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I'm currently doing my first internship which goes for 20 weeks. After working 2 months here, I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department. One reason, I may want to change the team and find my fit in the company. Having connection with people outside of the team helps the goal. Any advice on how to initiate the connection is appreciated!
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I'm currently doing my first internship which goes for 20 weeks. After working 2 months here, I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department. One reason, I may want to change the team and find my fit in the company. Having connection with people outside of the team helps the goal. Any advice on how to initiate the connection is appreciated!
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asked Jul 24 '13 at 17:38
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This is a fairly vague question - there's a lot of detail, without much clarification of what you're trying to do.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 24 '13 at 20:19
Is your goal to network for purposes of finding out what you want to do should you return to the company? It seems this is what you are asking and if so, I think it's a great question for this site - but right now it is really open and hard to answer.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 25 '13 at 14:45
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I think I had so many items on my mind at the time I wrote this. Your comment summarizes my thought so I am going to change edit it to reflect this in a more clear way. Thank you.
– Nomz
Jul 25 '13 at 15:10
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Much better. Thanks.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 25 '13 at 19:44
You're just getting started man, keep your head down and let your work speak for itself.
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Jul 25 '13 at 21:29
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I'm currently doing my first internship which goes for 20 weeks. After working 2 months here, I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department. One reason, I may want to change the team and find my fit in the company. Having connection with people outside of the team helps the goal. Any advice on how to initiate the connection is appreciated!
team internship
asked Jul 24 '13 at 17:38
Nomz
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I'm currently doing my first internship which goes for 20 weeks. After working 2 months here, I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department. One reason, I may want to change the team and find my fit in the company. Having connection with people outside of the team helps the goal. Any advice on how to initiate the connection is appreciated!
team internship
asked Jul 24 '13 at 17:38
Nomz
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asked Jul 24 '13 at 17:38
Nomz
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asked Jul 24 '13 at 17:38
Nomz
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asked Jul 24 '13 at 17:38
Nomz
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This is a fairly vague question - there's a lot of detail, without much clarification of what you're trying to do.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 24 '13 at 20:19
Is your goal to network for purposes of finding out what you want to do should you return to the company? It seems this is what you are asking and if so, I think it's a great question for this site - but right now it is really open and hard to answer.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 25 '13 at 14:45
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I think I had so many items on my mind at the time I wrote this. Your comment summarizes my thought so I am going to change edit it to reflect this in a more clear way. Thank you.
– Nomz
Jul 25 '13 at 15:10
1
Much better. Thanks.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 25 '13 at 19:44
You're just getting started man, keep your head down and let your work speak for itself.
– Andrew Bartel
Jul 25 '13 at 21:29
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This is a fairly vague question - there's a lot of detail, without much clarification of what you're trying to do.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 24 '13 at 20:19
Is your goal to network for purposes of finding out what you want to do should you return to the company? It seems this is what you are asking and if so, I think it's a great question for this site - but right now it is really open and hard to answer.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 25 '13 at 14:45
1
I think I had so many items on my mind at the time I wrote this. Your comment summarizes my thought so I am going to change edit it to reflect this in a more clear way. Thank you.
– Nomz
Jul 25 '13 at 15:10
1
Much better. Thanks.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 25 '13 at 19:44
You're just getting started man, keep your head down and let your work speak for itself.
– Andrew Bartel
Jul 25 '13 at 21:29
1
1
This is a fairly vague question - there's a lot of detail, without much clarification of what you're trying to do.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 24 '13 at 20:19
This is a fairly vague question - there's a lot of detail, without much clarification of what you're trying to do.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 24 '13 at 20:19
Is your goal to network for purposes of finding out what you want to do should you return to the company? It seems this is what you are asking and if so, I think it's a great question for this site - but right now it is really open and hard to answer.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 25 '13 at 14:45
Is your goal to network for purposes of finding out what you want to do should you return to the company? It seems this is what you are asking and if so, I think it's a great question for this site - but right now it is really open and hard to answer.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 25 '13 at 14:45
1
1
I think I had so many items on my mind at the time I wrote this. Your comment summarizes my thought so I am going to change edit it to reflect this in a more clear way. Thank you.
– Nomz
Jul 25 '13 at 15:10
I think I had so many items on my mind at the time I wrote this. Your comment summarizes my thought so I am going to change edit it to reflect this in a more clear way. Thank you.
– Nomz
Jul 25 '13 at 15:10
1
1
Much better. Thanks.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 25 '13 at 19:44
Much better. Thanks.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 25 '13 at 19:44
You're just getting started man, keep your head down and let your work speak for itself.
– Andrew Bartel
Jul 25 '13 at 21:29
You're just getting started man, keep your head down and let your work speak for itself.
– Andrew Bartel
Jul 25 '13 at 21:29
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Great question. This is a case where the intern and the company both have the same longer term interests. You, as the intern, want to figure out what YOU want to do longer term. The company wants to find people interested, able, and excited to work fulltime.
I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department.
There are a couple ways you can approach this.
Request to job shadow. Ask your supervisor, "I am enjoying the work I am doing, but haven't really been exposed to what others are doing here - can I reach out and job shadow some other groups to see what they do?" You may be able to even get recommendations from your supervisor on who to talk with
Talk with other interns. If there are lots of interns, you all can easily discuss your work and groups. This also can help get contacts if your supervisor doesn't really know anyone.
Larger social lunches. If you feel more adventurous, coordinate either an on/offsite lunch as a social event. This is an easy way for you to meet people (someone has to be the contact person for everyone!)
Networking lunches. My company HR coordinates monthly networking lunches, which basically put random groups of 4 together each month to get lunch. This works wonderfully, you might check if your company has anything similar.
Randomly introduce yourself to people. I once worked in a desk next to some "traveler desks" where people would stop by if they were onsite, but generally didn't work onsite. I normally would introduce myself to these people, because I am friendly, and slowly realized I was building a network of people I knew. This can help, because you get exposure and can easily ask "oh, what do you do?" in those conversations. People like to talk about themselves.
answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
Elysian Fields♦
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You gave the best answer break down. and hit the most important parts. Thank you. I kinda have been doing some of those but need to do more and better.
– Nomz
Aug 1 '13 at 19:38
@Nomz glad I could help!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 2 '13 at 0:00
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May I suggest taking a step back and considering what is good and bad about your current role so that you could know if other roles will be a better fit? For as much as you want to go to another team, how confident are you that you won't find similar issues over there? Give serious consideration as to why you want to be in a different team, what isn't working in your current situation and what kind of ideal work environment you want. In wanting to switch teams you may well be asked, "Why do you want to switch teams?" and saying that you aren't happy with your current team isn't likely going to go over well as a good reason for moving you around. There is something to be said for working out a bit of strategy rather than just thinking you can blindly do what you want. Those first roles will usually have struggles like understanding the process and seeing how things are done in the real world. While on the one hand you got a bit of a wake-up call, I wonder how well do you know where you want to be? Do you want to be doing systems administration? Analysis of some kind? Project management? There are various roles and you'd better be able to explain why you want to shift into something else so that it makes sense to management and HR as they may well have to approve such shifts.
Some companies will use older technologies as they have to support existing systems and new systems aren't necessarily that easy to build. Start-ups may be better if you want to work with the cutting edge technologies but be aware that this could mean other trade-offs versus working in a large company like you are now. Additionally, some processes may be in a state of being changed on a regular basis and thus it is possible to occasionally see people struggling on finding ways to change the process to be more efficient and better.
Depending on your location, there may be various technical groups and clubs that would be a way to build a network. Consider sites like Meetup and groups on LinkedIn as a couple of ideas for where you could go to find others working in the field. I know of various groups around me in Calgary, Alberta though I don't know how well that applies to you as you don't state where you are. Fortune 100 companies may well have offices in many cities around the world.
Lastly, it may be worth talking to some of your colleagues to get an idea of how they view your work. Would any of them be a good reference? Would they vouch you are a good worker that should be given a transfer? How much longer is your internship? You need to get an idea of how do others see you as one point here. As for building the relationship, there are a few parts to this:
At work, on the job - Are there people you work with regularly in your development? How well do you associate with these people? Do you help them with their work? Do you learn from them?
At work, off the job - Do you take breaks with co-workers? Do you have lunch with co-workers? There can be something to be said for hanging out with co-workers to get to know them and build various bonds.
Away from work - Have you thought about socializing away from work with some of the co-workers? Perhaps some will go to a bar sometime during the week that can be another opportunity to get to know them. Perhaps you could go see a movie with these people? There are various ideas here for how to spend time with people that may work.
Social media - Could you be friends with these people on sites like Facebook, LinkedIn, or Twitter? This is an idea and depending on what you post there and how you use these sites, this can vary as an idea but it is something to consider.
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
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Thanks for your answer. Id say bad things in my team are that, we are given a project with constantly changing requirements which is making everyone frustrated and having a project manager that is not very good at what he does. As an intern I need some lifting to get myself up to speed but every try has been a fial. I am given tasks that are going to give me some knowledge but mostly they have vague goals. I have been using a team member for a person to go to and ask questions but I don't feel good taking too much of his time. Also, I want to give different areas a try to find my fit.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:12
The constantly changing requirements is likely to be common so that may not be easy to find a team that doesn't have that issue. As for the idea of someone helping you get up to speed, there are limits to that as well as the question of how well could you articulate what format do you best absorb new information and ideas. While I could support the wanting to try different areas, I'd likely consider asking about how would it be seen to change teams as it may go over badly as you could be seen as picky or fussy that may not work out well in the long run.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:17
I understand what you are saying in terms of being picky. I haven't complained to anybody yet, it's just something that is going in my mind so I need to find some ways to solve this issue so I won't be 'that guy'. As far as changing requirements, I am talking about high level requirements which defines the project. I like to read and watch video tutorials to learn about new things but in my case, the online community for the technologies that they use is fairly small. I find myself to pick up on topic at school fairly well but I am struggling here since I have much limited resources.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:26
This is where you may have to be creative about finding resources and in some cases possibly building your own as it can be that you'll likely have to learn things on your own versus a classroom setting. This is part of the difference between academia and the real world.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:30
true. I appreciate your time. Your answers gave me some perspective that I need to look at differently.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:40
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Look around for your "mentors", not just the official mentors or managers but employees that are on the same project as you, but are also on other projects. Ask them questions about these other projects. Ask if you can attend a meeting or read some documents about the project or the technology they are using. After a while you might even ask them to introduce you to members of the other team.
The enhanced level of interaction with team members, if not done to the level of stalking, can make a positive impression. You want to be interested in more than your assigned task so that you can appear to be interested in learning. The interactions with members of other teams will help spread you contacts into other parts of the company.
The corporation as a whole wants to be able to find a position for interns that they view as capable. Yes, the project you are assigned to work with as an intern may expect you to work for them after graduation, but that might not even be possible.
I have seen interns assigned to projects that had short term needs but no definite long term need. Others were able to use interns because their department had funding available. Depending on the time left to graduation the team might not even exist when you are ready to become a full time employee.
A goal for your internship is to be able to make a positive impression to several people in the company, so that they can be used as a direct or indirect reference for a job. You don't want to walk away with a hundred business cards from people that will not remember you next year. But I hand full of LinkedIn contacts from people who will remember you, can help you when you are looking for a job.
You want to have away to contact these people besides via company email. You access to the address list will disappear at the end of you relationship with the company. Also if they leave the company you have no way of asking them for help. I wouldn't use social media that isn't geared for business, because it is generally not advisable to friend your work contacts on these platforms.
answered Jul 28 '13 at 15:21
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Great question. This is a case where the intern and the company both have the same longer term interests. You, as the intern, want to figure out what YOU want to do longer term. The company wants to find people interested, able, and excited to work fulltime.
I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department.
There are a couple ways you can approach this.
Request to job shadow. Ask your supervisor, "I am enjoying the work I am doing, but haven't really been exposed to what others are doing here - can I reach out and job shadow some other groups to see what they do?" You may be able to even get recommendations from your supervisor on who to talk with
Talk with other interns. If there are lots of interns, you all can easily discuss your work and groups. This also can help get contacts if your supervisor doesn't really know anyone.
Larger social lunches. If you feel more adventurous, coordinate either an on/offsite lunch as a social event. This is an easy way for you to meet people (someone has to be the contact person for everyone!)
Networking lunches. My company HR coordinates monthly networking lunches, which basically put random groups of 4 together each month to get lunch. This works wonderfully, you might check if your company has anything similar.
Randomly introduce yourself to people. I once worked in a desk next to some "traveler desks" where people would stop by if they were onsite, but generally didn't work onsite. I normally would introduce myself to these people, because I am friendly, and slowly realized I was building a network of people I knew. This can help, because you get exposure and can easily ask "oh, what do you do?" in those conversations. People like to talk about themselves.
answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
Elysian Fields♦
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You gave the best answer break down. and hit the most important parts. Thank you. I kinda have been doing some of those but need to do more and better.
– Nomz
Aug 1 '13 at 19:38
@Nomz glad I could help!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 2 '13 at 0:00
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up vote
7
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accepted
Great question. This is a case where the intern and the company both have the same longer term interests. You, as the intern, want to figure out what YOU want to do longer term. The company wants to find people interested, able, and excited to work fulltime.
I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department.
There are a couple ways you can approach this.
Request to job shadow. Ask your supervisor, "I am enjoying the work I am doing, but haven't really been exposed to what others are doing here - can I reach out and job shadow some other groups to see what they do?" You may be able to even get recommendations from your supervisor on who to talk with
Talk with other interns. If there are lots of interns, you all can easily discuss your work and groups. This also can help get contacts if your supervisor doesn't really know anyone.
Larger social lunches. If you feel more adventurous, coordinate either an on/offsite lunch as a social event. This is an easy way for you to meet people (someone has to be the contact person for everyone!)
Networking lunches. My company HR coordinates monthly networking lunches, which basically put random groups of 4 together each month to get lunch. This works wonderfully, you might check if your company has anything similar.
Randomly introduce yourself to people. I once worked in a desk next to some "traveler desks" where people would stop by if they were onsite, but generally didn't work onsite. I normally would introduce myself to these people, because I am friendly, and slowly realized I was building a network of people I knew. This can help, because you get exposure and can easily ask "oh, what do you do?" in those conversations. People like to talk about themselves.
answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
Elysian Fields♦
96.9k46292449
You gave the best answer break down. and hit the most important parts. Thank you. I kinda have been doing some of those but need to do more and better.
– Nomz
Aug 1 '13 at 19:38
@Nomz glad I could help!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 2 '13 at 0:00
add a comment |Â
up vote
7
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up vote
7
down vote
accepted
Great question. This is a case where the intern and the company both have the same longer term interests. You, as the intern, want to figure out what YOU want to do longer term. The company wants to find people interested, able, and excited to work fulltime.
I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department.
There are a couple ways you can approach this.
Request to job shadow. Ask your supervisor, "I am enjoying the work I am doing, but haven't really been exposed to what others are doing here - can I reach out and job shadow some other groups to see what they do?" You may be able to even get recommendations from your supervisor on who to talk with
Talk with other interns. If there are lots of interns, you all can easily discuss your work and groups. This also can help get contacts if your supervisor doesn't really know anyone.
Larger social lunches. If you feel more adventurous, coordinate either an on/offsite lunch as a social event. This is an easy way for you to meet people (someone has to be the contact person for everyone!)
Networking lunches. My company HR coordinates monthly networking lunches, which basically put random groups of 4 together each month to get lunch. This works wonderfully, you might check if your company has anything similar.
Randomly introduce yourself to people. I once worked in a desk next to some "traveler desks" where people would stop by if they were onsite, but generally didn't work onsite. I normally would introduce myself to these people, because I am friendly, and slowly realized I was building a network of people I knew. This can help, because you get exposure and can easily ask "oh, what do you do?" in those conversations. People like to talk about themselves.
answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
Elysian Fields♦
96.9k46292449
Great question. This is a case where the intern and the company both have the same longer term interests. You, as the intern, want to figure out what YOU want to do longer term. The company wants to find people interested, able, and excited to work fulltime.
I feel like I don't have enough connections ( I know the team members that work in the same office) but I'm looking to have more connection with other people on the floor or in the department.
There are a couple ways you can approach this.
Request to job shadow. Ask your supervisor, "I am enjoying the work I am doing, but haven't really been exposed to what others are doing here - can I reach out and job shadow some other groups to see what they do?" You may be able to even get recommendations from your supervisor on who to talk with
Talk with other interns. If there are lots of interns, you all can easily discuss your work and groups. This also can help get contacts if your supervisor doesn't really know anyone.
Larger social lunches. If you feel more adventurous, coordinate either an on/offsite lunch as a social event. This is an easy way for you to meet people (someone has to be the contact person for everyone!)
Networking lunches. My company HR coordinates monthly networking lunches, which basically put random groups of 4 together each month to get lunch. This works wonderfully, you might check if your company has anything similar.
Randomly introduce yourself to people. I once worked in a desk next to some "traveler desks" where people would stop by if they were onsite, but generally didn't work onsite. I normally would introduce myself to these people, because I am friendly, and slowly realized I was building a network of people I knew. This can help, because you get exposure and can easily ask "oh, what do you do?" in those conversations. People like to talk about themselves.
answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
Elysian Fields♦
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answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
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answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
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answered Jul 26 '13 at 13:54
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You gave the best answer break down. and hit the most important parts. Thank you. I kinda have been doing some of those but need to do more and better.
– Nomz
Aug 1 '13 at 19:38
@Nomz glad I could help!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 2 '13 at 0:00
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You gave the best answer break down. and hit the most important parts. Thank you. I kinda have been doing some of those but need to do more and better.
– Nomz
Aug 1 '13 at 19:38
@Nomz glad I could help!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 2 '13 at 0:00
You gave the best answer break down. and hit the most important parts. Thank you. I kinda have been doing some of those but need to do more and better.
– Nomz
Aug 1 '13 at 19:38
You gave the best answer break down. and hit the most important parts. Thank you. I kinda have been doing some of those but need to do more and better.
– Nomz
Aug 1 '13 at 19:38
@Nomz glad I could help!
– Elysian Fields♦
Aug 2 '13 at 0:00
@Nomz glad I could help!
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Aug 2 '13 at 0:00
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May I suggest taking a step back and considering what is good and bad about your current role so that you could know if other roles will be a better fit? For as much as you want to go to another team, how confident are you that you won't find similar issues over there? Give serious consideration as to why you want to be in a different team, what isn't working in your current situation and what kind of ideal work environment you want. In wanting to switch teams you may well be asked, "Why do you want to switch teams?" and saying that you aren't happy with your current team isn't likely going to go over well as a good reason for moving you around. There is something to be said for working out a bit of strategy rather than just thinking you can blindly do what you want. Those first roles will usually have struggles like understanding the process and seeing how things are done in the real world. While on the one hand you got a bit of a wake-up call, I wonder how well do you know where you want to be? Do you want to be doing systems administration? Analysis of some kind? Project management? There are various roles and you'd better be able to explain why you want to shift into something else so that it makes sense to management and HR as they may well have to approve such shifts.
Some companies will use older technologies as they have to support existing systems and new systems aren't necessarily that easy to build. Start-ups may be better if you want to work with the cutting edge technologies but be aware that this could mean other trade-offs versus working in a large company like you are now. Additionally, some processes may be in a state of being changed on a regular basis and thus it is possible to occasionally see people struggling on finding ways to change the process to be more efficient and better.
Depending on your location, there may be various technical groups and clubs that would be a way to build a network. Consider sites like Meetup and groups on LinkedIn as a couple of ideas for where you could go to find others working in the field. I know of various groups around me in Calgary, Alberta though I don't know how well that applies to you as you don't state where you are. Fortune 100 companies may well have offices in many cities around the world.
Lastly, it may be worth talking to some of your colleagues to get an idea of how they view your work. Would any of them be a good reference? Would they vouch you are a good worker that should be given a transfer? How much longer is your internship? You need to get an idea of how do others see you as one point here. As for building the relationship, there are a few parts to this:
At work, on the job - Are there people you work with regularly in your development? How well do you associate with these people? Do you help them with their work? Do you learn from them?
At work, off the job - Do you take breaks with co-workers? Do you have lunch with co-workers? There can be something to be said for hanging out with co-workers to get to know them and build various bonds.
Away from work - Have you thought about socializing away from work with some of the co-workers? Perhaps some will go to a bar sometime during the week that can be another opportunity to get to know them. Perhaps you could go see a movie with these people? There are various ideas here for how to spend time with people that may work.
Social media - Could you be friends with these people on sites like Facebook, LinkedIn, or Twitter? This is an idea and depending on what you post there and how you use these sites, this can vary as an idea but it is something to consider.
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
15.1k22957
Thanks for your answer. Id say bad things in my team are that, we are given a project with constantly changing requirements which is making everyone frustrated and having a project manager that is not very good at what he does. As an intern I need some lifting to get myself up to speed but every try has been a fial. I am given tasks that are going to give me some knowledge but mostly they have vague goals. I have been using a team member for a person to go to and ask questions but I don't feel good taking too much of his time. Also, I want to give different areas a try to find my fit.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:12
The constantly changing requirements is likely to be common so that may not be easy to find a team that doesn't have that issue. As for the idea of someone helping you get up to speed, there are limits to that as well as the question of how well could you articulate what format do you best absorb new information and ideas. While I could support the wanting to try different areas, I'd likely consider asking about how would it be seen to change teams as it may go over badly as you could be seen as picky or fussy that may not work out well in the long run.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:17
I understand what you are saying in terms of being picky. I haven't complained to anybody yet, it's just something that is going in my mind so I need to find some ways to solve this issue so I won't be 'that guy'. As far as changing requirements, I am talking about high level requirements which defines the project. I like to read and watch video tutorials to learn about new things but in my case, the online community for the technologies that they use is fairly small. I find myself to pick up on topic at school fairly well but I am struggling here since I have much limited resources.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:26
This is where you may have to be creative about finding resources and in some cases possibly building your own as it can be that you'll likely have to learn things on your own versus a classroom setting. This is part of the difference between academia and the real world.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:30
true. I appreciate your time. Your answers gave me some perspective that I need to look at differently.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
May I suggest taking a step back and considering what is good and bad about your current role so that you could know if other roles will be a better fit? For as much as you want to go to another team, how confident are you that you won't find similar issues over there? Give serious consideration as to why you want to be in a different team, what isn't working in your current situation and what kind of ideal work environment you want. In wanting to switch teams you may well be asked, "Why do you want to switch teams?" and saying that you aren't happy with your current team isn't likely going to go over well as a good reason for moving you around. There is something to be said for working out a bit of strategy rather than just thinking you can blindly do what you want. Those first roles will usually have struggles like understanding the process and seeing how things are done in the real world. While on the one hand you got a bit of a wake-up call, I wonder how well do you know where you want to be? Do you want to be doing systems administration? Analysis of some kind? Project management? There are various roles and you'd better be able to explain why you want to shift into something else so that it makes sense to management and HR as they may well have to approve such shifts.
Some companies will use older technologies as they have to support existing systems and new systems aren't necessarily that easy to build. Start-ups may be better if you want to work with the cutting edge technologies but be aware that this could mean other trade-offs versus working in a large company like you are now. Additionally, some processes may be in a state of being changed on a regular basis and thus it is possible to occasionally see people struggling on finding ways to change the process to be more efficient and better.
Depending on your location, there may be various technical groups and clubs that would be a way to build a network. Consider sites like Meetup and groups on LinkedIn as a couple of ideas for where you could go to find others working in the field. I know of various groups around me in Calgary, Alberta though I don't know how well that applies to you as you don't state where you are. Fortune 100 companies may well have offices in many cities around the world.
Lastly, it may be worth talking to some of your colleagues to get an idea of how they view your work. Would any of them be a good reference? Would they vouch you are a good worker that should be given a transfer? How much longer is your internship? You need to get an idea of how do others see you as one point here. As for building the relationship, there are a few parts to this:
At work, on the job - Are there people you work with regularly in your development? How well do you associate with these people? Do you help them with their work? Do you learn from them?
At work, off the job - Do you take breaks with co-workers? Do you have lunch with co-workers? There can be something to be said for hanging out with co-workers to get to know them and build various bonds.
Away from work - Have you thought about socializing away from work with some of the co-workers? Perhaps some will go to a bar sometime during the week that can be another opportunity to get to know them. Perhaps you could go see a movie with these people? There are various ideas here for how to spend time with people that may work.
Social media - Could you be friends with these people on sites like Facebook, LinkedIn, or Twitter? This is an idea and depending on what you post there and how you use these sites, this can vary as an idea but it is something to consider.
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
15.1k22957
Thanks for your answer. Id say bad things in my team are that, we are given a project with constantly changing requirements which is making everyone frustrated and having a project manager that is not very good at what he does. As an intern I need some lifting to get myself up to speed but every try has been a fial. I am given tasks that are going to give me some knowledge but mostly they have vague goals. I have been using a team member for a person to go to and ask questions but I don't feel good taking too much of his time. Also, I want to give different areas a try to find my fit.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:12
The constantly changing requirements is likely to be common so that may not be easy to find a team that doesn't have that issue. As for the idea of someone helping you get up to speed, there are limits to that as well as the question of how well could you articulate what format do you best absorb new information and ideas. While I could support the wanting to try different areas, I'd likely consider asking about how would it be seen to change teams as it may go over badly as you could be seen as picky or fussy that may not work out well in the long run.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:17
I understand what you are saying in terms of being picky. I haven't complained to anybody yet, it's just something that is going in my mind so I need to find some ways to solve this issue so I won't be 'that guy'. As far as changing requirements, I am talking about high level requirements which defines the project. I like to read and watch video tutorials to learn about new things but in my case, the online community for the technologies that they use is fairly small. I find myself to pick up on topic at school fairly well but I am struggling here since I have much limited resources.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:26
This is where you may have to be creative about finding resources and in some cases possibly building your own as it can be that you'll likely have to learn things on your own versus a classroom setting. This is part of the difference between academia and the real world.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:30
true. I appreciate your time. Your answers gave me some perspective that I need to look at differently.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
May I suggest taking a step back and considering what is good and bad about your current role so that you could know if other roles will be a better fit? For as much as you want to go to another team, how confident are you that you won't find similar issues over there? Give serious consideration as to why you want to be in a different team, what isn't working in your current situation and what kind of ideal work environment you want. In wanting to switch teams you may well be asked, "Why do you want to switch teams?" and saying that you aren't happy with your current team isn't likely going to go over well as a good reason for moving you around. There is something to be said for working out a bit of strategy rather than just thinking you can blindly do what you want. Those first roles will usually have struggles like understanding the process and seeing how things are done in the real world. While on the one hand you got a bit of a wake-up call, I wonder how well do you know where you want to be? Do you want to be doing systems administration? Analysis of some kind? Project management? There are various roles and you'd better be able to explain why you want to shift into something else so that it makes sense to management and HR as they may well have to approve such shifts.
Some companies will use older technologies as they have to support existing systems and new systems aren't necessarily that easy to build. Start-ups may be better if you want to work with the cutting edge technologies but be aware that this could mean other trade-offs versus working in a large company like you are now. Additionally, some processes may be in a state of being changed on a regular basis and thus it is possible to occasionally see people struggling on finding ways to change the process to be more efficient and better.
Depending on your location, there may be various technical groups and clubs that would be a way to build a network. Consider sites like Meetup and groups on LinkedIn as a couple of ideas for where you could go to find others working in the field. I know of various groups around me in Calgary, Alberta though I don't know how well that applies to you as you don't state where you are. Fortune 100 companies may well have offices in many cities around the world.
Lastly, it may be worth talking to some of your colleagues to get an idea of how they view your work. Would any of them be a good reference? Would they vouch you are a good worker that should be given a transfer? How much longer is your internship? You need to get an idea of how do others see you as one point here. As for building the relationship, there are a few parts to this:
At work, on the job - Are there people you work with regularly in your development? How well do you associate with these people? Do you help them with their work? Do you learn from them?
At work, off the job - Do you take breaks with co-workers? Do you have lunch with co-workers? There can be something to be said for hanging out with co-workers to get to know them and build various bonds.
Away from work - Have you thought about socializing away from work with some of the co-workers? Perhaps some will go to a bar sometime during the week that can be another opportunity to get to know them. Perhaps you could go see a movie with these people? There are various ideas here for how to spend time with people that may work.
Social media - Could you be friends with these people on sites like Facebook, LinkedIn, or Twitter? This is an idea and depending on what you post there and how you use these sites, this can vary as an idea but it is something to consider.
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
15.1k22957
May I suggest taking a step back and considering what is good and bad about your current role so that you could know if other roles will be a better fit? For as much as you want to go to another team, how confident are you that you won't find similar issues over there? Give serious consideration as to why you want to be in a different team, what isn't working in your current situation and what kind of ideal work environment you want. In wanting to switch teams you may well be asked, "Why do you want to switch teams?" and saying that you aren't happy with your current team isn't likely going to go over well as a good reason for moving you around. There is something to be said for working out a bit of strategy rather than just thinking you can blindly do what you want. Those first roles will usually have struggles like understanding the process and seeing how things are done in the real world. While on the one hand you got a bit of a wake-up call, I wonder how well do you know where you want to be? Do you want to be doing systems administration? Analysis of some kind? Project management? There are various roles and you'd better be able to explain why you want to shift into something else so that it makes sense to management and HR as they may well have to approve such shifts.
Some companies will use older technologies as they have to support existing systems and new systems aren't necessarily that easy to build. Start-ups may be better if you want to work with the cutting edge technologies but be aware that this could mean other trade-offs versus working in a large company like you are now. Additionally, some processes may be in a state of being changed on a regular basis and thus it is possible to occasionally see people struggling on finding ways to change the process to be more efficient and better.
Depending on your location, there may be various technical groups and clubs that would be a way to build a network. Consider sites like Meetup and groups on LinkedIn as a couple of ideas for where you could go to find others working in the field. I know of various groups around me in Calgary, Alberta though I don't know how well that applies to you as you don't state where you are. Fortune 100 companies may well have offices in many cities around the world.
Lastly, it may be worth talking to some of your colleagues to get an idea of how they view your work. Would any of them be a good reference? Would they vouch you are a good worker that should be given a transfer? How much longer is your internship? You need to get an idea of how do others see you as one point here. As for building the relationship, there are a few parts to this:
At work, on the job - Are there people you work with regularly in your development? How well do you associate with these people? Do you help them with their work? Do you learn from them?
At work, off the job - Do you take breaks with co-workers? Do you have lunch with co-workers? There can be something to be said for hanging out with co-workers to get to know them and build various bonds.
Away from work - Have you thought about socializing away from work with some of the co-workers? Perhaps some will go to a bar sometime during the week that can be another opportunity to get to know them. Perhaps you could go see a movie with these people? There are various ideas here for how to spend time with people that may work.
Social media - Could you be friends with these people on sites like Facebook, LinkedIn, or Twitter? This is an idea and depending on what you post there and how you use these sites, this can vary as an idea but it is something to consider.
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
15.1k22957
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
15.1k22957
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
15.1k22957
answered Jul 24 '13 at 17:57
JB King
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15.1k22957
Thanks for your answer. Id say bad things in my team are that, we are given a project with constantly changing requirements which is making everyone frustrated and having a project manager that is not very good at what he does. As an intern I need some lifting to get myself up to speed but every try has been a fial. I am given tasks that are going to give me some knowledge but mostly they have vague goals. I have been using a team member for a person to go to and ask questions but I don't feel good taking too much of his time. Also, I want to give different areas a try to find my fit.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:12
The constantly changing requirements is likely to be common so that may not be easy to find a team that doesn't have that issue. As for the idea of someone helping you get up to speed, there are limits to that as well as the question of how well could you articulate what format do you best absorb new information and ideas. While I could support the wanting to try different areas, I'd likely consider asking about how would it be seen to change teams as it may go over badly as you could be seen as picky or fussy that may not work out well in the long run.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:17
I understand what you are saying in terms of being picky. I haven't complained to anybody yet, it's just something that is going in my mind so I need to find some ways to solve this issue so I won't be 'that guy'. As far as changing requirements, I am talking about high level requirements which defines the project. I like to read and watch video tutorials to learn about new things but in my case, the online community for the technologies that they use is fairly small. I find myself to pick up on topic at school fairly well but I am struggling here since I have much limited resources.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:26
This is where you may have to be creative about finding resources and in some cases possibly building your own as it can be that you'll likely have to learn things on your own versus a classroom setting. This is part of the difference between academia and the real world.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:30
true. I appreciate your time. Your answers gave me some perspective that I need to look at differently.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:40
add a comment |Â
Thanks for your answer. Id say bad things in my team are that, we are given a project with constantly changing requirements which is making everyone frustrated and having a project manager that is not very good at what he does. As an intern I need some lifting to get myself up to speed but every try has been a fial. I am given tasks that are going to give me some knowledge but mostly they have vague goals. I have been using a team member for a person to go to and ask questions but I don't feel good taking too much of his time. Also, I want to give different areas a try to find my fit.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:12
The constantly changing requirements is likely to be common so that may not be easy to find a team that doesn't have that issue. As for the idea of someone helping you get up to speed, there are limits to that as well as the question of how well could you articulate what format do you best absorb new information and ideas. While I could support the wanting to try different areas, I'd likely consider asking about how would it be seen to change teams as it may go over badly as you could be seen as picky or fussy that may not work out well in the long run.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:17
I understand what you are saying in terms of being picky. I haven't complained to anybody yet, it's just something that is going in my mind so I need to find some ways to solve this issue so I won't be 'that guy'. As far as changing requirements, I am talking about high level requirements which defines the project. I like to read and watch video tutorials to learn about new things but in my case, the online community for the technologies that they use is fairly small. I find myself to pick up on topic at school fairly well but I am struggling here since I have much limited resources.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:26
This is where you may have to be creative about finding resources and in some cases possibly building your own as it can be that you'll likely have to learn things on your own versus a classroom setting. This is part of the difference between academia and the real world.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:30
true. I appreciate your time. Your answers gave me some perspective that I need to look at differently.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:40
Thanks for your answer. Id say bad things in my team are that, we are given a project with constantly changing requirements which is making everyone frustrated and having a project manager that is not very good at what he does. As an intern I need some lifting to get myself up to speed but every try has been a fial. I am given tasks that are going to give me some knowledge but mostly they have vague goals. I have been using a team member for a person to go to and ask questions but I don't feel good taking too much of his time. Also, I want to give different areas a try to find my fit.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:12
Thanks for your answer. Id say bad things in my team are that, we are given a project with constantly changing requirements which is making everyone frustrated and having a project manager that is not very good at what he does. As an intern I need some lifting to get myself up to speed but every try has been a fial. I am given tasks that are going to give me some knowledge but mostly they have vague goals. I have been using a team member for a person to go to and ask questions but I don't feel good taking too much of his time. Also, I want to give different areas a try to find my fit.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:12
The constantly changing requirements is likely to be common so that may not be easy to find a team that doesn't have that issue. As for the idea of someone helping you get up to speed, there are limits to that as well as the question of how well could you articulate what format do you best absorb new information and ideas. While I could support the wanting to try different areas, I'd likely consider asking about how would it be seen to change teams as it may go over badly as you could be seen as picky or fussy that may not work out well in the long run.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:17
The constantly changing requirements is likely to be common so that may not be easy to find a team that doesn't have that issue. As for the idea of someone helping you get up to speed, there are limits to that as well as the question of how well could you articulate what format do you best absorb new information and ideas. While I could support the wanting to try different areas, I'd likely consider asking about how would it be seen to change teams as it may go over badly as you could be seen as picky or fussy that may not work out well in the long run.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:17
I understand what you are saying in terms of being picky. I haven't complained to anybody yet, it's just something that is going in my mind so I need to find some ways to solve this issue so I won't be 'that guy'. As far as changing requirements, I am talking about high level requirements which defines the project. I like to read and watch video tutorials to learn about new things but in my case, the online community for the technologies that they use is fairly small. I find myself to pick up on topic at school fairly well but I am struggling here since I have much limited resources.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:26
I understand what you are saying in terms of being picky. I haven't complained to anybody yet, it's just something that is going in my mind so I need to find some ways to solve this issue so I won't be 'that guy'. As far as changing requirements, I am talking about high level requirements which defines the project. I like to read and watch video tutorials to learn about new things but in my case, the online community for the technologies that they use is fairly small. I find myself to pick up on topic at school fairly well but I am struggling here since I have much limited resources.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:26
This is where you may have to be creative about finding resources and in some cases possibly building your own as it can be that you'll likely have to learn things on your own versus a classroom setting. This is part of the difference between academia and the real world.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:30
This is where you may have to be creative about finding resources and in some cases possibly building your own as it can be that you'll likely have to learn things on your own versus a classroom setting. This is part of the difference between academia and the real world.
– JB King
Jul 24 '13 at 18:30
true. I appreciate your time. Your answers gave me some perspective that I need to look at differently.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:40
true. I appreciate your time. Your answers gave me some perspective that I need to look at differently.
– Nomz
Jul 24 '13 at 18:40
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Look around for your "mentors", not just the official mentors or managers but employees that are on the same project as you, but are also on other projects. Ask them questions about these other projects. Ask if you can attend a meeting or read some documents about the project or the technology they are using. After a while you might even ask them to introduce you to members of the other team.
The enhanced level of interaction with team members, if not done to the level of stalking, can make a positive impression. You want to be interested in more than your assigned task so that you can appear to be interested in learning. The interactions with members of other teams will help spread you contacts into other parts of the company.
The corporation as a whole wants to be able to find a position for interns that they view as capable. Yes, the project you are assigned to work with as an intern may expect you to work for them after graduation, but that might not even be possible.
I have seen interns assigned to projects that had short term needs but no definite long term need. Others were able to use interns because their department had funding available. Depending on the time left to graduation the team might not even exist when you are ready to become a full time employee.
A goal for your internship is to be able to make a positive impression to several people in the company, so that they can be used as a direct or indirect reference for a job. You don't want to walk away with a hundred business cards from people that will not remember you next year. But I hand full of LinkedIn contacts from people who will remember you, can help you when you are looking for a job.
You want to have away to contact these people besides via company email. You access to the address list will disappear at the end of you relationship with the company. Also if they leave the company you have no way of asking them for help. I wouldn't use social media that isn't geared for business, because it is generally not advisable to friend your work contacts on these platforms.
answered Jul 28 '13 at 15:21
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Look around for your "mentors", not just the official mentors or managers but employees that are on the same project as you, but are also on other projects. Ask them questions about these other projects. Ask if you can attend a meeting or read some documents about the project or the technology they are using. After a while you might even ask them to introduce you to members of the other team.
The enhanced level of interaction with team members, if not done to the level of stalking, can make a positive impression. You want to be interested in more than your assigned task so that you can appear to be interested in learning. The interactions with members of other teams will help spread you contacts into other parts of the company.
The corporation as a whole wants to be able to find a position for interns that they view as capable. Yes, the project you are assigned to work with as an intern may expect you to work for them after graduation, but that might not even be possible.
I have seen interns assigned to projects that had short term needs but no definite long term need. Others were able to use interns because their department had funding available. Depending on the time left to graduation the team might not even exist when you are ready to become a full time employee.
A goal for your internship is to be able to make a positive impression to several people in the company, so that they can be used as a direct or indirect reference for a job. You don't want to walk away with a hundred business cards from people that will not remember you next year. But I hand full of LinkedIn contacts from people who will remember you, can help you when you are looking for a job.
You want to have away to contact these people besides via company email. You access to the address list will disappear at the end of you relationship with the company. Also if they leave the company you have no way of asking them for help. I wouldn't use social media that isn't geared for business, because it is generally not advisable to friend your work contacts on these platforms.
answered Jul 28 '13 at 15:21
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40.3k463144
add a comment |Â
up vote
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up vote
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down vote
Look around for your "mentors", not just the official mentors or managers but employees that are on the same project as you, but are also on other projects. Ask them questions about these other projects. Ask if you can attend a meeting or read some documents about the project or the technology they are using. After a while you might even ask them to introduce you to members of the other team.
The enhanced level of interaction with team members, if not done to the level of stalking, can make a positive impression. You want to be interested in more than your assigned task so that you can appear to be interested in learning. The interactions with members of other teams will help spread you contacts into other parts of the company.
The corporation as a whole wants to be able to find a position for interns that they view as capable. Yes, the project you are assigned to work with as an intern may expect you to work for them after graduation, but that might not even be possible.
I have seen interns assigned to projects that had short term needs but no definite long term need. Others were able to use interns because their department had funding available. Depending on the time left to graduation the team might not even exist when you are ready to become a full time employee.
A goal for your internship is to be able to make a positive impression to several people in the company, so that they can be used as a direct or indirect reference for a job. You don't want to walk away with a hundred business cards from people that will not remember you next year. But I hand full of LinkedIn contacts from people who will remember you, can help you when you are looking for a job.
You want to have away to contact these people besides via company email. You access to the address list will disappear at the end of you relationship with the company. Also if they leave the company you have no way of asking them for help. I wouldn't use social media that isn't geared for business, because it is generally not advisable to friend your work contacts on these platforms.
answered Jul 28 '13 at 15:21
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
Look around for your "mentors", not just the official mentors or managers but employees that are on the same project as you, but are also on other projects. Ask them questions about these other projects. Ask if you can attend a meeting or read some documents about the project or the technology they are using. After a while you might even ask them to introduce you to members of the other team.
The enhanced level of interaction with team members, if not done to the level of stalking, can make a positive impression. You want to be interested in more than your assigned task so that you can appear to be interested in learning. The interactions with members of other teams will help spread you contacts into other parts of the company.
The corporation as a whole wants to be able to find a position for interns that they view as capable. Yes, the project you are assigned to work with as an intern may expect you to work for them after graduation, but that might not even be possible.
I have seen interns assigned to projects that had short term needs but no definite long term need. Others were able to use interns because their department had funding available. Depending on the time left to graduation the team might not even exist when you are ready to become a full time employee.
A goal for your internship is to be able to make a positive impression to several people in the company, so that they can be used as a direct or indirect reference for a job. You don't want to walk away with a hundred business cards from people that will not remember you next year. But I hand full of LinkedIn contacts from people who will remember you, can help you when you are looking for a job.
You want to have away to contact these people besides via company email. You access to the address list will disappear at the end of you relationship with the company. Also if they leave the company you have no way of asking them for help. I wouldn't use social media that isn't geared for business, because it is generally not advisable to friend your work contacts on these platforms.
answered Jul 28 '13 at 15:21
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answered Jul 28 '13 at 15:21
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answered Jul 28 '13 at 15:21
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This is a fairly vague question - there's a lot of detail, without much clarification of what you're trying to do.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 24 '13 at 20:19
Is your goal to network for purposes of finding out what you want to do should you return to the company? It seems this is what you are asking and if so, I think it's a great question for this site - but right now it is really open and hard to answer.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 25 '13 at 14:45
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I think I had so many items on my mind at the time I wrote this. Your comment summarizes my thought so I am going to change edit it to reflect this in a more clear way. Thank you.
– Nomz
Jul 25 '13 at 15:10
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Much better. Thanks.
– bethlakshmi
Jul 25 '13 at 19:44
You're just getting started man, keep your head down and let your work speak for itself.
– Andrew Bartel
Jul 25 '13 at 21:29