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I received an offer for a "Senior Associate Software Engineer" role. What does 'associate' mean here?
Some web pages (such as this question on programmers.se.com) suggest that it means 'junior' or 'entry level'. Does it mean that I will be a senior among the juniors? :)
FWIW, I don't really care about the title, as long as the opportunity is interesting. I'm just curious.
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I received an offer for a "Senior Associate Software Engineer" role. What does 'associate' mean here?
Some web pages (such as this question on programmers.se.com) suggest that it means 'junior' or 'entry level'. Does it mean that I will be a senior among the juniors? :)
FWIW, I don't really care about the title, as long as the opportunity is interesting. I'm just curious.
software-industry job-description title
edited Aug 18 '17 at 1:30
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closed as off-topic by gnat, keshlam, thursdaysgeek, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦ Feb 3 '16 at 21:38
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My guess. It is meaningless. Or only has meaning, in that particular company.
– Zoredache
Feb 3 '16 at 20:19
It might refer to the type of software engineering that you'd be doing. Perhaps the primary engineers work on the software that the company sells, and associate engineers work on internal software.
– David Yaw
Feb 3 '16 at 20:32
@DavidYaw: that's true! How did you get it?
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:35
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I think I have yo agree that this is too company-specific for us to answer. Ask HR what the job titles are at that employer, what their expectations are for a Senior Associate, what the next band/title is and how many years it typically takes to earn that promotion. The answers may be on the company's job-openings website these days.
– keshlam
Feb 3 '16 at 20:41
@keshlam: of course I'm going to ask my company. I was just wondering whether the 'associate' term had a common meaning or not. The duties of a "Software Engineer" depend on the company too, but that term has a common meaning (more or less)
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:45
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I received an offer for a "Senior Associate Software Engineer" role. What does 'associate' mean here?
Some web pages (such as this question on programmers.se.com) suggest that it means 'junior' or 'entry level'. Does it mean that I will be a senior among the juniors? :)
FWIW, I don't really care about the title, as long as the opportunity is interesting. I'm just curious.
software-industry job-description title
edited Aug 18 '17 at 1:30
abc123
88321020
asked Feb 3 '16 at 20:01
hey hey
223126
I received an offer for a "Senior Associate Software Engineer" role. What does 'associate' mean here?
Some web pages (such as this question on programmers.se.com) suggest that it means 'junior' or 'entry level'. Does it mean that I will be a senior among the juniors? :)
FWIW, I don't really care about the title, as long as the opportunity is interesting. I'm just curious.
software-industry job-description title
edited Aug 18 '17 at 1:30
abc123
88321020
asked Feb 3 '16 at 20:01
hey hey
223126
edited Aug 18 '17 at 1:30
abc123
88321020
edited Aug 18 '17 at 1:30
abc123
88321020
edited Aug 18 '17 at 1:30
abc123
88321020
88321020
asked Feb 3 '16 at 20:01
hey hey
223126
asked Feb 3 '16 at 20:01
hey hey
223126
asked Feb 3 '16 at 20:01
hey hey
223126
223126
closed as off-topic by gnat, keshlam, thursdaysgeek, The Wandering Dev Manager, Jane S♦ Feb 3 '16 at 21:38
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My guess. It is meaningless. Or only has meaning, in that particular company.
– Zoredache
Feb 3 '16 at 20:19
It might refer to the type of software engineering that you'd be doing. Perhaps the primary engineers work on the software that the company sells, and associate engineers work on internal software.
– David Yaw
Feb 3 '16 at 20:32
@DavidYaw: that's true! How did you get it?
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:35
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I think I have yo agree that this is too company-specific for us to answer. Ask HR what the job titles are at that employer, what their expectations are for a Senior Associate, what the next band/title is and how many years it typically takes to earn that promotion. The answers may be on the company's job-openings website these days.
– keshlam
Feb 3 '16 at 20:41
@keshlam: of course I'm going to ask my company. I was just wondering whether the 'associate' term had a common meaning or not. The duties of a "Software Engineer" depend on the company too, but that term has a common meaning (more or less)
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:45
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My guess. It is meaningless. Or only has meaning, in that particular company.
– Zoredache
Feb 3 '16 at 20:19
It might refer to the type of software engineering that you'd be doing. Perhaps the primary engineers work on the software that the company sells, and associate engineers work on internal software.
– David Yaw
Feb 3 '16 at 20:32
@DavidYaw: that's true! How did you get it?
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:35
1
I think I have yo agree that this is too company-specific for us to answer. Ask HR what the job titles are at that employer, what their expectations are for a Senior Associate, what the next band/title is and how many years it typically takes to earn that promotion. The answers may be on the company's job-openings website these days.
– keshlam
Feb 3 '16 at 20:41
@keshlam: of course I'm going to ask my company. I was just wondering whether the 'associate' term had a common meaning or not. The duties of a "Software Engineer" depend on the company too, but that term has a common meaning (more or less)
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:45
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My guess. It is meaningless. Or only has meaning, in that particular company.
– Zoredache
Feb 3 '16 at 20:19
My guess. It is meaningless. Or only has meaning, in that particular company.
– Zoredache
Feb 3 '16 at 20:19
It might refer to the type of software engineering that you'd be doing. Perhaps the primary engineers work on the software that the company sells, and associate engineers work on internal software.
– David Yaw
Feb 3 '16 at 20:32
It might refer to the type of software engineering that you'd be doing. Perhaps the primary engineers work on the software that the company sells, and associate engineers work on internal software.
– David Yaw
Feb 3 '16 at 20:32
@DavidYaw: that's true! How did you get it?
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:35
@DavidYaw: that's true! How did you get it?
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:35
1
1
I think I have yo agree that this is too company-specific for us to answer. Ask HR what the job titles are at that employer, what their expectations are for a Senior Associate, what the next band/title is and how many years it typically takes to earn that promotion. The answers may be on the company's job-openings website these days.
– keshlam
Feb 3 '16 at 20:41
I think I have yo agree that this is too company-specific for us to answer. Ask HR what the job titles are at that employer, what their expectations are for a Senior Associate, what the next band/title is and how many years it typically takes to earn that promotion. The answers may be on the company's job-openings website these days.
– keshlam
Feb 3 '16 at 20:41
@keshlam: of course I'm going to ask my company. I was just wondering whether the 'associate' term had a common meaning or not. The duties of a "Software Engineer" depend on the company too, but that term has a common meaning (more or less)
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:45
@keshlam: of course I'm going to ask my company. I was just wondering whether the 'associate' term had a common meaning or not. The duties of a "Software Engineer" depend on the company too, but that term has a common meaning (more or less)
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:45
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An associate is lower ranked. Typically used instead of trainee in my experience. An 'Associate Software Engineer' looks better than 'Trainee Software Engineer'.
It basically means that you're lower ranked than the person who does not have it in their title.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
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Yep, it does sound a bit silly, but I would think the definition for 'associate' still holds as lower ranked than without it. I worked for a company where most everyone was a 'Senior Engineer' and 'Associate Senior Engineer' were the trainee's from the local tech college. There was no title of just 'Engineer' at all.
– Kilisi
Feb 3 '16 at 21:05
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I've seen "associate" attached to entry-level employees but also to team leaders who have just recently been promoted to be such. It appears to be mostly about sounding more prestigious than "junior". I guess it feels OK if you are labelled junior in the beginning of your career but less so when you have already worked hard for years to earn a position. Your employer might wish to highlight you are now to that particular career level. Seems like an oxymoron when used in combination with "senior", though.
– JohnSomeone
Feb 3 '16 at 22:22
That depends on country but the UK 'associate' is used for roles not requiring a Degree eg these with BTEC / HNC / ONC
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:02
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An associate is typically someone who does not have a significant time on the job or in the profession. In technical fields this title is usually 3-7 years to progress from junior though senior associate and into a base level engineer. Though that is not a hard and fast rule just how long it takes most people, I have seen, to be promoted.
A senior associate is someone who may be relatively new to the company and or field, but that has shown the ability to successfully complete their assigned work. Typically they would have stronger skills than an entry level associate but still have not shown the abilities that would merit a promotion to full software engineer. This does not mean that you do not have the skills just that they have not been demonstrated, but that you have been recognized as being at a higher level than a base associate. It also indicates a high level of expectations. A senior associate should not need much guidance in the completion of most tasks.
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Associate is used in the legal field also in nearly the same context. Typically limited to describe a position or employee who isnt vested or "matured" in the company.
– Ramhound
Aug 20 '17 at 18:24
Really depends on country in the UK a new grad may well be called an engineer from the start getting your CENG takes a lot longer
– Neuromancer
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An associate is lower ranked. Typically used instead of trainee in my experience. An 'Associate Software Engineer' looks better than 'Trainee Software Engineer'.
It basically means that you're lower ranked than the person who does not have it in their title.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
Kilisi
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Yep, it does sound a bit silly, but I would think the definition for 'associate' still holds as lower ranked than without it. I worked for a company where most everyone was a 'Senior Engineer' and 'Associate Senior Engineer' were the trainee's from the local tech college. There was no title of just 'Engineer' at all.
– Kilisi
Feb 3 '16 at 21:05
1
I've seen "associate" attached to entry-level employees but also to team leaders who have just recently been promoted to be such. It appears to be mostly about sounding more prestigious than "junior". I guess it feels OK if you are labelled junior in the beginning of your career but less so when you have already worked hard for years to earn a position. Your employer might wish to highlight you are now to that particular career level. Seems like an oxymoron when used in combination with "senior", though.
– JohnSomeone
Feb 3 '16 at 22:22
That depends on country but the UK 'associate' is used for roles not requiring a Degree eg these with BTEC / HNC / ONC
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:02
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
7
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An associate is lower ranked. Typically used instead of trainee in my experience. An 'Associate Software Engineer' looks better than 'Trainee Software Engineer'.
It basically means that you're lower ranked than the person who does not have it in their title.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
Kilisi
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Yep, it does sound a bit silly, but I would think the definition for 'associate' still holds as lower ranked than without it. I worked for a company where most everyone was a 'Senior Engineer' and 'Associate Senior Engineer' were the trainee's from the local tech college. There was no title of just 'Engineer' at all.
– Kilisi
Feb 3 '16 at 21:05
1
I've seen "associate" attached to entry-level employees but also to team leaders who have just recently been promoted to be such. It appears to be mostly about sounding more prestigious than "junior". I guess it feels OK if you are labelled junior in the beginning of your career but less so when you have already worked hard for years to earn a position. Your employer might wish to highlight you are now to that particular career level. Seems like an oxymoron when used in combination with "senior", though.
– JohnSomeone
Feb 3 '16 at 22:22
That depends on country but the UK 'associate' is used for roles not requiring a Degree eg these with BTEC / HNC / ONC
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:02
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
up vote
7
down vote
accepted
An associate is lower ranked. Typically used instead of trainee in my experience. An 'Associate Software Engineer' looks better than 'Trainee Software Engineer'.
It basically means that you're lower ranked than the person who does not have it in their title.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
An associate is lower ranked. Typically used instead of trainee in my experience. An 'Associate Software Engineer' looks better than 'Trainee Software Engineer'.
It basically means that you're lower ranked than the person who does not have it in their title.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
answered Feb 3 '16 at 20:37
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
94.6k50216376
1
Yep, it does sound a bit silly, but I would think the definition for 'associate' still holds as lower ranked than without it. I worked for a company where most everyone was a 'Senior Engineer' and 'Associate Senior Engineer' were the trainee's from the local tech college. There was no title of just 'Engineer' at all.
– Kilisi
Feb 3 '16 at 21:05
1
I've seen "associate" attached to entry-level employees but also to team leaders who have just recently been promoted to be such. It appears to be mostly about sounding more prestigious than "junior". I guess it feels OK if you are labelled junior in the beginning of your career but less so when you have already worked hard for years to earn a position. Your employer might wish to highlight you are now to that particular career level. Seems like an oxymoron when used in combination with "senior", though.
– JohnSomeone
Feb 3 '16 at 22:22
That depends on country but the UK 'associate' is used for roles not requiring a Degree eg these with BTEC / HNC / ONC
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:02
suggest improvements |Â
1
Yep, it does sound a bit silly, but I would think the definition for 'associate' still holds as lower ranked than without it. I worked for a company where most everyone was a 'Senior Engineer' and 'Associate Senior Engineer' were the trainee's from the local tech college. There was no title of just 'Engineer' at all.
– Kilisi
Feb 3 '16 at 21:05
1
I've seen "associate" attached to entry-level employees but also to team leaders who have just recently been promoted to be such. It appears to be mostly about sounding more prestigious than "junior". I guess it feels OK if you are labelled junior in the beginning of your career but less so when you have already worked hard for years to earn a position. Your employer might wish to highlight you are now to that particular career level. Seems like an oxymoron when used in combination with "senior", though.
– JohnSomeone
Feb 3 '16 at 22:22
That depends on country but the UK 'associate' is used for roles not requiring a Degree eg these with BTEC / HNC / ONC
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:02
1
1
Yep, it does sound a bit silly, but I would think the definition for 'associate' still holds as lower ranked than without it. I worked for a company where most everyone was a 'Senior Engineer' and 'Associate Senior Engineer' were the trainee's from the local tech college. There was no title of just 'Engineer' at all.
– Kilisi
Feb 3 '16 at 21:05
Yep, it does sound a bit silly, but I would think the definition for 'associate' still holds as lower ranked than without it. I worked for a company where most everyone was a 'Senior Engineer' and 'Associate Senior Engineer' were the trainee's from the local tech college. There was no title of just 'Engineer' at all.
– Kilisi
Feb 3 '16 at 21:05
1
1
I've seen "associate" attached to entry-level employees but also to team leaders who have just recently been promoted to be such. It appears to be mostly about sounding more prestigious than "junior". I guess it feels OK if you are labelled junior in the beginning of your career but less so when you have already worked hard for years to earn a position. Your employer might wish to highlight you are now to that particular career level. Seems like an oxymoron when used in combination with "senior", though.
– JohnSomeone
Feb 3 '16 at 22:22
I've seen "associate" attached to entry-level employees but also to team leaders who have just recently been promoted to be such. It appears to be mostly about sounding more prestigious than "junior". I guess it feels OK if you are labelled junior in the beginning of your career but less so when you have already worked hard for years to earn a position. Your employer might wish to highlight you are now to that particular career level. Seems like an oxymoron when used in combination with "senior", though.
– JohnSomeone
Feb 3 '16 at 22:22
That depends on country but the UK 'associate' is used for roles not requiring a Degree eg these with BTEC / HNC / ONC
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:02
That depends on country but the UK 'associate' is used for roles not requiring a Degree eg these with BTEC / HNC / ONC
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:02
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An associate is typically someone who does not have a significant time on the job or in the profession. In technical fields this title is usually 3-7 years to progress from junior though senior associate and into a base level engineer. Though that is not a hard and fast rule just how long it takes most people, I have seen, to be promoted.
A senior associate is someone who may be relatively new to the company and or field, but that has shown the ability to successfully complete their assigned work. Typically they would have stronger skills than an entry level associate but still have not shown the abilities that would merit a promotion to full software engineer. This does not mean that you do not have the skills just that they have not been demonstrated, but that you have been recognized as being at a higher level than a base associate. It also indicates a high level of expectations. A senior associate should not need much guidance in the completion of most tasks.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 21:30
IDrinkandIKnowThings
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Associate is used in the legal field also in nearly the same context. Typically limited to describe a position or employee who isnt vested or "matured" in the company.
– Ramhound
Aug 20 '17 at 18:24
Really depends on country in the UK a new grad may well be called an engineer from the start getting your CENG takes a lot longer
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:04
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
down vote
An associate is typically someone who does not have a significant time on the job or in the profession. In technical fields this title is usually 3-7 years to progress from junior though senior associate and into a base level engineer. Though that is not a hard and fast rule just how long it takes most people, I have seen, to be promoted.
A senior associate is someone who may be relatively new to the company and or field, but that has shown the ability to successfully complete their assigned work. Typically they would have stronger skills than an entry level associate but still have not shown the abilities that would merit a promotion to full software engineer. This does not mean that you do not have the skills just that they have not been demonstrated, but that you have been recognized as being at a higher level than a base associate. It also indicates a high level of expectations. A senior associate should not need much guidance in the completion of most tasks.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 21:30
IDrinkandIKnowThings
43.8k1397187
1
Associate is used in the legal field also in nearly the same context. Typically limited to describe a position or employee who isnt vested or "matured" in the company.
– Ramhound
Aug 20 '17 at 18:24
Really depends on country in the UK a new grad may well be called an engineer from the start getting your CENG takes a lot longer
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:04
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
An associate is typically someone who does not have a significant time on the job or in the profession. In technical fields this title is usually 3-7 years to progress from junior though senior associate and into a base level engineer. Though that is not a hard and fast rule just how long it takes most people, I have seen, to be promoted.
A senior associate is someone who may be relatively new to the company and or field, but that has shown the ability to successfully complete their assigned work. Typically they would have stronger skills than an entry level associate but still have not shown the abilities that would merit a promotion to full software engineer. This does not mean that you do not have the skills just that they have not been demonstrated, but that you have been recognized as being at a higher level than a base associate. It also indicates a high level of expectations. A senior associate should not need much guidance in the completion of most tasks.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 21:30
IDrinkandIKnowThings
43.8k1397187
An associate is typically someone who does not have a significant time on the job or in the profession. In technical fields this title is usually 3-7 years to progress from junior though senior associate and into a base level engineer. Though that is not a hard and fast rule just how long it takes most people, I have seen, to be promoted.
A senior associate is someone who may be relatively new to the company and or field, but that has shown the ability to successfully complete their assigned work. Typically they would have stronger skills than an entry level associate but still have not shown the abilities that would merit a promotion to full software engineer. This does not mean that you do not have the skills just that they have not been demonstrated, but that you have been recognized as being at a higher level than a base associate. It also indicates a high level of expectations. A senior associate should not need much guidance in the completion of most tasks.
answered Feb 3 '16 at 21:30
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answered Feb 3 '16 at 21:30
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Associate is used in the legal field also in nearly the same context. Typically limited to describe a position or employee who isnt vested or "matured" in the company.
– Ramhound
Aug 20 '17 at 18:24
Really depends on country in the UK a new grad may well be called an engineer from the start getting your CENG takes a lot longer
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:04
suggest improvements |Â
1
Associate is used in the legal field also in nearly the same context. Typically limited to describe a position or employee who isnt vested or "matured" in the company.
– Ramhound
Aug 20 '17 at 18:24
Really depends on country in the UK a new grad may well be called an engineer from the start getting your CENG takes a lot longer
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:04
1
1
Associate is used in the legal field also in nearly the same context. Typically limited to describe a position or employee who isnt vested or "matured" in the company.
– Ramhound
Aug 20 '17 at 18:24
Associate is used in the legal field also in nearly the same context. Typically limited to describe a position or employee who isnt vested or "matured" in the company.
– Ramhound
Aug 20 '17 at 18:24
Really depends on country in the UK a new grad may well be called an engineer from the start getting your CENG takes a lot longer
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:04
Really depends on country in the UK a new grad may well be called an engineer from the start getting your CENG takes a lot longer
– Neuromancer
Aug 5 at 17:04
suggest improvements |Â
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My guess. It is meaningless. Or only has meaning, in that particular company.
– Zoredache
Feb 3 '16 at 20:19
It might refer to the type of software engineering that you'd be doing. Perhaps the primary engineers work on the software that the company sells, and associate engineers work on internal software.
– David Yaw
Feb 3 '16 at 20:32
@DavidYaw: that's true! How did you get it?
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:35
1
I think I have yo agree that this is too company-specific for us to answer. Ask HR what the job titles are at that employer, what their expectations are for a Senior Associate, what the next band/title is and how many years it typically takes to earn that promotion. The answers may be on the company's job-openings website these days.
– keshlam
Feb 3 '16 at 20:41
@keshlam: of course I'm going to ask my company. I was just wondering whether the 'associate' term had a common meaning or not. The duties of a "Software Engineer" depend on the company too, but that term has a common meaning (more or less)
– hey hey
Feb 3 '16 at 20:45