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A lot of companies I interview for ask for a coding task to be completed within a limited time, such as building a small program/web application.
HR typically sends me an email with the challenge, and expects a reply email in the following 2-3 hours. Most of the time, HR can only administer the task during working hours, which happen to be same as mine.
This is a problem because my weekly deliverables at my current job are set and are pretty tightly packed, so taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
Spread across a few days, I will usually squeeze some hours, reach home early, and give the interview, but by the time I get home from work, I am dead tired. I can whip up some basic code, but that is not my best shot.
Once or twice I have told HR that I can do it on a Saturday, but without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
What alternatives do I have for performing time-limited code challenges for interviews when I am unable to take the time off work for them, and they can only be given during business hours?
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A lot of companies I interview for ask for a coding task to be completed within a limited time, such as building a small program/web application.
HR typically sends me an email with the challenge, and expects a reply email in the following 2-3 hours. Most of the time, HR can only administer the task during working hours, which happen to be same as mine.
This is a problem because my weekly deliverables at my current job are set and are pretty tightly packed, so taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
Spread across a few days, I will usually squeeze some hours, reach home early, and give the interview, but by the time I get home from work, I am dead tired. I can whip up some basic code, but that is not my best shot.
Once or twice I have told HR that I can do it on a Saturday, but without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
What alternatives do I have for performing time-limited code challenges for interviews when I am unable to take the time off work for them, and they can only be given during business hours?
interviewing job-search
edited Jun 22 '13 at 14:07
Rachel
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asked Jun 20 '13 at 19:45
happybuddha
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@JoeStrazzere that is probably the only way and what I have tried with no success. I thought I could ask here and see if someone has an advice/tip to offer about this or counter proposing something to the HR
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 20:18
2
Is taking a half-day at work (or the entire day off) not an option?
– Clockwork-Muse
Jun 20 '13 at 20:31
Do it first thing in the morning and go in late? Take time off from work? (I've never heard of one of these being structured that way, as opposed to "return it within a day" (or two).
– Monica Cellio♦
Jun 20 '13 at 21:02
@MonicaCellio, I am sure you haven't interviewed at a technical position with this giant firm that I had my most recent experience with. Clockwork, yes, that is an option but most of the month, my weekly deliverables are set which are pretty tightly packed. So taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 21:25
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My refusal to copy code from google searches can be one reason I am not able to perform well.<-- what? I use code from google searches all the time at my job.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:07
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A lot of companies I interview for ask for a coding task to be completed within a limited time, such as building a small program/web application.
HR typically sends me an email with the challenge, and expects a reply email in the following 2-3 hours. Most of the time, HR can only administer the task during working hours, which happen to be same as mine.
This is a problem because my weekly deliverables at my current job are set and are pretty tightly packed, so taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
Spread across a few days, I will usually squeeze some hours, reach home early, and give the interview, but by the time I get home from work, I am dead tired. I can whip up some basic code, but that is not my best shot.
Once or twice I have told HR that I can do it on a Saturday, but without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
What alternatives do I have for performing time-limited code challenges for interviews when I am unable to take the time off work for them, and they can only be given during business hours?
interviewing job-search
edited Jun 22 '13 at 14:07
Rachel
6,14184268
asked Jun 20 '13 at 19:45
happybuddha
4,31152752
A lot of companies I interview for ask for a coding task to be completed within a limited time, such as building a small program/web application.
HR typically sends me an email with the challenge, and expects a reply email in the following 2-3 hours. Most of the time, HR can only administer the task during working hours, which happen to be same as mine.
This is a problem because my weekly deliverables at my current job are set and are pretty tightly packed, so taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
Spread across a few days, I will usually squeeze some hours, reach home early, and give the interview, but by the time I get home from work, I am dead tired. I can whip up some basic code, but that is not my best shot.
Once or twice I have told HR that I can do it on a Saturday, but without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
What alternatives do I have for performing time-limited code challenges for interviews when I am unable to take the time off work for them, and they can only be given during business hours?
interviewing job-search
edited Jun 22 '13 at 14:07
Rachel
6,14184268
asked Jun 20 '13 at 19:45
happybuddha
4,31152752
edited Jun 22 '13 at 14:07
Rachel
6,14184268
edited Jun 22 '13 at 14:07
Rachel
6,14184268
edited Jun 22 '13 at 14:07
Rachel
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6,14184268
asked Jun 20 '13 at 19:45
happybuddha
4,31152752
asked Jun 20 '13 at 19:45
happybuddha
4,31152752
asked Jun 20 '13 at 19:45
happybuddha
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4,31152752
@JoeStrazzere that is probably the only way and what I have tried with no success. I thought I could ask here and see if someone has an advice/tip to offer about this or counter proposing something to the HR
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 20:18
2
Is taking a half-day at work (or the entire day off) not an option?
– Clockwork-Muse
Jun 20 '13 at 20:31
Do it first thing in the morning and go in late? Take time off from work? (I've never heard of one of these being structured that way, as opposed to "return it within a day" (or two).
– Monica Cellio♦
Jun 20 '13 at 21:02
@MonicaCellio, I am sure you haven't interviewed at a technical position with this giant firm that I had my most recent experience with. Clockwork, yes, that is an option but most of the month, my weekly deliverables are set which are pretty tightly packed. So taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 21:25
1
My refusal to copy code from google searches can be one reason I am not able to perform well.<-- what? I use code from google searches all the time at my job.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:07
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@JoeStrazzere that is probably the only way and what I have tried with no success. I thought I could ask here and see if someone has an advice/tip to offer about this or counter proposing something to the HR
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 20:18
2
Is taking a half-day at work (or the entire day off) not an option?
– Clockwork-Muse
Jun 20 '13 at 20:31
Do it first thing in the morning and go in late? Take time off from work? (I've never heard of one of these being structured that way, as opposed to "return it within a day" (or two).
– Monica Cellio♦
Jun 20 '13 at 21:02
@MonicaCellio, I am sure you haven't interviewed at a technical position with this giant firm that I had my most recent experience with. Clockwork, yes, that is an option but most of the month, my weekly deliverables are set which are pretty tightly packed. So taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 21:25
1
My refusal to copy code from google searches can be one reason I am not able to perform well.<-- what? I use code from google searches all the time at my job.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:07
@JoeStrazzere that is probably the only way and what I have tried with no success. I thought I could ask here and see if someone has an advice/tip to offer about this or counter proposing something to the HR
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 20:18
@JoeStrazzere that is probably the only way and what I have tried with no success. I thought I could ask here and see if someone has an advice/tip to offer about this or counter proposing something to the HR
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 20:18
2
2
Is taking a half-day at work (or the entire day off) not an option?
– Clockwork-Muse
Jun 20 '13 at 20:31
Is taking a half-day at work (or the entire day off) not an option?
– Clockwork-Muse
Jun 20 '13 at 20:31
Do it first thing in the morning and go in late? Take time off from work? (I've never heard of one of these being structured that way, as opposed to "return it within a day" (or two).
– Monica Cellio♦
Jun 20 '13 at 21:02
Do it first thing in the morning and go in late? Take time off from work? (I've never heard of one of these being structured that way, as opposed to "return it within a day" (or two).
– Monica Cellio♦
Jun 20 '13 at 21:02
@MonicaCellio, I am sure you haven't interviewed at a technical position with this giant firm that I had my most recent experience with. Clockwork, yes, that is an option but most of the month, my weekly deliverables are set which are pretty tightly packed. So taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 21:25
@MonicaCellio, I am sure you haven't interviewed at a technical position with this giant firm that I had my most recent experience with. Clockwork, yes, that is an option but most of the month, my weekly deliverables are set which are pretty tightly packed. So taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 21:25
1
1
My refusal to copy code from google searches can be one reason I am not able to perform well. <-- what? I use code from google searches all the time at my job.– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:07
My refusal to copy code from google searches can be one reason I am not able to perform well. <-- what? I use code from google searches all the time at my job.– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:07
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This suggestion will depend on the capabilities of the email software you and the company that you're interviewing with. For instance, Microsoft Outlook supports a receipt. You could request that the company employee sends you the coding challenge with a receipt requested and the stipulation that you'll open the message within the next day or during the weekend. The time stamps on the receipt and your email with the solution should provide proof that you didn't take longer than the allowed time.
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
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You think I didnt propose this ? Well, I guess, I just have to either take a day off or do such assignments before I go to work.
– happybuddha
Jun 21 '13 at 0:48
4
This answer will not work 99.9% of the time because read receipts are unreliable when sent to those not using Outlook on the same exchange server.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:12
3
@happybuddha we only know what you tell us. If you didn't tell us you tried proposing that then we have no way of knowing it. Just for future reference.
– Rhys
Jun 21 '13 at 8:56
@enderland, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know.
– mkennedy
Jun 21 '13 at 15:49
1
I think some email programs allow for delayed delivery too. Depending on what email program the HR person is using, and their technical knowledge, perhaps you could ask them to send a delayed email message, and help walk them through the process if they need it.
– Rachel
Jun 22 '13 at 14:13
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Once or twice I have told the HRs that I can do it on a Saturday, but
without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
Somehow, I cant drive this home to their heads.
I'm sure they understand it quite well. You may be okay with working on weekends, but for the people involved in recruiting you, this is their job. They go home at night and on weekends just like you do and like to have their free time to themselves. Unless you're an incredibly desirable candidate that's being courted because the company knows it wants you to work for them, it's unreasonable to expect them to bend over backward for you.
Finding a new job requires some investment on your part. If that means you have to take a few hours off during business hours to participate in the process, the cost of that time off is your investment. It's up to you to evaluate whether the potential return the company will give you if they hire you is worth what you invested. (See this semi-related answer.)
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2 Answers
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active
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active
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accepted
This suggestion will depend on the capabilities of the email software you and the company that you're interviewing with. For instance, Microsoft Outlook supports a receipt. You could request that the company employee sends you the coding challenge with a receipt requested and the stipulation that you'll open the message within the next day or during the weekend. The time stamps on the receipt and your email with the solution should provide proof that you didn't take longer than the allowed time.
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
8251018
You think I didnt propose this ? Well, I guess, I just have to either take a day off or do such assignments before I go to work.
– happybuddha
Jun 21 '13 at 0:48
4
This answer will not work 99.9% of the time because read receipts are unreliable when sent to those not using Outlook on the same exchange server.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:12
3
@happybuddha we only know what you tell us. If you didn't tell us you tried proposing that then we have no way of knowing it. Just for future reference.
– Rhys
Jun 21 '13 at 8:56
@enderland, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know.
– mkennedy
Jun 21 '13 at 15:49
1
I think some email programs allow for delayed delivery too. Depending on what email program the HR person is using, and their technical knowledge, perhaps you could ask them to send a delayed email message, and help walk them through the process if they need it.
– Rachel
Jun 22 '13 at 14:13
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
This suggestion will depend on the capabilities of the email software you and the company that you're interviewing with. For instance, Microsoft Outlook supports a receipt. You could request that the company employee sends you the coding challenge with a receipt requested and the stipulation that you'll open the message within the next day or during the weekend. The time stamps on the receipt and your email with the solution should provide proof that you didn't take longer than the allowed time.
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
8251018
You think I didnt propose this ? Well, I guess, I just have to either take a day off or do such assignments before I go to work.
– happybuddha
Jun 21 '13 at 0:48
4
This answer will not work 99.9% of the time because read receipts are unreliable when sent to those not using Outlook on the same exchange server.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:12
3
@happybuddha we only know what you tell us. If you didn't tell us you tried proposing that then we have no way of knowing it. Just for future reference.
– Rhys
Jun 21 '13 at 8:56
@enderland, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know.
– mkennedy
Jun 21 '13 at 15:49
1
I think some email programs allow for delayed delivery too. Depending on what email program the HR person is using, and their technical knowledge, perhaps you could ask them to send a delayed email message, and help walk them through the process if they need it.
– Rachel
Jun 22 '13 at 14:13
add a comment |Â
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
up vote
4
down vote
accepted
This suggestion will depend on the capabilities of the email software you and the company that you're interviewing with. For instance, Microsoft Outlook supports a receipt. You could request that the company employee sends you the coding challenge with a receipt requested and the stipulation that you'll open the message within the next day or during the weekend. The time stamps on the receipt and your email with the solution should provide proof that you didn't take longer than the allowed time.
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
8251018
This suggestion will depend on the capabilities of the email software you and the company that you're interviewing with. For instance, Microsoft Outlook supports a receipt. You could request that the company employee sends you the coding challenge with a receipt requested and the stipulation that you'll open the message within the next day or during the weekend. The time stamps on the receipt and your email with the solution should provide proof that you didn't take longer than the allowed time.
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
8251018
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
8251018
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
8251018
answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:16
mkennedy
8251018
8251018
You think I didnt propose this ? Well, I guess, I just have to either take a day off or do such assignments before I go to work.
– happybuddha
Jun 21 '13 at 0:48
4
This answer will not work 99.9% of the time because read receipts are unreliable when sent to those not using Outlook on the same exchange server.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:12
3
@happybuddha we only know what you tell us. If you didn't tell us you tried proposing that then we have no way of knowing it. Just for future reference.
– Rhys
Jun 21 '13 at 8:56
@enderland, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know.
– mkennedy
Jun 21 '13 at 15:49
1
I think some email programs allow for delayed delivery too. Depending on what email program the HR person is using, and their technical knowledge, perhaps you could ask them to send a delayed email message, and help walk them through the process if they need it.
– Rachel
Jun 22 '13 at 14:13
add a comment |Â
You think I didnt propose this ? Well, I guess, I just have to either take a day off or do such assignments before I go to work.
– happybuddha
Jun 21 '13 at 0:48
4
This answer will not work 99.9% of the time because read receipts are unreliable when sent to those not using Outlook on the same exchange server.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:12
3
@happybuddha we only know what you tell us. If you didn't tell us you tried proposing that then we have no way of knowing it. Just for future reference.
– Rhys
Jun 21 '13 at 8:56
@enderland, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know.
– mkennedy
Jun 21 '13 at 15:49
1
I think some email programs allow for delayed delivery too. Depending on what email program the HR person is using, and their technical knowledge, perhaps you could ask them to send a delayed email message, and help walk them through the process if they need it.
– Rachel
Jun 22 '13 at 14:13
You think I didnt propose this ? Well, I guess, I just have to either take a day off or do such assignments before I go to work.
– happybuddha
Jun 21 '13 at 0:48
You think I didnt propose this ? Well, I guess, I just have to either take a day off or do such assignments before I go to work.
– happybuddha
Jun 21 '13 at 0:48
4
4
This answer will not work 99.9% of the time because read receipts are unreliable when sent to those not using Outlook on the same exchange server.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:12
This answer will not work 99.9% of the time because read receipts are unreliable when sent to those not using Outlook on the same exchange server.
– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:12
3
3
@happybuddha we only know what you tell us. If you didn't tell us you tried proposing that then we have no way of knowing it. Just for future reference.
– Rhys
Jun 21 '13 at 8:56
@happybuddha we only know what you tell us. If you didn't tell us you tried proposing that then we have no way of knowing it. Just for future reference.
– Rhys
Jun 21 '13 at 8:56
@enderland, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know.
– mkennedy
Jun 21 '13 at 15:49
@enderland, I didn't know that! Thanks for letting me know.
– mkennedy
Jun 21 '13 at 15:49
1
1
I think some email programs allow for delayed delivery too. Depending on what email program the HR person is using, and their technical knowledge, perhaps you could ask them to send a delayed email message, and help walk them through the process if they need it.
– Rachel
Jun 22 '13 at 14:13
I think some email programs allow for delayed delivery too. Depending on what email program the HR person is using, and their technical knowledge, perhaps you could ask them to send a delayed email message, and help walk them through the process if they need it.
– Rachel
Jun 22 '13 at 14:13
add a comment |Â
up vote
5
down vote
Once or twice I have told the HRs that I can do it on a Saturday, but
without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
Somehow, I cant drive this home to their heads.
I'm sure they understand it quite well. You may be okay with working on weekends, but for the people involved in recruiting you, this is their job. They go home at night and on weekends just like you do and like to have their free time to themselves. Unless you're an incredibly desirable candidate that's being courted because the company knows it wants you to work for them, it's unreasonable to expect them to bend over backward for you.
Finding a new job requires some investment on your part. If that means you have to take a few hours off during business hours to participate in the process, the cost of that time off is your investment. It's up to you to evaluate whether the potential return the company will give you if they hire you is worth what you invested. (See this semi-related answer.)
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:04
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up vote
5
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Once or twice I have told the HRs that I can do it on a Saturday, but
without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
Somehow, I cant drive this home to their heads.
I'm sure they understand it quite well. You may be okay with working on weekends, but for the people involved in recruiting you, this is their job. They go home at night and on weekends just like you do and like to have their free time to themselves. Unless you're an incredibly desirable candidate that's being courted because the company knows it wants you to work for them, it's unreasonable to expect them to bend over backward for you.
Finding a new job requires some investment on your part. If that means you have to take a few hours off during business hours to participate in the process, the cost of that time off is your investment. It's up to you to evaluate whether the potential return the company will give you if they hire you is worth what you invested. (See this semi-related answer.)
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:04
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up vote
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Once or twice I have told the HRs that I can do it on a Saturday, but
without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
Somehow, I cant drive this home to their heads.
I'm sure they understand it quite well. You may be okay with working on weekends, but for the people involved in recruiting you, this is their job. They go home at night and on weekends just like you do and like to have their free time to themselves. Unless you're an incredibly desirable candidate that's being courted because the company knows it wants you to work for them, it's unreasonable to expect them to bend over backward for you.
Finding a new job requires some investment on your part. If that means you have to take a few hours off during business hours to participate in the process, the cost of that time off is your investment. It's up to you to evaluate whether the potential return the company will give you if they hire you is worth what you invested. (See this semi-related answer.)
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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answered Jun 20 '13 at 22:04
Blrfl
4,5651721
Once or twice I have told the HRs that I can do it on a Saturday, but
without blinking an eyelid they'd jump up and say 'only on weekdays'.
Somehow, I cant drive this home to their heads.
I'm sure they understand it quite well. You may be okay with working on weekends, but for the people involved in recruiting you, this is their job. They go home at night and on weekends just like you do and like to have their free time to themselves. Unless you're an incredibly desirable candidate that's being courted because the company knows it wants you to work for them, it's unreasonable to expect them to bend over backward for you.
Finding a new job requires some investment on your part. If that means you have to take a few hours off during business hours to participate in the process, the cost of that time off is your investment. It's up to you to evaluate whether the potential return the company will give you if they hire you is worth what you invested. (See this semi-related answer.)
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@JoeStrazzere that is probably the only way and what I have tried with no success. I thought I could ask here and see if someone has an advice/tip to offer about this or counter proposing something to the HR
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 20:18
2
Is taking a half-day at work (or the entire day off) not an option?
– Clockwork-Muse
Jun 20 '13 at 20:31
Do it first thing in the morning and go in late? Take time off from work? (I've never heard of one of these being structured that way, as opposed to "return it within a day" (or two).
– Monica Cellio♦
Jun 20 '13 at 21:02
@MonicaCellio, I am sure you haven't interviewed at a technical position with this giant firm that I had my most recent experience with. Clockwork, yes, that is an option but most of the month, my weekly deliverables are set which are pretty tightly packed. So taking a day off would be in an extreme situation for me.
– happybuddha
Jun 20 '13 at 21:25
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My refusal to copy code from google searches can be one reason I am not able to perform well.<-- what? I use code from google searches all the time at my job.– Elysian Fields♦
Jun 21 '13 at 2:07