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I'm one of the directors of multiple digital marketing and creative design/development agencies in the UK. This doesn't happen particularly frequently but this week, I found myself in this scenario.
We have one existing client which are a local business to us. They sell a type of product which they design and manufacturer themselves. We designed, developed and branded their responsive eCommerce website and currently host it.
Let's call them client X (x for existing).
This week, we received a referral within the SEO industry and another eCommerce business selling the same type of product but not exactly the same because client X design and make their own. This business is ready to start work with us, has a starting monthly retainer budget and wants to proceed asap.
Let's call them client N (n for new).
The only revenue we currently generate from client X is monthly hosting and perhaps the very infrequent off job here and there on their website. They do however want to start doing some marketing/SEO at some point soon (no idea when this may be though).
Client N however is ready to start working with us immediately and has a budget at the ready. If we were to begin working with client N, there would, at present, be no conflict of interest as client N would want great visibility for their products on the web whereas client X don't currently hire us for this particular service however if they were to start this up in a few weeks, then conflict of interest becomes very likely and we'd find ourselves with two clients that want to be found on the web for the same products and would essentially be competitors.
Originally, I was going to instruct our team to turn down the new enquiry explaining that we already have a client in the same niche and wouldn't be able to work with them as well but I'm now thinking why shouldn't we take them on as a new client - as it stands, our existing client don't pay us for marketing their business - but we did play a huge role in their online presence, brand and business growth.
Is it a conflict of interest to take on multiple clients in the same niche?
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I'm one of the directors of multiple digital marketing and creative design/development agencies in the UK. This doesn't happen particularly frequently but this week, I found myself in this scenario.
We have one existing client which are a local business to us. They sell a type of product which they design and manufacturer themselves. We designed, developed and branded their responsive eCommerce website and currently host it.
Let's call them client X (x for existing).
This week, we received a referral within the SEO industry and another eCommerce business selling the same type of product but not exactly the same because client X design and make their own. This business is ready to start work with us, has a starting monthly retainer budget and wants to proceed asap.
Let's call them client N (n for new).
The only revenue we currently generate from client X is monthly hosting and perhaps the very infrequent off job here and there on their website. They do however want to start doing some marketing/SEO at some point soon (no idea when this may be though).
Client N however is ready to start working with us immediately and has a budget at the ready. If we were to begin working with client N, there would, at present, be no conflict of interest as client N would want great visibility for their products on the web whereas client X don't currently hire us for this particular service however if they were to start this up in a few weeks, then conflict of interest becomes very likely and we'd find ourselves with two clients that want to be found on the web for the same products and would essentially be competitors.
Originally, I was going to instruct our team to turn down the new enquiry explaining that we already have a client in the same niche and wouldn't be able to work with them as well but I'm now thinking why shouldn't we take them on as a new client - as it stands, our existing client don't pay us for marketing their business - but we did play a huge role in their online presence, brand and business growth.
Is it a conflict of interest to take on multiple clients in the same niche?
clients
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Have you considered asking X? When I feel like there might be conflict I ask the existing client. Sometimes they say sure, sometimes they say they don't want their competition to have the amazing advantages we bring, always they're happy I asked and generally I am too.
– Kate Gregory
Jun 20 '14 at 13:12
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The first thing I did was openly advise client X that we had what would likely prove to be a competitor approach us wanting to hire us for digital marketing. They didn't really have much comment on whether they'd be happy for us to work with client N as well as them though.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 13:41
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You turn down work fromNand then next weekXquits. Now you're out two opportunities.
– user7360
Jun 20 '14 at 17:40
I edited this slightly to clarify the question at the bottom of the post. Our Q&A platform works best when the question is more specific. This is mostly for readability purposes as you're already getting good answers. Hope this helps.
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Jun 21 '14 at 19:34
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@zigojacko always good to have a stable client, but never get too comfortable.
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I'm one of the directors of multiple digital marketing and creative design/development agencies in the UK. This doesn't happen particularly frequently but this week, I found myself in this scenario.
We have one existing client which are a local business to us. They sell a type of product which they design and manufacturer themselves. We designed, developed and branded their responsive eCommerce website and currently host it.
Let's call them client X (x for existing).
This week, we received a referral within the SEO industry and another eCommerce business selling the same type of product but not exactly the same because client X design and make their own. This business is ready to start work with us, has a starting monthly retainer budget and wants to proceed asap.
Let's call them client N (n for new).
The only revenue we currently generate from client X is monthly hosting and perhaps the very infrequent off job here and there on their website. They do however want to start doing some marketing/SEO at some point soon (no idea when this may be though).
Client N however is ready to start working with us immediately and has a budget at the ready. If we were to begin working with client N, there would, at present, be no conflict of interest as client N would want great visibility for their products on the web whereas client X don't currently hire us for this particular service however if they were to start this up in a few weeks, then conflict of interest becomes very likely and we'd find ourselves with two clients that want to be found on the web for the same products and would essentially be competitors.
Originally, I was going to instruct our team to turn down the new enquiry explaining that we already have a client in the same niche and wouldn't be able to work with them as well but I'm now thinking why shouldn't we take them on as a new client - as it stands, our existing client don't pay us for marketing their business - but we did play a huge role in their online presence, brand and business growth.
Is it a conflict of interest to take on multiple clients in the same niche?
clients
edited Jun 21 '14 at 19:33
jmort253♦
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asked Jun 20 '14 at 11:50
zigojacko
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I'm one of the directors of multiple digital marketing and creative design/development agencies in the UK. This doesn't happen particularly frequently but this week, I found myself in this scenario.
We have one existing client which are a local business to us. They sell a type of product which they design and manufacturer themselves. We designed, developed and branded their responsive eCommerce website and currently host it.
Let's call them client X (x for existing).
This week, we received a referral within the SEO industry and another eCommerce business selling the same type of product but not exactly the same because client X design and make their own. This business is ready to start work with us, has a starting monthly retainer budget and wants to proceed asap.
Let's call them client N (n for new).
The only revenue we currently generate from client X is monthly hosting and perhaps the very infrequent off job here and there on their website. They do however want to start doing some marketing/SEO at some point soon (no idea when this may be though).
Client N however is ready to start working with us immediately and has a budget at the ready. If we were to begin working with client N, there would, at present, be no conflict of interest as client N would want great visibility for their products on the web whereas client X don't currently hire us for this particular service however if they were to start this up in a few weeks, then conflict of interest becomes very likely and we'd find ourselves with two clients that want to be found on the web for the same products and would essentially be competitors.
Originally, I was going to instruct our team to turn down the new enquiry explaining that we already have a client in the same niche and wouldn't be able to work with them as well but I'm now thinking why shouldn't we take them on as a new client - as it stands, our existing client don't pay us for marketing their business - but we did play a huge role in their online presence, brand and business growth.
Is it a conflict of interest to take on multiple clients in the same niche?
clients
edited Jun 21 '14 at 19:33
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asked Jun 20 '14 at 11:50
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Have you considered asking X? When I feel like there might be conflict I ask the existing client. Sometimes they say sure, sometimes they say they don't want their competition to have the amazing advantages we bring, always they're happy I asked and generally I am too.
– Kate Gregory
Jun 20 '14 at 13:12
1
The first thing I did was openly advise client X that we had what would likely prove to be a competitor approach us wanting to hire us for digital marketing. They didn't really have much comment on whether they'd be happy for us to work with client N as well as them though.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 13:41
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You turn down work fromNand then next weekXquits. Now you're out two opportunities.
– user7360
Jun 20 '14 at 17:40
I edited this slightly to clarify the question at the bottom of the post. Our Q&A platform works best when the question is more specific. This is mostly for readability purposes as you're already getting good answers. Hope this helps.
– jmort253♦
Jun 21 '14 at 19:34
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@zigojacko always good to have a stable client, but never get too comfortable.
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Have you considered asking X? When I feel like there might be conflict I ask the existing client. Sometimes they say sure, sometimes they say they don't want their competition to have the amazing advantages we bring, always they're happy I asked and generally I am too.
– Kate Gregory
Jun 20 '14 at 13:12
1
The first thing I did was openly advise client X that we had what would likely prove to be a competitor approach us wanting to hire us for digital marketing. They didn't really have much comment on whether they'd be happy for us to work with client N as well as them though.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 13:41
3
You turn down work fromNand then next weekXquits. Now you're out two opportunities.
– user7360
Jun 20 '14 at 17:40
I edited this slightly to clarify the question at the bottom of the post. Our Q&A platform works best when the question is more specific. This is mostly for readability purposes as you're already getting good answers. Hope this helps.
– jmort253♦
Jun 21 '14 at 19:34
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@zigojacko always good to have a stable client, but never get too comfortable.
– user7360
Jun 23 '14 at 12:29
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Have you considered asking X? When I feel like there might be conflict I ask the existing client. Sometimes they say sure, sometimes they say they don't want their competition to have the amazing advantages we bring, always they're happy I asked and generally I am too.
– Kate Gregory
Jun 20 '14 at 13:12
Have you considered asking X? When I feel like there might be conflict I ask the existing client. Sometimes they say sure, sometimes they say they don't want their competition to have the amazing advantages we bring, always they're happy I asked and generally I am too.
– Kate Gregory
Jun 20 '14 at 13:12
1
1
The first thing I did was openly advise client X that we had what would likely prove to be a competitor approach us wanting to hire us for digital marketing. They didn't really have much comment on whether they'd be happy for us to work with client N as well as them though.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 13:41
The first thing I did was openly advise client X that we had what would likely prove to be a competitor approach us wanting to hire us for digital marketing. They didn't really have much comment on whether they'd be happy for us to work with client N as well as them though.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 13:41
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You turn down work from
N and then next week X quits. Now you're out two opportunities.– user7360
Jun 20 '14 at 17:40
You turn down work from
N and then next week X quits. Now you're out two opportunities.– user7360
Jun 20 '14 at 17:40
I edited this slightly to clarify the question at the bottom of the post. Our Q&A platform works best when the question is more specific. This is mostly for readability purposes as you're already getting good answers. Hope this helps.
– jmort253♦
Jun 21 '14 at 19:34
I edited this slightly to clarify the question at the bottom of the post. Our Q&A platform works best when the question is more specific. This is mostly for readability purposes as you're already getting good answers. Hope this helps.
– jmort253♦
Jun 21 '14 at 19:34
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1
@zigojacko always good to have a stable client, but never get too comfortable.
– user7360
Jun 23 '14 at 12:29
@zigojacko always good to have a stable client, but never get too comfortable.
– user7360
Jun 23 '14 at 12:29
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All of our clients are in the same niche. The main thing to do is to meet their concerns that their proprietary information will not get shared with other companies. We have done this through written assurance, through having separate teams, through database design (and sometimes through the separation of data onto different servers), through our security and qa policies, though signed non-disclosure agreements (especially when we are aware of certain new things coming into the market) and once even through creating a separate subsidiary company in a separate building with separate equipment (this was for a very large client).
I would suggest that you think of how you will keep the information separate and propose this to both the clients in writing. Then ask them what additional actions you might need to take for them to feel comfortable with the situation. In pricing your work, make sure that you consider the need to silo information may cost more. When we have had clients who insisted on on separate data servers for instance, they had to pay for the additional equipment. I would consider coming up with a plan, then discussing with your current client before you accept the next one. Once you know what their concerns are and have been able to meet them, you are better prepared with what to propose to the other and if the current client will not accept the idea, then you know you have to evaluate which one will bring in more business and let the other go. But by being proactive in bringing up the subject, you will likely alleviate some of the concerns.
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Keeping the information separate isn't an issue. It's just when both clients want to be ranked for the same keyword in Google (say for example), we'd only be able to rank one of them at #1 of course. Thanks for your answer, it contains some useful points.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:00
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By keeping the teams separate, both would work towards getting their client ranked number 1. Of course since their other competitors are also doing the same thing, I would suspect that no guarantees can be made about this. Could be a third company gets ranked number 1.
– HLGEM
Jun 20 '14 at 14:08
I see the benefits there with the separate teams (if it comes to it, we could split the team for clients in the same/similar niches) - great input - thanks.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:16
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@HLGEM I actually feel your comment about different teams vs competitors is a point more vital than any of the ones in the answer.
– corsiKa
Jun 20 '14 at 14:48
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#1 rank = highest bidder! Problem solved.
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I used to run the IT Security Practice of a high tech marketing consulting firm. One strategic marketing analysis that we did for a client firewall manufacturer somehow found its way to the Internet - no, we were not the source of the leak - and fell into the hands of a competitor. Competitor was so impressed that they scheduled an immediate interview with us for us to do the same work for them and of course, the first thing that came up was how we planned to manage the relationship with both the current client and the prospective client i.e. the competitor.
We told the competitor that we would assign a different team to work for the competitor and that we would create a Chinese wall between the teams to make sure that all confidentiality would be maintained and that each team would be 100% dedicated to their client's success. The competitor's concern was met.
Since we were not a big outfit, I was planning to split my team in half, draw resources from other Practice Areas within the firm for each team, and place the arrangement under the supervision of the CTO - I recused myself from the supervisory role because I wanted to take sides :)
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
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Great, thanks for sharing your personal experience on this - were the goals for both clients exactly the same?
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 12:21
@rigojacko Yes, in the sense that they both wanted success in the marketplace. No, in the sense that our analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of each product indicated that while there would be some overlap in the customer categories they were targeting, the configuration of the products' strengths and weaknesses was distinctive enough that each product would best appeal to different sets of ustomers.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 12:27
Thanks for clarification. With client X also in retail as well as etail, there is probably more scope for broader targeting towards goals than client N so this may also be workable with.
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Jun 23 '14 at 8:42
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Like other answers indicated, you can have two isolated teams working on both projects simultaneously.
With the service you are providing, it is very easy to see which company is in the lead. The company that falls behind, is going to blame this failure on the fact that the team you assigned to them is not as good as the other team. Or worse, they could accuse you of taking sides. Maybe the other company is paying you more? Maybe they will request a discount in their fees.
What is going to be your response? You may want to address this ahead of time and in some type of contract explain you are going to make the best effort, but the competitor could be ahead at some point. Odds are they won't be in a tie.
Very good points, thanks for highlighting these - definitely will require some consideration.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:03
So what? One company could have a higher Google search ranking, and the other one could be making more money. Or one company could be having larger revenues, but the other one could have a higher profit percentage. The only thing I will agree on is on being careful to set the client's expectations so that they are not all over us on the basis of a couple of indicators.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 14:26
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@VietnhiPhuvan - Good luck with that. May all your clients be rational. So what if you lose their business.
– user8365
Jun 20 '14 at 18:24
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@JeffO Is that the end of the world? Yes, Irrational clients are worth their weight in gold - the gold they cost my employer in terms of time, energy and aggravation. You can have those.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 18:42
@VietnhiPhuvan - Most companies don't get rid of those clients until it's too late. I'm just saying be prepared.
– user8365
Jun 27 '14 at 1:50
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All of our clients are in the same niche. The main thing to do is to meet their concerns that their proprietary information will not get shared with other companies. We have done this through written assurance, through having separate teams, through database design (and sometimes through the separation of data onto different servers), through our security and qa policies, though signed non-disclosure agreements (especially when we are aware of certain new things coming into the market) and once even through creating a separate subsidiary company in a separate building with separate equipment (this was for a very large client).
I would suggest that you think of how you will keep the information separate and propose this to both the clients in writing. Then ask them what additional actions you might need to take for them to feel comfortable with the situation. In pricing your work, make sure that you consider the need to silo information may cost more. When we have had clients who insisted on on separate data servers for instance, they had to pay for the additional equipment. I would consider coming up with a plan, then discussing with your current client before you accept the next one. Once you know what their concerns are and have been able to meet them, you are better prepared with what to propose to the other and if the current client will not accept the idea, then you know you have to evaluate which one will bring in more business and let the other go. But by being proactive in bringing up the subject, you will likely alleviate some of the concerns.
edited Jun 20 '14 at 15:20
Templar
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answered Jun 20 '14 at 13:43
HLGEM
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Keeping the information separate isn't an issue. It's just when both clients want to be ranked for the same keyword in Google (say for example), we'd only be able to rank one of them at #1 of course. Thanks for your answer, it contains some useful points.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:00
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By keeping the teams separate, both would work towards getting their client ranked number 1. Of course since their other competitors are also doing the same thing, I would suspect that no guarantees can be made about this. Could be a third company gets ranked number 1.
– HLGEM
Jun 20 '14 at 14:08
I see the benefits there with the separate teams (if it comes to it, we could split the team for clients in the same/similar niches) - great input - thanks.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:16
1
@HLGEM I actually feel your comment about different teams vs competitors is a point more vital than any of the ones in the answer.
– corsiKa
Jun 20 '14 at 14:48
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#1 rank = highest bidder! Problem solved.
– mxyzplk
Jun 21 '14 at 22:01
add a comment |Â
up vote
17
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accepted
All of our clients are in the same niche. The main thing to do is to meet their concerns that their proprietary information will not get shared with other companies. We have done this through written assurance, through having separate teams, through database design (and sometimes through the separation of data onto different servers), through our security and qa policies, though signed non-disclosure agreements (especially when we are aware of certain new things coming into the market) and once even through creating a separate subsidiary company in a separate building with separate equipment (this was for a very large client).
I would suggest that you think of how you will keep the information separate and propose this to both the clients in writing. Then ask them what additional actions you might need to take for them to feel comfortable with the situation. In pricing your work, make sure that you consider the need to silo information may cost more. When we have had clients who insisted on on separate data servers for instance, they had to pay for the additional equipment. I would consider coming up with a plan, then discussing with your current client before you accept the next one. Once you know what their concerns are and have been able to meet them, you are better prepared with what to propose to the other and if the current client will not accept the idea, then you know you have to evaluate which one will bring in more business and let the other go. But by being proactive in bringing up the subject, you will likely alleviate some of the concerns.
edited Jun 20 '14 at 15:20
Templar
1033
answered Jun 20 '14 at 13:43
HLGEM
133k25226489
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Keeping the information separate isn't an issue. It's just when both clients want to be ranked for the same keyword in Google (say for example), we'd only be able to rank one of them at #1 of course. Thanks for your answer, it contains some useful points.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:00
7
By keeping the teams separate, both would work towards getting their client ranked number 1. Of course since their other competitors are also doing the same thing, I would suspect that no guarantees can be made about this. Could be a third company gets ranked number 1.
– HLGEM
Jun 20 '14 at 14:08
I see the benefits there with the separate teams (if it comes to it, we could split the team for clients in the same/similar niches) - great input - thanks.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:16
1
@HLGEM I actually feel your comment about different teams vs competitors is a point more vital than any of the ones in the answer.
– corsiKa
Jun 20 '14 at 14:48
1
#1 rank = highest bidder! Problem solved.
– mxyzplk
Jun 21 '14 at 22:01
add a comment |Â
up vote
17
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accepted
up vote
17
down vote
accepted
All of our clients are in the same niche. The main thing to do is to meet their concerns that their proprietary information will not get shared with other companies. We have done this through written assurance, through having separate teams, through database design (and sometimes through the separation of data onto different servers), through our security and qa policies, though signed non-disclosure agreements (especially when we are aware of certain new things coming into the market) and once even through creating a separate subsidiary company in a separate building with separate equipment (this was for a very large client).
I would suggest that you think of how you will keep the information separate and propose this to both the clients in writing. Then ask them what additional actions you might need to take for them to feel comfortable with the situation. In pricing your work, make sure that you consider the need to silo information may cost more. When we have had clients who insisted on on separate data servers for instance, they had to pay for the additional equipment. I would consider coming up with a plan, then discussing with your current client before you accept the next one. Once you know what their concerns are and have been able to meet them, you are better prepared with what to propose to the other and if the current client will not accept the idea, then you know you have to evaluate which one will bring in more business and let the other go. But by being proactive in bringing up the subject, you will likely alleviate some of the concerns.
edited Jun 20 '14 at 15:20
Templar
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answered Jun 20 '14 at 13:43
HLGEM
133k25226489
All of our clients are in the same niche. The main thing to do is to meet their concerns that their proprietary information will not get shared with other companies. We have done this through written assurance, through having separate teams, through database design (and sometimes through the separation of data onto different servers), through our security and qa policies, though signed non-disclosure agreements (especially when we are aware of certain new things coming into the market) and once even through creating a separate subsidiary company in a separate building with separate equipment (this was for a very large client).
I would suggest that you think of how you will keep the information separate and propose this to both the clients in writing. Then ask them what additional actions you might need to take for them to feel comfortable with the situation. In pricing your work, make sure that you consider the need to silo information may cost more. When we have had clients who insisted on on separate data servers for instance, they had to pay for the additional equipment. I would consider coming up with a plan, then discussing with your current client before you accept the next one. Once you know what their concerns are and have been able to meet them, you are better prepared with what to propose to the other and if the current client will not accept the idea, then you know you have to evaluate which one will bring in more business and let the other go. But by being proactive in bringing up the subject, you will likely alleviate some of the concerns.
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answered Jun 20 '14 at 13:43
HLGEM
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Keeping the information separate isn't an issue. It's just when both clients want to be ranked for the same keyword in Google (say for example), we'd only be able to rank one of them at #1 of course. Thanks for your answer, it contains some useful points.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:00
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By keeping the teams separate, both would work towards getting their client ranked number 1. Of course since their other competitors are also doing the same thing, I would suspect that no guarantees can be made about this. Could be a third company gets ranked number 1.
– HLGEM
Jun 20 '14 at 14:08
I see the benefits there with the separate teams (if it comes to it, we could split the team for clients in the same/similar niches) - great input - thanks.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:16
1
@HLGEM I actually feel your comment about different teams vs competitors is a point more vital than any of the ones in the answer.
– corsiKa
Jun 20 '14 at 14:48
1
#1 rank = highest bidder! Problem solved.
– mxyzplk
Jun 21 '14 at 22:01
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Keeping the information separate isn't an issue. It's just when both clients want to be ranked for the same keyword in Google (say for example), we'd only be able to rank one of them at #1 of course. Thanks for your answer, it contains some useful points.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:00
7
By keeping the teams separate, both would work towards getting their client ranked number 1. Of course since their other competitors are also doing the same thing, I would suspect that no guarantees can be made about this. Could be a third company gets ranked number 1.
– HLGEM
Jun 20 '14 at 14:08
I see the benefits there with the separate teams (if it comes to it, we could split the team for clients in the same/similar niches) - great input - thanks.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:16
1
@HLGEM I actually feel your comment about different teams vs competitors is a point more vital than any of the ones in the answer.
– corsiKa
Jun 20 '14 at 14:48
1
#1 rank = highest bidder! Problem solved.
– mxyzplk
Jun 21 '14 at 22:01
3
3
Keeping the information separate isn't an issue. It's just when both clients want to be ranked for the same keyword in Google (say for example), we'd only be able to rank one of them at #1 of course. Thanks for your answer, it contains some useful points.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:00
Keeping the information separate isn't an issue. It's just when both clients want to be ranked for the same keyword in Google (say for example), we'd only be able to rank one of them at #1 of course. Thanks for your answer, it contains some useful points.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:00
7
7
By keeping the teams separate, both would work towards getting their client ranked number 1. Of course since their other competitors are also doing the same thing, I would suspect that no guarantees can be made about this. Could be a third company gets ranked number 1.
– HLGEM
Jun 20 '14 at 14:08
By keeping the teams separate, both would work towards getting their client ranked number 1. Of course since their other competitors are also doing the same thing, I would suspect that no guarantees can be made about this. Could be a third company gets ranked number 1.
– HLGEM
Jun 20 '14 at 14:08
I see the benefits there with the separate teams (if it comes to it, we could split the team for clients in the same/similar niches) - great input - thanks.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:16
I see the benefits there with the separate teams (if it comes to it, we could split the team for clients in the same/similar niches) - great input - thanks.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:16
1
1
@HLGEM I actually feel your comment about different teams vs competitors is a point more vital than any of the ones in the answer.
– corsiKa
Jun 20 '14 at 14:48
@HLGEM I actually feel your comment about different teams vs competitors is a point more vital than any of the ones in the answer.
– corsiKa
Jun 20 '14 at 14:48
1
1
#1 rank = highest bidder! Problem solved.
– mxyzplk
Jun 21 '14 at 22:01
#1 rank = highest bidder! Problem solved.
– mxyzplk
Jun 21 '14 at 22:01
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I used to run the IT Security Practice of a high tech marketing consulting firm. One strategic marketing analysis that we did for a client firewall manufacturer somehow found its way to the Internet - no, we were not the source of the leak - and fell into the hands of a competitor. Competitor was so impressed that they scheduled an immediate interview with us for us to do the same work for them and of course, the first thing that came up was how we planned to manage the relationship with both the current client and the prospective client i.e. the competitor.
We told the competitor that we would assign a different team to work for the competitor and that we would create a Chinese wall between the teams to make sure that all confidentiality would be maintained and that each team would be 100% dedicated to their client's success. The competitor's concern was met.
Since we were not a big outfit, I was planning to split my team in half, draw resources from other Practice Areas within the firm for each team, and place the arrangement under the supervision of the CTO - I recused myself from the supervisory role because I wanted to take sides :)
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
Great, thanks for sharing your personal experience on this - were the goals for both clients exactly the same?
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 12:21
@rigojacko Yes, in the sense that they both wanted success in the marketplace. No, in the sense that our analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of each product indicated that while there would be some overlap in the customer categories they were targeting, the configuration of the products' strengths and weaknesses was distinctive enough that each product would best appeal to different sets of ustomers.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 12:27
Thanks for clarification. With client X also in retail as well as etail, there is probably more scope for broader targeting towards goals than client N so this may also be workable with.
– zigojacko
Jun 23 '14 at 8:42
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I used to run the IT Security Practice of a high tech marketing consulting firm. One strategic marketing analysis that we did for a client firewall manufacturer somehow found its way to the Internet - no, we were not the source of the leak - and fell into the hands of a competitor. Competitor was so impressed that they scheduled an immediate interview with us for us to do the same work for them and of course, the first thing that came up was how we planned to manage the relationship with both the current client and the prospective client i.e. the competitor.
We told the competitor that we would assign a different team to work for the competitor and that we would create a Chinese wall between the teams to make sure that all confidentiality would be maintained and that each team would be 100% dedicated to their client's success. The competitor's concern was met.
Since we were not a big outfit, I was planning to split my team in half, draw resources from other Practice Areas within the firm for each team, and place the arrangement under the supervision of the CTO - I recused myself from the supervisory role because I wanted to take sides :)
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
Great, thanks for sharing your personal experience on this - were the goals for both clients exactly the same?
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 12:21
@rigojacko Yes, in the sense that they both wanted success in the marketplace. No, in the sense that our analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of each product indicated that while there would be some overlap in the customer categories they were targeting, the configuration of the products' strengths and weaknesses was distinctive enough that each product would best appeal to different sets of ustomers.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 12:27
Thanks for clarification. With client X also in retail as well as etail, there is probably more scope for broader targeting towards goals than client N so this may also be workable with.
– zigojacko
Jun 23 '14 at 8:42
add a comment |Â
up vote
12
down vote
up vote
12
down vote
I used to run the IT Security Practice of a high tech marketing consulting firm. One strategic marketing analysis that we did for a client firewall manufacturer somehow found its way to the Internet - no, we were not the source of the leak - and fell into the hands of a competitor. Competitor was so impressed that they scheduled an immediate interview with us for us to do the same work for them and of course, the first thing that came up was how we planned to manage the relationship with both the current client and the prospective client i.e. the competitor.
We told the competitor that we would assign a different team to work for the competitor and that we would create a Chinese wall between the teams to make sure that all confidentiality would be maintained and that each team would be 100% dedicated to their client's success. The competitor's concern was met.
Since we were not a big outfit, I was planning to split my team in half, draw resources from other Practice Areas within the firm for each team, and place the arrangement under the supervision of the CTO - I recused myself from the supervisory role because I wanted to take sides :)
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
I used to run the IT Security Practice of a high tech marketing consulting firm. One strategic marketing analysis that we did for a client firewall manufacturer somehow found its way to the Internet - no, we were not the source of the leak - and fell into the hands of a competitor. Competitor was so impressed that they scheduled an immediate interview with us for us to do the same work for them and of course, the first thing that came up was how we planned to manage the relationship with both the current client and the prospective client i.e. the competitor.
We told the competitor that we would assign a different team to work for the competitor and that we would create a Chinese wall between the teams to make sure that all confidentiality would be maintained and that each team would be 100% dedicated to their client's success. The competitor's concern was met.
Since we were not a big outfit, I was planning to split my team in half, draw resources from other Practice Areas within the firm for each team, and place the arrangement under the supervision of the CTO - I recused myself from the supervisory role because I wanted to take sides :)
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
edited Jun 20 '14 at 13:06
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
answered Jun 20 '14 at 12:16
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
68.9k7118254
Great, thanks for sharing your personal experience on this - were the goals for both clients exactly the same?
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 12:21
@rigojacko Yes, in the sense that they both wanted success in the marketplace. No, in the sense that our analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of each product indicated that while there would be some overlap in the customer categories they were targeting, the configuration of the products' strengths and weaknesses was distinctive enough that each product would best appeal to different sets of ustomers.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 12:27
Thanks for clarification. With client X also in retail as well as etail, there is probably more scope for broader targeting towards goals than client N so this may also be workable with.
– zigojacko
Jun 23 '14 at 8:42
add a comment |Â
Great, thanks for sharing your personal experience on this - were the goals for both clients exactly the same?
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 12:21
@rigojacko Yes, in the sense that they both wanted success in the marketplace. No, in the sense that our analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of each product indicated that while there would be some overlap in the customer categories they were targeting, the configuration of the products' strengths and weaknesses was distinctive enough that each product would best appeal to different sets of ustomers.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 12:27
Thanks for clarification. With client X also in retail as well as etail, there is probably more scope for broader targeting towards goals than client N so this may also be workable with.
– zigojacko
Jun 23 '14 at 8:42
Great, thanks for sharing your personal experience on this - were the goals for both clients exactly the same?
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 12:21
Great, thanks for sharing your personal experience on this - were the goals for both clients exactly the same?
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 12:21
@rigojacko Yes, in the sense that they both wanted success in the marketplace. No, in the sense that our analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of each product indicated that while there would be some overlap in the customer categories they were targeting, the configuration of the products' strengths and weaknesses was distinctive enough that each product would best appeal to different sets of ustomers.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 12:27
@rigojacko Yes, in the sense that they both wanted success in the marketplace. No, in the sense that our analysis of the strengths and weaknesses of each product indicated that while there would be some overlap in the customer categories they were targeting, the configuration of the products' strengths and weaknesses was distinctive enough that each product would best appeal to different sets of ustomers.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 12:27
Thanks for clarification. With client X also in retail as well as etail, there is probably more scope for broader targeting towards goals than client N so this may also be workable with.
– zigojacko
Jun 23 '14 at 8:42
Thanks for clarification. With client X also in retail as well as etail, there is probably more scope for broader targeting towards goals than client N so this may also be workable with.
– zigojacko
Jun 23 '14 at 8:42
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Like other answers indicated, you can have two isolated teams working on both projects simultaneously.
With the service you are providing, it is very easy to see which company is in the lead. The company that falls behind, is going to blame this failure on the fact that the team you assigned to them is not as good as the other team. Or worse, they could accuse you of taking sides. Maybe the other company is paying you more? Maybe they will request a discount in their fees.
What is going to be your response? You may want to address this ahead of time and in some type of contract explain you are going to make the best effort, but the competitor could be ahead at some point. Odds are they won't be in a tie.
Very good points, thanks for highlighting these - definitely will require some consideration.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:03
So what? One company could have a higher Google search ranking, and the other one could be making more money. Or one company could be having larger revenues, but the other one could have a higher profit percentage. The only thing I will agree on is on being careful to set the client's expectations so that they are not all over us on the basis of a couple of indicators.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 14:26
1
@VietnhiPhuvan - Good luck with that. May all your clients be rational. So what if you lose their business.
– user8365
Jun 20 '14 at 18:24
2
@JeffO Is that the end of the world? Yes, Irrational clients are worth their weight in gold - the gold they cost my employer in terms of time, energy and aggravation. You can have those.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 18:42
@VietnhiPhuvan - Most companies don't get rid of those clients until it's too late. I'm just saying be prepared.
– user8365
Jun 27 '14 at 1:50
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Like other answers indicated, you can have two isolated teams working on both projects simultaneously.
With the service you are providing, it is very easy to see which company is in the lead. The company that falls behind, is going to blame this failure on the fact that the team you assigned to them is not as good as the other team. Or worse, they could accuse you of taking sides. Maybe the other company is paying you more? Maybe they will request a discount in their fees.
What is going to be your response? You may want to address this ahead of time and in some type of contract explain you are going to make the best effort, but the competitor could be ahead at some point. Odds are they won't be in a tie.
Very good points, thanks for highlighting these - definitely will require some consideration.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:03
So what? One company could have a higher Google search ranking, and the other one could be making more money. Or one company could be having larger revenues, but the other one could have a higher profit percentage. The only thing I will agree on is on being careful to set the client's expectations so that they are not all over us on the basis of a couple of indicators.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 14:26
1
@VietnhiPhuvan - Good luck with that. May all your clients be rational. So what if you lose their business.
– user8365
Jun 20 '14 at 18:24
2
@JeffO Is that the end of the world? Yes, Irrational clients are worth their weight in gold - the gold they cost my employer in terms of time, energy and aggravation. You can have those.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 18:42
@VietnhiPhuvan - Most companies don't get rid of those clients until it's too late. I'm just saying be prepared.
– user8365
Jun 27 '14 at 1:50
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Like other answers indicated, you can have two isolated teams working on both projects simultaneously.
With the service you are providing, it is very easy to see which company is in the lead. The company that falls behind, is going to blame this failure on the fact that the team you assigned to them is not as good as the other team. Or worse, they could accuse you of taking sides. Maybe the other company is paying you more? Maybe they will request a discount in their fees.
What is going to be your response? You may want to address this ahead of time and in some type of contract explain you are going to make the best effort, but the competitor could be ahead at some point. Odds are they won't be in a tie.
Like other answers indicated, you can have two isolated teams working on both projects simultaneously.
With the service you are providing, it is very easy to see which company is in the lead. The company that falls behind, is going to blame this failure on the fact that the team you assigned to them is not as good as the other team. Or worse, they could accuse you of taking sides. Maybe the other company is paying you more? Maybe they will request a discount in their fees.
What is going to be your response? You may want to address this ahead of time and in some type of contract explain you are going to make the best effort, but the competitor could be ahead at some point. Odds are they won't be in a tie.
answered Jun 20 '14 at 14:01
user8365
Very good points, thanks for highlighting these - definitely will require some consideration.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:03
So what? One company could have a higher Google search ranking, and the other one could be making more money. Or one company could be having larger revenues, but the other one could have a higher profit percentage. The only thing I will agree on is on being careful to set the client's expectations so that they are not all over us on the basis of a couple of indicators.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 14:26
1
@VietnhiPhuvan - Good luck with that. May all your clients be rational. So what if you lose their business.
– user8365
Jun 20 '14 at 18:24
2
@JeffO Is that the end of the world? Yes, Irrational clients are worth their weight in gold - the gold they cost my employer in terms of time, energy and aggravation. You can have those.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 18:42
@VietnhiPhuvan - Most companies don't get rid of those clients until it's too late. I'm just saying be prepared.
– user8365
Jun 27 '14 at 1:50
add a comment |Â
Very good points, thanks for highlighting these - definitely will require some consideration.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:03
So what? One company could have a higher Google search ranking, and the other one could be making more money. Or one company could be having larger revenues, but the other one could have a higher profit percentage. The only thing I will agree on is on being careful to set the client's expectations so that they are not all over us on the basis of a couple of indicators.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 14:26
1
@VietnhiPhuvan - Good luck with that. May all your clients be rational. So what if you lose their business.
– user8365
Jun 20 '14 at 18:24
2
@JeffO Is that the end of the world? Yes, Irrational clients are worth their weight in gold - the gold they cost my employer in terms of time, energy and aggravation. You can have those.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 18:42
@VietnhiPhuvan - Most companies don't get rid of those clients until it's too late. I'm just saying be prepared.
– user8365
Jun 27 '14 at 1:50
Very good points, thanks for highlighting these - definitely will require some consideration.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:03
Very good points, thanks for highlighting these - definitely will require some consideration.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 14:03
So what? One company could have a higher Google search ranking, and the other one could be making more money. Or one company could be having larger revenues, but the other one could have a higher profit percentage. The only thing I will agree on is on being careful to set the client's expectations so that they are not all over us on the basis of a couple of indicators.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 14:26
So what? One company could have a higher Google search ranking, and the other one could be making more money. Or one company could be having larger revenues, but the other one could have a higher profit percentage. The only thing I will agree on is on being careful to set the client's expectations so that they are not all over us on the basis of a couple of indicators.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 14:26
1
1
@VietnhiPhuvan - Good luck with that. May all your clients be rational. So what if you lose their business.
– user8365
Jun 20 '14 at 18:24
@VietnhiPhuvan - Good luck with that. May all your clients be rational. So what if you lose their business.
– user8365
Jun 20 '14 at 18:24
2
2
@JeffO Is that the end of the world? Yes, Irrational clients are worth their weight in gold - the gold they cost my employer in terms of time, energy and aggravation. You can have those.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 18:42
@JeffO Is that the end of the world? Yes, Irrational clients are worth their weight in gold - the gold they cost my employer in terms of time, energy and aggravation. You can have those.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Jun 20 '14 at 18:42
@VietnhiPhuvan - Most companies don't get rid of those clients until it's too late. I'm just saying be prepared.
– user8365
Jun 27 '14 at 1:50
@VietnhiPhuvan - Most companies don't get rid of those clients until it's too late. I'm just saying be prepared.
– user8365
Jun 27 '14 at 1:50
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Have you considered asking X? When I feel like there might be conflict I ask the existing client. Sometimes they say sure, sometimes they say they don't want their competition to have the amazing advantages we bring, always they're happy I asked and generally I am too.
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Jun 20 '14 at 13:12
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The first thing I did was openly advise client X that we had what would likely prove to be a competitor approach us wanting to hire us for digital marketing. They didn't really have much comment on whether they'd be happy for us to work with client N as well as them though.
– zigojacko
Jun 20 '14 at 13:41
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You turn down work from
Nand then next weekXquits. Now you're out two opportunities.– user7360
Jun 20 '14 at 17:40
I edited this slightly to clarify the question at the bottom of the post. Our Q&A platform works best when the question is more specific. This is mostly for readability purposes as you're already getting good answers. Hope this helps.
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@zigojacko always good to have a stable client, but never get too comfortable.
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