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I am currently working as an intern in a small company.
When applying for the job, I and the employer agreed that I would be payed
a small amount each month - "150-200 euros" - so that I can cover my expenses. I would get the rest of my pay at the end of the internship (in my country internships work this way).
Now the employer refuses to pay me even that small amount with the excuse that he has difficulties with money. Since I have to cover my expenses somehow, I asked him to work for 5 hours instead of 8 and to stop coming to work on saturdays, to be able to find a second job.
I don't like to be abused on that level - that's why I asked for these conditions. I am not pretty sure if I am wrong or right and if I am, I would like to know how can I avoid bad recommendations from my employer
To make matters clear. In my country the intern gets paid 80% of the minimum salary, which is around 480 eu, half from the employer (each month) and the other half from government (at the end of the internship). So from the 240 I should be getting each month I get 0.
Added 22/5/2015
@Brandin Thank you for your answer.
•If i work 5 instead of 8 hours i could find a part time to cover my expenses. and
•i have to come to work so that i can be true to my word (because i knew that i would be getting less money but not nothing at all)
•also i have to work because half of my payment is going to be given to my by the govt at the end of the internship
salary ethics internship
edited May 22 '15 at 12:26
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closed as off-topic by gnat, scaaahu, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦, jcmeloni May 22 '15 at 14:43
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I am currently working as an intern in a small company.
When applying for the job, I and the employer agreed that I would be payed
a small amount each month - "150-200 euros" - so that I can cover my expenses. I would get the rest of my pay at the end of the internship (in my country internships work this way).
Now the employer refuses to pay me even that small amount with the excuse that he has difficulties with money. Since I have to cover my expenses somehow, I asked him to work for 5 hours instead of 8 and to stop coming to work on saturdays, to be able to find a second job.
I don't like to be abused on that level - that's why I asked for these conditions. I am not pretty sure if I am wrong or right and if I am, I would like to know how can I avoid bad recommendations from my employer
To make matters clear. In my country the intern gets paid 80% of the minimum salary, which is around 480 eu, half from the employer (each month) and the other half from government (at the end of the internship). So from the 240 I should be getting each month I get 0.
Added 22/5/2015
@Brandin Thank you for your answer.
•If i work 5 instead of 8 hours i could find a part time to cover my expenses. and
•i have to come to work so that i can be true to my word (because i knew that i would be getting less money but not nothing at all)
•also i have to work because half of my payment is going to be given to my by the govt at the end of the internship
salary ethics internship
edited May 22 '15 at 12:26
David K
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asked May 22 '15 at 6:55
NikosK
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closed as off-topic by gnat, scaaahu, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦, jcmeloni May 22 '15 at 14:43
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – gnat, scaaahu, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S, jcmeloni
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How does working for 5 hours instead of 8 help you cover your expenses? If the gig agreed to pay X euros per month, but now they're not able to pay it, why should you come in at all?
– Brandin
May 22 '15 at 7:14
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If you can switch your internship to another company, do so ASAP. You are pulling on a dead horse.
– Jan Doggen
May 22 '15 at 8:06
How did you agree you'd be paid? Verbally?
– hd.
May 22 '15 at 14:51
You should contact the govermental organization that would have paid part of your salary and ask them how to proceed.
– jmoreno
May 24 '15 at 1:12
Do you have some type of contract or written agreement?
– Llopis
May 25 '15 at 12:57
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I am currently working as an intern in a small company.
When applying for the job, I and the employer agreed that I would be payed
a small amount each month - "150-200 euros" - so that I can cover my expenses. I would get the rest of my pay at the end of the internship (in my country internships work this way).
Now the employer refuses to pay me even that small amount with the excuse that he has difficulties with money. Since I have to cover my expenses somehow, I asked him to work for 5 hours instead of 8 and to stop coming to work on saturdays, to be able to find a second job.
I don't like to be abused on that level - that's why I asked for these conditions. I am not pretty sure if I am wrong or right and if I am, I would like to know how can I avoid bad recommendations from my employer
To make matters clear. In my country the intern gets paid 80% of the minimum salary, which is around 480 eu, half from the employer (each month) and the other half from government (at the end of the internship). So from the 240 I should be getting each month I get 0.
Added 22/5/2015
@Brandin Thank you for your answer.
•If i work 5 instead of 8 hours i could find a part time to cover my expenses. and
•i have to come to work so that i can be true to my word (because i knew that i would be getting less money but not nothing at all)
•also i have to work because half of my payment is going to be given to my by the govt at the end of the internship
salary ethics internship
edited May 22 '15 at 12:26
David K
20.8k1075110
asked May 22 '15 at 6:55
NikosK
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I am currently working as an intern in a small company.
When applying for the job, I and the employer agreed that I would be payed
a small amount each month - "150-200 euros" - so that I can cover my expenses. I would get the rest of my pay at the end of the internship (in my country internships work this way).
Now the employer refuses to pay me even that small amount with the excuse that he has difficulties with money. Since I have to cover my expenses somehow, I asked him to work for 5 hours instead of 8 and to stop coming to work on saturdays, to be able to find a second job.
I don't like to be abused on that level - that's why I asked for these conditions. I am not pretty sure if I am wrong or right and if I am, I would like to know how can I avoid bad recommendations from my employer
To make matters clear. In my country the intern gets paid 80% of the minimum salary, which is around 480 eu, half from the employer (each month) and the other half from government (at the end of the internship). So from the 240 I should be getting each month I get 0.
Added 22/5/2015
@Brandin Thank you for your answer.
•If i work 5 instead of 8 hours i could find a part time to cover my expenses. and
•i have to come to work so that i can be true to my word (because i knew that i would be getting less money but not nothing at all)
•also i have to work because half of my payment is going to be given to my by the govt at the end of the internship
salary ethics internship
edited May 22 '15 at 12:26
David K
20.8k1075110
asked May 22 '15 at 6:55
NikosK
191
edited May 22 '15 at 12:26
David K
20.8k1075110
edited May 22 '15 at 12:26
David K
20.8k1075110
edited May 22 '15 at 12:26
David K
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20.8k1075110
asked May 22 '15 at 6:55
NikosK
191
asked May 22 '15 at 6:55
NikosK
191
asked May 22 '15 at 6:55
NikosK
191
191
closed as off-topic by gnat, scaaahu, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦, jcmeloni May 22 '15 at 14:43
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – gnat, scaaahu, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S, jcmeloni
closed as off-topic by gnat, scaaahu, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦, jcmeloni May 22 '15 at 14:43
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – gnat, scaaahu, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S, jcmeloni
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How does working for 5 hours instead of 8 help you cover your expenses? If the gig agreed to pay X euros per month, but now they're not able to pay it, why should you come in at all?
– Brandin
May 22 '15 at 7:14
3
If you can switch your internship to another company, do so ASAP. You are pulling on a dead horse.
– Jan Doggen
May 22 '15 at 8:06
How did you agree you'd be paid? Verbally?
– hd.
May 22 '15 at 14:51
You should contact the govermental organization that would have paid part of your salary and ask them how to proceed.
– jmoreno
May 24 '15 at 1:12
Do you have some type of contract or written agreement?
– Llopis
May 25 '15 at 12:57
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How does working for 5 hours instead of 8 help you cover your expenses? If the gig agreed to pay X euros per month, but now they're not able to pay it, why should you come in at all?
– Brandin
May 22 '15 at 7:14
3
If you can switch your internship to another company, do so ASAP. You are pulling on a dead horse.
– Jan Doggen
May 22 '15 at 8:06
How did you agree you'd be paid? Verbally?
– hd.
May 22 '15 at 14:51
You should contact the govermental organization that would have paid part of your salary and ask them how to proceed.
– jmoreno
May 24 '15 at 1:12
Do you have some type of contract or written agreement?
– Llopis
May 25 '15 at 12:57
1
1
How does working for 5 hours instead of 8 help you cover your expenses? If the gig agreed to pay X euros per month, but now they're not able to pay it, why should you come in at all?
– Brandin
May 22 '15 at 7:14
How does working for 5 hours instead of 8 help you cover your expenses? If the gig agreed to pay X euros per month, but now they're not able to pay it, why should you come in at all?
– Brandin
May 22 '15 at 7:14
3
3
If you can switch your internship to another company, do so ASAP. You are pulling on a dead horse.
– Jan Doggen
May 22 '15 at 8:06
If you can switch your internship to another company, do so ASAP. You are pulling on a dead horse.
– Jan Doggen
May 22 '15 at 8:06
How did you agree you'd be paid? Verbally?
– hd.
May 22 '15 at 14:51
How did you agree you'd be paid? Verbally?
– hd.
May 22 '15 at 14:51
You should contact the govermental organization that would have paid part of your salary and ask them how to proceed.
– jmoreno
May 24 '15 at 1:12
You should contact the govermental organization that would have paid part of your salary and ask them how to proceed.
– jmoreno
May 24 '15 at 1:12
Do you have some type of contract or written agreement?
– Llopis
May 25 '15 at 12:57
Do you have some type of contract or written agreement?
– Llopis
May 25 '15 at 12:57
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What do you think good people invented laws for? Depending on your country, there might be institutions which have been founded to solve problems like yours. They are called "labor union" or "trade union" (Gewerkschaft in german) and you should consider contacting them.
Keep in mind, that the power of those institutions depends on which country you live. In Austria, if you work for a company, you are automatically member of at least one labor union and they usually have more power than in Germany, for example. In countries like China, however, those organizations have almost no power at all, for what I know.
I personally know people who worked at internships and were refused to pay - in most cases it was enough that they demanded the payment by threatening to go to labor union if they wont get what the contract said. Otherwise, labor union takes the case to court and if the contract says that you will get paid, then you will get paid, even if employer has no money (though I have no idea, where they take the money in that case).
Concerning "bad recommendations", here in Austria at least, there are laws which prohibit employers from giving you bad recommendations. Which is also funny, because what is the purpose of employment references, when law does not allow you to write down negative things on that reference?
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For a student, I'd think that reporting to the school would be better than going directly to a union.
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What do you think good people invented laws for? Depending on your country, there might be institutions which have been founded to solve problems like yours. They are called "labor union" or "trade union" (Gewerkschaft in german) and you should consider contacting them.
Keep in mind, that the power of those institutions depends on which country you live. In Austria, if you work for a company, you are automatically member of at least one labor union and they usually have more power than in Germany, for example. In countries like China, however, those organizations have almost no power at all, for what I know.
I personally know people who worked at internships and were refused to pay - in most cases it was enough that they demanded the payment by threatening to go to labor union if they wont get what the contract said. Otherwise, labor union takes the case to court and if the contract says that you will get paid, then you will get paid, even if employer has no money (though I have no idea, where they take the money in that case).
Concerning "bad recommendations", here in Austria at least, there are laws which prohibit employers from giving you bad recommendations. Which is also funny, because what is the purpose of employment references, when law does not allow you to write down negative things on that reference?
edited May 22 '15 at 14:42
Brian
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answered May 22 '15 at 7:55
Acroneos
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For a student, I'd think that reporting to the school would be better than going directly to a union.
– Pacerier
May 26 '15 at 10:11
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
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What do you think good people invented laws for? Depending on your country, there might be institutions which have been founded to solve problems like yours. They are called "labor union" or "trade union" (Gewerkschaft in german) and you should consider contacting them.
Keep in mind, that the power of those institutions depends on which country you live. In Austria, if you work for a company, you are automatically member of at least one labor union and they usually have more power than in Germany, for example. In countries like China, however, those organizations have almost no power at all, for what I know.
I personally know people who worked at internships and were refused to pay - in most cases it was enough that they demanded the payment by threatening to go to labor union if they wont get what the contract said. Otherwise, labor union takes the case to court and if the contract says that you will get paid, then you will get paid, even if employer has no money (though I have no idea, where they take the money in that case).
Concerning "bad recommendations", here in Austria at least, there are laws which prohibit employers from giving you bad recommendations. Which is also funny, because what is the purpose of employment references, when law does not allow you to write down negative things on that reference?
edited May 22 '15 at 14:42
Brian
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answered May 22 '15 at 7:55
Acroneos
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For a student, I'd think that reporting to the school would be better than going directly to a union.
– Pacerier
May 26 '15 at 10:11
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
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up vote
3
down vote
What do you think good people invented laws for? Depending on your country, there might be institutions which have been founded to solve problems like yours. They are called "labor union" or "trade union" (Gewerkschaft in german) and you should consider contacting them.
Keep in mind, that the power of those institutions depends on which country you live. In Austria, if you work for a company, you are automatically member of at least one labor union and they usually have more power than in Germany, for example. In countries like China, however, those organizations have almost no power at all, for what I know.
I personally know people who worked at internships and were refused to pay - in most cases it was enough that they demanded the payment by threatening to go to labor union if they wont get what the contract said. Otherwise, labor union takes the case to court and if the contract says that you will get paid, then you will get paid, even if employer has no money (though I have no idea, where they take the money in that case).
Concerning "bad recommendations", here in Austria at least, there are laws which prohibit employers from giving you bad recommendations. Which is also funny, because what is the purpose of employment references, when law does not allow you to write down negative things on that reference?
edited May 22 '15 at 14:42
Brian
1,408922
answered May 22 '15 at 7:55
Acroneos
1,0422814
What do you think good people invented laws for? Depending on your country, there might be institutions which have been founded to solve problems like yours. They are called "labor union" or "trade union" (Gewerkschaft in german) and you should consider contacting them.
Keep in mind, that the power of those institutions depends on which country you live. In Austria, if you work for a company, you are automatically member of at least one labor union and they usually have more power than in Germany, for example. In countries like China, however, those organizations have almost no power at all, for what I know.
I personally know people who worked at internships and were refused to pay - in most cases it was enough that they demanded the payment by threatening to go to labor union if they wont get what the contract said. Otherwise, labor union takes the case to court and if the contract says that you will get paid, then you will get paid, even if employer has no money (though I have no idea, where they take the money in that case).
Concerning "bad recommendations", here in Austria at least, there are laws which prohibit employers from giving you bad recommendations. Which is also funny, because what is the purpose of employment references, when law does not allow you to write down negative things on that reference?
edited May 22 '15 at 14:42
Brian
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answered May 22 '15 at 7:55
Acroneos
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edited May 22 '15 at 14:42
Brian
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edited May 22 '15 at 14:42
Brian
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edited May 22 '15 at 14:42
Brian
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answered May 22 '15 at 7:55
Acroneos
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answered May 22 '15 at 7:55
Acroneos
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answered May 22 '15 at 7:55
Acroneos
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1,0422814
For a student, I'd think that reporting to the school would be better than going directly to a union.
– Pacerier
May 26 '15 at 10:11
suggest improvements |Â
For a student, I'd think that reporting to the school would be better than going directly to a union.
– Pacerier
May 26 '15 at 10:11
For a student, I'd think that reporting to the school would be better than going directly to a union.
– Pacerier
May 26 '15 at 10:11
For a student, I'd think that reporting to the school would be better than going directly to a union.
– Pacerier
May 26 '15 at 10:11
suggest improvements |Â
1
How does working for 5 hours instead of 8 help you cover your expenses? If the gig agreed to pay X euros per month, but now they're not able to pay it, why should you come in at all?
– Brandin
May 22 '15 at 7:14
3
If you can switch your internship to another company, do so ASAP. You are pulling on a dead horse.
– Jan Doggen
May 22 '15 at 8:06
How did you agree you'd be paid? Verbally?
– hd.
May 22 '15 at 14:51
You should contact the govermental organization that would have paid part of your salary and ask them how to proceed.
– jmoreno
May 24 '15 at 1:12
Do you have some type of contract or written agreement?
– Llopis
May 25 '15 at 12:57