Closed form for $t_n = 6t_n-1-9t_n-2$ where $t_0 = 5$ and $t_1 = 9$

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Consider the sequence defined by
$$
begincases
t_0=5\
t_1=9\
t_n=6t_n-1-9t_n-2 & textif nge 2
endcases
.$$
Find a closed form for $t_n$.



Your response should be a formula in terms of $n$, and should not contain terms such as $t_n,$ $t_n-1,$ and so on. Do not include $``t_n=text''$ in your response.




I tried forming a sequence by taking some values for $n$ and finding $t_n$. Once that was done, I moved on to find some pattern between $n$ and $t_n$ but couldn't find any. Here's the sequence:



$$beginarray
n & 0 & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \
hline
t_n & 5 & 9 & 9 & -27 & -243
endarray$$



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  • If you like, see Difference equation.
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  • More seriously, have you studied any methods of solving such recurrences besides looking at first-order differences and trying to find a pattern?
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Consider the sequence defined by
$$
begincases
t_0=5\
t_1=9\
t_n=6t_n-1-9t_n-2 & textif nge 2
endcases
.$$
Find a closed form for $t_n$.



Your response should be a formula in terms of $n$, and should not contain terms such as $t_n,$ $t_n-1,$ and so on. Do not include $``t_n=text''$ in your response.




I tried forming a sequence by taking some values for $n$ and finding $t_n$. Once that was done, I moved on to find some pattern between $n$ and $t_n$ but couldn't find any. Here's the sequence:



$$beginarray
n & 0 & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \
hline
t_n & 5 & 9 & 9 & -27 & -243
endarray$$



What am I suppose to do?







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  • If you like, see Difference equation.
    – xbh
    Sep 2 at 8:34






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    Study the course material?
    – amd
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  • More seriously, have you studied any methods of solving such recurrences besides looking at first-order differences and trying to find a pattern?
    – amd
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Consider the sequence defined by
$$
begincases
t_0=5\
t_1=9\
t_n=6t_n-1-9t_n-2 & textif nge 2
endcases
.$$
Find a closed form for $t_n$.



Your response should be a formula in terms of $n$, and should not contain terms such as $t_n,$ $t_n-1,$ and so on. Do not include $``t_n=text''$ in your response.




I tried forming a sequence by taking some values for $n$ and finding $t_n$. Once that was done, I moved on to find some pattern between $n$ and $t_n$ but couldn't find any. Here's the sequence:



$$beginarray
n & 0 & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \
hline
t_n & 5 & 9 & 9 & -27 & -243
endarray$$



What am I suppose to do?







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Consider the sequence defined by
$$
begincases
t_0=5\
t_1=9\
t_n=6t_n-1-9t_n-2 & textif nge 2
endcases
.$$
Find a closed form for $t_n$.



Your response should be a formula in terms of $n$, and should not contain terms such as $t_n,$ $t_n-1,$ and so on. Do not include $``t_n=text''$ in your response.




I tried forming a sequence by taking some values for $n$ and finding $t_n$. Once that was done, I moved on to find some pattern between $n$ and $t_n$ but couldn't find any. Here's the sequence:



$$beginarray
n & 0 & 1 & 2 & 3 & 4 \
hline
t_n & 5 & 9 & 9 & -27 & -243
endarray$$



What am I suppose to do?









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  • If you like, see Difference equation.
    – xbh
    Sep 2 at 8:34






  • 4




    Study the course material?
    – amd
    Sep 2 at 8:34










  • More seriously, have you studied any methods of solving such recurrences besides looking at first-order differences and trying to find a pattern?
    – amd
    Sep 2 at 8:44
















  • If you like, see Difference equation.
    – xbh
    Sep 2 at 8:34






  • 4




    Study the course material?
    – amd
    Sep 2 at 8:34










  • More seriously, have you studied any methods of solving such recurrences besides looking at first-order differences and trying to find a pattern?
    – amd
    Sep 2 at 8:44















If you like, see Difference equation.
– xbh
Sep 2 at 8:34




If you like, see Difference equation.
– xbh
Sep 2 at 8:34




4




4




Study the course material?
– amd
Sep 2 at 8:34




Study the course material?
– amd
Sep 2 at 8:34












More seriously, have you studied any methods of solving such recurrences besides looking at first-order differences and trying to find a pattern?
– amd
Sep 2 at 8:44




More seriously, have you studied any methods of solving such recurrences besides looking at first-order differences and trying to find a pattern?
– amd
Sep 2 at 8:44










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Note that the characteristic polynomial of your homogeneous linear recurrence is $z^2-6z+9=(z-3)^2$. Therefore the solution has the form
$$t_n=(An+B)3^n$$
where $A$ and $B$ are constants to be found.






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    Another widely used approach is using generating functions, i.e.
    $$f(x)=sumlimits_n=0colorredt_nx^n=
    5+9x+sumlimits_n=2t_nx^n=
    5+9x+sumlimits_n=2left(6t_n-1-9t_n-2right)x^n=\
    5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=2t_n-1x^n-1right)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=2t_n-2x^n-2right)=\
    5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=1t_nx^nright)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=0t_nx^nright)=
    5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x)$$
    or
    $$f(x)=5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x) iff \
    f(x)=frac5-21x1-6x+9x^2=
    frac5-21x(1-3x)^2=
    frac71-3x-frac2(1-3x)^2=\
    7left(sumlimits_n=03^nx^nright)-2left(sumlimits_n=0(n+1)3^nx^nright)=\
    sumlimits_n=0colorredleft(7-2(n+1)right)3^nx^n$$
    and
    $$t_n=left(5-2nright)3^n$$






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      Hint. Make the ansatz $$t_n=q^n$$
      and for your work: the solution is given by
      $$t_n=3^n(5-2n)$$






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        Note that the characteristic polynomial of your homogeneous linear recurrence is $z^2-6z+9=(z-3)^2$. Therefore the solution has the form
        $$t_n=(An+B)3^n$$
        where $A$ and $B$ are constants to be found.






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          Note that the characteristic polynomial of your homogeneous linear recurrence is $z^2-6z+9=(z-3)^2$. Therefore the solution has the form
          $$t_n=(An+B)3^n$$
          where $A$ and $B$ are constants to be found.






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            up vote
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            Note that the characteristic polynomial of your homogeneous linear recurrence is $z^2-6z+9=(z-3)^2$. Therefore the solution has the form
            $$t_n=(An+B)3^n$$
            where $A$ and $B$ are constants to be found.






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            Note that the characteristic polynomial of your homogeneous linear recurrence is $z^2-6z+9=(z-3)^2$. Therefore the solution has the form
            $$t_n=(An+B)3^n$$
            where $A$ and $B$ are constants to be found.







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                Another widely used approach is using generating functions, i.e.
                $$f(x)=sumlimits_n=0colorredt_nx^n=
                5+9x+sumlimits_n=2t_nx^n=
                5+9x+sumlimits_n=2left(6t_n-1-9t_n-2right)x^n=\
                5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=2t_n-1x^n-1right)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=2t_n-2x^n-2right)=\
                5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=1t_nx^nright)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=0t_nx^nright)=
                5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x)$$
                or
                $$f(x)=5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x) iff \
                f(x)=frac5-21x1-6x+9x^2=
                frac5-21x(1-3x)^2=
                frac71-3x-frac2(1-3x)^2=\
                7left(sumlimits_n=03^nx^nright)-2left(sumlimits_n=0(n+1)3^nx^nright)=\
                sumlimits_n=0colorredleft(7-2(n+1)right)3^nx^n$$
                and
                $$t_n=left(5-2nright)3^n$$






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                  Another widely used approach is using generating functions, i.e.
                  $$f(x)=sumlimits_n=0colorredt_nx^n=
                  5+9x+sumlimits_n=2t_nx^n=
                  5+9x+sumlimits_n=2left(6t_n-1-9t_n-2right)x^n=\
                  5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=2t_n-1x^n-1right)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=2t_n-2x^n-2right)=\
                  5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=1t_nx^nright)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=0t_nx^nright)=
                  5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x)$$
                  or
                  $$f(x)=5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x) iff \
                  f(x)=frac5-21x1-6x+9x^2=
                  frac5-21x(1-3x)^2=
                  frac71-3x-frac2(1-3x)^2=\
                  7left(sumlimits_n=03^nx^nright)-2left(sumlimits_n=0(n+1)3^nx^nright)=\
                  sumlimits_n=0colorredleft(7-2(n+1)right)3^nx^n$$
                  and
                  $$t_n=left(5-2nright)3^n$$






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                    up vote
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                    Another widely used approach is using generating functions, i.e.
                    $$f(x)=sumlimits_n=0colorredt_nx^n=
                    5+9x+sumlimits_n=2t_nx^n=
                    5+9x+sumlimits_n=2left(6t_n-1-9t_n-2right)x^n=\
                    5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=2t_n-1x^n-1right)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=2t_n-2x^n-2right)=\
                    5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=1t_nx^nright)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=0t_nx^nright)=
                    5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x)$$
                    or
                    $$f(x)=5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x) iff \
                    f(x)=frac5-21x1-6x+9x^2=
                    frac5-21x(1-3x)^2=
                    frac71-3x-frac2(1-3x)^2=\
                    7left(sumlimits_n=03^nx^nright)-2left(sumlimits_n=0(n+1)3^nx^nright)=\
                    sumlimits_n=0colorredleft(7-2(n+1)right)3^nx^n$$
                    and
                    $$t_n=left(5-2nright)3^n$$






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                    Another widely used approach is using generating functions, i.e.
                    $$f(x)=sumlimits_n=0colorredt_nx^n=
                    5+9x+sumlimits_n=2t_nx^n=
                    5+9x+sumlimits_n=2left(6t_n-1-9t_n-2right)x^n=\
                    5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=2t_n-1x^n-1right)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=2t_n-2x^n-2right)=\
                    5+9x+6xleft(sumlimits_n=1t_nx^nright)-9x^2left(sumlimits_n=0t_nx^nright)=
                    5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x)$$
                    or
                    $$f(x)=5+9x+6xleft(f(x)-5right)-9x^2f(x) iff \
                    f(x)=frac5-21x1-6x+9x^2=
                    frac5-21x(1-3x)^2=
                    frac71-3x-frac2(1-3x)^2=\
                    7left(sumlimits_n=03^nx^nright)-2left(sumlimits_n=0(n+1)3^nx^nright)=\
                    sumlimits_n=0colorredleft(7-2(n+1)right)3^nx^n$$
                    and
                    $$t_n=left(5-2nright)3^n$$







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                        Hint. Make the ansatz $$t_n=q^n$$
                        and for your work: the solution is given by
                        $$t_n=3^n(5-2n)$$






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                          Hint. Make the ansatz $$t_n=q^n$$
                          and for your work: the solution is given by
                          $$t_n=3^n(5-2n)$$






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                            Hint. Make the ansatz $$t_n=q^n$$
                            and for your work: the solution is given by
                            $$t_n=3^n(5-2n)$$






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                            Hint. Make the ansatz $$t_n=q^n$$
                            and for your work: the solution is given by
                            $$t_n=3^n(5-2n)$$







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