Why would recruiters ask “How much would you like to earn?” if the initial pay for all employees is the same?

The name of the pictureThe name of the pictureThe name of the pictureClash Royale CLAN TAG#URR8PPP





.everyoneloves__top-leaderboard:empty,.everyoneloves__mid-leaderboard:empty margin-bottom:0;







up vote
10
down vote

favorite












I've recently been to an interview for a company that had a set pay amounts for each "level" of employees that is based mainly on the amount of time spent with the company. This basically meant that all new employees would be earning the same amount of money no matter what. They still insisted to ask me the famous question of "How much would you like to earn?". What could be the point of asking such a question if it won't really influence the pay of the employee?







share|improve this question




















  • To see how money-hungry you are.
    – TheMathemagician
    Oct 31 '14 at 20:51
















up vote
10
down vote

favorite












I've recently been to an interview for a company that had a set pay amounts for each "level" of employees that is based mainly on the amount of time spent with the company. This basically meant that all new employees would be earning the same amount of money no matter what. They still insisted to ask me the famous question of "How much would you like to earn?". What could be the point of asking such a question if it won't really influence the pay of the employee?







share|improve this question




















  • To see how money-hungry you are.
    – TheMathemagician
    Oct 31 '14 at 20:51












up vote
10
down vote

favorite









up vote
10
down vote

favorite











I've recently been to an interview for a company that had a set pay amounts for each "level" of employees that is based mainly on the amount of time spent with the company. This basically meant that all new employees would be earning the same amount of money no matter what. They still insisted to ask me the famous question of "How much would you like to earn?". What could be the point of asking such a question if it won't really influence the pay of the employee?







share|improve this question












I've recently been to an interview for a company that had a set pay amounts for each "level" of employees that is based mainly on the amount of time spent with the company. This basically meant that all new employees would be earning the same amount of money no matter what. They still insisted to ask me the famous question of "How much would you like to earn?". What could be the point of asking such a question if it won't really influence the pay of the employee?









share|improve this question











share|improve this question




share|improve this question










asked Jun 25 '12 at 15:28









ThePiachu

95511023




95511023











  • To see how money-hungry you are.
    – TheMathemagician
    Oct 31 '14 at 20:51
















  • To see how money-hungry you are.
    – TheMathemagician
    Oct 31 '14 at 20:51















To see how money-hungry you are.
– TheMathemagician
Oct 31 '14 at 20:51




To see how money-hungry you are.
– TheMathemagician
Oct 31 '14 at 20:51










4 Answers
4






active

oldest

votes

















up vote
12
down vote













Typically these pay levels are a range and are attached to the position being filled. So, a 'Junior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 10k to 20k while a 'Senior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 30k to 40k.



Despite having these ranges established, this question gets asked for a few reasons:



  1. To determine if the candidate's expectations are in line with what the company is willing to pay.

  2. As a data point to evaluate in the future if the salary range is reasonable in the market.

  3. If the candidate is really desirable, they could offer a salary higher in the range rather than lower in the range, despite it being for the same position. So, they ask to see if they're an affordable candidate.





share|improve this answer




















  • +0.9 for the good answer, +0.1 for the 'midget flipper' job, for a total of +1.
    – user10483
    Oct 16 '13 at 12:38






  • 3




    @Renan read it again...
    – Dan Neely
    Oct 16 '13 at 17:34

















up vote
7
down vote













The main purpose is to avoid wasting both the candidate's and the company's time if the candidate would not accept an offer at a certain level.



If the position is for 60k, and the candidate's lifestyle demands 80k, it's better to know that up front than to go through the whole interview process only to find this out in the end. It's a pre-filter.



EDIT: Of course, that's the good, or benign reasons they might ask you that question. The bad, or malevolent reason would be to get you to commit to a lower salary than they are willing to pay.






share|improve this answer





























    up vote
    5
    down vote













    To see if the candidate:



    • has reasonable expectations and understands the fixed pay scale system in place.

    • wishes to have a higher salary and would soon move for more money

    • wishes to gain higher pay through internal promotions for doing a good job.





    share|improve this answer



























      up vote
      2
      down vote













      Companies typically have a range of salary for each particular position. They also have a default salary if the interviewee doesn't provide their desired salary. The default salary is generally lower than they are willing to pay for a good candidate. So the trick is to learn what the company's range of salary for the position is and then fit your skillset into the appropriate portion of the range and ask for a little more than that.



      Negotiating your starting salary is a huge part of staying happy in a job. Once you are an employee, your raises will generally not keep up with what the new hires are being hired in at for your equivalent position, so if you start low you will get disgruntled when you find out that people with less skills are getting hired at higher salaries than you are getting. So I don't know why you think it won't matter. You are allowed to make a counter offer to any offer made by a company. If you impressed the person who wants to hire you then you will certainly get more than the standard rate.






      share|improve this answer




















        Your Answer







        StackExchange.ready(function()
        var channelOptions =
        tags: "".split(" "),
        id: "423"
        ;
        initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

        StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
        // Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
        if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
        StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
        createEditor();
        );

        else
        createEditor();

        );

        function createEditor()
        StackExchange.prepareEditor(
        heartbeatType: 'answer',
        convertImagesToLinks: false,
        noModals: false,
        showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
        reputationToPostImages: null,
        bindNavPrevention: true,
        postfix: "",
        noCode: true, onDemand: false,
        discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
        ,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
        );



        );








         

        draft saved


        draft discarded


















        StackExchange.ready(
        function ()
        StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworkplace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2123%2fwhy-would-recruiters-ask-how-much-would-you-like-to-earn-if-the-initial-pay-f%23new-answer', 'question_page');

        );

        Post as a guest

























        StackExchange.ready(function ()
        $("#show-editor-button input, #show-editor-button button").click(function ()
        var showEditor = function()
        $("#show-editor-button").hide();
        $("#post-form").removeClass("dno");
        StackExchange.editor.finallyInit();
        ;

        var useFancy = $(this).data('confirm-use-fancy');
        if(useFancy == 'True')
        var popupTitle = $(this).data('confirm-fancy-title');
        var popupBody = $(this).data('confirm-fancy-body');
        var popupAccept = $(this).data('confirm-fancy-accept-button');

        $(this).loadPopup(
        url: '/post/self-answer-popup',
        loaded: function(popup)
        var pTitle = $(popup).find('h2');
        var pBody = $(popup).find('.popup-body');
        var pSubmit = $(popup).find('.popup-submit');

        pTitle.text(popupTitle);
        pBody.html(popupBody);
        pSubmit.val(popupAccept).click(showEditor);

        )
        else
        var confirmText = $(this).data('confirm-text');
        if (confirmText ? confirm(confirmText) : true)
        showEditor();


        );
        );






        4 Answers
        4






        active

        oldest

        votes








        4 Answers
        4






        active

        oldest

        votes









        active

        oldest

        votes






        active

        oldest

        votes








        up vote
        12
        down vote













        Typically these pay levels are a range and are attached to the position being filled. So, a 'Junior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 10k to 20k while a 'Senior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 30k to 40k.



        Despite having these ranges established, this question gets asked for a few reasons:



        1. To determine if the candidate's expectations are in line with what the company is willing to pay.

        2. As a data point to evaluate in the future if the salary range is reasonable in the market.

        3. If the candidate is really desirable, they could offer a salary higher in the range rather than lower in the range, despite it being for the same position. So, they ask to see if they're an affordable candidate.





        share|improve this answer




















        • +0.9 for the good answer, +0.1 for the 'midget flipper' job, for a total of +1.
          – user10483
          Oct 16 '13 at 12:38






        • 3




          @Renan read it again...
          – Dan Neely
          Oct 16 '13 at 17:34














        up vote
        12
        down vote













        Typically these pay levels are a range and are attached to the position being filled. So, a 'Junior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 10k to 20k while a 'Senior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 30k to 40k.



        Despite having these ranges established, this question gets asked for a few reasons:



        1. To determine if the candidate's expectations are in line with what the company is willing to pay.

        2. As a data point to evaluate in the future if the salary range is reasonable in the market.

        3. If the candidate is really desirable, they could offer a salary higher in the range rather than lower in the range, despite it being for the same position. So, they ask to see if they're an affordable candidate.





        share|improve this answer




















        • +0.9 for the good answer, +0.1 for the 'midget flipper' job, for a total of +1.
          – user10483
          Oct 16 '13 at 12:38






        • 3




          @Renan read it again...
          – Dan Neely
          Oct 16 '13 at 17:34












        up vote
        12
        down vote










        up vote
        12
        down vote









        Typically these pay levels are a range and are attached to the position being filled. So, a 'Junior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 10k to 20k while a 'Senior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 30k to 40k.



        Despite having these ranges established, this question gets asked for a few reasons:



        1. To determine if the candidate's expectations are in line with what the company is willing to pay.

        2. As a data point to evaluate in the future if the salary range is reasonable in the market.

        3. If the candidate is really desirable, they could offer a salary higher in the range rather than lower in the range, despite it being for the same position. So, they ask to see if they're an affordable candidate.





        share|improve this answer












        Typically these pay levels are a range and are attached to the position being filled. So, a 'Junior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 10k to 20k while a 'Senior Widget Flipper' could have a range of 30k to 40k.



        Despite having these ranges established, this question gets asked for a few reasons:



        1. To determine if the candidate's expectations are in line with what the company is willing to pay.

        2. As a data point to evaluate in the future if the salary range is reasonable in the market.

        3. If the candidate is really desirable, they could offer a salary higher in the range rather than lower in the range, despite it being for the same position. So, they ask to see if they're an affordable candidate.






        share|improve this answer












        share|improve this answer



        share|improve this answer










        answered Jun 25 '12 at 15:33









        Jacob G

        4,58241727




        4,58241727











        • +0.9 for the good answer, +0.1 for the 'midget flipper' job, for a total of +1.
          – user10483
          Oct 16 '13 at 12:38






        • 3




          @Renan read it again...
          – Dan Neely
          Oct 16 '13 at 17:34
















        • +0.9 for the good answer, +0.1 for the 'midget flipper' job, for a total of +1.
          – user10483
          Oct 16 '13 at 12:38






        • 3




          @Renan read it again...
          – Dan Neely
          Oct 16 '13 at 17:34















        +0.9 for the good answer, +0.1 for the 'midget flipper' job, for a total of +1.
        – user10483
        Oct 16 '13 at 12:38




        +0.9 for the good answer, +0.1 for the 'midget flipper' job, for a total of +1.
        – user10483
        Oct 16 '13 at 12:38




        3




        3




        @Renan read it again...
        – Dan Neely
        Oct 16 '13 at 17:34




        @Renan read it again...
        – Dan Neely
        Oct 16 '13 at 17:34












        up vote
        7
        down vote













        The main purpose is to avoid wasting both the candidate's and the company's time if the candidate would not accept an offer at a certain level.



        If the position is for 60k, and the candidate's lifestyle demands 80k, it's better to know that up front than to go through the whole interview process only to find this out in the end. It's a pre-filter.



        EDIT: Of course, that's the good, or benign reasons they might ask you that question. The bad, or malevolent reason would be to get you to commit to a lower salary than they are willing to pay.






        share|improve this answer


























          up vote
          7
          down vote













          The main purpose is to avoid wasting both the candidate's and the company's time if the candidate would not accept an offer at a certain level.



          If the position is for 60k, and the candidate's lifestyle demands 80k, it's better to know that up front than to go through the whole interview process only to find this out in the end. It's a pre-filter.



          EDIT: Of course, that's the good, or benign reasons they might ask you that question. The bad, or malevolent reason would be to get you to commit to a lower salary than they are willing to pay.






          share|improve this answer
























            up vote
            7
            down vote










            up vote
            7
            down vote









            The main purpose is to avoid wasting both the candidate's and the company's time if the candidate would not accept an offer at a certain level.



            If the position is for 60k, and the candidate's lifestyle demands 80k, it's better to know that up front than to go through the whole interview process only to find this out in the end. It's a pre-filter.



            EDIT: Of course, that's the good, or benign reasons they might ask you that question. The bad, or malevolent reason would be to get you to commit to a lower salary than they are willing to pay.






            share|improve this answer














            The main purpose is to avoid wasting both the candidate's and the company's time if the candidate would not accept an offer at a certain level.



            If the position is for 60k, and the candidate's lifestyle demands 80k, it's better to know that up front than to go through the whole interview process only to find this out in the end. It's a pre-filter.



            EDIT: Of course, that's the good, or benign reasons they might ask you that question. The bad, or malevolent reason would be to get you to commit to a lower salary than they are willing to pay.







            share|improve this answer














            share|improve this answer



            share|improve this answer








            edited Jun 25 '12 at 17:00

























            answered Jun 25 '12 at 16:46









            JohnMcG

            1,8561818




            1,8561818




















                up vote
                5
                down vote













                To see if the candidate:



                • has reasonable expectations and understands the fixed pay scale system in place.

                • wishes to have a higher salary and would soon move for more money

                • wishes to gain higher pay through internal promotions for doing a good job.





                share|improve this answer
























                  up vote
                  5
                  down vote













                  To see if the candidate:



                  • has reasonable expectations and understands the fixed pay scale system in place.

                  • wishes to have a higher salary and would soon move for more money

                  • wishes to gain higher pay through internal promotions for doing a good job.





                  share|improve this answer






















                    up vote
                    5
                    down vote










                    up vote
                    5
                    down vote









                    To see if the candidate:



                    • has reasonable expectations and understands the fixed pay scale system in place.

                    • wishes to have a higher salary and would soon move for more money

                    • wishes to gain higher pay through internal promotions for doing a good job.





                    share|improve this answer












                    To see if the candidate:



                    • has reasonable expectations and understands the fixed pay scale system in place.

                    • wishes to have a higher salary and would soon move for more money

                    • wishes to gain higher pay through internal promotions for doing a good job.






                    share|improve this answer












                    share|improve this answer



                    share|improve this answer










                    answered Jun 25 '12 at 15:41









                    Michael Durrant

                    9,68122856




                    9,68122856




















                        up vote
                        2
                        down vote













                        Companies typically have a range of salary for each particular position. They also have a default salary if the interviewee doesn't provide their desired salary. The default salary is generally lower than they are willing to pay for a good candidate. So the trick is to learn what the company's range of salary for the position is and then fit your skillset into the appropriate portion of the range and ask for a little more than that.



                        Negotiating your starting salary is a huge part of staying happy in a job. Once you are an employee, your raises will generally not keep up with what the new hires are being hired in at for your equivalent position, so if you start low you will get disgruntled when you find out that people with less skills are getting hired at higher salaries than you are getting. So I don't know why you think it won't matter. You are allowed to make a counter offer to any offer made by a company. If you impressed the person who wants to hire you then you will certainly get more than the standard rate.






                        share|improve this answer
























                          up vote
                          2
                          down vote













                          Companies typically have a range of salary for each particular position. They also have a default salary if the interviewee doesn't provide their desired salary. The default salary is generally lower than they are willing to pay for a good candidate. So the trick is to learn what the company's range of salary for the position is and then fit your skillset into the appropriate portion of the range and ask for a little more than that.



                          Negotiating your starting salary is a huge part of staying happy in a job. Once you are an employee, your raises will generally not keep up with what the new hires are being hired in at for your equivalent position, so if you start low you will get disgruntled when you find out that people with less skills are getting hired at higher salaries than you are getting. So I don't know why you think it won't matter. You are allowed to make a counter offer to any offer made by a company. If you impressed the person who wants to hire you then you will certainly get more than the standard rate.






                          share|improve this answer






















                            up vote
                            2
                            down vote










                            up vote
                            2
                            down vote









                            Companies typically have a range of salary for each particular position. They also have a default salary if the interviewee doesn't provide their desired salary. The default salary is generally lower than they are willing to pay for a good candidate. So the trick is to learn what the company's range of salary for the position is and then fit your skillset into the appropriate portion of the range and ask for a little more than that.



                            Negotiating your starting salary is a huge part of staying happy in a job. Once you are an employee, your raises will generally not keep up with what the new hires are being hired in at for your equivalent position, so if you start low you will get disgruntled when you find out that people with less skills are getting hired at higher salaries than you are getting. So I don't know why you think it won't matter. You are allowed to make a counter offer to any offer made by a company. If you impressed the person who wants to hire you then you will certainly get more than the standard rate.






                            share|improve this answer












                            Companies typically have a range of salary for each particular position. They also have a default salary if the interviewee doesn't provide their desired salary. The default salary is generally lower than they are willing to pay for a good candidate. So the trick is to learn what the company's range of salary for the position is and then fit your skillset into the appropriate portion of the range and ask for a little more than that.



                            Negotiating your starting salary is a huge part of staying happy in a job. Once you are an employee, your raises will generally not keep up with what the new hires are being hired in at for your equivalent position, so if you start low you will get disgruntled when you find out that people with less skills are getting hired at higher salaries than you are getting. So I don't know why you think it won't matter. You are allowed to make a counter offer to any offer made by a company. If you impressed the person who wants to hire you then you will certainly get more than the standard rate.







                            share|improve this answer












                            share|improve this answer



                            share|improve this answer










                            answered Jun 25 '12 at 15:41









                            Dunk

                            1,10278




                            1,10278






















                                 

                                draft saved


                                draft discarded


























                                 


                                draft saved


                                draft discarded














                                StackExchange.ready(
                                function ()
                                StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fworkplace.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f2123%2fwhy-would-recruiters-ask-how-much-would-you-like-to-earn-if-the-initial-pay-f%23new-answer', 'question_page');

                                );

                                Post as a guest

















































































                                Comments

                                Popular posts from this blog

                                What does second last employer means? [closed]

                                List of Gilmore Girls characters

                                Confectionery