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Have I verbally accepted an offer, or just expressed interest in seeing a contract?
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I'm considering two job offers at the moment. Company A called, offered me the job "If you're still available". I said "Yes, I am definitely interested". They gave me a contract.
Company B called and said they want to send me a contract.
Obviously if I go with Company A I just sign and return the contract and Company B can be "my little secret".
Let's say I decide to go with Company B, though. Have I "verbally accepted" the offer from Company A? What would I say in calling them up and saying "So, actually, turns out I will not be sending that contract back"? How upset could they reasonably be, and how might I minimize this?
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I'm considering two job offers at the moment. Company A called, offered me the job "If you're still available". I said "Yes, I am definitely interested". They gave me a contract.
Company B called and said they want to send me a contract.
Obviously if I go with Company A I just sign and return the contract and Company B can be "my little secret".
Let's say I decide to go with Company B, though. Have I "verbally accepted" the offer from Company A? What would I say in calling them up and saying "So, actually, turns out I will not be sending that contract back"? How upset could they reasonably be, and how might I minimize this?
hiring-process contracts
asked Jul 31 '12 at 18:28
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"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." - Samuel Goldwyn
– Oded
Jul 31 '12 at 19:39
In theory even if you sign a contract with Company A, you can inform them AFTER the fact, you actually will be working for Company B if you wanted. Of course don't expect to work for Company A or anyone Company A works with in the future.
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I'm considering two job offers at the moment. Company A called, offered me the job "If you're still available". I said "Yes, I am definitely interested". They gave me a contract.
Company B called and said they want to send me a contract.
Obviously if I go with Company A I just sign and return the contract and Company B can be "my little secret".
Let's say I decide to go with Company B, though. Have I "verbally accepted" the offer from Company A? What would I say in calling them up and saying "So, actually, turns out I will not be sending that contract back"? How upset could they reasonably be, and how might I minimize this?
hiring-process contracts
asked Jul 31 '12 at 18:28
user3450349582098
4712
I'm considering two job offers at the moment. Company A called, offered me the job "If you're still available". I said "Yes, I am definitely interested". They gave me a contract.
Company B called and said they want to send me a contract.
Obviously if I go with Company A I just sign and return the contract and Company B can be "my little secret".
Let's say I decide to go with Company B, though. Have I "verbally accepted" the offer from Company A? What would I say in calling them up and saying "So, actually, turns out I will not be sending that contract back"? How upset could they reasonably be, and how might I minimize this?
hiring-process contracts
asked Jul 31 '12 at 18:28
user3450349582098
4712
asked Jul 31 '12 at 18:28
user3450349582098
4712
asked Jul 31 '12 at 18:28
user3450349582098
4712
asked Jul 31 '12 at 18:28
user3450349582098
4712
4712
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"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." - Samuel Goldwyn
– Oded
Jul 31 '12 at 19:39
In theory even if you sign a contract with Company A, you can inform them AFTER the fact, you actually will be working for Company B if you wanted. Of course don't expect to work for Company A or anyone Company A works with in the future.
– Ramhound
Aug 1 '12 at 15:47
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"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." - Samuel Goldwyn
– Oded
Jul 31 '12 at 19:39
In theory even if you sign a contract with Company A, you can inform them AFTER the fact, you actually will be working for Company B if you wanted. Of course don't expect to work for Company A or anyone Company A works with in the future.
– Ramhound
Aug 1 '12 at 15:47
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"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." - Samuel Goldwyn
– Oded
Jul 31 '12 at 19:39
"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." - Samuel Goldwyn
– Oded
Jul 31 '12 at 19:39
In theory even if you sign a contract with Company A, you can inform them AFTER the fact, you actually will be working for Company B if you wanted. Of course don't expect to work for Company A or anyone Company A works with in the future.
– Ramhound
Aug 1 '12 at 15:47
In theory even if you sign a contract with Company A, you can inform them AFTER the fact, you actually will be working for Company B if you wanted. Of course don't expect to work for Company A or anyone Company A works with in the future.
– Ramhound
Aug 1 '12 at 15:47
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You have not accepted a job until you and the company have both signed the dotted line.
If you hold on to the contract with Company A and decide not to go through, that is your right.
Company A will know this is a possibility - in some cases, candidates don't follow through even after signing a contract (for various reasons). Any reasonable employer will know this and accept this.
You can minimise issues by being upfront - if you explain that you have another offer and you wanted to review both contracts before making your final decision, they should understand.
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
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UNtil you receive the offer, you don't know what they are offering anyway (verbal discussions and written offers often do not match). So of course you can change your mind once you see the contract.
– HLGEM
Jul 31 '12 at 19:40
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You don't owe Company A anything until after you have signed and returned the contract. There are many things can can change between the initial interview, and the start date. This is true even if you thought you understood everything.
Some companies will only have vague statements about benefits on their website. But you might not realize until they send you the contract that it doesn't include something. They might not have a good retirement plan, or the health insurance could be very expensive.
You might find that the company wants to put you on a different project or move you to a different location.
The contract should have an expiration date, and a method of accepting the contract. They will most likely followup in a day or two, to urge you to sign. If you want to see a contract from Company B you will have to get them to act fast, or risk having to make a decision at the last minute.
When the deadline is reached for company A you will have to accept or reject the contract. If you reject or let it expire they will move on to the second candidate. If you accept they will wait a day or two and either inform the 2nd candidate the the position is filled, or try to find them a new position.
If you switch to company B after accepting the contract from company A, they will be disappointed, or upset, but are unlikely to sue you. The exception is if they spent additional funds for a background check, or to move you, then they might want to recover damages. I did see one case where the employee accepted a position with the government, but the back ground investigation took over a year. When the government checked back with the employee, they discovered that they had accepted a another government job and didn't want to go with the first agency. The 2nd agency only took 30 days to complete the investigation.
The penalty for backing out will be an inability to ever work for that group again.
answered Aug 5 '12 at 18:29
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2 Answers
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active
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active
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active
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15
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You have not accepted a job until you and the company have both signed the dotted line.
If you hold on to the contract with Company A and decide not to go through, that is your right.
Company A will know this is a possibility - in some cases, candidates don't follow through even after signing a contract (for various reasons). Any reasonable employer will know this and accept this.
You can minimise issues by being upfront - if you explain that you have another offer and you wanted to review both contracts before making your final decision, they should understand.
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
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UNtil you receive the offer, you don't know what they are offering anyway (verbal discussions and written offers often do not match). So of course you can change your mind once you see the contract.
– HLGEM
Jul 31 '12 at 19:40
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up vote
15
down vote
You have not accepted a job until you and the company have both signed the dotted line.
If you hold on to the contract with Company A and decide not to go through, that is your right.
Company A will know this is a possibility - in some cases, candidates don't follow through even after signing a contract (for various reasons). Any reasonable employer will know this and accept this.
You can minimise issues by being upfront - if you explain that you have another offer and you wanted to review both contracts before making your final decision, they should understand.
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
21.1k57597
4
UNtil you receive the offer, you don't know what they are offering anyway (verbal discussions and written offers often do not match). So of course you can change your mind once you see the contract.
– HLGEM
Jul 31 '12 at 19:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
15
down vote
up vote
15
down vote
You have not accepted a job until you and the company have both signed the dotted line.
If you hold on to the contract with Company A and decide not to go through, that is your right.
Company A will know this is a possibility - in some cases, candidates don't follow through even after signing a contract (for various reasons). Any reasonable employer will know this and accept this.
You can minimise issues by being upfront - if you explain that you have another offer and you wanted to review both contracts before making your final decision, they should understand.
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
21.1k57597
You have not accepted a job until you and the company have both signed the dotted line.
If you hold on to the contract with Company A and decide not to go through, that is your right.
Company A will know this is a possibility - in some cases, candidates don't follow through even after signing a contract (for various reasons). Any reasonable employer will know this and accept this.
You can minimise issues by being upfront - if you explain that you have another offer and you wanted to review both contracts before making your final decision, they should understand.
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
21.1k57597
edited Jul 31 '12 at 18:48
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
21.1k57597
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
21.1k57597
answered Jul 31 '12 at 18:35
Oded
21.1k57597
21.1k57597
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UNtil you receive the offer, you don't know what they are offering anyway (verbal discussions and written offers often do not match). So of course you can change your mind once you see the contract.
– HLGEM
Jul 31 '12 at 19:40
add a comment |Â
4
UNtil you receive the offer, you don't know what they are offering anyway (verbal discussions and written offers often do not match). So of course you can change your mind once you see the contract.
– HLGEM
Jul 31 '12 at 19:40
4
4
UNtil you receive the offer, you don't know what they are offering anyway (verbal discussions and written offers often do not match). So of course you can change your mind once you see the contract.
– HLGEM
Jul 31 '12 at 19:40
UNtil you receive the offer, you don't know what they are offering anyway (verbal discussions and written offers often do not match). So of course you can change your mind once you see the contract.
– HLGEM
Jul 31 '12 at 19:40
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
You don't owe Company A anything until after you have signed and returned the contract. There are many things can can change between the initial interview, and the start date. This is true even if you thought you understood everything.
Some companies will only have vague statements about benefits on their website. But you might not realize until they send you the contract that it doesn't include something. They might not have a good retirement plan, or the health insurance could be very expensive.
You might find that the company wants to put you on a different project or move you to a different location.
The contract should have an expiration date, and a method of accepting the contract. They will most likely followup in a day or two, to urge you to sign. If you want to see a contract from Company B you will have to get them to act fast, or risk having to make a decision at the last minute.
When the deadline is reached for company A you will have to accept or reject the contract. If you reject or let it expire they will move on to the second candidate. If you accept they will wait a day or two and either inform the 2nd candidate the the position is filled, or try to find them a new position.
If you switch to company B after accepting the contract from company A, they will be disappointed, or upset, but are unlikely to sue you. The exception is if they spent additional funds for a background check, or to move you, then they might want to recover damages. I did see one case where the employee accepted a position with the government, but the back ground investigation took over a year. When the government checked back with the employee, they discovered that they had accepted a another government job and didn't want to go with the first agency. The 2nd agency only took 30 days to complete the investigation.
The penalty for backing out will be an inability to ever work for that group again.
answered Aug 5 '12 at 18:29
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
You don't owe Company A anything until after you have signed and returned the contract. There are many things can can change between the initial interview, and the start date. This is true even if you thought you understood everything.
Some companies will only have vague statements about benefits on their website. But you might not realize until they send you the contract that it doesn't include something. They might not have a good retirement plan, or the health insurance could be very expensive.
You might find that the company wants to put you on a different project or move you to a different location.
The contract should have an expiration date, and a method of accepting the contract. They will most likely followup in a day or two, to urge you to sign. If you want to see a contract from Company B you will have to get them to act fast, or risk having to make a decision at the last minute.
When the deadline is reached for company A you will have to accept or reject the contract. If you reject or let it expire they will move on to the second candidate. If you accept they will wait a day or two and either inform the 2nd candidate the the position is filled, or try to find them a new position.
If you switch to company B after accepting the contract from company A, they will be disappointed, or upset, but are unlikely to sue you. The exception is if they spent additional funds for a background check, or to move you, then they might want to recover damages. I did see one case where the employee accepted a position with the government, but the back ground investigation took over a year. When the government checked back with the employee, they discovered that they had accepted a another government job and didn't want to go with the first agency. The 2nd agency only took 30 days to complete the investigation.
The penalty for backing out will be an inability to ever work for that group again.
answered Aug 5 '12 at 18:29
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
add a comment |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
You don't owe Company A anything until after you have signed and returned the contract. There are many things can can change between the initial interview, and the start date. This is true even if you thought you understood everything.
Some companies will only have vague statements about benefits on their website. But you might not realize until they send you the contract that it doesn't include something. They might not have a good retirement plan, or the health insurance could be very expensive.
You might find that the company wants to put you on a different project or move you to a different location.
The contract should have an expiration date, and a method of accepting the contract. They will most likely followup in a day or two, to urge you to sign. If you want to see a contract from Company B you will have to get them to act fast, or risk having to make a decision at the last minute.
When the deadline is reached for company A you will have to accept or reject the contract. If you reject or let it expire they will move on to the second candidate. If you accept they will wait a day or two and either inform the 2nd candidate the the position is filled, or try to find them a new position.
If you switch to company B after accepting the contract from company A, they will be disappointed, or upset, but are unlikely to sue you. The exception is if they spent additional funds for a background check, or to move you, then they might want to recover damages. I did see one case where the employee accepted a position with the government, but the back ground investigation took over a year. When the government checked back with the employee, they discovered that they had accepted a another government job and didn't want to go with the first agency. The 2nd agency only took 30 days to complete the investigation.
The penalty for backing out will be an inability to ever work for that group again.
answered Aug 5 '12 at 18:29
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
You don't owe Company A anything until after you have signed and returned the contract. There are many things can can change between the initial interview, and the start date. This is true even if you thought you understood everything.
Some companies will only have vague statements about benefits on their website. But you might not realize until they send you the contract that it doesn't include something. They might not have a good retirement plan, or the health insurance could be very expensive.
You might find that the company wants to put you on a different project or move you to a different location.
The contract should have an expiration date, and a method of accepting the contract. They will most likely followup in a day or two, to urge you to sign. If you want to see a contract from Company B you will have to get them to act fast, or risk having to make a decision at the last minute.
When the deadline is reached for company A you will have to accept or reject the contract. If you reject or let it expire they will move on to the second candidate. If you accept they will wait a day or two and either inform the 2nd candidate the the position is filled, or try to find them a new position.
If you switch to company B after accepting the contract from company A, they will be disappointed, or upset, but are unlikely to sue you. The exception is if they spent additional funds for a background check, or to move you, then they might want to recover damages. I did see one case where the employee accepted a position with the government, but the back ground investigation took over a year. When the government checked back with the employee, they discovered that they had accepted a another government job and didn't want to go with the first agency. The 2nd agency only took 30 days to complete the investigation.
The penalty for backing out will be an inability to ever work for that group again.
answered Aug 5 '12 at 18:29
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answered Aug 5 '12 at 18:29
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answered Aug 5 '12 at 18:29
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"A verbal contract isn't worth the paper it's written on." - Samuel Goldwyn
– Oded
Jul 31 '12 at 19:39
In theory even if you sign a contract with Company A, you can inform them AFTER the fact, you actually will be working for Company B if you wanted. Of course don't expect to work for Company A or anyone Company A works with in the future.
– Ramhound
Aug 1 '12 at 15:47