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I have a contract with the company i work for and have been with them five years. Recently the boss wrote a company handbook, many of the points in it I have to disagree with - they also contradict my contract. Do I have to sign?
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I have a contract with the company i work for and have been with them five years. Recently the boss wrote a company handbook, many of the points in it I have to disagree with - they also contradict my contract. Do I have to sign?
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asked Oct 12 '14 at 19:04
Iamsamstimpson
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closed as off-topic by gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, yochannah, ChrisF Oct 16 '14 at 14:36
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- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, yochannah, ChrisF
What is it that you are signing, that you agree with the handbook or simply that you have read it and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents?
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
They asked for one or the other.
– Iamsamstimpson
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
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No they cant make you sign, but they also could choose to let you go for refusing to follow their company policy.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Oct 13 '14 at 8:44
That very much depends on the country. In most of Europe, a contract is a contract and cannot be unilaterally changed. I can't give myself a raise, for instance. Of course, the boss often can make some or all raises conditional on accepting the company handbook
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Oct 14 '14 at 20:37
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I have a contract with the company i work for and have been with them five years. Recently the boss wrote a company handbook, many of the points in it I have to disagree with - they also contradict my contract. Do I have to sign?
contracts
asked Oct 12 '14 at 19:04
Iamsamstimpson
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I have a contract with the company i work for and have been with them five years. Recently the boss wrote a company handbook, many of the points in it I have to disagree with - they also contradict my contract. Do I have to sign?
contracts
asked Oct 12 '14 at 19:04
Iamsamstimpson
1064
edited Oct 20 '14 at 19:03
asked Oct 12 '14 at 19:04
Iamsamstimpson
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asked Oct 12 '14 at 19:04
Iamsamstimpson
1064
asked Oct 12 '14 at 19:04
Iamsamstimpson
1064
1064
closed as off-topic by gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, yochannah, ChrisF Oct 16 '14 at 14:36
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, yochannah, ChrisF
closed as off-topic by gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, yochannah, ChrisF Oct 16 '14 at 14:36
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – gnat, IDrinkandIKnowThings, Garrison Neely, yochannah, ChrisF
What is it that you are signing, that you agree with the handbook or simply that you have read it and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents?
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
They asked for one or the other.
– Iamsamstimpson
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
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No they cant make you sign, but they also could choose to let you go for refusing to follow their company policy.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Oct 13 '14 at 8:44
That very much depends on the country. In most of Europe, a contract is a contract and cannot be unilaterally changed. I can't give myself a raise, for instance. Of course, the boss often can make some or all raises conditional on accepting the company handbook
– MSalters
Oct 14 '14 at 20:37
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What is it that you are signing, that you agree with the handbook or simply that you have read it and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents?
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
They asked for one or the other.
– Iamsamstimpson
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
4
No they cant make you sign, but they also could choose to let you go for refusing to follow their company policy.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Oct 13 '14 at 8:44
That very much depends on the country. In most of Europe, a contract is a contract and cannot be unilaterally changed. I can't give myself a raise, for instance. Of course, the boss often can make some or all raises conditional on accepting the company handbook
– MSalters
Oct 14 '14 at 20:37
What is it that you are signing, that you agree with the handbook or simply that you have read it and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents?
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
What is it that you are signing, that you agree with the handbook or simply that you have read it and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents?
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
They asked for one or the other.
– Iamsamstimpson
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
They asked for one or the other.
– Iamsamstimpson
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
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No they cant make you sign, but they also could choose to let you go for refusing to follow their company policy.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Oct 13 '14 at 8:44
No they cant make you sign, but they also could choose to let you go for refusing to follow their company policy.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Oct 13 '14 at 8:44
That very much depends on the country. In most of Europe, a contract is a contract and cannot be unilaterally changed. I can't give myself a raise, for instance. Of course, the boss often can make some or all raises conditional on accepting the company handbook
– MSalters
Oct 14 '14 at 20:37
That very much depends on the country. In most of Europe, a contract is a contract and cannot be unilaterally changed. I can't give myself a raise, for instance. Of course, the boss often can make some or all raises conditional on accepting the company handbook
– MSalters
Oct 14 '14 at 20:37
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You clarified further that you have the option to sign to indicate either that:
you are in agreement with the contents of the handbook, where the fact is that you aren't, or
you have read the handbook and you are cognizant of the contents of the handbook.
You want to make it clear that you are merely signing that you've read the handbook and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents, even if you have to scribble the sentence on the signature page - You DON'T want to commit to anything more than that at the moment. You should make your boss aware - if possible, before you sign anything at all - that specific passages in the handbook are in contradiction with various terms of your contract, and let's hear what he says about how he intends to resolve or reconcile the discrepancies
answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
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Asking about the signature is missing the most important point.
If you are being presented with a handbook which describes conditions of employment different from those in your contract, you need to discuss those changes in a serious way with your boss right now. It's completely wrong to wait until the issue comes up to try and argue that the policy doesn't apply to you because you didn't sign it.
For example, if your contract says you get 20 days vacation, and the new handbook says everyone gets 15 days, go to your boss and point out that it's a change, and that its hurting you. Be specific and ask what you are going to get for agreeing to go down to 15 days vacation. If he says that the policy won't apply to you, make sure you get that in writing.
It is sometimes worthwhile getting a lawyer to look at anything you sign at work. If there are substantial changes to the terms of your employment, this is probably a good time. Get a few colleagues together and hire a lawyer for an hour. Split several ways the cost isn't that much.
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
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I agree with Vietnhi's answer, but would qualify it with this:
Do not sign the signature page. There may be verbiage there that you don't understand, or do not intend to agree to. Instead, create a document (letter) that has a date, saying that you have received a copy of the handbook (and specify the date of the handbook and its version number, if applicable). Then mention that your contract is what the governing document of your employment has been and will continue to be.
Be prepared to discuss the specific conflicts between the handbook and the contract, and also the parts of the handbook you cannot accept the terms of. Be prepared to renegotiate your contract.
Be aware, however, that your boss may choose to exercise the exit clause of your contract.
I've fought this battle. I won, but in the end, it caused so much acrimony with the VP who wrote the policies it became easier just to leave.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
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This is definitely something I would advise doing. The thing about signing a "I have read and am aware of this" signature is that your boss could use it to try to mean "I will follow these guidelines" instead. Unfortunately since none of us a lawyers, this is probably the safest way to approach it outside of contacting one.
– Thebluefish
Oct 12 '14 at 22:49
The reconciliation part between the two docs has to be done - I'd be pretty peeved if I were asked to sign that I am in agreement with two legal documents that are in contradiction with each other. In addition, a contract is a mutual agreement, No one should be changing the terms of a mutual agreement without the consent of the other party.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 22:59
@VietnhiPhuvan - Exactly the reason I would NOT sign the signature page of the handbook.
– Wesley Long
Oct 12 '14 at 23:55
@WesleyLong I doesn't cost you anything to sign that you have read the document. Signing that you agree with it when you don't - that's something else.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 13 '14 at 0:41
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3 Answers
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active
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active
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6
down vote
accepted
You clarified further that you have the option to sign to indicate either that:
you are in agreement with the contents of the handbook, where the fact is that you aren't, or
you have read the handbook and you are cognizant of the contents of the handbook.
You want to make it clear that you are merely signing that you've read the handbook and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents, even if you have to scribble the sentence on the signature page - You DON'T want to commit to anything more than that at the moment. You should make your boss aware - if possible, before you sign anything at all - that specific passages in the handbook are in contradiction with various terms of your contract, and let's hear what he says about how he intends to resolve or reconcile the discrepancies
answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
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up vote
6
down vote
accepted
You clarified further that you have the option to sign to indicate either that:
you are in agreement with the contents of the handbook, where the fact is that you aren't, or
you have read the handbook and you are cognizant of the contents of the handbook.
You want to make it clear that you are merely signing that you've read the handbook and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents, even if you have to scribble the sentence on the signature page - You DON'T want to commit to anything more than that at the moment. You should make your boss aware - if possible, before you sign anything at all - that specific passages in the handbook are in contradiction with various terms of your contract, and let's hear what he says about how he intends to resolve or reconcile the discrepancies
answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
You clarified further that you have the option to sign to indicate either that:
you are in agreement with the contents of the handbook, where the fact is that you aren't, or
you have read the handbook and you are cognizant of the contents of the handbook.
You want to make it clear that you are merely signing that you've read the handbook and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents, even if you have to scribble the sentence on the signature page - You DON'T want to commit to anything more than that at the moment. You should make your boss aware - if possible, before you sign anything at all - that specific passages in the handbook are in contradiction with various terms of your contract, and let's hear what he says about how he intends to resolve or reconcile the discrepancies
answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
You clarified further that you have the option to sign to indicate either that:
you are in agreement with the contents of the handbook, where the fact is that you aren't, or
you have read the handbook and you are cognizant of the contents of the handbook.
You want to make it clear that you are merely signing that you've read the handbook and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents, even if you have to scribble the sentence on the signature page - You DON'T want to commit to anything more than that at the moment. You should make your boss aware - if possible, before you sign anything at all - that specific passages in the handbook are in contradiction with various terms of your contract, and let's hear what he says about how he intends to resolve or reconcile the discrepancies
answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
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answered Oct 12 '14 at 20:19
Vietnhi Phuvan
68.9k7118254
68.9k7118254
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suggest improvements |Â
up vote
6
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Asking about the signature is missing the most important point.
If you are being presented with a handbook which describes conditions of employment different from those in your contract, you need to discuss those changes in a serious way with your boss right now. It's completely wrong to wait until the issue comes up to try and argue that the policy doesn't apply to you because you didn't sign it.
For example, if your contract says you get 20 days vacation, and the new handbook says everyone gets 15 days, go to your boss and point out that it's a change, and that its hurting you. Be specific and ask what you are going to get for agreeing to go down to 15 days vacation. If he says that the policy won't apply to you, make sure you get that in writing.
It is sometimes worthwhile getting a lawyer to look at anything you sign at work. If there are substantial changes to the terms of your employment, this is probably a good time. Get a few colleagues together and hire a lawyer for an hour. Split several ways the cost isn't that much.
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
41.2k887147
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up vote
6
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Asking about the signature is missing the most important point.
If you are being presented with a handbook which describes conditions of employment different from those in your contract, you need to discuss those changes in a serious way with your boss right now. It's completely wrong to wait until the issue comes up to try and argue that the policy doesn't apply to you because you didn't sign it.
For example, if your contract says you get 20 days vacation, and the new handbook says everyone gets 15 days, go to your boss and point out that it's a change, and that its hurting you. Be specific and ask what you are going to get for agreeing to go down to 15 days vacation. If he says that the policy won't apply to you, make sure you get that in writing.
It is sometimes worthwhile getting a lawyer to look at anything you sign at work. If there are substantial changes to the terms of your employment, this is probably a good time. Get a few colleagues together and hire a lawyer for an hour. Split several ways the cost isn't that much.
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
41.2k887147
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
6
down vote
up vote
6
down vote
Asking about the signature is missing the most important point.
If you are being presented with a handbook which describes conditions of employment different from those in your contract, you need to discuss those changes in a serious way with your boss right now. It's completely wrong to wait until the issue comes up to try and argue that the policy doesn't apply to you because you didn't sign it.
For example, if your contract says you get 20 days vacation, and the new handbook says everyone gets 15 days, go to your boss and point out that it's a change, and that its hurting you. Be specific and ask what you are going to get for agreeing to go down to 15 days vacation. If he says that the policy won't apply to you, make sure you get that in writing.
It is sometimes worthwhile getting a lawyer to look at anything you sign at work. If there are substantial changes to the terms of your employment, this is probably a good time. Get a few colleagues together and hire a lawyer for an hour. Split several ways the cost isn't that much.
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
41.2k887147
Asking about the signature is missing the most important point.
If you are being presented with a handbook which describes conditions of employment different from those in your contract, you need to discuss those changes in a serious way with your boss right now. It's completely wrong to wait until the issue comes up to try and argue that the policy doesn't apply to you because you didn't sign it.
For example, if your contract says you get 20 days vacation, and the new handbook says everyone gets 15 days, go to your boss and point out that it's a change, and that its hurting you. Be specific and ask what you are going to get for agreeing to go down to 15 days vacation. If he says that the policy won't apply to you, make sure you get that in writing.
It is sometimes worthwhile getting a lawyer to look at anything you sign at work. If there are substantial changes to the terms of your employment, this is probably a good time. Get a few colleagues together and hire a lawyer for an hour. Split several ways the cost isn't that much.
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
41.2k887147
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
41.2k887147
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
41.2k887147
answered Oct 14 '14 at 17:52
DJClayworth
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41.2k887147
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suggest improvements |Â
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I agree with Vietnhi's answer, but would qualify it with this:
Do not sign the signature page. There may be verbiage there that you don't understand, or do not intend to agree to. Instead, create a document (letter) that has a date, saying that you have received a copy of the handbook (and specify the date of the handbook and its version number, if applicable). Then mention that your contract is what the governing document of your employment has been and will continue to be.
Be prepared to discuss the specific conflicts between the handbook and the contract, and also the parts of the handbook you cannot accept the terms of. Be prepared to renegotiate your contract.
Be aware, however, that your boss may choose to exercise the exit clause of your contract.
I've fought this battle. I won, but in the end, it caused so much acrimony with the VP who wrote the policies it became easier just to leave.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
44.7k15100159
This is definitely something I would advise doing. The thing about signing a "I have read and am aware of this" signature is that your boss could use it to try to mean "I will follow these guidelines" instead. Unfortunately since none of us a lawyers, this is probably the safest way to approach it outside of contacting one.
– Thebluefish
Oct 12 '14 at 22:49
The reconciliation part between the two docs has to be done - I'd be pretty peeved if I were asked to sign that I am in agreement with two legal documents that are in contradiction with each other. In addition, a contract is a mutual agreement, No one should be changing the terms of a mutual agreement without the consent of the other party.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 22:59
@VietnhiPhuvan - Exactly the reason I would NOT sign the signature page of the handbook.
– Wesley Long
Oct 12 '14 at 23:55
@WesleyLong I doesn't cost you anything to sign that you have read the document. Signing that you agree with it when you don't - that's something else.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 13 '14 at 0:41
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
5
down vote
I agree with Vietnhi's answer, but would qualify it with this:
Do not sign the signature page. There may be verbiage there that you don't understand, or do not intend to agree to. Instead, create a document (letter) that has a date, saying that you have received a copy of the handbook (and specify the date of the handbook and its version number, if applicable). Then mention that your contract is what the governing document of your employment has been and will continue to be.
Be prepared to discuss the specific conflicts between the handbook and the contract, and also the parts of the handbook you cannot accept the terms of. Be prepared to renegotiate your contract.
Be aware, however, that your boss may choose to exercise the exit clause of your contract.
I've fought this battle. I won, but in the end, it caused so much acrimony with the VP who wrote the policies it became easier just to leave.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
1
answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
44.7k15100159
This is definitely something I would advise doing. The thing about signing a "I have read and am aware of this" signature is that your boss could use it to try to mean "I will follow these guidelines" instead. Unfortunately since none of us a lawyers, this is probably the safest way to approach it outside of contacting one.
– Thebluefish
Oct 12 '14 at 22:49
The reconciliation part between the two docs has to be done - I'd be pretty peeved if I were asked to sign that I am in agreement with two legal documents that are in contradiction with each other. In addition, a contract is a mutual agreement, No one should be changing the terms of a mutual agreement without the consent of the other party.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 22:59
@VietnhiPhuvan - Exactly the reason I would NOT sign the signature page of the handbook.
– Wesley Long
Oct 12 '14 at 23:55
@WesleyLong I doesn't cost you anything to sign that you have read the document. Signing that you agree with it when you don't - that's something else.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 13 '14 at 0:41
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
5
down vote
up vote
5
down vote
I agree with Vietnhi's answer, but would qualify it with this:
Do not sign the signature page. There may be verbiage there that you don't understand, or do not intend to agree to. Instead, create a document (letter) that has a date, saying that you have received a copy of the handbook (and specify the date of the handbook and its version number, if applicable). Then mention that your contract is what the governing document of your employment has been and will continue to be.
Be prepared to discuss the specific conflicts between the handbook and the contract, and also the parts of the handbook you cannot accept the terms of. Be prepared to renegotiate your contract.
Be aware, however, that your boss may choose to exercise the exit clause of your contract.
I've fought this battle. I won, but in the end, it caused so much acrimony with the VP who wrote the policies it became easier just to leave.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
1
answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
44.7k15100159
I agree with Vietnhi's answer, but would qualify it with this:
Do not sign the signature page. There may be verbiage there that you don't understand, or do not intend to agree to. Instead, create a document (letter) that has a date, saying that you have received a copy of the handbook (and specify the date of the handbook and its version number, if applicable). Then mention that your contract is what the governing document of your employment has been and will continue to be.
Be prepared to discuss the specific conflicts between the handbook and the contract, and also the parts of the handbook you cannot accept the terms of. Be prepared to renegotiate your contract.
Be aware, however, that your boss may choose to exercise the exit clause of your contract.
I've fought this battle. I won, but in the end, it caused so much acrimony with the VP who wrote the policies it became easier just to leave.
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
1
answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
44.7k15100159
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
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edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
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edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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1
answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
44.7k15100159
answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
44.7k15100159
answered Oct 12 '14 at 22:40
Wesley Long
44.7k15100159
44.7k15100159
This is definitely something I would advise doing. The thing about signing a "I have read and am aware of this" signature is that your boss could use it to try to mean "I will follow these guidelines" instead. Unfortunately since none of us a lawyers, this is probably the safest way to approach it outside of contacting one.
– Thebluefish
Oct 12 '14 at 22:49
The reconciliation part between the two docs has to be done - I'd be pretty peeved if I were asked to sign that I am in agreement with two legal documents that are in contradiction with each other. In addition, a contract is a mutual agreement, No one should be changing the terms of a mutual agreement without the consent of the other party.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 22:59
@VietnhiPhuvan - Exactly the reason I would NOT sign the signature page of the handbook.
– Wesley Long
Oct 12 '14 at 23:55
@WesleyLong I doesn't cost you anything to sign that you have read the document. Signing that you agree with it when you don't - that's something else.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 13 '14 at 0:41
suggest improvements |Â
This is definitely something I would advise doing. The thing about signing a "I have read and am aware of this" signature is that your boss could use it to try to mean "I will follow these guidelines" instead. Unfortunately since none of us a lawyers, this is probably the safest way to approach it outside of contacting one.
– Thebluefish
Oct 12 '14 at 22:49
The reconciliation part between the two docs has to be done - I'd be pretty peeved if I were asked to sign that I am in agreement with two legal documents that are in contradiction with each other. In addition, a contract is a mutual agreement, No one should be changing the terms of a mutual agreement without the consent of the other party.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 22:59
@VietnhiPhuvan - Exactly the reason I would NOT sign the signature page of the handbook.
– Wesley Long
Oct 12 '14 at 23:55
@WesleyLong I doesn't cost you anything to sign that you have read the document. Signing that you agree with it when you don't - that's something else.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 13 '14 at 0:41
This is definitely something I would advise doing. The thing about signing a "I have read and am aware of this" signature is that your boss could use it to try to mean "I will follow these guidelines" instead. Unfortunately since none of us a lawyers, this is probably the safest way to approach it outside of contacting one.
– Thebluefish
Oct 12 '14 at 22:49
This is definitely something I would advise doing. The thing about signing a "I have read and am aware of this" signature is that your boss could use it to try to mean "I will follow these guidelines" instead. Unfortunately since none of us a lawyers, this is probably the safest way to approach it outside of contacting one.
– Thebluefish
Oct 12 '14 at 22:49
The reconciliation part between the two docs has to be done - I'd be pretty peeved if I were asked to sign that I am in agreement with two legal documents that are in contradiction with each other. In addition, a contract is a mutual agreement, No one should be changing the terms of a mutual agreement without the consent of the other party.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 22:59
The reconciliation part between the two docs has to be done - I'd be pretty peeved if I were asked to sign that I am in agreement with two legal documents that are in contradiction with each other. In addition, a contract is a mutual agreement, No one should be changing the terms of a mutual agreement without the consent of the other party.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 22:59
@VietnhiPhuvan - Exactly the reason I would NOT sign the signature page of the handbook.
– Wesley Long
Oct 12 '14 at 23:55
@VietnhiPhuvan - Exactly the reason I would NOT sign the signature page of the handbook.
– Wesley Long
Oct 12 '14 at 23:55
@WesleyLong I doesn't cost you anything to sign that you have read the document. Signing that you agree with it when you don't - that's something else.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 13 '14 at 0:41
@WesleyLong I doesn't cost you anything to sign that you have read the document. Signing that you agree with it when you don't - that's something else.
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 13 '14 at 0:41
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What is it that you are signing, that you agree with the handbook or simply that you have read it and you acknowledge being cognizant of the contents?
– Vietnhi Phuvan
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
They asked for one or the other.
– Iamsamstimpson
Oct 12 '14 at 19:07
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No they cant make you sign, but they also could choose to let you go for refusing to follow their company policy.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Oct 13 '14 at 8:44
That very much depends on the country. In most of Europe, a contract is a contract and cannot be unilaterally changed. I can't give myself a raise, for instance. Of course, the boss often can make some or all raises conditional on accepting the company handbook
– MSalters
Oct 14 '14 at 20:37