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First Freelance job; 2 Questions - How much do I charge and, is signing an NDA common? [closed]
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I am trying to take on my first freelance job to develop an application for a retrofitting company.
They want me to build a web application that takes input of existing technology at the institution and suggest upgrades to the existing technology. They then want me to perform some calculations with the data and then export everything to a PDF document which will be emailed to the client.
This was my second meeting with them today. They did not broach the topic of compensation and instead handed me an NDA.
Here are my questions:
- How do I ask them about the compensation and if they are willing to pay me, how much should I charge them?
- Is receiving an NDA common? Is it standard procedure or just sketchy?
I am new to all of this, ideally I would've wanted to get a job working in a team as a software developer intern, since I am still in school, but this is what I have at the moment. I would be obliged if you could guide me in the right direction, maybe share your experiences with me.
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edited Jun 24 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
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asked Jun 23 '14 at 18:46
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closed as off-topic by jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, mhoran_psprep, IDrinkandIKnowThings Jun 24 '14 at 13:52
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- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
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I am trying to take on my first freelance job to develop an application for a retrofitting company.
They want me to build a web application that takes input of existing technology at the institution and suggest upgrades to the existing technology. They then want me to perform some calculations with the data and then export everything to a PDF document which will be emailed to the client.
This was my second meeting with them today. They did not broach the topic of compensation and instead handed me an NDA.
Here are my questions:
- How do I ask them about the compensation and if they are willing to pay me, how much should I charge them?
- Is receiving an NDA common? Is it standard procedure or just sketchy?
I am new to all of this, ideally I would've wanted to get a job working in a team as a software developer intern, since I am still in school, but this is what I have at the moment. I would be obliged if you could guide me in the right direction, maybe share your experiences with me.
freelancing websites first-job
edited Jun 24 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
asked Jun 23 '14 at 18:46
coderMint
4517
closed as off-topic by jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, mhoran_psprep, IDrinkandIKnowThings Jun 24 '14 at 13:52
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
I haven't signed the NDA yet.
– coderMint
Jun 23 '14 at 18:55
Wow, I'm surprised by that. Off the top of my head the only job/contract/whatever I didn't sign an NDA for was when I was a student working at a university or small projects helping family and friends.
– Andrew Bartel
Jun 24 '14 at 15:44
I would look at salary.com to see what other people in your field are making.
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Jun 24 '14 at 15:48
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I am trying to take on my first freelance job to develop an application for a retrofitting company.
They want me to build a web application that takes input of existing technology at the institution and suggest upgrades to the existing technology. They then want me to perform some calculations with the data and then export everything to a PDF document which will be emailed to the client.
This was my second meeting with them today. They did not broach the topic of compensation and instead handed me an NDA.
Here are my questions:
- How do I ask them about the compensation and if they are willing to pay me, how much should I charge them?
- Is receiving an NDA common? Is it standard procedure or just sketchy?
I am new to all of this, ideally I would've wanted to get a job working in a team as a software developer intern, since I am still in school, but this is what I have at the moment. I would be obliged if you could guide me in the right direction, maybe share your experiences with me.
freelancing websites first-job
edited Jun 24 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
asked Jun 23 '14 at 18:46
coderMint
4517
I am trying to take on my first freelance job to develop an application for a retrofitting company.
They want me to build a web application that takes input of existing technology at the institution and suggest upgrades to the existing technology. They then want me to perform some calculations with the data and then export everything to a PDF document which will be emailed to the client.
This was my second meeting with them today. They did not broach the topic of compensation and instead handed me an NDA.
Here are my questions:
- How do I ask them about the compensation and if they are willing to pay me, how much should I charge them?
- Is receiving an NDA common? Is it standard procedure or just sketchy?
I am new to all of this, ideally I would've wanted to get a job working in a team as a software developer intern, since I am still in school, but this is what I have at the moment. I would be obliged if you could guide me in the right direction, maybe share your experiences with me.
freelancing websites first-job
edited Jun 24 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
asked Jun 23 '14 at 18:46
coderMint
4517
edited Jun 24 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
edited Jun 24 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
edited Jun 24 '14 at 9:43
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
68.9k7118254
asked Jun 23 '14 at 18:46
coderMint
4517
asked Jun 23 '14 at 18:46
coderMint
4517
asked Jun 23 '14 at 18:46
coderMint
4517
4517
closed as off-topic by jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, mhoran_psprep, IDrinkandIKnowThings Jun 24 '14 at 13:52
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
closed as off-topic by jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, mhoran_psprep, IDrinkandIKnowThings Jun 24 '14 at 13:52
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – jcmeloni, Jim G., gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings
I haven't signed the NDA yet.
– coderMint
Jun 23 '14 at 18:55
Wow, I'm surprised by that. Off the top of my head the only job/contract/whatever I didn't sign an NDA for was when I was a student working at a university or small projects helping family and friends.
– Andrew Bartel
Jun 24 '14 at 15:44
I would look at salary.com to see what other people in your field are making.
– kleineg
Jun 24 '14 at 15:48
add a comment |Â
I haven't signed the NDA yet.
– coderMint
Jun 23 '14 at 18:55
Wow, I'm surprised by that. Off the top of my head the only job/contract/whatever I didn't sign an NDA for was when I was a student working at a university or small projects helping family and friends.
– Andrew Bartel
Jun 24 '14 at 15:44
I would look at salary.com to see what other people in your field are making.
– kleineg
Jun 24 '14 at 15:48
I haven't signed the NDA yet.
– coderMint
Jun 23 '14 at 18:55
I haven't signed the NDA yet.
– coderMint
Jun 23 '14 at 18:55
Wow, I'm surprised by that. Off the top of my head the only job/contract/whatever I didn't sign an NDA for was when I was a student working at a university or small projects helping family and friends.
– Andrew Bartel
Jun 24 '14 at 15:44
Wow, I'm surprised by that. Off the top of my head the only job/contract/whatever I didn't sign an NDA for was when I was a student working at a university or small projects helping family and friends.
– Andrew Bartel
Jun 24 '14 at 15:44
I would look at salary.com to see what other people in your field are making.
– kleineg
Jun 24 '14 at 15:48
I would look at salary.com to see what other people in your field are making.
– kleineg
Jun 24 '14 at 15:48
add a comment |Â
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Signing an NDA at a job interview is common. It may not be useful for either party - but they're basically reminding you that learning about their company and selling that information to their competitor wouldn't be very nice.
Whether it's legally binding really depends on your jurisdiction. If you are worried, show it to a lawyer - your school should be able to recommend one (or possibly has one for students).
Secondly, compensation. Again, this really depends on where you live. Here's what I'd suggest.
- Take a look at local job adverts - see what people are offering.
- Work out how much you think you need to live on.
- Go to them with a figure ~20% higher than you want.
- If they accept - hurrah!
- If they don't, they'll let you know what they think you are worth.
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
Thank you Terence! Your answer has clarified my approach quite a bit!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:18
I would have gone with 20%-25% more than the average for your market not "what you need to live on"
– Pepone
Jun 24 '14 at 11:01
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up vote
2
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NDA is pretty common - VERY much more so since 2000, and in almost any industry anywhere near technology.
For how much to charge...that, I'm not sure about. I'm going to leave that question to others who are in the software development field. They can tell you what's market rate in your area. TerenceEden's question sounds good.
Also, check with your jurisdiction's tax authority, so that you know if you will be needing to pay any additional taxes yourself, if you're working on a 1099-basis. (Not doing that will come back to bite you, so figure that out now.) Also, if you have to essentially pay self-employment taxes, don't forget to figure that into how much you ask for.
Thank you Leigh! I will get on the tax authority check right away!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:20
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Signing an NDA at a job interview is common. It may not be useful for either party - but they're basically reminding you that learning about their company and selling that information to their competitor wouldn't be very nice.
Whether it's legally binding really depends on your jurisdiction. If you are worried, show it to a lawyer - your school should be able to recommend one (or possibly has one for students).
Secondly, compensation. Again, this really depends on where you live. Here's what I'd suggest.
- Take a look at local job adverts - see what people are offering.
- Work out how much you think you need to live on.
- Go to them with a figure ~20% higher than you want.
- If they accept - hurrah!
- If they don't, they'll let you know what they think you are worth.
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
Thank you Terence! Your answer has clarified my approach quite a bit!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:18
I would have gone with 20%-25% more than the average for your market not "what you need to live on"
– Pepone
Jun 24 '14 at 11:01
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Signing an NDA at a job interview is common. It may not be useful for either party - but they're basically reminding you that learning about their company and selling that information to their competitor wouldn't be very nice.
Whether it's legally binding really depends on your jurisdiction. If you are worried, show it to a lawyer - your school should be able to recommend one (or possibly has one for students).
Secondly, compensation. Again, this really depends on where you live. Here's what I'd suggest.
- Take a look at local job adverts - see what people are offering.
- Work out how much you think you need to live on.
- Go to them with a figure ~20% higher than you want.
- If they accept - hurrah!
- If they don't, they'll let you know what they think you are worth.
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
Thank you Terence! Your answer has clarified my approach quite a bit!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:18
I would have gone with 20%-25% more than the average for your market not "what you need to live on"
– Pepone
Jun 24 '14 at 11:01
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Signing an NDA at a job interview is common. It may not be useful for either party - but they're basically reminding you that learning about their company and selling that information to their competitor wouldn't be very nice.
Whether it's legally binding really depends on your jurisdiction. If you are worried, show it to a lawyer - your school should be able to recommend one (or possibly has one for students).
Secondly, compensation. Again, this really depends on where you live. Here's what I'd suggest.
- Take a look at local job adverts - see what people are offering.
- Work out how much you think you need to live on.
- Go to them with a figure ~20% higher than you want.
- If they accept - hurrah!
- If they don't, they'll let you know what they think you are worth.
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
Signing an NDA at a job interview is common. It may not be useful for either party - but they're basically reminding you that learning about their company and selling that information to their competitor wouldn't be very nice.
Whether it's legally binding really depends on your jurisdiction. If you are worried, show it to a lawyer - your school should be able to recommend one (or possibly has one for students).
Secondly, compensation. Again, this really depends on where you live. Here's what I'd suggest.
- Take a look at local job adverts - see what people are offering.
- Work out how much you think you need to live on.
- Go to them with a figure ~20% higher than you want.
- If they accept - hurrah!
- If they don't, they'll let you know what they think you are worth.
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
answered Jun 23 '14 at 19:16
Terence Eden
10.3k43350
10.3k43350
Thank you Terence! Your answer has clarified my approach quite a bit!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:18
I would have gone with 20%-25% more than the average for your market not "what you need to live on"
– Pepone
Jun 24 '14 at 11:01
add a comment |Â
Thank you Terence! Your answer has clarified my approach quite a bit!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:18
I would have gone with 20%-25% more than the average for your market not "what you need to live on"
– Pepone
Jun 24 '14 at 11:01
Thank you Terence! Your answer has clarified my approach quite a bit!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:18
Thank you Terence! Your answer has clarified my approach quite a bit!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:18
I would have gone with 20%-25% more than the average for your market not "what you need to live on"
– Pepone
Jun 24 '14 at 11:01
I would have gone with 20%-25% more than the average for your market not "what you need to live on"
– Pepone
Jun 24 '14 at 11:01
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
NDA is pretty common - VERY much more so since 2000, and in almost any industry anywhere near technology.
For how much to charge...that, I'm not sure about. I'm going to leave that question to others who are in the software development field. They can tell you what's market rate in your area. TerenceEden's question sounds good.
Also, check with your jurisdiction's tax authority, so that you know if you will be needing to pay any additional taxes yourself, if you're working on a 1099-basis. (Not doing that will come back to bite you, so figure that out now.) Also, if you have to essentially pay self-employment taxes, don't forget to figure that into how much you ask for.
Thank you Leigh! I will get on the tax authority check right away!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:20
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
NDA is pretty common - VERY much more so since 2000, and in almost any industry anywhere near technology.
For how much to charge...that, I'm not sure about. I'm going to leave that question to others who are in the software development field. They can tell you what's market rate in your area. TerenceEden's question sounds good.
Also, check with your jurisdiction's tax authority, so that you know if you will be needing to pay any additional taxes yourself, if you're working on a 1099-basis. (Not doing that will come back to bite you, so figure that out now.) Also, if you have to essentially pay self-employment taxes, don't forget to figure that into how much you ask for.
Thank you Leigh! I will get on the tax authority check right away!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:20
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
NDA is pretty common - VERY much more so since 2000, and in almost any industry anywhere near technology.
For how much to charge...that, I'm not sure about. I'm going to leave that question to others who are in the software development field. They can tell you what's market rate in your area. TerenceEden's question sounds good.
Also, check with your jurisdiction's tax authority, so that you know if you will be needing to pay any additional taxes yourself, if you're working on a 1099-basis. (Not doing that will come back to bite you, so figure that out now.) Also, if you have to essentially pay self-employment taxes, don't forget to figure that into how much you ask for.
NDA is pretty common - VERY much more so since 2000, and in almost any industry anywhere near technology.
For how much to charge...that, I'm not sure about. I'm going to leave that question to others who are in the software development field. They can tell you what's market rate in your area. TerenceEden's question sounds good.
Also, check with your jurisdiction's tax authority, so that you know if you will be needing to pay any additional taxes yourself, if you're working on a 1099-basis. (Not doing that will come back to bite you, so figure that out now.) Also, if you have to essentially pay self-employment taxes, don't forget to figure that into how much you ask for.
answered Jun 23 '14 at 20:23
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Thank you Leigh! I will get on the tax authority check right away!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:20
add a comment |Â
Thank you Leigh! I will get on the tax authority check right away!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:20
Thank you Leigh! I will get on the tax authority check right away!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:20
Thank you Leigh! I will get on the tax authority check right away!
– coderMint
Jun 24 '14 at 0:20
add a comment |Â
I haven't signed the NDA yet.
– coderMint
Jun 23 '14 at 18:55
Wow, I'm surprised by that. Off the top of my head the only job/contract/whatever I didn't sign an NDA for was when I was a student working at a university or small projects helping family and friends.
– Andrew Bartel
Jun 24 '14 at 15:44
I would look at salary.com to see what other people in your field are making.
– kleineg
Jun 24 '14 at 15:48