)
– jpr
Aug 18 '14 at 0:52
2
Personally, I'd strongly recommend against lying to your employer under almost any circumstances. Imagine the conversation if they found out: "Dear OldEmployer, could you provide us a reference for jpr? Thanks, NewEmployer." "Dear NewEmployer, Sure. jpr didn't like some of our policies, but rather than discussing the situation with us, he lied to us. Thanks, OldEmployer". "Dear jpr, As a result of the references we received, we have decided not to offer you a position at this time. Thanks, NewEmployer".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 18 '14 at 7:43
3
@PhilipKendall "almost any circumstances" sounds like a lot. Some draconian employers, like perhaps this one, purposefully have strict rules about taking time off to discourage looking for new jobs. If NewEmployer isn't able to understand this, I suggest finding MoreUnderstandingEmployerOfTheKindWhichExistsInAbundance.
– Chan-Ho Suh
Sep 9 '15 at 1:50
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
9
down vote
Were I in your situation, given the arbitrary and as mentioned above draconian rules you're subject to, I'd simply lie to my current employer.
What would happen if you called in and said "I'm having a personal emergency. It's not sick, it's a family emergency, etc, etc." Or what if you had a logistical issue like car trouble or a plumbing emergency? You can just go ahead and tell your employer that is happening.
Also consider the worst case scenario. Would your current employer terminate you for taking an emergency personal day? It's possible, but not likely. And if so, you're already in the process of finding a new gig, so no REAL harm there.
They're being ridiculous about scheduling, you're in the right (I'd say morally obligated) to be ridiculous back.
I mean, in my experience interviewing people, we wouldn't wait 1 month from first contact to interview. That just isn't an option for the companies I've worked for.
And don't think for 1 second your current company would give you 1 month notice if they were going to fire you. Remember, it's not personal, it's business.
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
Thanks spencer, I think I can do this once (or twice) especially for emergency interview(s). :)
– jpr
Aug 18 '14 at 0:52
2
Personally, I'd strongly recommend against lying to your employer under almost any circumstances. Imagine the conversation if they found out: "Dear OldEmployer, could you provide us a reference for jpr? Thanks, NewEmployer." "Dear NewEmployer, Sure. jpr didn't like some of our policies, but rather than discussing the situation with us, he lied to us. Thanks, OldEmployer". "Dear jpr, As a result of the references we received, we have decided not to offer you a position at this time. Thanks, NewEmployer".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 18 '14 at 7:43
3
@PhilipKendall "almost any circumstances" sounds like a lot. Some draconian employers, like perhaps this one, purposefully have strict rules about taking time off to discourage looking for new jobs. If NewEmployer isn't able to understand this, I suggest finding MoreUnderstandingEmployerOfTheKindWhichExistsInAbundance.
– Chan-Ho Suh
Sep 9 '15 at 1:50
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
9
down vote
up vote
9
down vote
Were I in your situation, given the arbitrary and as mentioned above draconian rules you're subject to, I'd simply lie to my current employer.
What would happen if you called in and said "I'm having a personal emergency. It's not sick, it's a family emergency, etc, etc." Or what if you had a logistical issue like car trouble or a plumbing emergency? You can just go ahead and tell your employer that is happening.
Also consider the worst case scenario. Would your current employer terminate you for taking an emergency personal day? It's possible, but not likely. And if so, you're already in the process of finding a new gig, so no REAL harm there.
They're being ridiculous about scheduling, you're in the right (I'd say morally obligated) to be ridiculous back.
I mean, in my experience interviewing people, we wouldn't wait 1 month from first contact to interview. That just isn't an option for the companies I've worked for.
And don't think for 1 second your current company would give you 1 month notice if they were going to fire you. Remember, it's not personal, it's business.
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
Were I in your situation, given the arbitrary and as mentioned above draconian rules you're subject to, I'd simply lie to my current employer.
What would happen if you called in and said "I'm having a personal emergency. It's not sick, it's a family emergency, etc, etc." Or what if you had a logistical issue like car trouble or a plumbing emergency? You can just go ahead and tell your employer that is happening.
Also consider the worst case scenario. Would your current employer terminate you for taking an emergency personal day? It's possible, but not likely. And if so, you're already in the process of finding a new gig, so no REAL harm there.
They're being ridiculous about scheduling, you're in the right (I'd say morally obligated) to be ridiculous back.
I mean, in my experience interviewing people, we wouldn't wait 1 month from first contact to interview. That just isn't an option for the companies I've worked for.
And don't think for 1 second your current company would give you 1 month notice if they were going to fire you. Remember, it's not personal, it's business.
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
answered Aug 16 '14 at 5:50
spencerl
1011
1011
Thanks spencer, I think I can do this once (or twice) especially for emergency interview(s). :)
– jpr
Aug 18 '14 at 0:52
2
Personally, I'd strongly recommend against lying to your employer under almost any circumstances. Imagine the conversation if they found out: "Dear OldEmployer, could you provide us a reference for jpr? Thanks, NewEmployer." "Dear NewEmployer, Sure. jpr didn't like some of our policies, but rather than discussing the situation with us, he lied to us. Thanks, OldEmployer". "Dear jpr, As a result of the references we received, we have decided not to offer you a position at this time. Thanks, NewEmployer".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 18 '14 at 7:43
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@PhilipKendall "almost any circumstances" sounds like a lot. Some draconian employers, like perhaps this one, purposefully have strict rules about taking time off to discourage looking for new jobs. If NewEmployer isn't able to understand this, I suggest finding MoreUnderstandingEmployerOfTheKindWhichExistsInAbundance.
– Chan-Ho Suh
Sep 9 '15 at 1:50
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Thanks spencer, I think I can do this once (or twice) especially for emergency interview(s). :)
– jpr
Aug 18 '14 at 0:52
2
Personally, I'd strongly recommend against lying to your employer under almost any circumstances. Imagine the conversation if they found out: "Dear OldEmployer, could you provide us a reference for jpr? Thanks, NewEmployer." "Dear NewEmployer, Sure. jpr didn't like some of our policies, but rather than discussing the situation with us, he lied to us. Thanks, OldEmployer". "Dear jpr, As a result of the references we received, we have decided not to offer you a position at this time. Thanks, NewEmployer".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 18 '14 at 7:43
3
@PhilipKendall "almost any circumstances" sounds like a lot. Some draconian employers, like perhaps this one, purposefully have strict rules about taking time off to discourage looking for new jobs. If NewEmployer isn't able to understand this, I suggest finding MoreUnderstandingEmployerOfTheKindWhichExistsInAbundance.
– Chan-Ho Suh
Sep 9 '15 at 1:50
Thanks spencer, I think I can do this once (or twice) especially for emergency interview(s). :)
– jpr
Aug 18 '14 at 0:52
Thanks spencer, I think I can do this once (or twice) especially for emergency interview(s). :)
– jpr
Aug 18 '14 at 0:52
2
2
Personally, I'd strongly recommend against lying to your employer under almost any circumstances. Imagine the conversation if they found out: "Dear OldEmployer, could you provide us a reference for jpr? Thanks, NewEmployer." "Dear NewEmployer, Sure. jpr didn't like some of our policies, but rather than discussing the situation with us, he lied to us. Thanks, OldEmployer". "Dear jpr, As a result of the references we received, we have decided not to offer you a position at this time. Thanks, NewEmployer".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 18 '14 at 7:43
Personally, I'd strongly recommend against lying to your employer under almost any circumstances. Imagine the conversation if they found out: "Dear OldEmployer, could you provide us a reference for jpr? Thanks, NewEmployer." "Dear NewEmployer, Sure. jpr didn't like some of our policies, but rather than discussing the situation with us, he lied to us. Thanks, OldEmployer". "Dear jpr, As a result of the references we received, we have decided not to offer you a position at this time. Thanks, NewEmployer".
– Philip Kendall
Aug 18 '14 at 7:43
3
3
@PhilipKendall "almost any circumstances" sounds like a lot. Some draconian employers, like perhaps this one, purposefully have strict rules about taking time off to discourage looking for new jobs. If NewEmployer isn't able to understand this, I suggest finding MoreUnderstandingEmployerOfTheKindWhichExistsInAbundance.
– Chan-Ho Suh
Sep 9 '15 at 1:50
@PhilipKendall "almost any circumstances" sounds like a lot. Some draconian employers, like perhaps this one, purposefully have strict rules about taking time off to discourage looking for new jobs. If NewEmployer isn't able to understand this, I suggest finding MoreUnderstandingEmployerOfTheKindWhichExistsInAbundance.
– Chan-Ho Suh
Sep 9 '15 at 1:50
suggest improvements |Â
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possible duplicate of Is it considered acceptable to take vacation time for job searching?
– gnat
Aug 15 '14 at 6:03
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Can't you just take unpaid leave? Even a full day is not much of a hit on your salary in the big picture.
– Juha Untinen
Aug 15 '14 at 8:01
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@Juha, I can take unpaid leave but they will interrogate after returning to work. They will also classify that as "Job Abandonment".
– jpr
Aug 15 '14 at 8:08
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Isn't the discussion here in the comments (as well as the 'possible duplicate' one) irrelevant? -> "Vacation Leaves should file one month before the vacation date" is a much more important bottleneck. jpr has very little chance if he can only make interview appointments that are +1 month in the future.
– Jan Doggen
Aug 15 '14 at 19:07
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Well I guess you know one of the questions to ask in your upcoming job interview(s). Don't ever work for a company as draconian as the one you are currently at.
– Dunk
Aug 15 '14 at 21:38