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I currently work in a small office, just me and my direct supervisor. I'm expecting a job offer from another organization in the next few days and wanted to prepare myself in case I have to give notice. However, my boss has been out of the office for a month now on vacation and with health concerns and has not communicated with me much during his absence, just a few text messages here and there with no specific information. I have no idea when he'll return, and even before his time away he tended to show up and work very random hours. I really have no idea how to approach this.
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I currently work in a small office, just me and my direct supervisor. I'm expecting a job offer from another organization in the next few days and wanted to prepare myself in case I have to give notice. However, my boss has been out of the office for a month now on vacation and with health concerns and has not communicated with me much during his absence, just a few text messages here and there with no specific information. I have no idea when he'll return, and even before his time away he tended to show up and work very random hours. I really have no idea how to approach this.
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Related (duplicate?): workplace.stackexchange.com/q/10708/325
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I currently work in a small office, just me and my direct supervisor. I'm expecting a job offer from another organization in the next few days and wanted to prepare myself in case I have to give notice. However, my boss has been out of the office for a month now on vacation and with health concerns and has not communicated with me much during his absence, just a few text messages here and there with no specific information. I have no idea when he'll return, and even before his time away he tended to show up and work very random hours. I really have no idea how to approach this.
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asked Nov 26 '14 at 14:32
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I currently work in a small office, just me and my direct supervisor. I'm expecting a job offer from another organization in the next few days and wanted to prepare myself in case I have to give notice. However, my boss has been out of the office for a month now on vacation and with health concerns and has not communicated with me much during his absence, just a few text messages here and there with no specific information. I have no idea when he'll return, and even before his time away he tended to show up and work very random hours. I really have no idea how to approach this.
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asked Nov 26 '14 at 14:32
Mike
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asked Nov 26 '14 at 14:32
Mike
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asked Nov 26 '14 at 14:32
Mike
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asked Nov 26 '14 at 14:32
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Related (duplicate?): workplace.stackexchange.com/q/10708/325
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Nov 26 '14 at 18:14
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Related (duplicate?): workplace.stackexchange.com/q/10708/325
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Nov 26 '14 at 18:14
Related (duplicate?): workplace.stackexchange.com/q/10708/325
– Monica Cellio♦
Nov 26 '14 at 18:14
Related (duplicate?): workplace.stackexchange.com/q/10708/325
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If your boss is unavailable, then you send your notice to their boss, cc'ing yours.
If your boss is the owner of the company, and therefore there is no one above them, then you send the notice to the person running things in their absence.
If there is no one running the company while the boss is absent then you just email / text the boss.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
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Almost agree: In that last case, in addition to electronic, I would make sure a paper copy is placed on his desk and/or mailed to him, so you're covered in case someone tries to argue that they need signed paperwork before they can take you seriously.
– keshlam
Nov 26 '14 at 15:28
But, try to talk to them, either in person or over the phone before resorting to email.
– thursdaysgeek
Nov 26 '14 at 16:08
Yeah I'd add in the step of "Try to call the boss at home" before emailing at all, and then send a text/email requesting a call or meeting. If they can't do that, or you can't get hold of them, send your resignation via email, with the same left in paper on their desk.
– Jon Story
Nov 26 '14 at 17:11
1
@keshlam while I'd agree that a written note is a good idea in that case, please keep in mind that when you resign, you're giving notice that you're leaving, not asking for permission to leave. Someone who tried to tell me that I needed to jump through daft hoops under those circumstances "or else I won't take you seriously" would be invited to guess whether their needs are on "RobM's list of things that are RobM's problem" or on "RobM's rather more famous list of things that are not RobM's problem".
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:19
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@keshlam I agree but at the point someone's telling me "do x or we won't take you seriously" (and where x isn't simply the method of resigning I agreed to in my contract, obviously) then I would certainly be looking to 'work to rule', so to speak, at that point. People who act like jerks get treated like one. In any case, my point was that fundamentally you are giving notice that you will leave, not asking if you can leave. It's an important distinction, and especially so when things turn problematic.
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:25
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Worst case: If it is impossible to reach anyone, you send your notice by registered mail to the company address. If the company isn't able to receive the notice, that's their problem, not yours. Imagine the Inland Revenue asks the company for a payment, or the boss is asked to appear in court for some reason. Do you think they'll wait just because your boss decided to go on holiday? They won't.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
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Send him an email giving him the notice. Tell him him that you are available for a conversation on the subject any time. If he wants to contact you and talk to you, he knows where and how to find you. At least, until you're gone. Follow up your email with a voice mail in case your email gets snagged by the spam filter of his Inbox. If you have an address for your boss, send him your notice by snail mail, too, by registered mail. The whole point of this exercise is that you are not taking any chances on him not getting the message you're giving him.
If your company has an HR and/or the company has produced an employee manual, review the way you're giving notice, which right now is by email, against their accepted procedures - You don't want anything to stand in the way of your exit. And since your exit is your last official act at the firm, you might as well make sure that you're handling it properly.
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If your boss is unavailable, then you send your notice to their boss, cc'ing yours.
If your boss is the owner of the company, and therefore there is no one above them, then you send the notice to the person running things in their absence.
If there is no one running the company while the boss is absent then you just email / text the boss.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
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Almost agree: In that last case, in addition to electronic, I would make sure a paper copy is placed on his desk and/or mailed to him, so you're covered in case someone tries to argue that they need signed paperwork before they can take you seriously.
– keshlam
Nov 26 '14 at 15:28
But, try to talk to them, either in person or over the phone before resorting to email.
– thursdaysgeek
Nov 26 '14 at 16:08
Yeah I'd add in the step of "Try to call the boss at home" before emailing at all, and then send a text/email requesting a call or meeting. If they can't do that, or you can't get hold of them, send your resignation via email, with the same left in paper on their desk.
– Jon Story
Nov 26 '14 at 17:11
1
@keshlam while I'd agree that a written note is a good idea in that case, please keep in mind that when you resign, you're giving notice that you're leaving, not asking for permission to leave. Someone who tried to tell me that I needed to jump through daft hoops under those circumstances "or else I won't take you seriously" would be invited to guess whether their needs are on "RobM's list of things that are RobM's problem" or on "RobM's rather more famous list of things that are not RobM's problem".
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:19
1
@keshlam I agree but at the point someone's telling me "do x or we won't take you seriously" (and where x isn't simply the method of resigning I agreed to in my contract, obviously) then I would certainly be looking to 'work to rule', so to speak, at that point. People who act like jerks get treated like one. In any case, my point was that fundamentally you are giving notice that you will leave, not asking if you can leave. It's an important distinction, and especially so when things turn problematic.
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:25
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show 4 more comments
up vote
10
down vote
If your boss is unavailable, then you send your notice to their boss, cc'ing yours.
If your boss is the owner of the company, and therefore there is no one above them, then you send the notice to the person running things in their absence.
If there is no one running the company while the boss is absent then you just email / text the boss.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
20.9k55695
7
Almost agree: In that last case, in addition to electronic, I would make sure a paper copy is placed on his desk and/or mailed to him, so you're covered in case someone tries to argue that they need signed paperwork before they can take you seriously.
– keshlam
Nov 26 '14 at 15:28
But, try to talk to them, either in person or over the phone before resorting to email.
– thursdaysgeek
Nov 26 '14 at 16:08
Yeah I'd add in the step of "Try to call the boss at home" before emailing at all, and then send a text/email requesting a call or meeting. If they can't do that, or you can't get hold of them, send your resignation via email, with the same left in paper on their desk.
– Jon Story
Nov 26 '14 at 17:11
1
@keshlam while I'd agree that a written note is a good idea in that case, please keep in mind that when you resign, you're giving notice that you're leaving, not asking for permission to leave. Someone who tried to tell me that I needed to jump through daft hoops under those circumstances "or else I won't take you seriously" would be invited to guess whether their needs are on "RobM's list of things that are RobM's problem" or on "RobM's rather more famous list of things that are not RobM's problem".
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:19
1
@keshlam I agree but at the point someone's telling me "do x or we won't take you seriously" (and where x isn't simply the method of resigning I agreed to in my contract, obviously) then I would certainly be looking to 'work to rule', so to speak, at that point. People who act like jerks get treated like one. In any case, my point was that fundamentally you are giving notice that you will leave, not asking if you can leave. It's an important distinction, and especially so when things turn problematic.
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:25
 |Â
show 4 more comments
up vote
10
down vote
up vote
10
down vote
If your boss is unavailable, then you send your notice to their boss, cc'ing yours.
If your boss is the owner of the company, and therefore there is no one above them, then you send the notice to the person running things in their absence.
If there is no one running the company while the boss is absent then you just email / text the boss.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
20.9k55695
If your boss is unavailable, then you send your notice to their boss, cc'ing yours.
If your boss is the owner of the company, and therefore there is no one above them, then you send the notice to the person running things in their absence.
If there is no one running the company while the boss is absent then you just email / text the boss.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
20.9k55695
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
20.9k55695
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
20.9k55695
answered Nov 26 '14 at 14:45
NotMe
20.9k55695
20.9k55695
7
Almost agree: In that last case, in addition to electronic, I would make sure a paper copy is placed on his desk and/or mailed to him, so you're covered in case someone tries to argue that they need signed paperwork before they can take you seriously.
– keshlam
Nov 26 '14 at 15:28
But, try to talk to them, either in person or over the phone before resorting to email.
– thursdaysgeek
Nov 26 '14 at 16:08
Yeah I'd add in the step of "Try to call the boss at home" before emailing at all, and then send a text/email requesting a call or meeting. If they can't do that, or you can't get hold of them, send your resignation via email, with the same left in paper on their desk.
– Jon Story
Nov 26 '14 at 17:11
1
@keshlam while I'd agree that a written note is a good idea in that case, please keep in mind that when you resign, you're giving notice that you're leaving, not asking for permission to leave. Someone who tried to tell me that I needed to jump through daft hoops under those circumstances "or else I won't take you seriously" would be invited to guess whether their needs are on "RobM's list of things that are RobM's problem" or on "RobM's rather more famous list of things that are not RobM's problem".
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:19
1
@keshlam I agree but at the point someone's telling me "do x or we won't take you seriously" (and where x isn't simply the method of resigning I agreed to in my contract, obviously) then I would certainly be looking to 'work to rule', so to speak, at that point. People who act like jerks get treated like one. In any case, my point was that fundamentally you are giving notice that you will leave, not asking if you can leave. It's an important distinction, and especially so when things turn problematic.
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:25
 |Â
show 4 more comments
7
Almost agree: In that last case, in addition to electronic, I would make sure a paper copy is placed on his desk and/or mailed to him, so you're covered in case someone tries to argue that they need signed paperwork before they can take you seriously.
– keshlam
Nov 26 '14 at 15:28
But, try to talk to them, either in person or over the phone before resorting to email.
– thursdaysgeek
Nov 26 '14 at 16:08
Yeah I'd add in the step of "Try to call the boss at home" before emailing at all, and then send a text/email requesting a call or meeting. If they can't do that, or you can't get hold of them, send your resignation via email, with the same left in paper on their desk.
– Jon Story
Nov 26 '14 at 17:11
1
@keshlam while I'd agree that a written note is a good idea in that case, please keep in mind that when you resign, you're giving notice that you're leaving, not asking for permission to leave. Someone who tried to tell me that I needed to jump through daft hoops under those circumstances "or else I won't take you seriously" would be invited to guess whether their needs are on "RobM's list of things that are RobM's problem" or on "RobM's rather more famous list of things that are not RobM's problem".
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:19
1
@keshlam I agree but at the point someone's telling me "do x or we won't take you seriously" (and where x isn't simply the method of resigning I agreed to in my contract, obviously) then I would certainly be looking to 'work to rule', so to speak, at that point. People who act like jerks get treated like one. In any case, my point was that fundamentally you are giving notice that you will leave, not asking if you can leave. It's an important distinction, and especially so when things turn problematic.
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:25
7
7
Almost agree: In that last case, in addition to electronic, I would make sure a paper copy is placed on his desk and/or mailed to him, so you're covered in case someone tries to argue that they need signed paperwork before they can take you seriously.
– keshlam
Nov 26 '14 at 15:28
Almost agree: In that last case, in addition to electronic, I would make sure a paper copy is placed on his desk and/or mailed to him, so you're covered in case someone tries to argue that they need signed paperwork before they can take you seriously.
– keshlam
Nov 26 '14 at 15:28
But, try to talk to them, either in person or over the phone before resorting to email.
– thursdaysgeek
Nov 26 '14 at 16:08
But, try to talk to them, either in person or over the phone before resorting to email.
– thursdaysgeek
Nov 26 '14 at 16:08
Yeah I'd add in the step of "Try to call the boss at home" before emailing at all, and then send a text/email requesting a call or meeting. If they can't do that, or you can't get hold of them, send your resignation via email, with the same left in paper on their desk.
– Jon Story
Nov 26 '14 at 17:11
Yeah I'd add in the step of "Try to call the boss at home" before emailing at all, and then send a text/email requesting a call or meeting. If they can't do that, or you can't get hold of them, send your resignation via email, with the same left in paper on their desk.
– Jon Story
Nov 26 '14 at 17:11
1
1
@keshlam while I'd agree that a written note is a good idea in that case, please keep in mind that when you resign, you're giving notice that you're leaving, not asking for permission to leave. Someone who tried to tell me that I needed to jump through daft hoops under those circumstances "or else I won't take you seriously" would be invited to guess whether their needs are on "RobM's list of things that are RobM's problem" or on "RobM's rather more famous list of things that are not RobM's problem".
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:19
@keshlam while I'd agree that a written note is a good idea in that case, please keep in mind that when you resign, you're giving notice that you're leaving, not asking for permission to leave. Someone who tried to tell me that I needed to jump through daft hoops under those circumstances "or else I won't take you seriously" would be invited to guess whether their needs are on "RobM's list of things that are RobM's problem" or on "RobM's rather more famous list of things that are not RobM's problem".
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:19
1
1
@keshlam I agree but at the point someone's telling me "do x or we won't take you seriously" (and where x isn't simply the method of resigning I agreed to in my contract, obviously) then I would certainly be looking to 'work to rule', so to speak, at that point. People who act like jerks get treated like one. In any case, my point was that fundamentally you are giving notice that you will leave, not asking if you can leave. It's an important distinction, and especially so when things turn problematic.
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:25
@keshlam I agree but at the point someone's telling me "do x or we won't take you seriously" (and where x isn't simply the method of resigning I agreed to in my contract, obviously) then I would certainly be looking to 'work to rule', so to speak, at that point. People who act like jerks get treated like one. In any case, my point was that fundamentally you are giving notice that you will leave, not asking if you can leave. It's an important distinction, and especially so when things turn problematic.
– Rob Moir
Nov 26 '14 at 21:25
 |Â
show 4 more comments
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6
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Worst case: If it is impossible to reach anyone, you send your notice by registered mail to the company address. If the company isn't able to receive the notice, that's their problem, not yours. Imagine the Inland Revenue asks the company for a payment, or the boss is asked to appear in court for some reason. Do you think they'll wait just because your boss decided to go on holiday? They won't.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
gnasher729
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up vote
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Worst case: If it is impossible to reach anyone, you send your notice by registered mail to the company address. If the company isn't able to receive the notice, that's their problem, not yours. Imagine the Inland Revenue asks the company for a payment, or the boss is asked to appear in court for some reason. Do you think they'll wait just because your boss decided to go on holiday? They won't.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
gnasher729
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suggest improvements |Â
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
Worst case: If it is impossible to reach anyone, you send your notice by registered mail to the company address. If the company isn't able to receive the notice, that's their problem, not yours. Imagine the Inland Revenue asks the company for a payment, or the boss is asked to appear in court for some reason. Do you think they'll wait just because your boss decided to go on holiday? They won't.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
gnasher729
71.1k31131222
Worst case: If it is impossible to reach anyone, you send your notice by registered mail to the company address. If the company isn't able to receive the notice, that's their problem, not yours. Imagine the Inland Revenue asks the company for a payment, or the boss is asked to appear in court for some reason. Do you think they'll wait just because your boss decided to go on holiday? They won't.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
gnasher729
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answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
gnasher729
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answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
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answered Nov 26 '14 at 16:14
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Send him an email giving him the notice. Tell him him that you are available for a conversation on the subject any time. If he wants to contact you and talk to you, he knows where and how to find you. At least, until you're gone. Follow up your email with a voice mail in case your email gets snagged by the spam filter of his Inbox. If you have an address for your boss, send him your notice by snail mail, too, by registered mail. The whole point of this exercise is that you are not taking any chances on him not getting the message you're giving him.
If your company has an HR and/or the company has produced an employee manual, review the way you're giving notice, which right now is by email, against their accepted procedures - You don't want anything to stand in the way of your exit. And since your exit is your last official act at the firm, you might as well make sure that you're handling it properly.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 18:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
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up vote
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Send him an email giving him the notice. Tell him him that you are available for a conversation on the subject any time. If he wants to contact you and talk to you, he knows where and how to find you. At least, until you're gone. Follow up your email with a voice mail in case your email gets snagged by the spam filter of his Inbox. If you have an address for your boss, send him your notice by snail mail, too, by registered mail. The whole point of this exercise is that you are not taking any chances on him not getting the message you're giving him.
If your company has an HR and/or the company has produced an employee manual, review the way you're giving notice, which right now is by email, against their accepted procedures - You don't want anything to stand in the way of your exit. And since your exit is your last official act at the firm, you might as well make sure that you're handling it properly.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 18:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
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up vote
1
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Send him an email giving him the notice. Tell him him that you are available for a conversation on the subject any time. If he wants to contact you and talk to you, he knows where and how to find you. At least, until you're gone. Follow up your email with a voice mail in case your email gets snagged by the spam filter of his Inbox. If you have an address for your boss, send him your notice by snail mail, too, by registered mail. The whole point of this exercise is that you are not taking any chances on him not getting the message you're giving him.
If your company has an HR and/or the company has produced an employee manual, review the way you're giving notice, which right now is by email, against their accepted procedures - You don't want anything to stand in the way of your exit. And since your exit is your last official act at the firm, you might as well make sure that you're handling it properly.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 18:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
Send him an email giving him the notice. Tell him him that you are available for a conversation on the subject any time. If he wants to contact you and talk to you, he knows where and how to find you. At least, until you're gone. Follow up your email with a voice mail in case your email gets snagged by the spam filter of his Inbox. If you have an address for your boss, send him your notice by snail mail, too, by registered mail. The whole point of this exercise is that you are not taking any chances on him not getting the message you're giving him.
If your company has an HR and/or the company has produced an employee manual, review the way you're giving notice, which right now is by email, against their accepted procedures - You don't want anything to stand in the way of your exit. And since your exit is your last official act at the firm, you might as well make sure that you're handling it properly.
answered Nov 26 '14 at 18:43
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answered Nov 26 '14 at 18:43
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answered Nov 26 '14 at 18:43
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Related (duplicate?): workplace.stackexchange.com/q/10708/325
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