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Today I received my confirmation letter in my workplace as a Software Developer after completing my probation.
I applied to the advertisement which was looking for an Associate Software Engineer.(Software Developer < Associate Software Engineer) And I got recruited.This is my current workplace.
Designation is something important when looking for future career opportunities.
I haven't completed my college degree yet. But this is also not my first job either. So when I joined the company, they didn't talk anything about my designation.(They were aware that when I join the company that I haven't completed my college studies)
I thought when I get confirm, they may change the designation to Associate Software Engineer.But this has not happened.
Will it be a wise action to talk this with the HR manager? (I still don't have the degree)
I'm not in a situation to move to another company
job-change job-description probation
asked May 6 '15 at 16:55
Jude Niroshan
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Today I received my confirmation letter in my workplace as a Software Developer after completing my probation.
I applied to the advertisement which was looking for an Associate Software Engineer.(Software Developer < Associate Software Engineer) And I got recruited.This is my current workplace.
Designation is something important when looking for future career opportunities.
I haven't completed my college degree yet. But this is also not my first job either. So when I joined the company, they didn't talk anything about my designation.(They were aware that when I join the company that I haven't completed my college studies)
I thought when I get confirm, they may change the designation to Associate Software Engineer.But this has not happened.
Will it be a wise action to talk this with the HR manager? (I still don't have the degree)
I'm not in a situation to move to another company
job-change job-description probation
asked May 6 '15 at 16:55
Jude Niroshan
76531223
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Is there a reason the title is significant to you? Most companies have their own system for titles, and they don't necessarily translate to other companies. Your job description (official and what you actually do) are what your next employer will want to look at.
– Wesley Long
May 6 '15 at 17:02
Did you say on your resume or in your interview that you had completed your degree?
– Zibbobz
May 6 '15 at 17:03
Designation matter when applying for another company. So, there is clear difference between SD and ASE. ASE is someone who apply the disciplines of Engineering.
– Jude Niroshan
May 6 '15 at 17:05
If there's a problem or miscommunication then obviously you should talk to someone about it yes - it may be deliberate, in which case you should ask for an explanation, or it may have been an accident. Either way it's a reasonable conversation to have. But ideally you'd have done that straight away.
– Rup
May 6 '15 at 17:11
Check out this question - it's very similar if not the same?
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May 6 '15 at 17:29
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Today I received my confirmation letter in my workplace as a Software Developer after completing my probation.
I applied to the advertisement which was looking for an Associate Software Engineer.(Software Developer < Associate Software Engineer) And I got recruited.This is my current workplace.
Designation is something important when looking for future career opportunities.
I haven't completed my college degree yet. But this is also not my first job either. So when I joined the company, they didn't talk anything about my designation.(They were aware that when I join the company that I haven't completed my college studies)
I thought when I get confirm, they may change the designation to Associate Software Engineer.But this has not happened.
Will it be a wise action to talk this with the HR manager? (I still don't have the degree)
I'm not in a situation to move to another company
job-change job-description probation
asked May 6 '15 at 16:55
Jude Niroshan
76531223
Today I received my confirmation letter in my workplace as a Software Developer after completing my probation.
I applied to the advertisement which was looking for an Associate Software Engineer.(Software Developer < Associate Software Engineer) And I got recruited.This is my current workplace.
Designation is something important when looking for future career opportunities.
I haven't completed my college degree yet. But this is also not my first job either. So when I joined the company, they didn't talk anything about my designation.(They were aware that when I join the company that I haven't completed my college studies)
I thought when I get confirm, they may change the designation to Associate Software Engineer.But this has not happened.
Will it be a wise action to talk this with the HR manager? (I still don't have the degree)
I'm not in a situation to move to another company
job-change job-description probation
asked May 6 '15 at 16:55
Jude Niroshan
76531223
edited May 6 '15 at 17:27
asked May 6 '15 at 16:55
Jude Niroshan
76531223
asked May 6 '15 at 16:55
Jude Niroshan
76531223
asked May 6 '15 at 16:55
Jude Niroshan
76531223
76531223
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Is there a reason the title is significant to you? Most companies have their own system for titles, and they don't necessarily translate to other companies. Your job description (official and what you actually do) are what your next employer will want to look at.
– Wesley Long
May 6 '15 at 17:02
Did you say on your resume or in your interview that you had completed your degree?
– Zibbobz
May 6 '15 at 17:03
Designation matter when applying for another company. So, there is clear difference between SD and ASE. ASE is someone who apply the disciplines of Engineering.
– Jude Niroshan
May 6 '15 at 17:05
If there's a problem or miscommunication then obviously you should talk to someone about it yes - it may be deliberate, in which case you should ask for an explanation, or it may have been an accident. Either way it's a reasonable conversation to have. But ideally you'd have done that straight away.
– Rup
May 6 '15 at 17:11
Check out this question - it's very similar if not the same?
– Elysian Fields♦
May 6 '15 at 17:29
 |Â
show 2 more comments
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Is there a reason the title is significant to you? Most companies have their own system for titles, and they don't necessarily translate to other companies. Your job description (official and what you actually do) are what your next employer will want to look at.
– Wesley Long
May 6 '15 at 17:02
Did you say on your resume or in your interview that you had completed your degree?
– Zibbobz
May 6 '15 at 17:03
Designation matter when applying for another company. So, there is clear difference between SD and ASE. ASE is someone who apply the disciplines of Engineering.
– Jude Niroshan
May 6 '15 at 17:05
If there's a problem or miscommunication then obviously you should talk to someone about it yes - it may be deliberate, in which case you should ask for an explanation, or it may have been an accident. Either way it's a reasonable conversation to have. But ideally you'd have done that straight away.
– Rup
May 6 '15 at 17:11
Check out this question - it's very similar if not the same?
– Elysian Fields♦
May 6 '15 at 17:29
3
3
Is there a reason the title is significant to you? Most companies have their own system for titles, and they don't necessarily translate to other companies. Your job description (official and what you actually do) are what your next employer will want to look at.
– Wesley Long
May 6 '15 at 17:02
Is there a reason the title is significant to you? Most companies have their own system for titles, and they don't necessarily translate to other companies. Your job description (official and what you actually do) are what your next employer will want to look at.
– Wesley Long
May 6 '15 at 17:02
Did you say on your resume or in your interview that you had completed your degree?
– Zibbobz
May 6 '15 at 17:03
Did you say on your resume or in your interview that you had completed your degree?
– Zibbobz
May 6 '15 at 17:03
Designation matter when applying for another company. So, there is clear difference between SD and ASE. ASE is someone who apply the disciplines of Engineering.
– Jude Niroshan
May 6 '15 at 17:05
Designation matter when applying for another company. So, there is clear difference between SD and ASE. ASE is someone who apply the disciplines of Engineering.
– Jude Niroshan
May 6 '15 at 17:05
If there's a problem or miscommunication then obviously you should talk to someone about it yes - it may be deliberate, in which case you should ask for an explanation, or it may have been an accident. Either way it's a reasonable conversation to have. But ideally you'd have done that straight away.
– Rup
May 6 '15 at 17:11
If there's a problem or miscommunication then obviously you should talk to someone about it yes - it may be deliberate, in which case you should ask for an explanation, or it may have been an accident. Either way it's a reasonable conversation to have. But ideally you'd have done that straight away.
– Rup
May 6 '15 at 17:11
Check out this question - it's very similar if not the same?
– Elysian Fields♦
May 6 '15 at 17:29
Check out this question - it's very similar if not the same?
– Elysian Fields♦
May 6 '15 at 17:29
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This isn't too uncommon - they may feel that you don't completely fill out all the requirements for an Associate Software Engineer (whatever that is), but they still want to hire you and hopefully you can grow into the role.
You should feel free to talk to the HR manager or contact regarding the confirmation letter - avoid being confrontational, and ask the question along the lines of how the Developer and Engineer roles differ, and ask about the potential for advancement. It shows you're keen to improve yourself.
As for designation being important when moving on - it's a bit early to be thinking about moving on when you've only just received confirmation of your new position. Also, it probably doesn't matter as much as you think - except for team or project leads over developers - what matters more are the responsibilities and achievements in a role. A software engineer at company X may be labelled a programmer at company Y, but have the same actual responsibilities.
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
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stay in the same position even if there is no positive feedback after talk with HR ? or should I step-out from the company?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 3:59
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I'd stay if it's the only offer you currently have - hold it for at least 12 months, and move on - at least then you have 12 months experience
– HorusKol
May 7 '15 at 4:09
Exactly. Now i'm almost 11 months. Before I join this current workplace, I worked in another company for 10 months. So, If i talk with HR, asking for change my designation to ASE, will it be a reasonable request ?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 4:17
We can't tell you if it's reasonable you should change straight away: we'd need to know exactly what their definitions of the roles are, and more about whether you meet them - we can't judge. But you can certainly ask them if that's the job you applied for, and if they say no find out how you earn the promotion.
– Rup
May 7 '15 at 8:47
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This isn't too uncommon - they may feel that you don't completely fill out all the requirements for an Associate Software Engineer (whatever that is), but they still want to hire you and hopefully you can grow into the role.
You should feel free to talk to the HR manager or contact regarding the confirmation letter - avoid being confrontational, and ask the question along the lines of how the Developer and Engineer roles differ, and ask about the potential for advancement. It shows you're keen to improve yourself.
As for designation being important when moving on - it's a bit early to be thinking about moving on when you've only just received confirmation of your new position. Also, it probably doesn't matter as much as you think - except for team or project leads over developers - what matters more are the responsibilities and achievements in a role. A software engineer at company X may be labelled a programmer at company Y, but have the same actual responsibilities.
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
16.3k63267
stay in the same position even if there is no positive feedback after talk with HR ? or should I step-out from the company?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 3:59
2
I'd stay if it's the only offer you currently have - hold it for at least 12 months, and move on - at least then you have 12 months experience
– HorusKol
May 7 '15 at 4:09
Exactly. Now i'm almost 11 months. Before I join this current workplace, I worked in another company for 10 months. So, If i talk with HR, asking for change my designation to ASE, will it be a reasonable request ?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 4:17
We can't tell you if it's reasonable you should change straight away: we'd need to know exactly what their definitions of the roles are, and more about whether you meet them - we can't judge. But you can certainly ask them if that's the job you applied for, and if they say no find out how you earn the promotion.
– Rup
May 7 '15 at 8:47
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
This isn't too uncommon - they may feel that you don't completely fill out all the requirements for an Associate Software Engineer (whatever that is), but they still want to hire you and hopefully you can grow into the role.
You should feel free to talk to the HR manager or contact regarding the confirmation letter - avoid being confrontational, and ask the question along the lines of how the Developer and Engineer roles differ, and ask about the potential for advancement. It shows you're keen to improve yourself.
As for designation being important when moving on - it's a bit early to be thinking about moving on when you've only just received confirmation of your new position. Also, it probably doesn't matter as much as you think - except for team or project leads over developers - what matters more are the responsibilities and achievements in a role. A software engineer at company X may be labelled a programmer at company Y, but have the same actual responsibilities.
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
16.3k63267
stay in the same position even if there is no positive feedback after talk with HR ? or should I step-out from the company?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 3:59
2
I'd stay if it's the only offer you currently have - hold it for at least 12 months, and move on - at least then you have 12 months experience
– HorusKol
May 7 '15 at 4:09
Exactly. Now i'm almost 11 months. Before I join this current workplace, I worked in another company for 10 months. So, If i talk with HR, asking for change my designation to ASE, will it be a reasonable request ?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 4:17
We can't tell you if it's reasonable you should change straight away: we'd need to know exactly what their definitions of the roles are, and more about whether you meet them - we can't judge. But you can certainly ask them if that's the job you applied for, and if they say no find out how you earn the promotion.
– Rup
May 7 '15 at 8:47
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
This isn't too uncommon - they may feel that you don't completely fill out all the requirements for an Associate Software Engineer (whatever that is), but they still want to hire you and hopefully you can grow into the role.
You should feel free to talk to the HR manager or contact regarding the confirmation letter - avoid being confrontational, and ask the question along the lines of how the Developer and Engineer roles differ, and ask about the potential for advancement. It shows you're keen to improve yourself.
As for designation being important when moving on - it's a bit early to be thinking about moving on when you've only just received confirmation of your new position. Also, it probably doesn't matter as much as you think - except for team or project leads over developers - what matters more are the responsibilities and achievements in a role. A software engineer at company X may be labelled a programmer at company Y, but have the same actual responsibilities.
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
16.3k63267
This isn't too uncommon - they may feel that you don't completely fill out all the requirements for an Associate Software Engineer (whatever that is), but they still want to hire you and hopefully you can grow into the role.
You should feel free to talk to the HR manager or contact regarding the confirmation letter - avoid being confrontational, and ask the question along the lines of how the Developer and Engineer roles differ, and ask about the potential for advancement. It shows you're keen to improve yourself.
As for designation being important when moving on - it's a bit early to be thinking about moving on when you've only just received confirmation of your new position. Also, it probably doesn't matter as much as you think - except for team or project leads over developers - what matters more are the responsibilities and achievements in a role. A software engineer at company X may be labelled a programmer at company Y, but have the same actual responsibilities.
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
16.3k63267
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
16.3k63267
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
16.3k63267
answered May 7 '15 at 2:31
HorusKol
16.3k63267
16.3k63267
stay in the same position even if there is no positive feedback after talk with HR ? or should I step-out from the company?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 3:59
2
I'd stay if it's the only offer you currently have - hold it for at least 12 months, and move on - at least then you have 12 months experience
– HorusKol
May 7 '15 at 4:09
Exactly. Now i'm almost 11 months. Before I join this current workplace, I worked in another company for 10 months. So, If i talk with HR, asking for change my designation to ASE, will it be a reasonable request ?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 4:17
We can't tell you if it's reasonable you should change straight away: we'd need to know exactly what their definitions of the roles are, and more about whether you meet them - we can't judge. But you can certainly ask them if that's the job you applied for, and if they say no find out how you earn the promotion.
– Rup
May 7 '15 at 8:47
suggest improvements |Â
stay in the same position even if there is no positive feedback after talk with HR ? or should I step-out from the company?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 3:59
2
I'd stay if it's the only offer you currently have - hold it for at least 12 months, and move on - at least then you have 12 months experience
– HorusKol
May 7 '15 at 4:09
Exactly. Now i'm almost 11 months. Before I join this current workplace, I worked in another company for 10 months. So, If i talk with HR, asking for change my designation to ASE, will it be a reasonable request ?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 4:17
We can't tell you if it's reasonable you should change straight away: we'd need to know exactly what their definitions of the roles are, and more about whether you meet them - we can't judge. But you can certainly ask them if that's the job you applied for, and if they say no find out how you earn the promotion.
– Rup
May 7 '15 at 8:47
stay in the same position even if there is no positive feedback after talk with HR ? or should I step-out from the company?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 3:59
stay in the same position even if there is no positive feedback after talk with HR ? or should I step-out from the company?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 3:59
2
2
I'd stay if it's the only offer you currently have - hold it for at least 12 months, and move on - at least then you have 12 months experience
– HorusKol
May 7 '15 at 4:09
I'd stay if it's the only offer you currently have - hold it for at least 12 months, and move on - at least then you have 12 months experience
– HorusKol
May 7 '15 at 4:09
Exactly. Now i'm almost 11 months. Before I join this current workplace, I worked in another company for 10 months. So, If i talk with HR, asking for change my designation to ASE, will it be a reasonable request ?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 4:17
Exactly. Now i'm almost 11 months. Before I join this current workplace, I worked in another company for 10 months. So, If i talk with HR, asking for change my designation to ASE, will it be a reasonable request ?
– Jude Niroshan
May 7 '15 at 4:17
We can't tell you if it's reasonable you should change straight away: we'd need to know exactly what their definitions of the roles are, and more about whether you meet them - we can't judge. But you can certainly ask them if that's the job you applied for, and if they say no find out how you earn the promotion.
– Rup
May 7 '15 at 8:47
We can't tell you if it's reasonable you should change straight away: we'd need to know exactly what their definitions of the roles are, and more about whether you meet them - we can't judge. But you can certainly ask them if that's the job you applied for, and if they say no find out how you earn the promotion.
– Rup
May 7 '15 at 8:47
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Is there a reason the title is significant to you? Most companies have their own system for titles, and they don't necessarily translate to other companies. Your job description (official and what you actually do) are what your next employer will want to look at.
– Wesley Long
May 6 '15 at 17:02
Did you say on your resume or in your interview that you had completed your degree?
– Zibbobz
May 6 '15 at 17:03
Designation matter when applying for another company. So, there is clear difference between SD and ASE. ASE is someone who apply the disciplines of Engineering.
– Jude Niroshan
May 6 '15 at 17:05
If there's a problem or miscommunication then obviously you should talk to someone about it yes - it may be deliberate, in which case you should ask for an explanation, or it may have been an accident. Either way it's a reasonable conversation to have. But ideally you'd have done that straight away.
– Rup
May 6 '15 at 17:11
Check out this question - it's very similar if not the same?
– Elysian Fields♦
May 6 '15 at 17:29