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At my current workplace I have a new manager who is keen to micromanage, bully and undermine me. They set me so much work I have to leave work everyday at past midnight. Despite the fact I was promised study leave when I took the job a few months ago, the new manager is keen to renegotiate this settlement and is threatening to take this away from me. The manager constantly comes to DIY remedies to my incurable mental health issues. My main issue is the micromanagement, taking away my management responsibilities and suppressing my technical freedom.
My senior manager (who I technically report to) is keeping an ample distance from my situation despite the fact they hired this new manager.
I have a very close relationship with those on the company's board of directors. I negotiated some key partnership agreements with suppliers and I know the systems infrastructure better than anyone else. I am keen to see a massive upgrade job I architected through and continue to have close relationships with the massive companies who I saw through the partnership agreements with. The CEO once told me to tell him if I have any issues with this manager as I think the CEO has a negative impression of them.
My new manager and another manager close to the board also attempted to demote me from Lead Developer, I managed to prevent this by telling the directors that if this was attempted I would resign so now my manager is attempting to do this through an unofficial route.
Despite this I have a job offer at another company ready for me as the company's first in house software engineer which offers to add $22 000 to my salary, I would have a 1.5 hour extra drive (though I have been wanting to move further away for a while). The company is more formal though (more of a classic engineering environement).
My company decided to extend my probationary period meaning I can leave at a few days notice. A director told me he thought extending my probationary period was unfair for me as my managers told me I was doing a terrible job (he blamed himself saying he failed to report back to them what I had done).
As I see things I have two options; I could resign and state my problems in my resignation letter (forcing my company to fix them or see the back of me), or alternatively write a quiet letter to the CEO stating my issues with my line manager and potentially CC in another director I am close to? If so how do I approach either one of these solutions?
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closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, Jim G., gnat, Philip Kendall, Carson63000 Oct 10 '15 at 23:29
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At my current workplace I have a new manager who is keen to micromanage, bully and undermine me. They set me so much work I have to leave work everyday at past midnight. Despite the fact I was promised study leave when I took the job a few months ago, the new manager is keen to renegotiate this settlement and is threatening to take this away from me. The manager constantly comes to DIY remedies to my incurable mental health issues. My main issue is the micromanagement, taking away my management responsibilities and suppressing my technical freedom.
My senior manager (who I technically report to) is keeping an ample distance from my situation despite the fact they hired this new manager.
I have a very close relationship with those on the company's board of directors. I negotiated some key partnership agreements with suppliers and I know the systems infrastructure better than anyone else. I am keen to see a massive upgrade job I architected through and continue to have close relationships with the massive companies who I saw through the partnership agreements with. The CEO once told me to tell him if I have any issues with this manager as I think the CEO has a negative impression of them.
My new manager and another manager close to the board also attempted to demote me from Lead Developer, I managed to prevent this by telling the directors that if this was attempted I would resign so now my manager is attempting to do this through an unofficial route.
Despite this I have a job offer at another company ready for me as the company's first in house software engineer which offers to add $22 000 to my salary, I would have a 1.5 hour extra drive (though I have been wanting to move further away for a while). The company is more formal though (more of a classic engineering environement).
My company decided to extend my probationary period meaning I can leave at a few days notice. A director told me he thought extending my probationary period was unfair for me as my managers told me I was doing a terrible job (he blamed himself saying he failed to report back to them what I had done).
As I see things I have two options; I could resign and state my problems in my resignation letter (forcing my company to fix them or see the back of me), or alternatively write a quiet letter to the CEO stating my issues with my line manager and potentially CC in another director I am close to? If so how do I approach either one of these solutions?
professionalism management bullying
closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, Jim G., gnat, Philip Kendall, Carson63000 Oct 10 '15 at 23:29
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- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, Philip Kendall, Carson63000
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1) you must have a different definition of a "relaxed" workplace 2) don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state that your leaving day.
– Nathan Cooper
Oct 10 '15 at 18:04
I have edited it to clarify it; what I meant is it seemed less casual; more formal, everyone was a lot older and dressed formally.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:17
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How are you still on a probationary period yet you have negotiated high level deals for the company and have done history as lead developer?
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At my current workplace I have a new manager who is keen to micromanage, bully and undermine me. They set me so much work I have to leave work everyday at past midnight. Despite the fact I was promised study leave when I took the job a few months ago, the new manager is keen to renegotiate this settlement and is threatening to take this away from me. The manager constantly comes to DIY remedies to my incurable mental health issues. My main issue is the micromanagement, taking away my management responsibilities and suppressing my technical freedom.
My senior manager (who I technically report to) is keeping an ample distance from my situation despite the fact they hired this new manager.
I have a very close relationship with those on the company's board of directors. I negotiated some key partnership agreements with suppliers and I know the systems infrastructure better than anyone else. I am keen to see a massive upgrade job I architected through and continue to have close relationships with the massive companies who I saw through the partnership agreements with. The CEO once told me to tell him if I have any issues with this manager as I think the CEO has a negative impression of them.
My new manager and another manager close to the board also attempted to demote me from Lead Developer, I managed to prevent this by telling the directors that if this was attempted I would resign so now my manager is attempting to do this through an unofficial route.
Despite this I have a job offer at another company ready for me as the company's first in house software engineer which offers to add $22 000 to my salary, I would have a 1.5 hour extra drive (though I have been wanting to move further away for a while). The company is more formal though (more of a classic engineering environement).
My company decided to extend my probationary period meaning I can leave at a few days notice. A director told me he thought extending my probationary period was unfair for me as my managers told me I was doing a terrible job (he blamed himself saying he failed to report back to them what I had done).
As I see things I have two options; I could resign and state my problems in my resignation letter (forcing my company to fix them or see the back of me), or alternatively write a quiet letter to the CEO stating my issues with my line manager and potentially CC in another director I am close to? If so how do I approach either one of these solutions?
professionalism management bullying
At my current workplace I have a new manager who is keen to micromanage, bully and undermine me. They set me so much work I have to leave work everyday at past midnight. Despite the fact I was promised study leave when I took the job a few months ago, the new manager is keen to renegotiate this settlement and is threatening to take this away from me. The manager constantly comes to DIY remedies to my incurable mental health issues. My main issue is the micromanagement, taking away my management responsibilities and suppressing my technical freedom.
My senior manager (who I technically report to) is keeping an ample distance from my situation despite the fact they hired this new manager.
I have a very close relationship with those on the company's board of directors. I negotiated some key partnership agreements with suppliers and I know the systems infrastructure better than anyone else. I am keen to see a massive upgrade job I architected through and continue to have close relationships with the massive companies who I saw through the partnership agreements with. The CEO once told me to tell him if I have any issues with this manager as I think the CEO has a negative impression of them.
My new manager and another manager close to the board also attempted to demote me from Lead Developer, I managed to prevent this by telling the directors that if this was attempted I would resign so now my manager is attempting to do this through an unofficial route.
Despite this I have a job offer at another company ready for me as the company's first in house software engineer which offers to add $22 000 to my salary, I would have a 1.5 hour extra drive (though I have been wanting to move further away for a while). The company is more formal though (more of a classic engineering environement).
My company decided to extend my probationary period meaning I can leave at a few days notice. A director told me he thought extending my probationary period was unfair for me as my managers told me I was doing a terrible job (he blamed himself saying he failed to report back to them what I had done).
As I see things I have two options; I could resign and state my problems in my resignation letter (forcing my company to fix them or see the back of me), or alternatively write a quiet letter to the CEO stating my issues with my line manager and potentially CC in another director I am close to? If so how do I approach either one of these solutions?
professionalism management bullying
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closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, Jim G., gnat, Philip Kendall, Carson63000 Oct 10 '15 at 23:29
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- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, Philip Kendall, Carson63000
- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Jan Doggen, Jim G.
closed as off-topic by Jan Doggen, Jim G., gnat, Philip Kendall, Carson63000 Oct 10 '15 at 23:29
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave these specific reasons:
- "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, Philip Kendall, Carson63000
- "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – Jan Doggen, Jim G.
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1) you must have a different definition of a "relaxed" workplace 2) don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state that your leaving day.
– Nathan Cooper
Oct 10 '15 at 18:04
I have edited it to clarify it; what I meant is it seemed less casual; more formal, everyone was a lot older and dressed formally.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:17
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How are you still on a probationary period yet you have negotiated high level deals for the company and have done history as lead developer?
– Eric
Oct 11 '15 at 16:23
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1) you must have a different definition of a "relaxed" workplace 2) don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state that your leaving day.
– Nathan Cooper
Oct 10 '15 at 18:04
I have edited it to clarify it; what I meant is it seemed less casual; more formal, everyone was a lot older and dressed formally.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:17
1
How are you still on a probationary period yet you have negotiated high level deals for the company and have done history as lead developer?
– Eric
Oct 11 '15 at 16:23
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1) you must have a different definition of a "relaxed" workplace 2) don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state that your leaving day.
– Nathan Cooper
Oct 10 '15 at 18:04
1) you must have a different definition of a "relaxed" workplace 2) don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state that your leaving day.
– Nathan Cooper
Oct 10 '15 at 18:04
I have edited it to clarify it; what I meant is it seemed less casual; more formal, everyone was a lot older and dressed formally.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:17
I have edited it to clarify it; what I meant is it seemed less casual; more formal, everyone was a lot older and dressed formally.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:17
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How are you still on a probationary period yet you have negotiated high level deals for the company and have done history as lead developer?
– Eric
Oct 11 '15 at 16:23
How are you still on a probationary period yet you have negotiated high level deals for the company and have done history as lead developer?
– Eric
Oct 11 '15 at 16:23
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If you are regularly working past midnight, unless you start at 4pm, or unless you are paid for your overtime, I would run away from that job. If you are offered significantly higher pay elsewhere, there is just no question.
It's quite pointless to say anything about your reasons in your resignation letter. And of course they asked you to stay, where else would they find someone who works past midnight? (Apparently they believe that benefits the company, the fools).
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I start at 8:45 AM, once my manager had a go at me for being a few minutes late after I stayed until 3AM that morning. :p
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 21:56
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This sounds positively kafkaesque. You already leave past midnight at your current job. A 3hr daily drive to a less relaxed (seriously? less relaxed?) company sounds like an upgrade to me. This reads like they want you out or don't care enough if you leave, or can't see there is a problem.
Knowledge of systems: In business everyone is indispensable but no one irreplaceable. They might scramble for a bit to learn the processes you put in place but that's just another day at the office. The power of your presence is to provide less inconvenience to them in that respect, not deprive them of your knowledge. It seems that you're either over- or they're under-estimating your value to the company.
Burning Bridges It's generally a bad idea to say too much in an exit interview. I have no personal experience in this but I've reached that conclusion after reading the following questions on the subject:
- Should I tell my boss I'm leaving because of them?
- How much should I say in an exit interview?
Ultimatums aren't looked kindly upon either. If you are submitting a resignation letter, the time for negotiations is past. Nathan's advice is spot-on here:
Don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state your leaving day
Caveat Emptor All of the above are the conclusion I reached to after reading the situation as you have presented it. As your perception, and my understanding, of it may be off, take my advice with a pinch of salt. I'm advocating that you take the new job and that's a huge decision, that no internet pundit can make for you.
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I think there is a difference of opinion between my new manager and the board. The directors have asked me not to leave before and said they want me to stay, my issue has been raised at a company board meeting before; little action though.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:18
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If you are regularly working past midnight, unless you start at 4pm, or unless you are paid for your overtime, I would run away from that job. If you are offered significantly higher pay elsewhere, there is just no question.
It's quite pointless to say anything about your reasons in your resignation letter. And of course they asked you to stay, where else would they find someone who works past midnight? (Apparently they believe that benefits the company, the fools).
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I start at 8:45 AM, once my manager had a go at me for being a few minutes late after I stayed until 3AM that morning. :p
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 21:56
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If you are regularly working past midnight, unless you start at 4pm, or unless you are paid for your overtime, I would run away from that job. If you are offered significantly higher pay elsewhere, there is just no question.
It's quite pointless to say anything about your reasons in your resignation letter. And of course they asked you to stay, where else would they find someone who works past midnight? (Apparently they believe that benefits the company, the fools).
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I start at 8:45 AM, once my manager had a go at me for being a few minutes late after I stayed until 3AM that morning. :p
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 21:56
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If you are regularly working past midnight, unless you start at 4pm, or unless you are paid for your overtime, I would run away from that job. If you are offered significantly higher pay elsewhere, there is just no question.
It's quite pointless to say anything about your reasons in your resignation letter. And of course they asked you to stay, where else would they find someone who works past midnight? (Apparently they believe that benefits the company, the fools).
If you are regularly working past midnight, unless you start at 4pm, or unless you are paid for your overtime, I would run away from that job. If you are offered significantly higher pay elsewhere, there is just no question.
It's quite pointless to say anything about your reasons in your resignation letter. And of course they asked you to stay, where else would they find someone who works past midnight? (Apparently they believe that benefits the company, the fools).
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I start at 8:45 AM, once my manager had a go at me for being a few minutes late after I stayed until 3AM that morning. :p
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 21:56
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I start at 8:45 AM, once my manager had a go at me for being a few minutes late after I stayed until 3AM that morning. :p
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 21:56
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I start at 8:45 AM, once my manager had a go at me for being a few minutes late after I stayed until 3AM that morning. :p
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 21:56
I start at 8:45 AM, once my manager had a go at me for being a few minutes late after I stayed until 3AM that morning. :p
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 21:56
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This sounds positively kafkaesque. You already leave past midnight at your current job. A 3hr daily drive to a less relaxed (seriously? less relaxed?) company sounds like an upgrade to me. This reads like they want you out or don't care enough if you leave, or can't see there is a problem.
Knowledge of systems: In business everyone is indispensable but no one irreplaceable. They might scramble for a bit to learn the processes you put in place but that's just another day at the office. The power of your presence is to provide less inconvenience to them in that respect, not deprive them of your knowledge. It seems that you're either over- or they're under-estimating your value to the company.
Burning Bridges It's generally a bad idea to say too much in an exit interview. I have no personal experience in this but I've reached that conclusion after reading the following questions on the subject:
- Should I tell my boss I'm leaving because of them?
- How much should I say in an exit interview?
Ultimatums aren't looked kindly upon either. If you are submitting a resignation letter, the time for negotiations is past. Nathan's advice is spot-on here:
Don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state your leaving day
Caveat Emptor All of the above are the conclusion I reached to after reading the situation as you have presented it. As your perception, and my understanding, of it may be off, take my advice with a pinch of salt. I'm advocating that you take the new job and that's a huge decision, that no internet pundit can make for you.
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I think there is a difference of opinion between my new manager and the board. The directors have asked me not to leave before and said they want me to stay, my issue has been raised at a company board meeting before; little action though.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:18
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
4
down vote
This sounds positively kafkaesque. You already leave past midnight at your current job. A 3hr daily drive to a less relaxed (seriously? less relaxed?) company sounds like an upgrade to me. This reads like they want you out or don't care enough if you leave, or can't see there is a problem.
Knowledge of systems: In business everyone is indispensable but no one irreplaceable. They might scramble for a bit to learn the processes you put in place but that's just another day at the office. The power of your presence is to provide less inconvenience to them in that respect, not deprive them of your knowledge. It seems that you're either over- or they're under-estimating your value to the company.
Burning Bridges It's generally a bad idea to say too much in an exit interview. I have no personal experience in this but I've reached that conclusion after reading the following questions on the subject:
- Should I tell my boss I'm leaving because of them?
- How much should I say in an exit interview?
Ultimatums aren't looked kindly upon either. If you are submitting a resignation letter, the time for negotiations is past. Nathan's advice is spot-on here:
Don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state your leaving day
Caveat Emptor All of the above are the conclusion I reached to after reading the situation as you have presented it. As your perception, and my understanding, of it may be off, take my advice with a pinch of salt. I'm advocating that you take the new job and that's a huge decision, that no internet pundit can make for you.
1
I think there is a difference of opinion between my new manager and the board. The directors have asked me not to leave before and said they want me to stay, my issue has been raised at a company board meeting before; little action though.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:18
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
This sounds positively kafkaesque. You already leave past midnight at your current job. A 3hr daily drive to a less relaxed (seriously? less relaxed?) company sounds like an upgrade to me. This reads like they want you out or don't care enough if you leave, or can't see there is a problem.
Knowledge of systems: In business everyone is indispensable but no one irreplaceable. They might scramble for a bit to learn the processes you put in place but that's just another day at the office. The power of your presence is to provide less inconvenience to them in that respect, not deprive them of your knowledge. It seems that you're either over- or they're under-estimating your value to the company.
Burning Bridges It's generally a bad idea to say too much in an exit interview. I have no personal experience in this but I've reached that conclusion after reading the following questions on the subject:
- Should I tell my boss I'm leaving because of them?
- How much should I say in an exit interview?
Ultimatums aren't looked kindly upon either. If you are submitting a resignation letter, the time for negotiations is past. Nathan's advice is spot-on here:
Don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state your leaving day
Caveat Emptor All of the above are the conclusion I reached to after reading the situation as you have presented it. As your perception, and my understanding, of it may be off, take my advice with a pinch of salt. I'm advocating that you take the new job and that's a huge decision, that no internet pundit can make for you.
This sounds positively kafkaesque. You already leave past midnight at your current job. A 3hr daily drive to a less relaxed (seriously? less relaxed?) company sounds like an upgrade to me. This reads like they want you out or don't care enough if you leave, or can't see there is a problem.
Knowledge of systems: In business everyone is indispensable but no one irreplaceable. They might scramble for a bit to learn the processes you put in place but that's just another day at the office. The power of your presence is to provide less inconvenience to them in that respect, not deprive them of your knowledge. It seems that you're either over- or they're under-estimating your value to the company.
Burning Bridges It's generally a bad idea to say too much in an exit interview. I have no personal experience in this but I've reached that conclusion after reading the following questions on the subject:
- Should I tell my boss I'm leaving because of them?
- How much should I say in an exit interview?
Ultimatums aren't looked kindly upon either. If you are submitting a resignation letter, the time for negotiations is past. Nathan's advice is spot-on here:
Don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state your leaving day
Caveat Emptor All of the above are the conclusion I reached to after reading the situation as you have presented it. As your perception, and my understanding, of it may be off, take my advice with a pinch of salt. I'm advocating that you take the new job and that's a huge decision, that no internet pundit can make for you.
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I think there is a difference of opinion between my new manager and the board. The directors have asked me not to leave before and said they want me to stay, my issue has been raised at a company board meeting before; little action though.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:18
suggest improvements |Â
1
I think there is a difference of opinion between my new manager and the board. The directors have asked me not to leave before and said they want me to stay, my issue has been raised at a company board meeting before; little action though.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:18
1
1
I think there is a difference of opinion between my new manager and the board. The directors have asked me not to leave before and said they want me to stay, my issue has been raised at a company board meeting before; little action though.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:18
I think there is a difference of opinion between my new manager and the board. The directors have asked me not to leave before and said they want me to stay, my issue has been raised at a company board meeting before; little action though.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:18
suggest improvements |Â
1
1) you must have a different definition of a "relaxed" workplace 2) don't editorialise in resignation letters, simply state that your leaving day.
– Nathan Cooper
Oct 10 '15 at 18:04
I have edited it to clarify it; what I meant is it seemed less casual; more formal, everyone was a lot older and dressed formally.
– opti
Oct 10 '15 at 18:17
1
How are you still on a probationary period yet you have negotiated high level deals for the company and have done history as lead developer?
– Eric
Oct 11 '15 at 16:23