How frustrated should I be before I quit, given that I have other options and saving? [closed]

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I've been working at 'startup' for 3.5 years, and I'm starting to get extremely frustrated with the work environment.



There is no process in place for development of features or support. For the last 4 months, we've adding major features to a branch that split off from the development branch a year ago, because people didn't want to risk the possibility of instability on the new version, and have ended up porting those very same features to the older version (besides adding additional features).
They're even illegally using an open source library that's part of the core of the application. We've lost many clients due to management forcing early releases and things being incomplete when deployed.



The 'personal' aspects (flexible hours, friendly relations with most people in the office) are good.



At the moment, I'm in the process of applying for my Masters degree next year, and am likely to get a part time job if I do quit. They're also planning on moving the development team to another country in the next couple of months because of the government incentives there.



How frustrated should I be before I quit? Can this affect my university applications or future career?







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closed as off-topic by Telastyn, Joe Strazzere, gnat, Jan Doggen, IDrinkandIKnowThings Sep 15 '14 at 15:59


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.












  • Have you talked about the issues with your colleagues?
    – Sprottenwels
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:31










  • Yes, 2 of the other 3 developers agree with me, the third has manager-type role, and he quite often agrees with me, but does not push the issues with the CXOs. I have tried pushing for more process, but again they seem to agree with me and then forget about when the time comes. We have 5 CXOs and 4 developers.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:35










  • meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/2696
    – gnat
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:57










  • @gnat I tried to make the question as helpful to the community as possible without it turning incoherent. But looking more closely at some of the upvoted questions on this site, I can see how this question is off topic. I'm still not sure what I should have asked instead.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:10










  • Do you think the university is going to evaluate the software/company that you are currently working for and take that into consideration before accepting you? What have you learned from this experience that has made you a better programmer? If anyone would be convinced on how important high-coding standards are, it would be someone who has experienced what you have.
    – user8365
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:18
















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I've been working at 'startup' for 3.5 years, and I'm starting to get extremely frustrated with the work environment.



There is no process in place for development of features or support. For the last 4 months, we've adding major features to a branch that split off from the development branch a year ago, because people didn't want to risk the possibility of instability on the new version, and have ended up porting those very same features to the older version (besides adding additional features).
They're even illegally using an open source library that's part of the core of the application. We've lost many clients due to management forcing early releases and things being incomplete when deployed.



The 'personal' aspects (flexible hours, friendly relations with most people in the office) are good.



At the moment, I'm in the process of applying for my Masters degree next year, and am likely to get a part time job if I do quit. They're also planning on moving the development team to another country in the next couple of months because of the government incentives there.



How frustrated should I be before I quit? Can this affect my university applications or future career?







share|improve this question












closed as off-topic by Telastyn, Joe Strazzere, gnat, Jan Doggen, IDrinkandIKnowThings Sep 15 '14 at 15:59


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.












  • Have you talked about the issues with your colleagues?
    – Sprottenwels
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:31










  • Yes, 2 of the other 3 developers agree with me, the third has manager-type role, and he quite often agrees with me, but does not push the issues with the CXOs. I have tried pushing for more process, but again they seem to agree with me and then forget about when the time comes. We have 5 CXOs and 4 developers.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:35










  • meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/2696
    – gnat
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:57










  • @gnat I tried to make the question as helpful to the community as possible without it turning incoherent. But looking more closely at some of the upvoted questions on this site, I can see how this question is off topic. I'm still not sure what I should have asked instead.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:10










  • Do you think the university is going to evaluate the software/company that you are currently working for and take that into consideration before accepting you? What have you learned from this experience that has made you a better programmer? If anyone would be convinced on how important high-coding standards are, it would be someone who has experienced what you have.
    – user8365
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:18












up vote
-2
down vote

favorite









up vote
-2
down vote

favorite











I've been working at 'startup' for 3.5 years, and I'm starting to get extremely frustrated with the work environment.



There is no process in place for development of features or support. For the last 4 months, we've adding major features to a branch that split off from the development branch a year ago, because people didn't want to risk the possibility of instability on the new version, and have ended up porting those very same features to the older version (besides adding additional features).
They're even illegally using an open source library that's part of the core of the application. We've lost many clients due to management forcing early releases and things being incomplete when deployed.



The 'personal' aspects (flexible hours, friendly relations with most people in the office) are good.



At the moment, I'm in the process of applying for my Masters degree next year, and am likely to get a part time job if I do quit. They're also planning on moving the development team to another country in the next couple of months because of the government incentives there.



How frustrated should I be before I quit? Can this affect my university applications or future career?







share|improve this question












I've been working at 'startup' for 3.5 years, and I'm starting to get extremely frustrated with the work environment.



There is no process in place for development of features or support. For the last 4 months, we've adding major features to a branch that split off from the development branch a year ago, because people didn't want to risk the possibility of instability on the new version, and have ended up porting those very same features to the older version (besides adding additional features).
They're even illegally using an open source library that's part of the core of the application. We've lost many clients due to management forcing early releases and things being incomplete when deployed.



The 'personal' aspects (flexible hours, friendly relations with most people in the office) are good.



At the moment, I'm in the process of applying for my Masters degree next year, and am likely to get a part time job if I do quit. They're also planning on moving the development team to another country in the next couple of months because of the government incentives there.



How frustrated should I be before I quit? Can this affect my university applications or future career?









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closed as off-topic by Telastyn, Joe Strazzere, gnat, Jan Doggen, IDrinkandIKnowThings Sep 15 '14 at 15:59


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.




closed as off-topic by Telastyn, Joe Strazzere, gnat, Jan Doggen, IDrinkandIKnowThings Sep 15 '14 at 15:59


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:


  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.











  • Have you talked about the issues with your colleagues?
    – Sprottenwels
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:31










  • Yes, 2 of the other 3 developers agree with me, the third has manager-type role, and he quite often agrees with me, but does not push the issues with the CXOs. I have tried pushing for more process, but again they seem to agree with me and then forget about when the time comes. We have 5 CXOs and 4 developers.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:35










  • meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/2696
    – gnat
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:57










  • @gnat I tried to make the question as helpful to the community as possible without it turning incoherent. But looking more closely at some of the upvoted questions on this site, I can see how this question is off topic. I'm still not sure what I should have asked instead.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:10










  • Do you think the university is going to evaluate the software/company that you are currently working for and take that into consideration before accepting you? What have you learned from this experience that has made you a better programmer? If anyone would be convinced on how important high-coding standards are, it would be someone who has experienced what you have.
    – user8365
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:18
















  • Have you talked about the issues with your colleagues?
    – Sprottenwels
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:31










  • Yes, 2 of the other 3 developers agree with me, the third has manager-type role, and he quite often agrees with me, but does not push the issues with the CXOs. I have tried pushing for more process, but again they seem to agree with me and then forget about when the time comes. We have 5 CXOs and 4 developers.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:35










  • meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/2696
    – gnat
    Sep 15 '14 at 14:57










  • @gnat I tried to make the question as helpful to the community as possible without it turning incoherent. But looking more closely at some of the upvoted questions on this site, I can see how this question is off topic. I'm still not sure what I should have asked instead.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:10










  • Do you think the university is going to evaluate the software/company that you are currently working for and take that into consideration before accepting you? What have you learned from this experience that has made you a better programmer? If anyone would be convinced on how important high-coding standards are, it would be someone who has experienced what you have.
    – user8365
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:18















Have you talked about the issues with your colleagues?
– Sprottenwels
Sep 15 '14 at 14:31




Have you talked about the issues with your colleagues?
– Sprottenwels
Sep 15 '14 at 14:31












Yes, 2 of the other 3 developers agree with me, the third has manager-type role, and he quite often agrees with me, but does not push the issues with the CXOs. I have tried pushing for more process, but again they seem to agree with me and then forget about when the time comes. We have 5 CXOs and 4 developers.
– AnonyMouse
Sep 15 '14 at 14:35




Yes, 2 of the other 3 developers agree with me, the third has manager-type role, and he quite often agrees with me, but does not push the issues with the CXOs. I have tried pushing for more process, but again they seem to agree with me and then forget about when the time comes. We have 5 CXOs and 4 developers.
– AnonyMouse
Sep 15 '14 at 14:35












meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/2696
– gnat
Sep 15 '14 at 14:57




meta.workplace.stackexchange.com/a/2696
– gnat
Sep 15 '14 at 14:57












@gnat I tried to make the question as helpful to the community as possible without it turning incoherent. But looking more closely at some of the upvoted questions on this site, I can see how this question is off topic. I'm still not sure what I should have asked instead.
– AnonyMouse
Sep 15 '14 at 15:10




@gnat I tried to make the question as helpful to the community as possible without it turning incoherent. But looking more closely at some of the upvoted questions on this site, I can see how this question is off topic. I'm still not sure what I should have asked instead.
– AnonyMouse
Sep 15 '14 at 15:10












Do you think the university is going to evaluate the software/company that you are currently working for and take that into consideration before accepting you? What have you learned from this experience that has made you a better programmer? If anyone would be convinced on how important high-coding standards are, it would be someone who has experienced what you have.
– user8365
Sep 15 '14 at 15:18




Do you think the university is going to evaluate the software/company that you are currently working for and take that into consideration before accepting you? What have you learned from this experience that has made you a better programmer? If anyone would be convinced on how important high-coding standards are, it would be someone who has experienced what you have.
– user8365
Sep 15 '14 at 15:18










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Noone but you can answer the first part of your question. How much frustration can you take? Are the good personal aspects enough compensation for the frustration you feel about your work? Putting all that in the balance is entirely up to you.



As for the second part of your question, I wouldn't worry. You seem to have legitimate reasons to quit, so explaining why you left in a future interview shouldn't be a problem.






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    Thanks ero, sorry if the question was a little off topic, will try harder to ask less subjective questions in the future.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:12











  • Referring to the final sentence of this answer, I completely agree. In fact it can work in your favour, if you can provide your reasoning without sounding like you're attacking your former employer (unprofessional) you can make your potential employer feel positively about their own business (assuming they're not ALSO suffering the problems you cite). They'll likely receive it as complimentary "I'm coming here because I have faith you guys will be better than those guys".
    – Nick Coad
    Sep 16 '14 at 6:53

















1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes








1 Answer
1






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes








up vote
2
down vote



accepted










Noone but you can answer the first part of your question. How much frustration can you take? Are the good personal aspects enough compensation for the frustration you feel about your work? Putting all that in the balance is entirely up to you.



As for the second part of your question, I wouldn't worry. You seem to have legitimate reasons to quit, so explaining why you left in a future interview shouldn't be a problem.






share|improve this answer
















  • 1




    Thanks ero, sorry if the question was a little off topic, will try harder to ask less subjective questions in the future.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:12











  • Referring to the final sentence of this answer, I completely agree. In fact it can work in your favour, if you can provide your reasoning without sounding like you're attacking your former employer (unprofessional) you can make your potential employer feel positively about their own business (assuming they're not ALSO suffering the problems you cite). They'll likely receive it as complimentary "I'm coming here because I have faith you guys will be better than those guys".
    – Nick Coad
    Sep 16 '14 at 6:53














up vote
2
down vote



accepted










Noone but you can answer the first part of your question. How much frustration can you take? Are the good personal aspects enough compensation for the frustration you feel about your work? Putting all that in the balance is entirely up to you.



As for the second part of your question, I wouldn't worry. You seem to have legitimate reasons to quit, so explaining why you left in a future interview shouldn't be a problem.






share|improve this answer
















  • 1




    Thanks ero, sorry if the question was a little off topic, will try harder to ask less subjective questions in the future.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:12











  • Referring to the final sentence of this answer, I completely agree. In fact it can work in your favour, if you can provide your reasoning without sounding like you're attacking your former employer (unprofessional) you can make your potential employer feel positively about their own business (assuming they're not ALSO suffering the problems you cite). They'll likely receive it as complimentary "I'm coming here because I have faith you guys will be better than those guys".
    – Nick Coad
    Sep 16 '14 at 6:53












up vote
2
down vote



accepted







up vote
2
down vote



accepted






Noone but you can answer the first part of your question. How much frustration can you take? Are the good personal aspects enough compensation for the frustration you feel about your work? Putting all that in the balance is entirely up to you.



As for the second part of your question, I wouldn't worry. You seem to have legitimate reasons to quit, so explaining why you left in a future interview shouldn't be a problem.






share|improve this answer












Noone but you can answer the first part of your question. How much frustration can you take? Are the good personal aspects enough compensation for the frustration you feel about your work? Putting all that in the balance is entirely up to you.



As for the second part of your question, I wouldn't worry. You seem to have legitimate reasons to quit, so explaining why you left in a future interview shouldn't be a problem.







share|improve this answer












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answered Sep 15 '14 at 14:52









ero

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    Thanks ero, sorry if the question was a little off topic, will try harder to ask less subjective questions in the future.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:12











  • Referring to the final sentence of this answer, I completely agree. In fact it can work in your favour, if you can provide your reasoning without sounding like you're attacking your former employer (unprofessional) you can make your potential employer feel positively about their own business (assuming they're not ALSO suffering the problems you cite). They'll likely receive it as complimentary "I'm coming here because I have faith you guys will be better than those guys".
    – Nick Coad
    Sep 16 '14 at 6:53












  • 1




    Thanks ero, sorry if the question was a little off topic, will try harder to ask less subjective questions in the future.
    – AnonyMouse
    Sep 15 '14 at 15:12











  • Referring to the final sentence of this answer, I completely agree. In fact it can work in your favour, if you can provide your reasoning without sounding like you're attacking your former employer (unprofessional) you can make your potential employer feel positively about their own business (assuming they're not ALSO suffering the problems you cite). They'll likely receive it as complimentary "I'm coming here because I have faith you guys will be better than those guys".
    – Nick Coad
    Sep 16 '14 at 6:53







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Thanks ero, sorry if the question was a little off topic, will try harder to ask less subjective questions in the future.
– AnonyMouse
Sep 15 '14 at 15:12





Thanks ero, sorry if the question was a little off topic, will try harder to ask less subjective questions in the future.
– AnonyMouse
Sep 15 '14 at 15:12













Referring to the final sentence of this answer, I completely agree. In fact it can work in your favour, if you can provide your reasoning without sounding like you're attacking your former employer (unprofessional) you can make your potential employer feel positively about their own business (assuming they're not ALSO suffering the problems you cite). They'll likely receive it as complimentary "I'm coming here because I have faith you guys will be better than those guys".
– Nick Coad
Sep 16 '14 at 6:53




Referring to the final sentence of this answer, I completely agree. In fact it can work in your favour, if you can provide your reasoning without sounding like you're attacking your former employer (unprofessional) you can make your potential employer feel positively about their own business (assuming they're not ALSO suffering the problems you cite). They'll likely receive it as complimentary "I'm coming here because I have faith you guys will be better than those guys".
– Nick Coad
Sep 16 '14 at 6:53


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