Chit chat with one coworker but not the other

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In a room of software developers, another dev and myself sometimes chitchat if we find something interesting. With no explicit declaration, we limit the talk to just a few seconds and only if it is really interesting and insightful.



Recently another dev moved into the room and he chit chats way too much. He doesn't share our high standards of importance, and doesn't know when to stop. I don't want him to be a part of our chit-chat routine because he is ruining it Eternal September style. I know that I could just stop chit-chatting with the original coworker, but we both gain insight and learn from our exchanges. I don't want to lose that.



I tried using Instant Messaging for the chit-chat as opposed to speech, but it is too cumbersome, slow, and disruptive: we can't just start and be done in a few seconds. The half-duplex nature kills it.



How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?



EDIT: To be clear, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.







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    In a room of software developers, another dev and myself sometimes chitchat if we find something interesting. With no explicit declaration, we limit the talk to just a few seconds and only if it is really interesting and insightful.



    Recently another dev moved into the room and he chit chats way too much. He doesn't share our high standards of importance, and doesn't know when to stop. I don't want him to be a part of our chit-chat routine because he is ruining it Eternal September style. I know that I could just stop chit-chatting with the original coworker, but we both gain insight and learn from our exchanges. I don't want to lose that.



    I tried using Instant Messaging for the chit-chat as opposed to speech, but it is too cumbersome, slow, and disruptive: we can't just start and be done in a few seconds. The half-duplex nature kills it.



    How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?



    EDIT: To be clear, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.







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      In a room of software developers, another dev and myself sometimes chitchat if we find something interesting. With no explicit declaration, we limit the talk to just a few seconds and only if it is really interesting and insightful.



      Recently another dev moved into the room and he chit chats way too much. He doesn't share our high standards of importance, and doesn't know when to stop. I don't want him to be a part of our chit-chat routine because he is ruining it Eternal September style. I know that I could just stop chit-chatting with the original coworker, but we both gain insight and learn from our exchanges. I don't want to lose that.



      I tried using Instant Messaging for the chit-chat as opposed to speech, but it is too cumbersome, slow, and disruptive: we can't just start and be done in a few seconds. The half-duplex nature kills it.



      How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?



      EDIT: To be clear, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.







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      In a room of software developers, another dev and myself sometimes chitchat if we find something interesting. With no explicit declaration, we limit the talk to just a few seconds and only if it is really interesting and insightful.



      Recently another dev moved into the room and he chit chats way too much. He doesn't share our high standards of importance, and doesn't know when to stop. I don't want him to be a part of our chit-chat routine because he is ruining it Eternal September style. I know that I could just stop chit-chatting with the original coworker, but we both gain insight and learn from our exchanges. I don't want to lose that.



      I tried using Instant Messaging for the chit-chat as opposed to speech, but it is too cumbersome, slow, and disruptive: we can't just start and be done in a few seconds. The half-duplex nature kills it.



      How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?



      EDIT: To be clear, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.









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          Wow, what a depressing question.



          To work well you need to work as a team, this requires collaboration. Good collaboration needs people who know and understand each other, part of that is getting to know someone as a person.



          Now I'm not advocating that you should be spending your weekends together playing football and having a curry, but a bit of idle chat is good for both your relationships, and for your ability to interact with others (you need to talk to the business to understand your tasks, yes?)




          How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?




          You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary, so don't lie to yourself, just tell him. Any reasonable person will ask to be moved to work with some real people.






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          • You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary - Truth.
            – Joel Etherton
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:09






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            Actually, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.
            – dotancohen
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:49











          • @dotancohen - You should really add that to the question. Because just reading the question I agree with Mark's answer here.
            – IDrinkandIKnowThings
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          Wow, what a depressing question.



          To work well you need to work as a team, this requires collaboration. Good collaboration needs people who know and understand each other, part of that is getting to know someone as a person.



          Now I'm not advocating that you should be spending your weekends together playing football and having a curry, but a bit of idle chat is good for both your relationships, and for your ability to interact with others (you need to talk to the business to understand your tasks, yes?)




          How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?




          You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary, so don't lie to yourself, just tell him. Any reasonable person will ask to be moved to work with some real people.






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          • You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary - Truth.
            – Joel Etherton
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:09






          • 2




            Actually, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.
            – dotancohen
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:49











          • @dotancohen - You should really add that to the question. Because just reading the question I agree with Mark's answer here.
            – IDrinkandIKnowThings
            Jun 19 '14 at 13:38














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          Wow, what a depressing question.



          To work well you need to work as a team, this requires collaboration. Good collaboration needs people who know and understand each other, part of that is getting to know someone as a person.



          Now I'm not advocating that you should be spending your weekends together playing football and having a curry, but a bit of idle chat is good for both your relationships, and for your ability to interact with others (you need to talk to the business to understand your tasks, yes?)




          How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?




          You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary, so don't lie to yourself, just tell him. Any reasonable person will ask to be moved to work with some real people.






          share|improve this answer




















          • You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary - Truth.
            – Joel Etherton
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:09






          • 2




            Actually, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.
            – dotancohen
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:49











          • @dotancohen - You should really add that to the question. Because just reading the question I agree with Mark's answer here.
            – IDrinkandIKnowThings
            Jun 19 '14 at 13:38












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          up vote
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          Wow, what a depressing question.



          To work well you need to work as a team, this requires collaboration. Good collaboration needs people who know and understand each other, part of that is getting to know someone as a person.



          Now I'm not advocating that you should be spending your weekends together playing football and having a curry, but a bit of idle chat is good for both your relationships, and for your ability to interact with others (you need to talk to the business to understand your tasks, yes?)




          How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?




          You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary, so don't lie to yourself, just tell him. Any reasonable person will ask to be moved to work with some real people.






          share|improve this answer












          Wow, what a depressing question.



          To work well you need to work as a team, this requires collaboration. Good collaboration needs people who know and understand each other, part of that is getting to know someone as a person.



          Now I'm not advocating that you should be spending your weekends together playing football and having a curry, but a bit of idle chat is good for both your relationships, and for your ability to interact with others (you need to talk to the business to understand your tasks, yes?)




          How can I tell one coworker in the same room that we respect him and accept him and we are friends with him, but when we're coding don't bother us even if it appears that we are bothering each other?




          You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary, so don't lie to yourself, just tell him. Any reasonable person will ask to be moved to work with some real people.







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          answered Jun 19 '14 at 11:46









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          • You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary - Truth.
            – Joel Etherton
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:09






          • 2




            Actually, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.
            – dotancohen
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:49











          • @dotancohen - You should really add that to the question. Because just reading the question I agree with Mark's answer here.
            – IDrinkandIKnowThings
            Jun 19 '14 at 13:38
















          • You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary - Truth.
            – Joel Etherton
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:09






          • 2




            Actually, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.
            – dotancohen
            Jun 19 '14 at 12:49











          • @dotancohen - You should really add that to the question. Because just reading the question I agree with Mark's answer here.
            – IDrinkandIKnowThings
            Jun 19 '14 at 13:38















          You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary - Truth.
          – Joel Etherton
          Jun 19 '14 at 12:09




          You don't respect him or accept him, you aren't friends with him, you don't want to interact with him unless necessary - Truth.
          – Joel Etherton
          Jun 19 '14 at 12:09




          2




          2




          Actually, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.
          – dotancohen
          Jun 19 '14 at 12:49





          Actually, I really do like the guy. It's just that he does not know when to stop talking, and his "wow, this is interesting" threshold is two orders of magnitude below ours'. I don't think that every /. story warrants a discussion, but heartbleed does. When we're not working, such as eating, then I really do take an interest in what he has to say. That doesn't mean that I need to let him interrupt my work several times per day, even if I allow someone else that privilege.
          – dotancohen
          Jun 19 '14 at 12:49













          @dotancohen - You should really add that to the question. Because just reading the question I agree with Mark's answer here.
          – IDrinkandIKnowThings
          Jun 19 '14 at 13:38




          @dotancohen - You should really add that to the question. Because just reading the question I agree with Mark's answer here.
          – IDrinkandIKnowThings
          Jun 19 '14 at 13:38












           

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