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I applied to a job via craigslist post. Person contacted me and asked a few qualification questions. My email disclosed my website, and resume and Linkedin.



They then proceeded to ask me for job references. I said I would like to learn more about the company and their website and location and they refused to provide any info by stating they can't provide any info until I give them references. To add to the matter, their email is company_name@gmail.com, the email did not contain persons name or signature or anything. Is that a normal practice or should I be wary in my proceedings?







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    Run! Run like the wind!
    – Marv Mills
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:35






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    That just screams "SCAM!" to me
    – DLS3141
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






  • 79




    This is a bottom-feeder recruiter, at best. An identity thief, at worst.
    – Wesley Long
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






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    Yup. I can't think of any possible scenario that reasonably explains this other than this "job" being a front for somebody who wants to get your references. Probably some unscrupulous recruiter. Or worse. Do not give them anything.
    – Francine DeGrood Taylor
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:40







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    yeah upon further investigation i found out that it is a front of some sort as they have spammed many job websites with various emails as a carpet cleaning business which was ok with paying a substantial salary to a web designer hahaha thank you all for the info
    – Stanley VM
    Mar 16 '16 at 17:07
















up vote
74
down vote

favorite












I applied to a job via craigslist post. Person contacted me and asked a few qualification questions. My email disclosed my website, and resume and Linkedin.



They then proceeded to ask me for job references. I said I would like to learn more about the company and their website and location and they refused to provide any info by stating they can't provide any info until I give them references. To add to the matter, their email is company_name@gmail.com, the email did not contain persons name or signature or anything. Is that a normal practice or should I be wary in my proceedings?







share|improve this question

















  • 137




    Run! Run like the wind!
    – Marv Mills
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:35






  • 66




    That just screams "SCAM!" to me
    – DLS3141
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






  • 79




    This is a bottom-feeder recruiter, at best. An identity thief, at worst.
    – Wesley Long
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






  • 18




    Yup. I can't think of any possible scenario that reasonably explains this other than this "job" being a front for somebody who wants to get your references. Probably some unscrupulous recruiter. Or worse. Do not give them anything.
    – Francine DeGrood Taylor
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:40







  • 20




    yeah upon further investigation i found out that it is a front of some sort as they have spammed many job websites with various emails as a carpet cleaning business which was ok with paying a substantial salary to a web designer hahaha thank you all for the info
    – Stanley VM
    Mar 16 '16 at 17:07












up vote
74
down vote

favorite









up vote
74
down vote

favorite











I applied to a job via craigslist post. Person contacted me and asked a few qualification questions. My email disclosed my website, and resume and Linkedin.



They then proceeded to ask me for job references. I said I would like to learn more about the company and their website and location and they refused to provide any info by stating they can't provide any info until I give them references. To add to the matter, their email is company_name@gmail.com, the email did not contain persons name or signature or anything. Is that a normal practice or should I be wary in my proceedings?







share|improve this question













I applied to a job via craigslist post. Person contacted me and asked a few qualification questions. My email disclosed my website, and resume and Linkedin.



They then proceeded to ask me for job references. I said I would like to learn more about the company and their website and location and they refused to provide any info by stating they can't provide any info until I give them references. To add to the matter, their email is company_name@gmail.com, the email did not contain persons name or signature or anything. Is that a normal practice or should I be wary in my proceedings?









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  • 137




    Run! Run like the wind!
    – Marv Mills
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:35






  • 66




    That just screams "SCAM!" to me
    – DLS3141
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






  • 79




    This is a bottom-feeder recruiter, at best. An identity thief, at worst.
    – Wesley Long
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






  • 18




    Yup. I can't think of any possible scenario that reasonably explains this other than this "job" being a front for somebody who wants to get your references. Probably some unscrupulous recruiter. Or worse. Do not give them anything.
    – Francine DeGrood Taylor
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:40







  • 20




    yeah upon further investigation i found out that it is a front of some sort as they have spammed many job websites with various emails as a carpet cleaning business which was ok with paying a substantial salary to a web designer hahaha thank you all for the info
    – Stanley VM
    Mar 16 '16 at 17:07












  • 137




    Run! Run like the wind!
    – Marv Mills
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:35






  • 66




    That just screams "SCAM!" to me
    – DLS3141
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






  • 79




    This is a bottom-feeder recruiter, at best. An identity thief, at worst.
    – Wesley Long
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:39






  • 18




    Yup. I can't think of any possible scenario that reasonably explains this other than this "job" being a front for somebody who wants to get your references. Probably some unscrupulous recruiter. Or worse. Do not give them anything.
    – Francine DeGrood Taylor
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:40







  • 20




    yeah upon further investigation i found out that it is a front of some sort as they have spammed many job websites with various emails as a carpet cleaning business which was ok with paying a substantial salary to a web designer hahaha thank you all for the info
    – Stanley VM
    Mar 16 '16 at 17:07







137




137




Run! Run like the wind!
– Marv Mills
Mar 16 '16 at 16:35




Run! Run like the wind!
– Marv Mills
Mar 16 '16 at 16:35




66




66




That just screams "SCAM!" to me
– DLS3141
Mar 16 '16 at 16:39




That just screams "SCAM!" to me
– DLS3141
Mar 16 '16 at 16:39




79




79




This is a bottom-feeder recruiter, at best. An identity thief, at worst.
– Wesley Long
Mar 16 '16 at 16:39




This is a bottom-feeder recruiter, at best. An identity thief, at worst.
– Wesley Long
Mar 16 '16 at 16:39




18




18




Yup. I can't think of any possible scenario that reasonably explains this other than this "job" being a front for somebody who wants to get your references. Probably some unscrupulous recruiter. Or worse. Do not give them anything.
– Francine DeGrood Taylor
Mar 16 '16 at 16:40





Yup. I can't think of any possible scenario that reasonably explains this other than this "job" being a front for somebody who wants to get your references. Probably some unscrupulous recruiter. Or worse. Do not give them anything.
– Francine DeGrood Taylor
Mar 16 '16 at 16:40





20




20




yeah upon further investigation i found out that it is a front of some sort as they have spammed many job websites with various emails as a carpet cleaning business which was ok with paying a substantial salary to a web designer hahaha thank you all for the info
– Stanley VM
Mar 16 '16 at 17:07




yeah upon further investigation i found out that it is a front of some sort as they have spammed many job websites with various emails as a carpet cleaning business which was ok with paying a substantial salary to a web designer hahaha thank you all for the info
– Stanley VM
Mar 16 '16 at 17:07










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Don't do it! This is a recruiter looking to get you to provide managerial references. You'll never hear from that person again, and they'll be plugging your references for new business.



Old scam.






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  • 65




    I think you're being optimistic in thinking this is even a recruiter.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:42






  • 6




    Information on a resume is pretty generic and useless to a marketer without some demographics. But phone numbers to hiring managers are GOLDEN! :)
    – Xavier J
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:44






  • 10




    Right, but phone numbers and job references are valuable to someone trying to open a store credit card in your name and buy a large screen TV.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:51






  • 16




    A colleague responded: "Sure! Here is my current manager's phone number." Then gave them the phone number to the local Sheriff's Department. :)
    – MealyPotatoes
    Mar 16 '16 at 21:29






  • 5




    @codenoire I did some consulting work for the fraud department of a major credit card company. SSN is trivially easy to obtain if you have other details such as phone numbers and employment history.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 17 '16 at 17:28

















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Yes it is normal practice for meeting a creep. At worst they might ask for pictures and if you like leather or being tied up.



At best they are a fishy company with little funding and pay. In the middle they might just be skimming for contacts.



Verdict: Don't. Ignore future contact unless you just feel like messing with them with fake info.



(you can give them a series of email address and fake people to see what things these people get in the future)






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    I like the idea of providing fake contact information and faking being your own references to see what happens to them.
    – Bobson
    Mar 16 '16 at 19:32






  • 1




    Or, create a few e-mail accounts for the 'references' and see what comes in.
    – CramerTV
    Mar 17 '16 at 19:45










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Don't do it! This is a recruiter looking to get you to provide managerial references. You'll never hear from that person again, and they'll be plugging your references for new business.



Old scam.






share|improve this answer

















  • 65




    I think you're being optimistic in thinking this is even a recruiter.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:42






  • 6




    Information on a resume is pretty generic and useless to a marketer without some demographics. But phone numbers to hiring managers are GOLDEN! :)
    – Xavier J
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:44






  • 10




    Right, but phone numbers and job references are valuable to someone trying to open a store credit card in your name and buy a large screen TV.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:51






  • 16




    A colleague responded: "Sure! Here is my current manager's phone number." Then gave them the phone number to the local Sheriff's Department. :)
    – MealyPotatoes
    Mar 16 '16 at 21:29






  • 5




    @codenoire I did some consulting work for the fraud department of a major credit card company. SSN is trivially easy to obtain if you have other details such as phone numbers and employment history.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 17 '16 at 17:28














up vote
104
down vote



accepted










Don't do it! This is a recruiter looking to get you to provide managerial references. You'll never hear from that person again, and they'll be plugging your references for new business.



Old scam.






share|improve this answer

















  • 65




    I think you're being optimistic in thinking this is even a recruiter.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:42






  • 6




    Information on a resume is pretty generic and useless to a marketer without some demographics. But phone numbers to hiring managers are GOLDEN! :)
    – Xavier J
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:44






  • 10




    Right, but phone numbers and job references are valuable to someone trying to open a store credit card in your name and buy a large screen TV.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:51






  • 16




    A colleague responded: "Sure! Here is my current manager's phone number." Then gave them the phone number to the local Sheriff's Department. :)
    – MealyPotatoes
    Mar 16 '16 at 21:29






  • 5




    @codenoire I did some consulting work for the fraud department of a major credit card company. SSN is trivially easy to obtain if you have other details such as phone numbers and employment history.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 17 '16 at 17:28












up vote
104
down vote



accepted







up vote
104
down vote



accepted






Don't do it! This is a recruiter looking to get you to provide managerial references. You'll never hear from that person again, and they'll be plugging your references for new business.



Old scam.






share|improve this answer













Don't do it! This is a recruiter looking to get you to provide managerial references. You'll never hear from that person again, and they'll be plugging your references for new business.



Old scam.







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  • 65




    I think you're being optimistic in thinking this is even a recruiter.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:42






  • 6




    Information on a resume is pretty generic and useless to a marketer without some demographics. But phone numbers to hiring managers are GOLDEN! :)
    – Xavier J
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:44






  • 10




    Right, but phone numbers and job references are valuable to someone trying to open a store credit card in your name and buy a large screen TV.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:51






  • 16




    A colleague responded: "Sure! Here is my current manager's phone number." Then gave them the phone number to the local Sheriff's Department. :)
    – MealyPotatoes
    Mar 16 '16 at 21:29






  • 5




    @codenoire I did some consulting work for the fraud department of a major credit card company. SSN is trivially easy to obtain if you have other details such as phone numbers and employment history.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 17 '16 at 17:28












  • 65




    I think you're being optimistic in thinking this is even a recruiter.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:42






  • 6




    Information on a resume is pretty generic and useless to a marketer without some demographics. But phone numbers to hiring managers are GOLDEN! :)
    – Xavier J
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:44






  • 10




    Right, but phone numbers and job references are valuable to someone trying to open a store credit card in your name and buy a large screen TV.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 16 '16 at 16:51






  • 16




    A colleague responded: "Sure! Here is my current manager's phone number." Then gave them the phone number to the local Sheriff's Department. :)
    – MealyPotatoes
    Mar 16 '16 at 21:29






  • 5




    @codenoire I did some consulting work for the fraud department of a major credit card company. SSN is trivially easy to obtain if you have other details such as phone numbers and employment history.
    – Laconic Droid
    Mar 17 '16 at 17:28







65




65




I think you're being optimistic in thinking this is even a recruiter.
– Laconic Droid
Mar 16 '16 at 16:42




I think you're being optimistic in thinking this is even a recruiter.
– Laconic Droid
Mar 16 '16 at 16:42




6




6




Information on a resume is pretty generic and useless to a marketer without some demographics. But phone numbers to hiring managers are GOLDEN! :)
– Xavier J
Mar 16 '16 at 16:44




Information on a resume is pretty generic and useless to a marketer without some demographics. But phone numbers to hiring managers are GOLDEN! :)
– Xavier J
Mar 16 '16 at 16:44




10




10




Right, but phone numbers and job references are valuable to someone trying to open a store credit card in your name and buy a large screen TV.
– Laconic Droid
Mar 16 '16 at 16:51




Right, but phone numbers and job references are valuable to someone trying to open a store credit card in your name and buy a large screen TV.
– Laconic Droid
Mar 16 '16 at 16:51




16




16




A colleague responded: "Sure! Here is my current manager's phone number." Then gave them the phone number to the local Sheriff's Department. :)
– MealyPotatoes
Mar 16 '16 at 21:29




A colleague responded: "Sure! Here is my current manager's phone number." Then gave them the phone number to the local Sheriff's Department. :)
– MealyPotatoes
Mar 16 '16 at 21:29




5




5




@codenoire I did some consulting work for the fraud department of a major credit card company. SSN is trivially easy to obtain if you have other details such as phone numbers and employment history.
– Laconic Droid
Mar 17 '16 at 17:28




@codenoire I did some consulting work for the fraud department of a major credit card company. SSN is trivially easy to obtain if you have other details such as phone numbers and employment history.
– Laconic Droid
Mar 17 '16 at 17:28












up vote
52
down vote













Yes it is normal practice for meeting a creep. At worst they might ask for pictures and if you like leather or being tied up.



At best they are a fishy company with little funding and pay. In the middle they might just be skimming for contacts.



Verdict: Don't. Ignore future contact unless you just feel like messing with them with fake info.



(you can give them a series of email address and fake people to see what things these people get in the future)






share|improve this answer

















  • 36




    I like the idea of providing fake contact information and faking being your own references to see what happens to them.
    – Bobson
    Mar 16 '16 at 19:32






  • 1




    Or, create a few e-mail accounts for the 'references' and see what comes in.
    – CramerTV
    Mar 17 '16 at 19:45














up vote
52
down vote













Yes it is normal practice for meeting a creep. At worst they might ask for pictures and if you like leather or being tied up.



At best they are a fishy company with little funding and pay. In the middle they might just be skimming for contacts.



Verdict: Don't. Ignore future contact unless you just feel like messing with them with fake info.



(you can give them a series of email address and fake people to see what things these people get in the future)






share|improve this answer

















  • 36




    I like the idea of providing fake contact information and faking being your own references to see what happens to them.
    – Bobson
    Mar 16 '16 at 19:32






  • 1




    Or, create a few e-mail accounts for the 'references' and see what comes in.
    – CramerTV
    Mar 17 '16 at 19:45












up vote
52
down vote










up vote
52
down vote









Yes it is normal practice for meeting a creep. At worst they might ask for pictures and if you like leather or being tied up.



At best they are a fishy company with little funding and pay. In the middle they might just be skimming for contacts.



Verdict: Don't. Ignore future contact unless you just feel like messing with them with fake info.



(you can give them a series of email address and fake people to see what things these people get in the future)






share|improve this answer













Yes it is normal practice for meeting a creep. At worst they might ask for pictures and if you like leather or being tied up.



At best they are a fishy company with little funding and pay. In the middle they might just be skimming for contacts.



Verdict: Don't. Ignore future contact unless you just feel like messing with them with fake info.



(you can give them a series of email address and fake people to see what things these people get in the future)







share|improve this answer













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answered Mar 16 '16 at 16:40









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  • 36




    I like the idea of providing fake contact information and faking being your own references to see what happens to them.
    – Bobson
    Mar 16 '16 at 19:32






  • 1




    Or, create a few e-mail accounts for the 'references' and see what comes in.
    – CramerTV
    Mar 17 '16 at 19:45












  • 36




    I like the idea of providing fake contact information and faking being your own references to see what happens to them.
    – Bobson
    Mar 16 '16 at 19:32






  • 1




    Or, create a few e-mail accounts for the 'references' and see what comes in.
    – CramerTV
    Mar 17 '16 at 19:45







36




36




I like the idea of providing fake contact information and faking being your own references to see what happens to them.
– Bobson
Mar 16 '16 at 19:32




I like the idea of providing fake contact information and faking being your own references to see what happens to them.
– Bobson
Mar 16 '16 at 19:32




1




1




Or, create a few e-mail accounts for the 'references' and see what comes in.
– CramerTV
Mar 17 '16 at 19:45




Or, create a few e-mail accounts for the 'references' and see what comes in.
– CramerTV
Mar 17 '16 at 19:45












 

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