How is authorship evaluated in this case?

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Early this year I've started writing my first an article with an ex professor of mine. The article is almost done, but until now he haven´t write a single sentence or provide any data, it has been all my work. We have meet about 10 times for 90 minutes to discuss the progress of the article, and I have to recognize that during this meetings some of my ideas have been shaped by his advices, specially reagarding the research question. I know he has spent his time in this work, but I don´t think that quialifies as authorship on the article, and I´m not sure what to do about this. I appreciate any advice you can give me on how to act on this issue.










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    Possible duplicate of What are the minimum contributions required for co-authorship
    – gman
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  • What did he say when you asked him. He knows more about authorship than you.
    – Azor Ahai
    2 hours ago






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    You can check what's the common practice among your peers. In my experience what you describe is fairly common in my field. If you feel that's not a fair collaboration, just evade this person next time.
    – Scientist
    2 hours ago






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    Your specific field can influence what is typical for authorship.
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Early this year I've started writing my first an article with an ex professor of mine. The article is almost done, but until now he haven´t write a single sentence or provide any data, it has been all my work. We have meet about 10 times for 90 minutes to discuss the progress of the article, and I have to recognize that during this meetings some of my ideas have been shaped by his advices, specially reagarding the research question. I know he has spent his time in this work, but I don´t think that quialifies as authorship on the article, and I´m not sure what to do about this. I appreciate any advice you can give me on how to act on this issue.










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    Possible duplicate of What are the minimum contributions required for co-authorship
    – gman
    3 hours ago










  • What did he say when you asked him. He knows more about authorship than you.
    – Azor Ahai
    2 hours ago






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    You can check what's the common practice among your peers. In my experience what you describe is fairly common in my field. If you feel that's not a fair collaboration, just evade this person next time.
    – Scientist
    2 hours ago






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    Your specific field can influence what is typical for authorship.
    – Bryan Krause
    1 hour ago












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Early this year I've started writing my first an article with an ex professor of mine. The article is almost done, but until now he haven´t write a single sentence or provide any data, it has been all my work. We have meet about 10 times for 90 minutes to discuss the progress of the article, and I have to recognize that during this meetings some of my ideas have been shaped by his advices, specially reagarding the research question. I know he has spent his time in this work, but I don´t think that quialifies as authorship on the article, and I´m not sure what to do about this. I appreciate any advice you can give me on how to act on this issue.










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Early this year I've started writing my first an article with an ex professor of mine. The article is almost done, but until now he haven´t write a single sentence or provide any data, it has been all my work. We have meet about 10 times for 90 minutes to discuss the progress of the article, and I have to recognize that during this meetings some of my ideas have been shaped by his advices, specially reagarding the research question. I know he has spent his time in this work, but I don´t think that quialifies as authorship on the article, and I´m not sure what to do about this. I appreciate any advice you can give me on how to act on this issue.







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    Possible duplicate of What are the minimum contributions required for co-authorship
    – gman
    3 hours ago










  • What did he say when you asked him. He knows more about authorship than you.
    – Azor Ahai
    2 hours ago






  • 1




    You can check what's the common practice among your peers. In my experience what you describe is fairly common in my field. If you feel that's not a fair collaboration, just evade this person next time.
    – Scientist
    2 hours ago






  • 1




    Your specific field can influence what is typical for authorship.
    – Bryan Krause
    1 hour ago












  • 1




    Possible duplicate of What are the minimum contributions required for co-authorship
    – gman
    3 hours ago










  • What did he say when you asked him. He knows more about authorship than you.
    – Azor Ahai
    2 hours ago






  • 1




    You can check what's the common practice among your peers. In my experience what you describe is fairly common in my field. If you feel that's not a fair collaboration, just evade this person next time.
    – Scientist
    2 hours ago






  • 1




    Your specific field can influence what is typical for authorship.
    – Bryan Krause
    1 hour ago







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Possible duplicate of What are the minimum contributions required for co-authorship
– gman
3 hours ago




Possible duplicate of What are the minimum contributions required for co-authorship
– gman
3 hours ago












What did he say when you asked him. He knows more about authorship than you.
– Azor Ahai
2 hours ago




What did he say when you asked him. He knows more about authorship than you.
– Azor Ahai
2 hours ago




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You can check what's the common practice among your peers. In my experience what you describe is fairly common in my field. If you feel that's not a fair collaboration, just evade this person next time.
– Scientist
2 hours ago




You can check what's the common practice among your peers. In my experience what you describe is fairly common in my field. If you feel that's not a fair collaboration, just evade this person next time.
– Scientist
2 hours ago




1




1




Your specific field can influence what is typical for authorship.
– Bryan Krause
1 hour ago




Your specific field can influence what is typical for authorship.
– Bryan Krause
1 hour ago










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The content of those meetings is largely going to be the answer to your question, and we can't really know the content of those meetings. There's a case to be made that those discussions helped form things, and he doesn't sound otherwise problematic, so I think it's likely worth just making him an author and moving on.






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    Indeed. In 10 90-minute meetings likely a lot got discussed that ended up in the paper. Not to mention whatever else happened before work on the paper ever started. At worst the professor will decline to be an author.
    – Jon Custer
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Actually, you should ask him what are his expectations and follow his advice. Certainly he has contributed, probably substantially, to the work. The writing isn't everything. The ideas that it embodies are.



If he wants to be your co-author, do that. You didn't say anything in your question about his expectations. But also, think of the future. If his continued guidance is helpful to you then you should be happy to co-author papers with him. But if you can carry on alone, you can do that too.






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    The content of those meetings is largely going to be the answer to your question, and we can't really know the content of those meetings. There's a case to be made that those discussions helped form things, and he doesn't sound otherwise problematic, so I think it's likely worth just making him an author and moving on.






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      Indeed. In 10 90-minute meetings likely a lot got discussed that ended up in the paper. Not to mention whatever else happened before work on the paper ever started. At worst the professor will decline to be an author.
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    The content of those meetings is largely going to be the answer to your question, and we can't really know the content of those meetings. There's a case to be made that those discussions helped form things, and he doesn't sound otherwise problematic, so I think it's likely worth just making him an author and moving on.






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      Indeed. In 10 90-minute meetings likely a lot got discussed that ended up in the paper. Not to mention whatever else happened before work on the paper ever started. At worst the professor will decline to be an author.
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    The content of those meetings is largely going to be the answer to your question, and we can't really know the content of those meetings. There's a case to be made that those discussions helped form things, and he doesn't sound otherwise problematic, so I think it's likely worth just making him an author and moving on.






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    The content of those meetings is largely going to be the answer to your question, and we can't really know the content of those meetings. There's a case to be made that those discussions helped form things, and he doesn't sound otherwise problematic, so I think it's likely worth just making him an author and moving on.







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      Indeed. In 10 90-minute meetings likely a lot got discussed that ended up in the paper. Not to mention whatever else happened before work on the paper ever started. At worst the professor will decline to be an author.
      – Jon Custer
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      Indeed. In 10 90-minute meetings likely a lot got discussed that ended up in the paper. Not to mention whatever else happened before work on the paper ever started. At worst the professor will decline to be an author.
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    Indeed. In 10 90-minute meetings likely a lot got discussed that ended up in the paper. Not to mention whatever else happened before work on the paper ever started. At worst the professor will decline to be an author.
    – Jon Custer
    3 hours ago




    Indeed. In 10 90-minute meetings likely a lot got discussed that ended up in the paper. Not to mention whatever else happened before work on the paper ever started. At worst the professor will decline to be an author.
    – Jon Custer
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    Actually, you should ask him what are his expectations and follow his advice. Certainly he has contributed, probably substantially, to the work. The writing isn't everything. The ideas that it embodies are.



    If he wants to be your co-author, do that. You didn't say anything in your question about his expectations. But also, think of the future. If his continued guidance is helpful to you then you should be happy to co-author papers with him. But if you can carry on alone, you can do that too.






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      Actually, you should ask him what are his expectations and follow his advice. Certainly he has contributed, probably substantially, to the work. The writing isn't everything. The ideas that it embodies are.



      If he wants to be your co-author, do that. You didn't say anything in your question about his expectations. But also, think of the future. If his continued guidance is helpful to you then you should be happy to co-author papers with him. But if you can carry on alone, you can do that too.






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        Actually, you should ask him what are his expectations and follow his advice. Certainly he has contributed, probably substantially, to the work. The writing isn't everything. The ideas that it embodies are.



        If he wants to be your co-author, do that. You didn't say anything in your question about his expectations. But also, think of the future. If his continued guidance is helpful to you then you should be happy to co-author papers with him. But if you can carry on alone, you can do that too.






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        Actually, you should ask him what are his expectations and follow his advice. Certainly he has contributed, probably substantially, to the work. The writing isn't everything. The ideas that it embodies are.



        If he wants to be your co-author, do that. You didn't say anything in your question about his expectations. But also, think of the future. If his continued guidance is helpful to you then you should be happy to co-author papers with him. But if you can carry on alone, you can do that too.







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