My coworkers get more pay than me, even though I have been longer at my workplace [closed]

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My coworkers earn around 30-40k more than I do. We do the same work, in fact I usually perform better than them and have been with the company longer. It does not seem fair. I don't feel comfortable raising this with my manager as we are not that friendly.



Is it better to leave my current position and join a new company for a better salary and more appreciation, or would it be best to stay and talk with my manager about my situation (even though I doubt it would make a difference).



Also, my bonus was deducted to pay some of my other co workers, which is also unfair. The company announced a 100% bonus, but some of my coworkers and myself were given about 90% while other colleagues (that my manager favors) were given an extra bonus. Can I sue the management for doing this, since the email mentions 100% bonus. Will it be wise to do this or to let it go?







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closed as off-topic by keshlam, paparazzo, gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦ Mar 10 '16 at 12:59


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  • "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Jane S

  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager

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    You're asking two questions that's not going to work out, especially since the last question ( about lawsuit) is off topic for this site. You talk to lawyers about law, not randoms on the internet.
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    Possible duplicate of workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/1025/…
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    Mar 10 '16 at 12:26






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    You are in a position you cannot talk about pay with your manager?
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    Mar 10 '16 at 12:48






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My coworkers earn around 30-40k more than I do. We do the same work, in fact I usually perform better than them and have been with the company longer. It does not seem fair. I don't feel comfortable raising this with my manager as we are not that friendly.



Is it better to leave my current position and join a new company for a better salary and more appreciation, or would it be best to stay and talk with my manager about my situation (even though I doubt it would make a difference).



Also, my bonus was deducted to pay some of my other co workers, which is also unfair. The company announced a 100% bonus, but some of my coworkers and myself were given about 90% while other colleagues (that my manager favors) were given an extra bonus. Can I sue the management for doing this, since the email mentions 100% bonus. Will it be wise to do this or to let it go?







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closed as off-topic by keshlam, paparazzo, gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦ Mar 10 '16 at 12:59


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave these specific reasons:


  • "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Jane S

  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager

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    You're asking two questions that's not going to work out, especially since the last question ( about lawsuit) is off topic for this site. You talk to lawyers about law, not randoms on the internet.
    – user41761
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:24






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    Possible duplicate of workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/1025/…
    – Jane S♦
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:26






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    You are in a position you cannot talk about pay with your manager?
    – paparazzo
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:48






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    This community will never grow, if you keep putting posts on hold.
    – Sidius
    Mar 10 '16 at 14:18






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    @Sidius: Take that to Meta, please. (And review what's already been said there about how SE differs from other communities.)
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My coworkers earn around 30-40k more than I do. We do the same work, in fact I usually perform better than them and have been with the company longer. It does not seem fair. I don't feel comfortable raising this with my manager as we are not that friendly.



Is it better to leave my current position and join a new company for a better salary and more appreciation, or would it be best to stay and talk with my manager about my situation (even though I doubt it would make a difference).



Also, my bonus was deducted to pay some of my other co workers, which is also unfair. The company announced a 100% bonus, but some of my coworkers and myself were given about 90% while other colleagues (that my manager favors) were given an extra bonus. Can I sue the management for doing this, since the email mentions 100% bonus. Will it be wise to do this or to let it go?







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My coworkers earn around 30-40k more than I do. We do the same work, in fact I usually perform better than them and have been with the company longer. It does not seem fair. I don't feel comfortable raising this with my manager as we are not that friendly.



Is it better to leave my current position and join a new company for a better salary and more appreciation, or would it be best to stay and talk with my manager about my situation (even though I doubt it would make a difference).



Also, my bonus was deducted to pay some of my other co workers, which is also unfair. The company announced a 100% bonus, but some of my coworkers and myself were given about 90% while other colleagues (that my manager favors) were given an extra bonus. Can I sue the management for doing this, since the email mentions 100% bonus. Will it be wise to do this or to let it go?









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closed as off-topic by keshlam, paparazzo, gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦ Mar 10 '16 at 12:59


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave these specific reasons:


  • "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Jane S

  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.




closed as off-topic by keshlam, paparazzo, gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦ Mar 10 '16 at 12:59


This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave these specific reasons:


  • "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Jane S

  • "Real questions have answers. Rather than explaining why your situation is terrible, or why your boss/coworker makes you unhappy, explain what you want to do to make it better. For more information, click here." – gnat, The Wandering Dev Manager

If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.







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    You're asking two questions that's not going to work out, especially since the last question ( about lawsuit) is off topic for this site. You talk to lawyers about law, not randoms on the internet.
    – user41761
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:24






  • 2




    Possible duplicate of workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/1025/…
    – Jane S♦
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:26






  • 2




    You are in a position you cannot talk about pay with your manager?
    – paparazzo
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:48






  • 4




    This community will never grow, if you keep putting posts on hold.
    – Sidius
    Mar 10 '16 at 14:18






  • 2




    @Sidius: Take that to Meta, please. (And review what's already been said there about how SE differs from other communities.)
    – keshlam
    Mar 10 '16 at 16:52












  • 2




    You're asking two questions that's not going to work out, especially since the last question ( about lawsuit) is off topic for this site. You talk to lawyers about law, not randoms on the internet.
    – user41761
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:24






  • 2




    Possible duplicate of workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/1025/…
    – Jane S♦
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:26






  • 2




    You are in a position you cannot talk about pay with your manager?
    – paparazzo
    Mar 10 '16 at 12:48






  • 4




    This community will never grow, if you keep putting posts on hold.
    – Sidius
    Mar 10 '16 at 14:18






  • 2




    @Sidius: Take that to Meta, please. (And review what's already been said there about how SE differs from other communities.)
    – keshlam
    Mar 10 '16 at 16:52







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You're asking two questions that's not going to work out, especially since the last question ( about lawsuit) is off topic for this site. You talk to lawyers about law, not randoms on the internet.
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 12:24




You're asking two questions that's not going to work out, especially since the last question ( about lawsuit) is off topic for this site. You talk to lawyers about law, not randoms on the internet.
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 12:24




2




2




Possible duplicate of workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/1025/…
– Jane S♦
Mar 10 '16 at 12:26




Possible duplicate of workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/1025/…
– Jane S♦
Mar 10 '16 at 12:26




2




2




You are in a position you cannot talk about pay with your manager?
– paparazzo
Mar 10 '16 at 12:48




You are in a position you cannot talk about pay with your manager?
– paparazzo
Mar 10 '16 at 12:48




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This community will never grow, if you keep putting posts on hold.
– Sidius
Mar 10 '16 at 14:18




This community will never grow, if you keep putting posts on hold.
– Sidius
Mar 10 '16 at 14:18




2




2




@Sidius: Take that to Meta, please. (And review what's already been said there about how SE differs from other communities.)
– keshlam
Mar 10 '16 at 16:52




@Sidius: Take that to Meta, please. (And review what's already been said there about how SE differs from other communities.)
– keshlam
Mar 10 '16 at 16:52










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Depends on if you want to stay at the company. Changing jobs can be a pain.



If you have solid information that other employees with similar job description are making significantly more than you, and it is a believable pay level for your profession, then ask for that pay. Don't bring rivalries into it ("I heard Jill makes more than me, and I want the same as her."). Schedule a time (do you have an annual performance review coming up?) and make your case. Highlight your successes, emphasize your good qualities, and mention projects that you have completed successfully -- especially if they increased revenue or decreased expenses. For example:



"There's something I'd like to talk to you about. I've been with the company for X years and have always received favorable performance reviews. I work hard and bring good value to the company. I am very proficient at my job. Two years ago I completed a project that streamlined our X process, on time, making sales go 20% faster. Also, I updated all of the old [file type] records in only 3 months. I have done some research, and I believe that for someone with my skill set, experience and proven work ethic, an appropriate salary would be $$$." Then stop talking and let him respond.



After addressing that issue, you can also bring up the bonus issue if you want. Have the emails printed out and ready. "Also, last year we were promised a 100% bonus, but I only received a 90% bonus. I'd like to know why I didn't receive the bonus I was promised."



Depending on his response, decide if the job is worth it. If not, start looking.






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    very convincing indeed. might give it a shot, thanks
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It seems you have raised the issue of pay with management - without any result. That must mean they don't acknowledge or value your results or they believe they can get away with paying you less.



In general, it is difficult to ever overcome starting at a lower wage - so if pay is your number one priority at the moment, it seems your only option is moving on.



Regarding the lawsuit, the risk/reward ratio seems unfavorable to you.






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    Depends on if you want to stay at the company. Changing jobs can be a pain.



    If you have solid information that other employees with similar job description are making significantly more than you, and it is a believable pay level for your profession, then ask for that pay. Don't bring rivalries into it ("I heard Jill makes more than me, and I want the same as her."). Schedule a time (do you have an annual performance review coming up?) and make your case. Highlight your successes, emphasize your good qualities, and mention projects that you have completed successfully -- especially if they increased revenue or decreased expenses. For example:



    "There's something I'd like to talk to you about. I've been with the company for X years and have always received favorable performance reviews. I work hard and bring good value to the company. I am very proficient at my job. Two years ago I completed a project that streamlined our X process, on time, making sales go 20% faster. Also, I updated all of the old [file type] records in only 3 months. I have done some research, and I believe that for someone with my skill set, experience and proven work ethic, an appropriate salary would be $$$." Then stop talking and let him respond.



    After addressing that issue, you can also bring up the bonus issue if you want. Have the emails printed out and ready. "Also, last year we were promised a 100% bonus, but I only received a 90% bonus. I'd like to know why I didn't receive the bonus I was promised."



    Depending on his response, decide if the job is worth it. If not, start looking.






    share|improve this answer

















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      very convincing indeed. might give it a shot, thanks
      – Marissa Nicholas
      Mar 13 '16 at 23:41














    up vote
    6
    down vote



    accepted










    Depends on if you want to stay at the company. Changing jobs can be a pain.



    If you have solid information that other employees with similar job description are making significantly more than you, and it is a believable pay level for your profession, then ask for that pay. Don't bring rivalries into it ("I heard Jill makes more than me, and I want the same as her."). Schedule a time (do you have an annual performance review coming up?) and make your case. Highlight your successes, emphasize your good qualities, and mention projects that you have completed successfully -- especially if they increased revenue or decreased expenses. For example:



    "There's something I'd like to talk to you about. I've been with the company for X years and have always received favorable performance reviews. I work hard and bring good value to the company. I am very proficient at my job. Two years ago I completed a project that streamlined our X process, on time, making sales go 20% faster. Also, I updated all of the old [file type] records in only 3 months. I have done some research, and I believe that for someone with my skill set, experience and proven work ethic, an appropriate salary would be $$$." Then stop talking and let him respond.



    After addressing that issue, you can also bring up the bonus issue if you want. Have the emails printed out and ready. "Also, last year we were promised a 100% bonus, but I only received a 90% bonus. I'd like to know why I didn't receive the bonus I was promised."



    Depending on his response, decide if the job is worth it. If not, start looking.






    share|improve this answer

















    • 1




      very convincing indeed. might give it a shot, thanks
      – Marissa Nicholas
      Mar 13 '16 at 23:41












    up vote
    6
    down vote



    accepted







    up vote
    6
    down vote



    accepted






    Depends on if you want to stay at the company. Changing jobs can be a pain.



    If you have solid information that other employees with similar job description are making significantly more than you, and it is a believable pay level for your profession, then ask for that pay. Don't bring rivalries into it ("I heard Jill makes more than me, and I want the same as her."). Schedule a time (do you have an annual performance review coming up?) and make your case. Highlight your successes, emphasize your good qualities, and mention projects that you have completed successfully -- especially if they increased revenue or decreased expenses. For example:



    "There's something I'd like to talk to you about. I've been with the company for X years and have always received favorable performance reviews. I work hard and bring good value to the company. I am very proficient at my job. Two years ago I completed a project that streamlined our X process, on time, making sales go 20% faster. Also, I updated all of the old [file type] records in only 3 months. I have done some research, and I believe that for someone with my skill set, experience and proven work ethic, an appropriate salary would be $$$." Then stop talking and let him respond.



    After addressing that issue, you can also bring up the bonus issue if you want. Have the emails printed out and ready. "Also, last year we were promised a 100% bonus, but I only received a 90% bonus. I'd like to know why I didn't receive the bonus I was promised."



    Depending on his response, decide if the job is worth it. If not, start looking.






    share|improve this answer













    Depends on if you want to stay at the company. Changing jobs can be a pain.



    If you have solid information that other employees with similar job description are making significantly more than you, and it is a believable pay level for your profession, then ask for that pay. Don't bring rivalries into it ("I heard Jill makes more than me, and I want the same as her."). Schedule a time (do you have an annual performance review coming up?) and make your case. Highlight your successes, emphasize your good qualities, and mention projects that you have completed successfully -- especially if they increased revenue or decreased expenses. For example:



    "There's something I'd like to talk to you about. I've been with the company for X years and have always received favorable performance reviews. I work hard and bring good value to the company. I am very proficient at my job. Two years ago I completed a project that streamlined our X process, on time, making sales go 20% faster. Also, I updated all of the old [file type] records in only 3 months. I have done some research, and I believe that for someone with my skill set, experience and proven work ethic, an appropriate salary would be $$$." Then stop talking and let him respond.



    After addressing that issue, you can also bring up the bonus issue if you want. Have the emails printed out and ready. "Also, last year we were promised a 100% bonus, but I only received a 90% bonus. I'd like to know why I didn't receive the bonus I was promised."



    Depending on his response, decide if the job is worth it. If not, start looking.







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      very convincing indeed. might give it a shot, thanks
      – Marissa Nicholas
      Mar 13 '16 at 23:41












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      very convincing indeed. might give it a shot, thanks
      – Marissa Nicholas
      Mar 13 '16 at 23:41







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    very convincing indeed. might give it a shot, thanks
    – Marissa Nicholas
    Mar 13 '16 at 23:41




    very convincing indeed. might give it a shot, thanks
    – Marissa Nicholas
    Mar 13 '16 at 23:41












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    It seems you have raised the issue of pay with management - without any result. That must mean they don't acknowledge or value your results or they believe they can get away with paying you less.



    In general, it is difficult to ever overcome starting at a lower wage - so if pay is your number one priority at the moment, it seems your only option is moving on.



    Regarding the lawsuit, the risk/reward ratio seems unfavorable to you.






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      up vote
      4
      down vote













      It seems you have raised the issue of pay with management - without any result. That must mean they don't acknowledge or value your results or they believe they can get away with paying you less.



      In general, it is difficult to ever overcome starting at a lower wage - so if pay is your number one priority at the moment, it seems your only option is moving on.



      Regarding the lawsuit, the risk/reward ratio seems unfavorable to you.






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        up vote
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        It seems you have raised the issue of pay with management - without any result. That must mean they don't acknowledge or value your results or they believe they can get away with paying you less.



        In general, it is difficult to ever overcome starting at a lower wage - so if pay is your number one priority at the moment, it seems your only option is moving on.



        Regarding the lawsuit, the risk/reward ratio seems unfavorable to you.






        share|improve this answer













        It seems you have raised the issue of pay with management - without any result. That must mean they don't acknowledge or value your results or they believe they can get away with paying you less.



        In general, it is difficult to ever overcome starting at a lower wage - so if pay is your number one priority at the moment, it seems your only option is moving on.



        Regarding the lawsuit, the risk/reward ratio seems unfavorable to you.







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