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There is a cashier position in a local supermarket, but they've said that for the moment they have no male uniforms and that I should try again in the future! The uniform is in my opinion fairly unisex; trousers as opposed to a skirt, plain blouse (which looks like a shirt) and a cardigan. I have no problem wearing this uniform and need the job. I'm fairly slight of build, so don't think sizing should be a problem. How do I stand on this?
job-search discrimination legal
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There is a cashier position in a local supermarket, but they've said that for the moment they have no male uniforms and that I should try again in the future! The uniform is in my opinion fairly unisex; trousers as opposed to a skirt, plain blouse (which looks like a shirt) and a cardigan. I have no problem wearing this uniform and need the job. I'm fairly slight of build, so don't think sizing should be a problem. How do I stand on this?
job-search discrimination legal
edited Oct 10 '15 at 21:03
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5,26611625
asked Oct 9 '15 at 22:36
Nigel
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closed as off-topic by Jim G., Lilienthal♦, scaaahu, IDrinkandIKnowThings, mcknz Oct 16 '15 at 3:55
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- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Jim G., Lilienthal, scaaahu, IDrinkandIKnowThings, mcknz
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Any useful answer would depend on your location.
– Patricia Shanahan
Oct 9 '15 at 22:44
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Thought this was a duplicate of How can I tell my boss the required uniform makes me personally uncomfortable? however on closer reading seems to be the exact opposite take.
– Myles
Oct 10 '15 at 0:36
Depends what country you're in. Illegal in the UK/EU.
– A E
Oct 10 '15 at 8:15
Voted to close: this is not a clear-cut case and you'd be better served with professional legal advice or, failing that, the Law SE.
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Oct 13 '15 at 16:58
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There is a cashier position in a local supermarket, but they've said that for the moment they have no male uniforms and that I should try again in the future! The uniform is in my opinion fairly unisex; trousers as opposed to a skirt, plain blouse (which looks like a shirt) and a cardigan. I have no problem wearing this uniform and need the job. I'm fairly slight of build, so don't think sizing should be a problem. How do I stand on this?
job-search discrimination legal
edited Oct 10 '15 at 21:03
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asked Oct 9 '15 at 22:36
Nigel
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There is a cashier position in a local supermarket, but they've said that for the moment they have no male uniforms and that I should try again in the future! The uniform is in my opinion fairly unisex; trousers as opposed to a skirt, plain blouse (which looks like a shirt) and a cardigan. I have no problem wearing this uniform and need the job. I'm fairly slight of build, so don't think sizing should be a problem. How do I stand on this?
job-search discrimination legal
edited Oct 10 '15 at 21:03
A E
5,26611625
asked Oct 9 '15 at 22:36
Nigel
461
edited Oct 10 '15 at 21:03
A E
5,26611625
edited Oct 10 '15 at 21:03
A E
5,26611625
edited Oct 10 '15 at 21:03
A E
5,26611625
5,26611625
asked Oct 9 '15 at 22:36
Nigel
461
asked Oct 9 '15 at 22:36
Nigel
461
asked Oct 9 '15 at 22:36
Nigel
461
461
closed as off-topic by Jim G., Lilienthal♦, scaaahu, IDrinkandIKnowThings, mcknz Oct 16 '15 at 3:55
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Jim G., Lilienthal, scaaahu, IDrinkandIKnowThings, mcknz
closed as off-topic by Jim G., Lilienthal♦, scaaahu, IDrinkandIKnowThings, mcknz Oct 16 '15 at 3:55
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- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Jim G., Lilienthal, scaaahu, IDrinkandIKnowThings, mcknz
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Any useful answer would depend on your location.
– Patricia Shanahan
Oct 9 '15 at 22:44
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Thought this was a duplicate of How can I tell my boss the required uniform makes me personally uncomfortable? however on closer reading seems to be the exact opposite take.
– Myles
Oct 10 '15 at 0:36
Depends what country you're in. Illegal in the UK/EU.
– A E
Oct 10 '15 at 8:15
Voted to close: this is not a clear-cut case and you'd be better served with professional legal advice or, failing that, the Law SE.
– Lilienthal♦
Oct 13 '15 at 16:58
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Any useful answer would depend on your location.
– Patricia Shanahan
Oct 9 '15 at 22:44
1
Thought this was a duplicate of How can I tell my boss the required uniform makes me personally uncomfortable? however on closer reading seems to be the exact opposite take.
– Myles
Oct 10 '15 at 0:36
Depends what country you're in. Illegal in the UK/EU.
– A E
Oct 10 '15 at 8:15
Voted to close: this is not a clear-cut case and you'd be better served with professional legal advice or, failing that, the Law SE.
– Lilienthal♦
Oct 13 '15 at 16:58
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Any useful answer would depend on your location.
– Patricia Shanahan
Oct 9 '15 at 22:44
Any useful answer would depend on your location.
– Patricia Shanahan
Oct 9 '15 at 22:44
1
1
Thought this was a duplicate of How can I tell my boss the required uniform makes me personally uncomfortable? however on closer reading seems to be the exact opposite take.
– Myles
Oct 10 '15 at 0:36
Thought this was a duplicate of How can I tell my boss the required uniform makes me personally uncomfortable? however on closer reading seems to be the exact opposite take.
– Myles
Oct 10 '15 at 0:36
Depends what country you're in. Illegal in the UK/EU.
– A E
Oct 10 '15 at 8:15
Depends what country you're in. Illegal in the UK/EU.
– A E
Oct 10 '15 at 8:15
Voted to close: this is not a clear-cut case and you'd be better served with professional legal advice or, failing that, the Law SE.
– Lilienthal♦
Oct 13 '15 at 16:58
Voted to close: this is not a clear-cut case and you'd be better served with professional legal advice or, failing that, the Law SE.
– Lilienthal♦
Oct 13 '15 at 16:58
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This is a borderline legal issue. In the US, you can not be turned down for a job based on your sex. They are turning you down because you are a male. Not having a male uniform is their issue, not yours. In my opinion, that sounds like sex discrimination.
You should consult a lawyer in your jurisdiction, if you feel the position is worth fighting for. However, lawyers/courts do cost money and there is no guarantee of a positive outcome. And do you really want to work at a place you took to court?
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
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A cheaper solution is if you have evidence that this is the case a trade union would be interested
– Ed Heal
Oct 10 '15 at 6:11
Difficult legal question. As described, it's not the gender that's the problem, but the lack of uniforms. No idea what a judge or a jury would think about it. Now if the problem is that they have never designed a male version of that uniform and will for the foreseeable future not be able to supply one, that would a strong argument against them.
– gnasher729
Oct 10 '15 at 21:40
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@gnasher729 It is a gender issue. They claim they are not able to hire a male. That is a gender issue. But as noted above, this is a case for lawyers.
– yo'
Oct 12 '15 at 14:22
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1 Answer
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This is a borderline legal issue. In the US, you can not be turned down for a job based on your sex. They are turning you down because you are a male. Not having a male uniform is their issue, not yours. In my opinion, that sounds like sex discrimination.
You should consult a lawyer in your jurisdiction, if you feel the position is worth fighting for. However, lawyers/courts do cost money and there is no guarantee of a positive outcome. And do you really want to work at a place you took to court?
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
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A cheaper solution is if you have evidence that this is the case a trade union would be interested
– Ed Heal
Oct 10 '15 at 6:11
Difficult legal question. As described, it's not the gender that's the problem, but the lack of uniforms. No idea what a judge or a jury would think about it. Now if the problem is that they have never designed a male version of that uniform and will for the foreseeable future not be able to supply one, that would a strong argument against them.
– gnasher729
Oct 10 '15 at 21:40
2
@gnasher729 It is a gender issue. They claim they are not able to hire a male. That is a gender issue. But as noted above, this is a case for lawyers.
– yo'
Oct 12 '15 at 14:22
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
11
down vote
This is a borderline legal issue. In the US, you can not be turned down for a job based on your sex. They are turning you down because you are a male. Not having a male uniform is their issue, not yours. In my opinion, that sounds like sex discrimination.
You should consult a lawyer in your jurisdiction, if you feel the position is worth fighting for. However, lawyers/courts do cost money and there is no guarantee of a positive outcome. And do you really want to work at a place you took to court?
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
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A cheaper solution is if you have evidence that this is the case a trade union would be interested
– Ed Heal
Oct 10 '15 at 6:11
Difficult legal question. As described, it's not the gender that's the problem, but the lack of uniforms. No idea what a judge or a jury would think about it. Now if the problem is that they have never designed a male version of that uniform and will for the foreseeable future not be able to supply one, that would a strong argument against them.
– gnasher729
Oct 10 '15 at 21:40
2
@gnasher729 It is a gender issue. They claim they are not able to hire a male. That is a gender issue. But as noted above, this is a case for lawyers.
– yo'
Oct 12 '15 at 14:22
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
11
down vote
up vote
11
down vote
This is a borderline legal issue. In the US, you can not be turned down for a job based on your sex. They are turning you down because you are a male. Not having a male uniform is their issue, not yours. In my opinion, that sounds like sex discrimination.
You should consult a lawyer in your jurisdiction, if you feel the position is worth fighting for. However, lawyers/courts do cost money and there is no guarantee of a positive outcome. And do you really want to work at a place you took to court?
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
1,83621218
This is a borderline legal issue. In the US, you can not be turned down for a job based on your sex. They are turning you down because you are a male. Not having a male uniform is their issue, not yours. In my opinion, that sounds like sex discrimination.
You should consult a lawyer in your jurisdiction, if you feel the position is worth fighting for. However, lawyers/courts do cost money and there is no guarantee of a positive outcome. And do you really want to work at a place you took to court?
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
1,83621218
edited Oct 10 '15 at 0:29
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
1,83621218
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
1,83621218
answered Oct 10 '15 at 0:09
Keltari
1,83621218
1,83621218
2
A cheaper solution is if you have evidence that this is the case a trade union would be interested
– Ed Heal
Oct 10 '15 at 6:11
Difficult legal question. As described, it's not the gender that's the problem, but the lack of uniforms. No idea what a judge or a jury would think about it. Now if the problem is that they have never designed a male version of that uniform and will for the foreseeable future not be able to supply one, that would a strong argument against them.
– gnasher729
Oct 10 '15 at 21:40
2
@gnasher729 It is a gender issue. They claim they are not able to hire a male. That is a gender issue. But as noted above, this is a case for lawyers.
– yo'
Oct 12 '15 at 14:22
suggest improvements |Â
2
A cheaper solution is if you have evidence that this is the case a trade union would be interested
– Ed Heal
Oct 10 '15 at 6:11
Difficult legal question. As described, it's not the gender that's the problem, but the lack of uniforms. No idea what a judge or a jury would think about it. Now if the problem is that they have never designed a male version of that uniform and will for the foreseeable future not be able to supply one, that would a strong argument against them.
– gnasher729
Oct 10 '15 at 21:40
2
@gnasher729 It is a gender issue. They claim they are not able to hire a male. That is a gender issue. But as noted above, this is a case for lawyers.
– yo'
Oct 12 '15 at 14:22
2
2
A cheaper solution is if you have evidence that this is the case a trade union would be interested
– Ed Heal
Oct 10 '15 at 6:11
A cheaper solution is if you have evidence that this is the case a trade union would be interested
– Ed Heal
Oct 10 '15 at 6:11
Difficult legal question. As described, it's not the gender that's the problem, but the lack of uniforms. No idea what a judge or a jury would think about it. Now if the problem is that they have never designed a male version of that uniform and will for the foreseeable future not be able to supply one, that would a strong argument against them.
– gnasher729
Oct 10 '15 at 21:40
Difficult legal question. As described, it's not the gender that's the problem, but the lack of uniforms. No idea what a judge or a jury would think about it. Now if the problem is that they have never designed a male version of that uniform and will for the foreseeable future not be able to supply one, that would a strong argument against them.
– gnasher729
Oct 10 '15 at 21:40
2
2
@gnasher729 It is a gender issue. They claim they are not able to hire a male. That is a gender issue. But as noted above, this is a case for lawyers.
– yo'
Oct 12 '15 at 14:22
@gnasher729 It is a gender issue. They claim they are not able to hire a male. That is a gender issue. But as noted above, this is a case for lawyers.
– yo'
Oct 12 '15 at 14:22
suggest improvements |Â
7
Any useful answer would depend on your location.
– Patricia Shanahan
Oct 9 '15 at 22:44
1
Thought this was a duplicate of How can I tell my boss the required uniform makes me personally uncomfortable? however on closer reading seems to be the exact opposite take.
– Myles
Oct 10 '15 at 0:36
Depends what country you're in. Illegal in the UK/EU.
– A E
Oct 10 '15 at 8:15
Voted to close: this is not a clear-cut case and you'd be better served with professional legal advice or, failing that, the Law SE.
– Lilienthal♦
Oct 13 '15 at 16:58