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I mentioned I was thinking of applying to Google to a friend I've known for years. He said that he knows one of the technical higher-ups (let's call him "Bob") in Google and gave me his home number.
What should I say when I call Bob at his home address? I don't think I should ask for a job directly, but I should ask if I can send my resume to him, right? What are the proper etiquette and pitfalls here? Could I hurt my chances by saying to wrong thing?
I do feel uncomfortable calling Bob at home, but my friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call. I don't want to let this opportunity pass.
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I mentioned I was thinking of applying to Google to a friend I've known for years. He said that he knows one of the technical higher-ups (let's call him "Bob") in Google and gave me his home number.
What should I say when I call Bob at his home address? I don't think I should ask for a job directly, but I should ask if I can send my resume to him, right? What are the proper etiquette and pitfalls here? Could I hurt my chances by saying to wrong thing?
I do feel uncomfortable calling Bob at home, but my friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call. I don't want to let this opportunity pass.
interviewing new-job
asked Jul 26 '12 at 13:02
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wouldn't it be better if you hand your resumee to bob's friend and have him to send it and call bob ?
– user1544
Jul 26 '12 at 13:32
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I would not contactBobat home. You can email him or call him at the office, but the home number, that is off limits. If you call YOU WILL ( IMO ) burn any chance you have of getting the job AND damage your friend's reputation.
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:42
@Rambound My friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call, is it still off-limits? How could it hurt?
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:15
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I mentioned I was thinking of applying to Google to a friend I've known for years. He said that he knows one of the technical higher-ups (let's call him "Bob") in Google and gave me his home number.
What should I say when I call Bob at his home address? I don't think I should ask for a job directly, but I should ask if I can send my resume to him, right? What are the proper etiquette and pitfalls here? Could I hurt my chances by saying to wrong thing?
I do feel uncomfortable calling Bob at home, but my friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call. I don't want to let this opportunity pass.
interviewing new-job
asked Jul 26 '12 at 13:02
anon
1335
I mentioned I was thinking of applying to Google to a friend I've known for years. He said that he knows one of the technical higher-ups (let's call him "Bob") in Google and gave me his home number.
What should I say when I call Bob at his home address? I don't think I should ask for a job directly, but I should ask if I can send my resume to him, right? What are the proper etiquette and pitfalls here? Could I hurt my chances by saying to wrong thing?
I do feel uncomfortable calling Bob at home, but my friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call. I don't want to let this opportunity pass.
interviewing new-job
asked Jul 26 '12 at 13:02
anon
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asked Jul 26 '12 at 13:02
anon
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asked Jul 26 '12 at 13:02
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asked Jul 26 '12 at 13:02
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wouldn't it be better if you hand your resumee to bob's friend and have him to send it and call bob ?
– user1544
Jul 26 '12 at 13:32
2
I would not contactBobat home. You can email him or call him at the office, but the home number, that is off limits. If you call YOU WILL ( IMO ) burn any chance you have of getting the job AND damage your friend's reputation.
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:42
@Rambound My friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call, is it still off-limits? How could it hurt?
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:15
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wouldn't it be better if you hand your resumee to bob's friend and have him to send it and call bob ?
– user1544
Jul 26 '12 at 13:32
2
I would not contactBobat home. You can email him or call him at the office, but the home number, that is off limits. If you call YOU WILL ( IMO ) burn any chance you have of getting the job AND damage your friend's reputation.
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:42
@Rambound My friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call, is it still off-limits? How could it hurt?
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:15
3
3
wouldn't it be better if you hand your resumee to bob's friend and have him to send it and call bob ?
– user1544
Jul 26 '12 at 13:32
wouldn't it be better if you hand your resumee to bob's friend and have him to send it and call bob ?
– user1544
Jul 26 '12 at 13:32
2
2
I would not contact
Bob at home. You can email him or call him at the office, but the home number, that is off limits. If you call YOU WILL ( IMO ) burn any chance you have of getting the job AND damage your friend's reputation.– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:42
I would not contact
Bob at home. You can email him or call him at the office, but the home number, that is off limits. If you call YOU WILL ( IMO ) burn any chance you have of getting the job AND damage your friend's reputation.– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:42
@Rambound My friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call, is it still off-limits? How could it hurt?
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:15
@Rambound My friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call, is it still off-limits? How could it hurt?
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:15
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Considering you state at the beginning that if something goes beyond the line you will feel perfectly OK when Bob refuses to answer any specific question, I wouldn't hesitate to ask pretty much about anything.
Well, as long as you'd ask such question your colleague, e.g. I don't think asking Bob how much he earns would be proper.
Such attitude relives Bob from any pressure he might face when talking with you, especially that Google, as far as I know, seems to be rather crazy in terms of keeping all the inhouse secrets. At the same time it gives you freedom to ask about any important things without much stress what the reaction might be.
When you start hearing "rather not say" as answers you know that you shouldn't go further in this specific area and ask about something different.
It would also be great if your friend could do the introductions first, before you call Bob, as it will make the whole thing a bit easier for both of you.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
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+1. Get the mutual friend to bring you up, and hopefully set up a time for 'bob' to expect a call.
– acolyte
Jul 26 '12 at 13:20
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Of course you're calling to ask for a job. There's a big difference between saying, "Give me a job right now!" and acknowledging how much you want to work there.
At some point you should get an indication on whether or not your friend made a mistake by giving you the number. Apologize if the Google person is upset.
If all goes well, get a name to send a CV. Ask how long the hiring process would take and what form the interviews are.
3
I wouldn't even call the home number. Why can't Bob's office phone ( or email ) be given, if the friend works at Google, this shouldn't be a problem. Bob should be calling the author not the other way around ( IMO )
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:44
1
@Ramhound My friend is family to Bob and only has a home number I think. I do feel uncomfortable calling him at home, but since my friend already told Bob to expect my call I do not want to let the opportunity pass.
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:23
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First, when you ring Bob, check if he is happy to talk to you about applying to Google. If not, thank him for answering and apologise for taking up his time.
If he is happy to talk, be aware that he will have signed a NDA and anything he can talk about he will probably have to be vague.
Keep your questions brief and vague and limit them to recruitment and advise only.
Make sure you thank him after.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
never cold call someone you don't know like that, rather ask that common friend to set up a meeting...
– jwenting
Jun 11 '13 at 10:09
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
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oldest
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active
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up vote
7
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Considering you state at the beginning that if something goes beyond the line you will feel perfectly OK when Bob refuses to answer any specific question, I wouldn't hesitate to ask pretty much about anything.
Well, as long as you'd ask such question your colleague, e.g. I don't think asking Bob how much he earns would be proper.
Such attitude relives Bob from any pressure he might face when talking with you, especially that Google, as far as I know, seems to be rather crazy in terms of keeping all the inhouse secrets. At the same time it gives you freedom to ask about any important things without much stress what the reaction might be.
When you start hearing "rather not say" as answers you know that you shouldn't go further in this specific area and ask about something different.
It would also be great if your friend could do the introductions first, before you call Bob, as it will make the whole thing a bit easier for both of you.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
3,28011220
1
+1. Get the mutual friend to bring you up, and hopefully set up a time for 'bob' to expect a call.
– acolyte
Jul 26 '12 at 13:20
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Considering you state at the beginning that if something goes beyond the line you will feel perfectly OK when Bob refuses to answer any specific question, I wouldn't hesitate to ask pretty much about anything.
Well, as long as you'd ask such question your colleague, e.g. I don't think asking Bob how much he earns would be proper.
Such attitude relives Bob from any pressure he might face when talking with you, especially that Google, as far as I know, seems to be rather crazy in terms of keeping all the inhouse secrets. At the same time it gives you freedom to ask about any important things without much stress what the reaction might be.
When you start hearing "rather not say" as answers you know that you shouldn't go further in this specific area and ask about something different.
It would also be great if your friend could do the introductions first, before you call Bob, as it will make the whole thing a bit easier for both of you.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
3,28011220
1
+1. Get the mutual friend to bring you up, and hopefully set up a time for 'bob' to expect a call.
– acolyte
Jul 26 '12 at 13:20
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Considering you state at the beginning that if something goes beyond the line you will feel perfectly OK when Bob refuses to answer any specific question, I wouldn't hesitate to ask pretty much about anything.
Well, as long as you'd ask such question your colleague, e.g. I don't think asking Bob how much he earns would be proper.
Such attitude relives Bob from any pressure he might face when talking with you, especially that Google, as far as I know, seems to be rather crazy in terms of keeping all the inhouse secrets. At the same time it gives you freedom to ask about any important things without much stress what the reaction might be.
When you start hearing "rather not say" as answers you know that you shouldn't go further in this specific area and ask about something different.
It would also be great if your friend could do the introductions first, before you call Bob, as it will make the whole thing a bit easier for both of you.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
3,28011220
Considering you state at the beginning that if something goes beyond the line you will feel perfectly OK when Bob refuses to answer any specific question, I wouldn't hesitate to ask pretty much about anything.
Well, as long as you'd ask such question your colleague, e.g. I don't think asking Bob how much he earns would be proper.
Such attitude relives Bob from any pressure he might face when talking with you, especially that Google, as far as I know, seems to be rather crazy in terms of keeping all the inhouse secrets. At the same time it gives you freedom to ask about any important things without much stress what the reaction might be.
When you start hearing "rather not say" as answers you know that you shouldn't go further in this specific area and ask about something different.
It would also be great if your friend could do the introductions first, before you call Bob, as it will make the whole thing a bit easier for both of you.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
3,28011220
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
3,28011220
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
3,28011220
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:15
Pawel Brodzinski
3,28011220
3,28011220
1
+1. Get the mutual friend to bring you up, and hopefully set up a time for 'bob' to expect a call.
– acolyte
Jul 26 '12 at 13:20
add a comment |Â
1
+1. Get the mutual friend to bring you up, and hopefully set up a time for 'bob' to expect a call.
– acolyte
Jul 26 '12 at 13:20
1
1
+1. Get the mutual friend to bring you up, and hopefully set up a time for 'bob' to expect a call.
– acolyte
Jul 26 '12 at 13:20
+1. Get the mutual friend to bring you up, and hopefully set up a time for 'bob' to expect a call.
– acolyte
Jul 26 '12 at 13:20
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
Of course you're calling to ask for a job. There's a big difference between saying, "Give me a job right now!" and acknowledging how much you want to work there.
At some point you should get an indication on whether or not your friend made a mistake by giving you the number. Apologize if the Google person is upset.
If all goes well, get a name to send a CV. Ask how long the hiring process would take and what form the interviews are.
3
I wouldn't even call the home number. Why can't Bob's office phone ( or email ) be given, if the friend works at Google, this shouldn't be a problem. Bob should be calling the author not the other way around ( IMO )
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:44
1
@Ramhound My friend is family to Bob and only has a home number I think. I do feel uncomfortable calling him at home, but since my friend already told Bob to expect my call I do not want to let the opportunity pass.
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:23
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
Of course you're calling to ask for a job. There's a big difference between saying, "Give me a job right now!" and acknowledging how much you want to work there.
At some point you should get an indication on whether or not your friend made a mistake by giving you the number. Apologize if the Google person is upset.
If all goes well, get a name to send a CV. Ask how long the hiring process would take and what form the interviews are.
3
I wouldn't even call the home number. Why can't Bob's office phone ( or email ) be given, if the friend works at Google, this shouldn't be a problem. Bob should be calling the author not the other way around ( IMO )
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:44
1
@Ramhound My friend is family to Bob and only has a home number I think. I do feel uncomfortable calling him at home, but since my friend already told Bob to expect my call I do not want to let the opportunity pass.
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:23
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
Of course you're calling to ask for a job. There's a big difference between saying, "Give me a job right now!" and acknowledging how much you want to work there.
At some point you should get an indication on whether or not your friend made a mistake by giving you the number. Apologize if the Google person is upset.
If all goes well, get a name to send a CV. Ask how long the hiring process would take and what form the interviews are.
Of course you're calling to ask for a job. There's a big difference between saying, "Give me a job right now!" and acknowledging how much you want to work there.
At some point you should get an indication on whether or not your friend made a mistake by giving you the number. Apologize if the Google person is upset.
If all goes well, get a name to send a CV. Ask how long the hiring process would take and what form the interviews are.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:32
user8365
3
I wouldn't even call the home number. Why can't Bob's office phone ( or email ) be given, if the friend works at Google, this shouldn't be a problem. Bob should be calling the author not the other way around ( IMO )
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:44
1
@Ramhound My friend is family to Bob and only has a home number I think. I do feel uncomfortable calling him at home, but since my friend already told Bob to expect my call I do not want to let the opportunity pass.
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:23
add a comment |Â
3
I wouldn't even call the home number. Why can't Bob's office phone ( or email ) be given, if the friend works at Google, this shouldn't be a problem. Bob should be calling the author not the other way around ( IMO )
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:44
1
@Ramhound My friend is family to Bob and only has a home number I think. I do feel uncomfortable calling him at home, but since my friend already told Bob to expect my call I do not want to let the opportunity pass.
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:23
3
3
I wouldn't even call the home number. Why can't Bob's office phone ( or email ) be given, if the friend works at Google, this shouldn't be a problem. Bob should be calling the author not the other way around ( IMO )
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:44
I wouldn't even call the home number. Why can't Bob's office phone ( or email ) be given, if the friend works at Google, this shouldn't be a problem. Bob should be calling the author not the other way around ( IMO )
– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:44
1
1
@Ramhound My friend is family to Bob and only has a home number I think. I do feel uncomfortable calling him at home, but since my friend already told Bob to expect my call I do not want to let the opportunity pass.
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:23
@Ramhound My friend is family to Bob and only has a home number I think. I do feel uncomfortable calling him at home, but since my friend already told Bob to expect my call I do not want to let the opportunity pass.
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:23
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
First, when you ring Bob, check if he is happy to talk to you about applying to Google. If not, thank him for answering and apologise for taking up his time.
If he is happy to talk, be aware that he will have signed a NDA and anything he can talk about he will probably have to be vague.
Keep your questions brief and vague and limit them to recruitment and advise only.
Make sure you thank him after.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
never cold call someone you don't know like that, rather ask that common friend to set up a meeting...
– jwenting
Jun 11 '13 at 10:09
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
First, when you ring Bob, check if he is happy to talk to you about applying to Google. If not, thank him for answering and apologise for taking up his time.
If he is happy to talk, be aware that he will have signed a NDA and anything he can talk about he will probably have to be vague.
Keep your questions brief and vague and limit them to recruitment and advise only.
Make sure you thank him after.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
never cold call someone you don't know like that, rather ask that common friend to set up a meeting...
– jwenting
Jun 11 '13 at 10:09
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
First, when you ring Bob, check if he is happy to talk to you about applying to Google. If not, thank him for answering and apologise for taking up his time.
If he is happy to talk, be aware that he will have signed a NDA and anything he can talk about he will probably have to be vague.
Keep your questions brief and vague and limit them to recruitment and advise only.
Make sure you thank him after.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
First, when you ring Bob, check if he is happy to talk to you about applying to Google. If not, thank him for answering and apologise for taking up his time.
If he is happy to talk, be aware that he will have signed a NDA and anything he can talk about he will probably have to be vague.
Keep your questions brief and vague and limit them to recruitment and advise only.
Make sure you thank him after.
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
answered Jul 26 '12 at 13:16
Amy
1092
1092
never cold call someone you don't know like that, rather ask that common friend to set up a meeting...
– jwenting
Jun 11 '13 at 10:09
add a comment |Â
never cold call someone you don't know like that, rather ask that common friend to set up a meeting...
– jwenting
Jun 11 '13 at 10:09
never cold call someone you don't know like that, rather ask that common friend to set up a meeting...
– jwenting
Jun 11 '13 at 10:09
never cold call someone you don't know like that, rather ask that common friend to set up a meeting...
– jwenting
Jun 11 '13 at 10:09
add a comment |Â
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wouldn't it be better if you hand your resumee to bob's friend and have him to send it and call bob ?
– user1544
Jul 26 '12 at 13:32
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I would not contact
Bobat home. You can email him or call him at the office, but the home number, that is off limits. If you call YOU WILL ( IMO ) burn any chance you have of getting the job AND damage your friend's reputation.– Ramhound
Jul 26 '12 at 15:42
@Rambound My friend is family to Bob and told Bob to expect my call, is it still off-limits? How could it hurt?
– anon
Jul 27 '12 at 2:15