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After working in four different organizations as a developer or business analyst role, I have noticed that IT departments and IS departments can be considered second-class citizens, even when they produce externally facing, revenue producing products.
What are some instances in which IT departments have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies?
By strategic influence, I'm referring to the ability to define what the product is and it's scope, rather than just executing commands from other departments.
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asked Sep 15 '15 at 23:33
Kyle J V
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After working in four different organizations as a developer or business analyst role, I have noticed that IT departments and IS departments can be considered second-class citizens, even when they produce externally facing, revenue producing products.
What are some instances in which IT departments have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies?
By strategic influence, I'm referring to the ability to define what the product is and it's scope, rather than just executing commands from other departments.
software-industry human-resources technology
asked Sep 15 '15 at 23:33
Kyle J V
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closed as unclear what you're asking by Masked Man♦, scaaahu, Lilienthal♦, gnat, Jim G. Sep 16 '15 at 16:41
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And what product or service is the web site selling? Is this a company that sells web software.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 0:17
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Dominant? IT is dominant when is is a software company. And even then IT support will not have power for strategic influence in a company. Software product as a subscription is a service.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 3:42
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Rarely as most companies will have product development departments that are separate from IT but I'm not sure you understand the distinction here.
– JB King
Sep 16 '15 at 5:54
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It sounds like you're working in companies where the IT department is a means to an end, rather than the end in itself. Try finding a more focused (probably smaller) company, or one where software development is the core activity. Companies who are trying to sell bread will need IT departments, but that department is there to help them sell bread and will always be second priority.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:30
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Hi Kyle, I would encourage you to read through this link to see what types of questions are on topic here. The section here on "don't ask" suggests polling types of questions are not a good fit. Just because there is a question mark does not make a question a good fit for Stack Exchange. Thanks!
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Sep 16 '15 at 17:32
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After working in four different organizations as a developer or business analyst role, I have noticed that IT departments and IS departments can be considered second-class citizens, even when they produce externally facing, revenue producing products.
What are some instances in which IT departments have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies?
By strategic influence, I'm referring to the ability to define what the product is and it's scope, rather than just executing commands from other departments.
software-industry human-resources technology
asked Sep 15 '15 at 23:33
Kyle J V
105
After working in four different organizations as a developer or business analyst role, I have noticed that IT departments and IS departments can be considered second-class citizens, even when they produce externally facing, revenue producing products.
What are some instances in which IT departments have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies?
By strategic influence, I'm referring to the ability to define what the product is and it's scope, rather than just executing commands from other departments.
software-industry human-resources technology
asked Sep 15 '15 at 23:33
Kyle J V
105
edited Sep 16 '15 at 17:09
asked Sep 15 '15 at 23:33
Kyle J V
105
asked Sep 15 '15 at 23:33
Kyle J V
105
asked Sep 15 '15 at 23:33
Kyle J V
105
105
closed as unclear what you're asking by Masked Man♦, scaaahu, Lilienthal♦, gnat, Jim G. Sep 16 '15 at 16:41
Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
closed as unclear what you're asking by Masked Man♦, scaaahu, Lilienthal♦, gnat, Jim G. Sep 16 '15 at 16:41
Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
And what product or service is the web site selling? Is this a company that sells web software.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 0:17
1
Dominant? IT is dominant when is is a software company. And even then IT support will not have power for strategic influence in a company. Software product as a subscription is a service.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 3:42
2
Rarely as most companies will have product development departments that are separate from IT but I'm not sure you understand the distinction here.
– JB King
Sep 16 '15 at 5:54
1
It sounds like you're working in companies where the IT department is a means to an end, rather than the end in itself. Try finding a more focused (probably smaller) company, or one where software development is the core activity. Companies who are trying to sell bread will need IT departments, but that department is there to help them sell bread and will always be second priority.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:30
2
Hi Kyle, I would encourage you to read through this link to see what types of questions are on topic here. The section here on "don't ask" suggests polling types of questions are not a good fit. Just because there is a question mark does not make a question a good fit for Stack Exchange. Thanks!
– Elysian Fields♦
Sep 16 '15 at 17:32
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And what product or service is the web site selling? Is this a company that sells web software.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 0:17
1
Dominant? IT is dominant when is is a software company. And even then IT support will not have power for strategic influence in a company. Software product as a subscription is a service.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 3:42
2
Rarely as most companies will have product development departments that are separate from IT but I'm not sure you understand the distinction here.
– JB King
Sep 16 '15 at 5:54
1
It sounds like you're working in companies where the IT department is a means to an end, rather than the end in itself. Try finding a more focused (probably smaller) company, or one where software development is the core activity. Companies who are trying to sell bread will need IT departments, but that department is there to help them sell bread and will always be second priority.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:30
2
Hi Kyle, I would encourage you to read through this link to see what types of questions are on topic here. The section here on "don't ask" suggests polling types of questions are not a good fit. Just because there is a question mark does not make a question a good fit for Stack Exchange. Thanks!
– Elysian Fields♦
Sep 16 '15 at 17:32
And what product or service is the web site selling? Is this a company that sells web software.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 0:17
And what product or service is the web site selling? Is this a company that sells web software.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 0:17
1
1
Dominant? IT is dominant when is is a software company. And even then IT support will not have power for strategic influence in a company. Software product as a subscription is a service.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 3:42
Dominant? IT is dominant when is is a software company. And even then IT support will not have power for strategic influence in a company. Software product as a subscription is a service.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 3:42
2
2
Rarely as most companies will have product development departments that are separate from IT but I'm not sure you understand the distinction here.
– JB King
Sep 16 '15 at 5:54
Rarely as most companies will have product development departments that are separate from IT but I'm not sure you understand the distinction here.
– JB King
Sep 16 '15 at 5:54
1
1
It sounds like you're working in companies where the IT department is a means to an end, rather than the end in itself. Try finding a more focused (probably smaller) company, or one where software development is the core activity. Companies who are trying to sell bread will need IT departments, but that department is there to help them sell bread and will always be second priority.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:30
It sounds like you're working in companies where the IT department is a means to an end, rather than the end in itself. Try finding a more focused (probably smaller) company, or one where software development is the core activity. Companies who are trying to sell bread will need IT departments, but that department is there to help them sell bread and will always be second priority.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:30
2
2
Hi Kyle, I would encourage you to read through this link to see what types of questions are on topic here. The section here on "don't ask" suggests polling types of questions are not a good fit. Just because there is a question mark does not make a question a good fit for Stack Exchange. Thanks!
– Elysian Fields♦
Sep 16 '15 at 17:32
Hi Kyle, I would encourage you to read through this link to see what types of questions are on topic here. The section here on "don't ask" suggests polling types of questions are not a good fit. Just because there is a question mark does not make a question a good fit for Stack Exchange. Thanks!
– Elysian Fields♦
Sep 16 '15 at 17:32
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Well, it's easy to provide an example. My small company provides specialised and general IT services to other companies and/or govt depts. So I value my techs and programmers much more than I do the sales and admin staff. And some of the services I now provide were actually dreamed up by the IT.
I'm sure there's other examples, in my country, in general even normal IT are treated with the same sort of deference as managers (except amongst themselves)
answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
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When (and only when) they have good leadership.
There are 284 million results for "business versus IT", so its safe to assume a dichotomy between what constitutes "business" and what constitutes "IT".
Like in all workplaces, people vie for control over pretty much anything, including the product. In some places this falls to "marketing" in some cases it falls to "business" in some place it falls to "IT". In all cases however, it falls under the direction of the individual or area that convinced the head or heads of the company that they are the most capable of leading that charge.
As an employee outside of the management chain there isn't very much you can do to influence it as it is far above your head.
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Dominant? IT is a support organization and is not going to have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies. IT will vie for budget. IT support is not the product of the company. As a friend of mine says we are a support organization and prepare to be serviced.
Even if it is a software company IT support will not have strategic influence. Software development and marketing will decide the direction of the software.
answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
paparazzo
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And therein lies the rub, how a do you divide "IT" and "Software development"? Ask a lot of "business people" and they'd say they are the same thing.
– user9158
Sep 16 '15 at 5:27
@LegoStormtroopr Rub? Pretty simple a developer writes software. So a business person does not know the difference - does not mean there is not a difference. A business person is not gong to have IT in a power for strategic influence even if they don't know the difference. If it is a software company the top business people will know the difference. Really you think any VP at Microsoft does not know the difference? A VP at Acme brick may not know the difference and they are not going to ask IT for input on strategic planning.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 6:13
1
IT looks after computers, network infrastructure, and installed software. Software development creates software for use in the company or for external sale/use. To anyone involved directly in either, the delineation is very clear. It's the difference between a car manufacturer who builds the car to sell, and a car mechanic who services the car for the new owner to keep it running and get the owner where they need to be.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:29
@JON Story , unfortunately some companies bundle infrastructure with development in one department, under a CIO
– Kyle J V
Sep 16 '15 at 11:18
That's definitely common in larger companies where development is a sideline activity - I was just pointing out the difference for the commenter who asked 'how do you divide them' - not all companies do choose to divide them, but that's the difference
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 11:19
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Well, it's easy to provide an example. My small company provides specialised and general IT services to other companies and/or govt depts. So I value my techs and programmers much more than I do the sales and admin staff. And some of the services I now provide were actually dreamed up by the IT.
I'm sure there's other examples, in my country, in general even normal IT are treated with the same sort of deference as managers (except amongst themselves)
answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
Kilisi
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Well, it's easy to provide an example. My small company provides specialised and general IT services to other companies and/or govt depts. So I value my techs and programmers much more than I do the sales and admin staff. And some of the services I now provide were actually dreamed up by the IT.
I'm sure there's other examples, in my country, in general even normal IT are treated with the same sort of deference as managers (except amongst themselves)
answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
Kilisi
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Well, it's easy to provide an example. My small company provides specialised and general IT services to other companies and/or govt depts. So I value my techs and programmers much more than I do the sales and admin staff. And some of the services I now provide were actually dreamed up by the IT.
I'm sure there's other examples, in my country, in general even normal IT are treated with the same sort of deference as managers (except amongst themselves)
answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
Kilisi
94.7k50216377
Well, it's easy to provide an example. My small company provides specialised and general IT services to other companies and/or govt depts. So I value my techs and programmers much more than I do the sales and admin staff. And some of the services I now provide were actually dreamed up by the IT.
I'm sure there's other examples, in my country, in general even normal IT are treated with the same sort of deference as managers (except amongst themselves)
answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
Kilisi
94.7k50216377
answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
Kilisi
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answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
Kilisi
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answered Sep 16 '15 at 5:49
Kilisi
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When (and only when) they have good leadership.
There are 284 million results for "business versus IT", so its safe to assume a dichotomy between what constitutes "business" and what constitutes "IT".
Like in all workplaces, people vie for control over pretty much anything, including the product. In some places this falls to "marketing" in some cases it falls to "business" in some place it falls to "IT". In all cases however, it falls under the direction of the individual or area that convinced the head or heads of the company that they are the most capable of leading that charge.
As an employee outside of the management chain there isn't very much you can do to influence it as it is far above your head.
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
4
down vote
When (and only when) they have good leadership.
There are 284 million results for "business versus IT", so its safe to assume a dichotomy between what constitutes "business" and what constitutes "IT".
Like in all workplaces, people vie for control over pretty much anything, including the product. In some places this falls to "marketing" in some cases it falls to "business" in some place it falls to "IT". In all cases however, it falls under the direction of the individual or area that convinced the head or heads of the company that they are the most capable of leading that charge.
As an employee outside of the management chain there isn't very much you can do to influence it as it is far above your head.
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
When (and only when) they have good leadership.
There are 284 million results for "business versus IT", so its safe to assume a dichotomy between what constitutes "business" and what constitutes "IT".
Like in all workplaces, people vie for control over pretty much anything, including the product. In some places this falls to "marketing" in some cases it falls to "business" in some place it falls to "IT". In all cases however, it falls under the direction of the individual or area that convinced the head or heads of the company that they are the most capable of leading that charge.
As an employee outside of the management chain there isn't very much you can do to influence it as it is far above your head.
When (and only when) they have good leadership.
There are 284 million results for "business versus IT", so its safe to assume a dichotomy between what constitutes "business" and what constitutes "IT".
Like in all workplaces, people vie for control over pretty much anything, including the product. In some places this falls to "marketing" in some cases it falls to "business" in some place it falls to "IT". In all cases however, it falls under the direction of the individual or area that convinced the head or heads of the company that they are the most capable of leading that charge.
As an employee outside of the management chain there isn't very much you can do to influence it as it is far above your head.
answered Sep 16 '15 at 2:31
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Dominant? IT is a support organization and is not going to have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies. IT will vie for budget. IT support is not the product of the company. As a friend of mine says we are a support organization and prepare to be serviced.
Even if it is a software company IT support will not have strategic influence. Software development and marketing will decide the direction of the software.
answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
paparazzo
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And therein lies the rub, how a do you divide "IT" and "Software development"? Ask a lot of "business people" and they'd say they are the same thing.
– user9158
Sep 16 '15 at 5:27
@LegoStormtroopr Rub? Pretty simple a developer writes software. So a business person does not know the difference - does not mean there is not a difference. A business person is not gong to have IT in a power for strategic influence even if they don't know the difference. If it is a software company the top business people will know the difference. Really you think any VP at Microsoft does not know the difference? A VP at Acme brick may not know the difference and they are not going to ask IT for input on strategic planning.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 6:13
1
IT looks after computers, network infrastructure, and installed software. Software development creates software for use in the company or for external sale/use. To anyone involved directly in either, the delineation is very clear. It's the difference between a car manufacturer who builds the car to sell, and a car mechanic who services the car for the new owner to keep it running and get the owner where they need to be.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:29
@JON Story , unfortunately some companies bundle infrastructure with development in one department, under a CIO
– Kyle J V
Sep 16 '15 at 11:18
That's definitely common in larger companies where development is a sideline activity - I was just pointing out the difference for the commenter who asked 'how do you divide them' - not all companies do choose to divide them, but that's the difference
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 11:19
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up vote
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Dominant? IT is a support organization and is not going to have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies. IT will vie for budget. IT support is not the product of the company. As a friend of mine says we are a support organization and prepare to be serviced.
Even if it is a software company IT support will not have strategic influence. Software development and marketing will decide the direction of the software.
answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
paparazzo
33.3k657106
2
And therein lies the rub, how a do you divide "IT" and "Software development"? Ask a lot of "business people" and they'd say they are the same thing.
– user9158
Sep 16 '15 at 5:27
@LegoStormtroopr Rub? Pretty simple a developer writes software. So a business person does not know the difference - does not mean there is not a difference. A business person is not gong to have IT in a power for strategic influence even if they don't know the difference. If it is a software company the top business people will know the difference. Really you think any VP at Microsoft does not know the difference? A VP at Acme brick may not know the difference and they are not going to ask IT for input on strategic planning.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 6:13
1
IT looks after computers, network infrastructure, and installed software. Software development creates software for use in the company or for external sale/use. To anyone involved directly in either, the delineation is very clear. It's the difference between a car manufacturer who builds the car to sell, and a car mechanic who services the car for the new owner to keep it running and get the owner where they need to be.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:29
@JON Story , unfortunately some companies bundle infrastructure with development in one department, under a CIO
– Kyle J V
Sep 16 '15 at 11:18
That's definitely common in larger companies where development is a sideline activity - I was just pointing out the difference for the commenter who asked 'how do you divide them' - not all companies do choose to divide them, but that's the difference
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 11:19
suggest improvements |Â
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up vote
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Dominant? IT is a support organization and is not going to have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies. IT will vie for budget. IT support is not the product of the company. As a friend of mine says we are a support organization and prepare to be serviced.
Even if it is a software company IT support will not have strategic influence. Software development and marketing will decide the direction of the software.
answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
paparazzo
33.3k657106
Dominant? IT is a support organization and is not going to have power for strategic influence in a company, beyond being up to date with current technologies. IT will vie for budget. IT support is not the product of the company. As a friend of mine says we are a support organization and prepare to be serviced.
Even if it is a software company IT support will not have strategic influence. Software development and marketing will decide the direction of the software.
answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
paparazzo
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answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
paparazzo
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answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
paparazzo
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answered Sep 16 '15 at 4:02
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And therein lies the rub, how a do you divide "IT" and "Software development"? Ask a lot of "business people" and they'd say they are the same thing.
– user9158
Sep 16 '15 at 5:27
@LegoStormtroopr Rub? Pretty simple a developer writes software. So a business person does not know the difference - does not mean there is not a difference. A business person is not gong to have IT in a power for strategic influence even if they don't know the difference. If it is a software company the top business people will know the difference. Really you think any VP at Microsoft does not know the difference? A VP at Acme brick may not know the difference and they are not going to ask IT for input on strategic planning.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 6:13
1
IT looks after computers, network infrastructure, and installed software. Software development creates software for use in the company or for external sale/use. To anyone involved directly in either, the delineation is very clear. It's the difference between a car manufacturer who builds the car to sell, and a car mechanic who services the car for the new owner to keep it running and get the owner where they need to be.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:29
@JON Story , unfortunately some companies bundle infrastructure with development in one department, under a CIO
– Kyle J V
Sep 16 '15 at 11:18
That's definitely common in larger companies where development is a sideline activity - I was just pointing out the difference for the commenter who asked 'how do you divide them' - not all companies do choose to divide them, but that's the difference
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 11:19
suggest improvements |Â
2
And therein lies the rub, how a do you divide "IT" and "Software development"? Ask a lot of "business people" and they'd say they are the same thing.
– user9158
Sep 16 '15 at 5:27
@LegoStormtroopr Rub? Pretty simple a developer writes software. So a business person does not know the difference - does not mean there is not a difference. A business person is not gong to have IT in a power for strategic influence even if they don't know the difference. If it is a software company the top business people will know the difference. Really you think any VP at Microsoft does not know the difference? A VP at Acme brick may not know the difference and they are not going to ask IT for input on strategic planning.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 6:13
1
IT looks after computers, network infrastructure, and installed software. Software development creates software for use in the company or for external sale/use. To anyone involved directly in either, the delineation is very clear. It's the difference between a car manufacturer who builds the car to sell, and a car mechanic who services the car for the new owner to keep it running and get the owner where they need to be.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:29
@JON Story , unfortunately some companies bundle infrastructure with development in one department, under a CIO
– Kyle J V
Sep 16 '15 at 11:18
That's definitely common in larger companies where development is a sideline activity - I was just pointing out the difference for the commenter who asked 'how do you divide them' - not all companies do choose to divide them, but that's the difference
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 11:19
2
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And therein lies the rub, how a do you divide "IT" and "Software development"? Ask a lot of "business people" and they'd say they are the same thing.
– user9158
Sep 16 '15 at 5:27
And therein lies the rub, how a do you divide "IT" and "Software development"? Ask a lot of "business people" and they'd say they are the same thing.
– user9158
Sep 16 '15 at 5:27
@LegoStormtroopr Rub? Pretty simple a developer writes software. So a business person does not know the difference - does not mean there is not a difference. A business person is not gong to have IT in a power for strategic influence even if they don't know the difference. If it is a software company the top business people will know the difference. Really you think any VP at Microsoft does not know the difference? A VP at Acme brick may not know the difference and they are not going to ask IT for input on strategic planning.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 6:13
@LegoStormtroopr Rub? Pretty simple a developer writes software. So a business person does not know the difference - does not mean there is not a difference. A business person is not gong to have IT in a power for strategic influence even if they don't know the difference. If it is a software company the top business people will know the difference. Really you think any VP at Microsoft does not know the difference? A VP at Acme brick may not know the difference and they are not going to ask IT for input on strategic planning.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 6:13
1
1
IT looks after computers, network infrastructure, and installed software. Software development creates software for use in the company or for external sale/use. To anyone involved directly in either, the delineation is very clear. It's the difference between a car manufacturer who builds the car to sell, and a car mechanic who services the car for the new owner to keep it running and get the owner where they need to be.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:29
IT looks after computers, network infrastructure, and installed software. Software development creates software for use in the company or for external sale/use. To anyone involved directly in either, the delineation is very clear. It's the difference between a car manufacturer who builds the car to sell, and a car mechanic who services the car for the new owner to keep it running and get the owner where they need to be.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:29
@JON Story , unfortunately some companies bundle infrastructure with development in one department, under a CIO
– Kyle J V
Sep 16 '15 at 11:18
@JON Story , unfortunately some companies bundle infrastructure with development in one department, under a CIO
– Kyle J V
Sep 16 '15 at 11:18
That's definitely common in larger companies where development is a sideline activity - I was just pointing out the difference for the commenter who asked 'how do you divide them' - not all companies do choose to divide them, but that's the difference
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 11:19
That's definitely common in larger companies where development is a sideline activity - I was just pointing out the difference for the commenter who asked 'how do you divide them' - not all companies do choose to divide them, but that's the difference
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 11:19
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And what product or service is the web site selling? Is this a company that sells web software.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 0:17
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Dominant? IT is dominant when is is a software company. And even then IT support will not have power for strategic influence in a company. Software product as a subscription is a service.
– paparazzo
Sep 16 '15 at 3:42
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Rarely as most companies will have product development departments that are separate from IT but I'm not sure you understand the distinction here.
– JB King
Sep 16 '15 at 5:54
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It sounds like you're working in companies where the IT department is a means to an end, rather than the end in itself. Try finding a more focused (probably smaller) company, or one where software development is the core activity. Companies who are trying to sell bread will need IT departments, but that department is there to help them sell bread and will always be second priority.
– Jon Story
Sep 16 '15 at 10:30
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Hi Kyle, I would encourage you to read through this link to see what types of questions are on topic here. The section here on "don't ask" suggests polling types of questions are not a good fit. Just because there is a question mark does not make a question a good fit for Stack Exchange. Thanks!
– Elysian Fields♦
Sep 16 '15 at 17:32