Using wish to teleport without rolling on the mishap table

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A wizard in my group wants to use wish to cast teleport without rolling against the mishap table so it'll just take him and his group straight there. His reasoning is that wish states:




You don’t need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.




He has never been to, seen or knows the location of the place he is trying to teleport to. He only knows its name and that it exists.



My stance is that if he wants to use wish to cast teleport, a roll against the table would have to take place.



I was hoping to ask the more knowledgeable people here to settle our discussion.







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    A wizard in my group wants to use wish to cast teleport without rolling against the mishap table so it'll just take him and his group straight there. His reasoning is that wish states:




    You don’t need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.




    He has never been to, seen or knows the location of the place he is trying to teleport to. He only knows its name and that it exists.



    My stance is that if he wants to use wish to cast teleport, a roll against the table would have to take place.



    I was hoping to ask the more knowledgeable people here to settle our discussion.







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      A wizard in my group wants to use wish to cast teleport without rolling against the mishap table so it'll just take him and his group straight there. His reasoning is that wish states:




      You don’t need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.




      He has never been to, seen or knows the location of the place he is trying to teleport to. He only knows its name and that it exists.



      My stance is that if he wants to use wish to cast teleport, a roll against the table would have to take place.



      I was hoping to ask the more knowledgeable people here to settle our discussion.







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      A wizard in my group wants to use wish to cast teleport without rolling against the mishap table so it'll just take him and his group straight there. His reasoning is that wish states:




      You don’t need to meet any requirements in that spell, including costly components. The spell simply takes effect.




      He has never been to, seen or knows the location of the place he is trying to teleport to. He only knows its name and that it exists.



      My stance is that if he wants to use wish to cast teleport, a roll against the table would have to take place.



      I was hoping to ask the more knowledgeable people here to settle our discussion.









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          Pick your poison.



          He could use wish either to duplicate the teleport spell, incurring all its mechanics (including the failure chance).



          Or he could use wish to create the more powerful effect of “like teleport but without any mishap chance”, which instead incurs the stresses of pushing a wish spell that hard.






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          • This is my belief too. I wonder if this is the general consensus.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 17:47






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            @Jinzuku a consensus with your DM is all that matters
            – enkryptor
            Sep 1 at 18:33










          • In this instance, I'm the DM. My friend and I can't come to a consensus, which is why I asked here to provide the tie-breaker.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 18:52










          • @Jinzuku It sounds like you’ve already given him this choice, and that he responded with something other than taking one of the options. Is this accurate?
            – sevenbrokenbricks
            Sep 1 at 20:24











          • Kind of. I presented the 2 options above and he responded with a third option which I explained in the original post. We couldn't come to an agreement. I did see his point of view though so I didn't shoot it down. We are both fairly new to D&D as a whole so thought it would be best to seek counsel from the more experienced.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 20:39










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          up vote
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          accepted










          Pick your poison.



          He could use wish either to duplicate the teleport spell, incurring all its mechanics (including the failure chance).



          Or he could use wish to create the more powerful effect of “like teleport but without any mishap chance”, which instead incurs the stresses of pushing a wish spell that hard.






          share|improve this answer




















          • This is my belief too. I wonder if this is the general consensus.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 17:47






          • 5




            @Jinzuku a consensus with your DM is all that matters
            – enkryptor
            Sep 1 at 18:33










          • In this instance, I'm the DM. My friend and I can't come to a consensus, which is why I asked here to provide the tie-breaker.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 18:52










          • @Jinzuku It sounds like you’ve already given him this choice, and that he responded with something other than taking one of the options. Is this accurate?
            – sevenbrokenbricks
            Sep 1 at 20:24











          • Kind of. I presented the 2 options above and he responded with a third option which I explained in the original post. We couldn't come to an agreement. I did see his point of view though so I didn't shoot it down. We are both fairly new to D&D as a whole so thought it would be best to seek counsel from the more experienced.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 20:39














          up vote
          26
          down vote



          accepted










          Pick your poison.



          He could use wish either to duplicate the teleport spell, incurring all its mechanics (including the failure chance).



          Or he could use wish to create the more powerful effect of “like teleport but without any mishap chance”, which instead incurs the stresses of pushing a wish spell that hard.






          share|improve this answer




















          • This is my belief too. I wonder if this is the general consensus.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 17:47






          • 5




            @Jinzuku a consensus with your DM is all that matters
            – enkryptor
            Sep 1 at 18:33










          • In this instance, I'm the DM. My friend and I can't come to a consensus, which is why I asked here to provide the tie-breaker.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 18:52










          • @Jinzuku It sounds like you’ve already given him this choice, and that he responded with something other than taking one of the options. Is this accurate?
            – sevenbrokenbricks
            Sep 1 at 20:24











          • Kind of. I presented the 2 options above and he responded with a third option which I explained in the original post. We couldn't come to an agreement. I did see his point of view though so I didn't shoot it down. We are both fairly new to D&D as a whole so thought it would be best to seek counsel from the more experienced.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 20:39












          up vote
          26
          down vote



          accepted







          up vote
          26
          down vote



          accepted






          Pick your poison.



          He could use wish either to duplicate the teleport spell, incurring all its mechanics (including the failure chance).



          Or he could use wish to create the more powerful effect of “like teleport but without any mishap chance”, which instead incurs the stresses of pushing a wish spell that hard.






          share|improve this answer












          Pick your poison.



          He could use wish either to duplicate the teleport spell, incurring all its mechanics (including the failure chance).



          Or he could use wish to create the more powerful effect of “like teleport but without any mishap chance”, which instead incurs the stresses of pushing a wish spell that hard.







          share|improve this answer












          share|improve this answer



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          answered Sep 1 at 17:45









          sevenbrokenbricks

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          • This is my belief too. I wonder if this is the general consensus.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 17:47






          • 5




            @Jinzuku a consensus with your DM is all that matters
            – enkryptor
            Sep 1 at 18:33










          • In this instance, I'm the DM. My friend and I can't come to a consensus, which is why I asked here to provide the tie-breaker.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 18:52










          • @Jinzuku It sounds like you’ve already given him this choice, and that he responded with something other than taking one of the options. Is this accurate?
            – sevenbrokenbricks
            Sep 1 at 20:24











          • Kind of. I presented the 2 options above and he responded with a third option which I explained in the original post. We couldn't come to an agreement. I did see his point of view though so I didn't shoot it down. We are both fairly new to D&D as a whole so thought it would be best to seek counsel from the more experienced.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 20:39
















          • This is my belief too. I wonder if this is the general consensus.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 17:47






          • 5




            @Jinzuku a consensus with your DM is all that matters
            – enkryptor
            Sep 1 at 18:33










          • In this instance, I'm the DM. My friend and I can't come to a consensus, which is why I asked here to provide the tie-breaker.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 18:52










          • @Jinzuku It sounds like you’ve already given him this choice, and that he responded with something other than taking one of the options. Is this accurate?
            – sevenbrokenbricks
            Sep 1 at 20:24











          • Kind of. I presented the 2 options above and he responded with a third option which I explained in the original post. We couldn't come to an agreement. I did see his point of view though so I didn't shoot it down. We are both fairly new to D&D as a whole so thought it would be best to seek counsel from the more experienced.
            – Jinzuku
            Sep 1 at 20:39















          This is my belief too. I wonder if this is the general consensus.
          – Jinzuku
          Sep 1 at 17:47




          This is my belief too. I wonder if this is the general consensus.
          – Jinzuku
          Sep 1 at 17:47




          5




          5




          @Jinzuku a consensus with your DM is all that matters
          – enkryptor
          Sep 1 at 18:33




          @Jinzuku a consensus with your DM is all that matters
          – enkryptor
          Sep 1 at 18:33












          In this instance, I'm the DM. My friend and I can't come to a consensus, which is why I asked here to provide the tie-breaker.
          – Jinzuku
          Sep 1 at 18:52




          In this instance, I'm the DM. My friend and I can't come to a consensus, which is why I asked here to provide the tie-breaker.
          – Jinzuku
          Sep 1 at 18:52












          @Jinzuku It sounds like you’ve already given him this choice, and that he responded with something other than taking one of the options. Is this accurate?
          – sevenbrokenbricks
          Sep 1 at 20:24





          @Jinzuku It sounds like you’ve already given him this choice, and that he responded with something other than taking one of the options. Is this accurate?
          – sevenbrokenbricks
          Sep 1 at 20:24













          Kind of. I presented the 2 options above and he responded with a third option which I explained in the original post. We couldn't come to an agreement. I did see his point of view though so I didn't shoot it down. We are both fairly new to D&D as a whole so thought it would be best to seek counsel from the more experienced.
          – Jinzuku
          Sep 1 at 20:39




          Kind of. I presented the 2 options above and he responded with a third option which I explained in the original post. We couldn't come to an agreement. I did see his point of view though so I didn't shoot it down. We are both fairly new to D&D as a whole so thought it would be best to seek counsel from the more experienced.
          – Jinzuku
          Sep 1 at 20:39

















           

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