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I am leaving my current position in start of next month after officially serving two months stated notice period. This may cut to next week if I finish assigned work because I have some personal commitments to finish and all this things are pretty known to my CTO, who has final rights to relieve me. He is aware of my current state of work and we are going pretty close since I posted my resignation. I also have a manager but mostly I am assigned work by my CTO, and at the time I put my resignation the manager was abroad and only communication done between us was that mail.
Enter today, (after round about 35 days since I resigned) my manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it) just because he can not search my replacement and even he comes with a person next day(that he can do), the period will be too short to do a proper knowledge transfer. That I am not willing to do, because of certain reason.
- I can not extend my notice period because I have committed a joining date to my new company.
- I am not going to forget my commitments because they are commitments to my friends and even it will not feasible for me economically. I have poured my 6 months savings into it. Which is also a big good amount I am going to loose.
We are a small company with not more than 20 people involved in development and among other teams since a year mine was the one and a half players team, in some task I was taking active help from my CTO. And we are based in India.
What approach should I take in this situation if I want to be relieved properly without burning the bridge?
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I am leaving my current position in start of next month after officially serving two months stated notice period. This may cut to next week if I finish assigned work because I have some personal commitments to finish and all this things are pretty known to my CTO, who has final rights to relieve me. He is aware of my current state of work and we are going pretty close since I posted my resignation. I also have a manager but mostly I am assigned work by my CTO, and at the time I put my resignation the manager was abroad and only communication done between us was that mail.
Enter today, (after round about 35 days since I resigned) my manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it) just because he can not search my replacement and even he comes with a person next day(that he can do), the period will be too short to do a proper knowledge transfer. That I am not willing to do, because of certain reason.
- I can not extend my notice period because I have committed a joining date to my new company.
- I am not going to forget my commitments because they are commitments to my friends and even it will not feasible for me economically. I have poured my 6 months savings into it. Which is also a big good amount I am going to loose.
We are a small company with not more than 20 people involved in development and among other teams since a year mine was the one and a half players team, in some task I was taking active help from my CTO. And we are based in India.
What approach should I take in this situation if I want to be relieved properly without burning the bridge?
india notice-period knowledge-transfer
edited Feb 11 '13 at 17:01
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
asked Feb 11 '13 at 16:57
Prasham
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This is the whole point of a notice period.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 0:33
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You gave ample notice (I assume at least as much as is required by any contract you may have), and the company failed to plan appropriately. You made plans based upon there being no objections to your 2 months' notice; IMHO, you've upheld your obligations, and the onus is on the company to ensure that they're prepared properly.
– alroc
Feb 12 '13 at 16:13
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I am leaving my current position in start of next month after officially serving two months stated notice period. This may cut to next week if I finish assigned work because I have some personal commitments to finish and all this things are pretty known to my CTO, who has final rights to relieve me. He is aware of my current state of work and we are going pretty close since I posted my resignation. I also have a manager but mostly I am assigned work by my CTO, and at the time I put my resignation the manager was abroad and only communication done between us was that mail.
Enter today, (after round about 35 days since I resigned) my manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it) just because he can not search my replacement and even he comes with a person next day(that he can do), the period will be too short to do a proper knowledge transfer. That I am not willing to do, because of certain reason.
- I can not extend my notice period because I have committed a joining date to my new company.
- I am not going to forget my commitments because they are commitments to my friends and even it will not feasible for me economically. I have poured my 6 months savings into it. Which is also a big good amount I am going to loose.
We are a small company with not more than 20 people involved in development and among other teams since a year mine was the one and a half players team, in some task I was taking active help from my CTO. And we are based in India.
What approach should I take in this situation if I want to be relieved properly without burning the bridge?
india notice-period knowledge-transfer
edited Feb 11 '13 at 17:01
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
asked Feb 11 '13 at 16:57
Prasham
1258
I am leaving my current position in start of next month after officially serving two months stated notice period. This may cut to next week if I finish assigned work because I have some personal commitments to finish and all this things are pretty known to my CTO, who has final rights to relieve me. He is aware of my current state of work and we are going pretty close since I posted my resignation. I also have a manager but mostly I am assigned work by my CTO, and at the time I put my resignation the manager was abroad and only communication done between us was that mail.
Enter today, (after round about 35 days since I resigned) my manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it) just because he can not search my replacement and even he comes with a person next day(that he can do), the period will be too short to do a proper knowledge transfer. That I am not willing to do, because of certain reason.
- I can not extend my notice period because I have committed a joining date to my new company.
- I am not going to forget my commitments because they are commitments to my friends and even it will not feasible for me economically. I have poured my 6 months savings into it. Which is also a big good amount I am going to loose.
We are a small company with not more than 20 people involved in development and among other teams since a year mine was the one and a half players team, in some task I was taking active help from my CTO. And we are based in India.
What approach should I take in this situation if I want to be relieved properly without burning the bridge?
india notice-period knowledge-transfer
edited Feb 11 '13 at 17:01
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
asked Feb 11 '13 at 16:57
Prasham
1258
edited Feb 11 '13 at 17:01
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
edited Feb 11 '13 at 17:01
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
edited Feb 11 '13 at 17:01
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
2,75792862
asked Feb 11 '13 at 16:57
Prasham
1258
asked Feb 11 '13 at 16:57
Prasham
1258
asked Feb 11 '13 at 16:57
Prasham
1258
1258
6
This is the whole point of a notice period.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 0:33
3
You gave ample notice (I assume at least as much as is required by any contract you may have), and the company failed to plan appropriately. You made plans based upon there being no objections to your 2 months' notice; IMHO, you've upheld your obligations, and the onus is on the company to ensure that they're prepared properly.
– alroc
Feb 12 '13 at 16:13
add a comment |Â
6
This is the whole point of a notice period.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 0:33
3
You gave ample notice (I assume at least as much as is required by any contract you may have), and the company failed to plan appropriately. You made plans based upon there being no objections to your 2 months' notice; IMHO, you've upheld your obligations, and the onus is on the company to ensure that they're prepared properly.
– alroc
Feb 12 '13 at 16:13
6
6
This is the whole point of a notice period.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 0:33
This is the whole point of a notice period.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 0:33
3
3
You gave ample notice (I assume at least as much as is required by any contract you may have), and the company failed to plan appropriately. You made plans based upon there being no objections to your 2 months' notice; IMHO, you've upheld your obligations, and the onus is on the company to ensure that they're prepared properly.
– alroc
Feb 12 '13 at 16:13
You gave ample notice (I assume at least as much as is required by any contract you may have), and the company failed to plan appropriately. You made plans based upon there being no objections to your 2 months' notice; IMHO, you've upheld your obligations, and the onus is on the company to ensure that they're prepared properly.
– alroc
Feb 12 '13 at 16:13
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I'm not sure what the labor laws are in India, but in the United States we are At-Will so we stop working whenever either side chooses to end employment. It is customary to give a two week notice, but it is not even legally required. If you have given your resignation notice and your employer wants you to stay, that is because they didn't want you to leave in the first place. You are not obligated to stay any longer, and I'd imagine you quit for a reason. If you have a new job that you will be starting or some other new responsibility simply explain that to your boss so he/she understands that you cannot keep working for him/her. If your boss still attempts to get you to stay then it sounds like the simple act of quitting your job is probably burning bridges, but you can't always avoid that.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
yes CTO asked me to reconsider my decision without uttering anything about counter offer or so, but I gently refused. And hence we moved on a lot.I quit because of personal and professional reason. IMO he wants me to stay to cover up a failure to find a replacement, no matter whose. :)
– Prasham
Feb 11 '13 at 17:20
1
and in other countries there's a legal requirement for companies to offer notice periods, with even the (minimum) length of them set in law. E.g. here it's 1 month, or 2 if the employee has been employed for more than 5 years, or double the term the employee has by his contract to give.
– jwenting
Feb 12 '13 at 6:58
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The answer is that you should have considered this before committing to your course of action. You are voluntarily resigning, and are obligated to a two month notice period. If you are there everyday during that period, and they never identify the replacement in time for you to train them, you are not required to extend the notice period. You would have met the requirement.
But you want to end the notice period early, or you will lose your deposit for your trip. Unfortunately your only choice seems to be in violation of the requirement or extend the notice period. You may need to ask for a new start date, or try to postpone the trip.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
2
The question is based onmy manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments. Your answer is 100% not applicable here.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 3:23
The OP states that he must "extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it)" I interpret that the trip will be before then o the notice period, and he would really like to not have to return to the old company after his vacation.
– mhoran_psprep
Feb 12 '13 at 4:42
As I am strictly against relieving much personal details here, but anybody just don't want to let two month's salary and some important people go away just like that, esp just because of someone failed to perform his/her duty and want his/her juniors to cover up that mistake...
– Prasham
Feb 12 '13 at 20:50
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2 Answers
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active
oldest
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2 Answers
2
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
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up vote
2
down vote
accepted
I'm not sure what the labor laws are in India, but in the United States we are At-Will so we stop working whenever either side chooses to end employment. It is customary to give a two week notice, but it is not even legally required. If you have given your resignation notice and your employer wants you to stay, that is because they didn't want you to leave in the first place. You are not obligated to stay any longer, and I'd imagine you quit for a reason. If you have a new job that you will be starting or some other new responsibility simply explain that to your boss so he/she understands that you cannot keep working for him/her. If your boss still attempts to get you to stay then it sounds like the simple act of quitting your job is probably burning bridges, but you can't always avoid that.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
yes CTO asked me to reconsider my decision without uttering anything about counter offer or so, but I gently refused. And hence we moved on a lot.I quit because of personal and professional reason. IMO he wants me to stay to cover up a failure to find a replacement, no matter whose. :)
– Prasham
Feb 11 '13 at 17:20
1
and in other countries there's a legal requirement for companies to offer notice periods, with even the (minimum) length of them set in law. E.g. here it's 1 month, or 2 if the employee has been employed for more than 5 years, or double the term the employee has by his contract to give.
– jwenting
Feb 12 '13 at 6:58
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
I'm not sure what the labor laws are in India, but in the United States we are At-Will so we stop working whenever either side chooses to end employment. It is customary to give a two week notice, but it is not even legally required. If you have given your resignation notice and your employer wants you to stay, that is because they didn't want you to leave in the first place. You are not obligated to stay any longer, and I'd imagine you quit for a reason. If you have a new job that you will be starting or some other new responsibility simply explain that to your boss so he/she understands that you cannot keep working for him/her. If your boss still attempts to get you to stay then it sounds like the simple act of quitting your job is probably burning bridges, but you can't always avoid that.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
yes CTO asked me to reconsider my decision without uttering anything about counter offer or so, but I gently refused. And hence we moved on a lot.I quit because of personal and professional reason. IMO he wants me to stay to cover up a failure to find a replacement, no matter whose. :)
– Prasham
Feb 11 '13 at 17:20
1
and in other countries there's a legal requirement for companies to offer notice periods, with even the (minimum) length of them set in law. E.g. here it's 1 month, or 2 if the employee has been employed for more than 5 years, or double the term the employee has by his contract to give.
– jwenting
Feb 12 '13 at 6:58
add a comment |Â
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
up vote
2
down vote
accepted
I'm not sure what the labor laws are in India, but in the United States we are At-Will so we stop working whenever either side chooses to end employment. It is customary to give a two week notice, but it is not even legally required. If you have given your resignation notice and your employer wants you to stay, that is because they didn't want you to leave in the first place. You are not obligated to stay any longer, and I'd imagine you quit for a reason. If you have a new job that you will be starting or some other new responsibility simply explain that to your boss so he/she understands that you cannot keep working for him/her. If your boss still attempts to get you to stay then it sounds like the simple act of quitting your job is probably burning bridges, but you can't always avoid that.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
I'm not sure what the labor laws are in India, but in the United States we are At-Will so we stop working whenever either side chooses to end employment. It is customary to give a two week notice, but it is not even legally required. If you have given your resignation notice and your employer wants you to stay, that is because they didn't want you to leave in the first place. You are not obligated to stay any longer, and I'd imagine you quit for a reason. If you have a new job that you will be starting or some other new responsibility simply explain that to your boss so he/she understands that you cannot keep working for him/her. If your boss still attempts to get you to stay then it sounds like the simple act of quitting your job is probably burning bridges, but you can't always avoid that.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
answered Feb 11 '13 at 17:10
CincinnatiProgrammer
2,75792862
2,75792862
yes CTO asked me to reconsider my decision without uttering anything about counter offer or so, but I gently refused. And hence we moved on a lot.I quit because of personal and professional reason. IMO he wants me to stay to cover up a failure to find a replacement, no matter whose. :)
– Prasham
Feb 11 '13 at 17:20
1
and in other countries there's a legal requirement for companies to offer notice periods, with even the (minimum) length of them set in law. E.g. here it's 1 month, or 2 if the employee has been employed for more than 5 years, or double the term the employee has by his contract to give.
– jwenting
Feb 12 '13 at 6:58
add a comment |Â
yes CTO asked me to reconsider my decision without uttering anything about counter offer or so, but I gently refused. And hence we moved on a lot.I quit because of personal and professional reason. IMO he wants me to stay to cover up a failure to find a replacement, no matter whose. :)
– Prasham
Feb 11 '13 at 17:20
1
and in other countries there's a legal requirement for companies to offer notice periods, with even the (minimum) length of them set in law. E.g. here it's 1 month, or 2 if the employee has been employed for more than 5 years, or double the term the employee has by his contract to give.
– jwenting
Feb 12 '13 at 6:58
yes CTO asked me to reconsider my decision without uttering anything about counter offer or so, but I gently refused. And hence we moved on a lot.I quit because of personal and professional reason. IMO he wants me to stay to cover up a failure to find a replacement, no matter whose. :)
– Prasham
Feb 11 '13 at 17:20
yes CTO asked me to reconsider my decision without uttering anything about counter offer or so, but I gently refused. And hence we moved on a lot.I quit because of personal and professional reason. IMO he wants me to stay to cover up a failure to find a replacement, no matter whose. :)
– Prasham
Feb 11 '13 at 17:20
1
1
and in other countries there's a legal requirement for companies to offer notice periods, with even the (minimum) length of them set in law. E.g. here it's 1 month, or 2 if the employee has been employed for more than 5 years, or double the term the employee has by his contract to give.
– jwenting
Feb 12 '13 at 6:58
and in other countries there's a legal requirement for companies to offer notice periods, with even the (minimum) length of them set in law. E.g. here it's 1 month, or 2 if the employee has been employed for more than 5 years, or double the term the employee has by his contract to give.
– jwenting
Feb 12 '13 at 6:58
add a comment |Â
up vote
-3
down vote
The answer is that you should have considered this before committing to your course of action. You are voluntarily resigning, and are obligated to a two month notice period. If you are there everyday during that period, and they never identify the replacement in time for you to train them, you are not required to extend the notice period. You would have met the requirement.
But you want to end the notice period early, or you will lose your deposit for your trip. Unfortunately your only choice seems to be in violation of the requirement or extend the notice period. You may need to ask for a new start date, or try to postpone the trip.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
2
The question is based onmy manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments. Your answer is 100% not applicable here.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 3:23
The OP states that he must "extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it)" I interpret that the trip will be before then o the notice period, and he would really like to not have to return to the old company after his vacation.
– mhoran_psprep
Feb 12 '13 at 4:42
As I am strictly against relieving much personal details here, but anybody just don't want to let two month's salary and some important people go away just like that, esp just because of someone failed to perform his/her duty and want his/her juniors to cover up that mistake...
– Prasham
Feb 12 '13 at 20:50
add a comment |Â
up vote
-3
down vote
The answer is that you should have considered this before committing to your course of action. You are voluntarily resigning, and are obligated to a two month notice period. If you are there everyday during that period, and they never identify the replacement in time for you to train them, you are not required to extend the notice period. You would have met the requirement.
But you want to end the notice period early, or you will lose your deposit for your trip. Unfortunately your only choice seems to be in violation of the requirement or extend the notice period. You may need to ask for a new start date, or try to postpone the trip.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
2
The question is based onmy manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments. Your answer is 100% not applicable here.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 3:23
The OP states that he must "extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it)" I interpret that the trip will be before then o the notice period, and he would really like to not have to return to the old company after his vacation.
– mhoran_psprep
Feb 12 '13 at 4:42
As I am strictly against relieving much personal details here, but anybody just don't want to let two month's salary and some important people go away just like that, esp just because of someone failed to perform his/her duty and want his/her juniors to cover up that mistake...
– Prasham
Feb 12 '13 at 20:50
add a comment |Â
up vote
-3
down vote
up vote
-3
down vote
The answer is that you should have considered this before committing to your course of action. You are voluntarily resigning, and are obligated to a two month notice period. If you are there everyday during that period, and they never identify the replacement in time for you to train them, you are not required to extend the notice period. You would have met the requirement.
But you want to end the notice period early, or you will lose your deposit for your trip. Unfortunately your only choice seems to be in violation of the requirement or extend the notice period. You may need to ask for a new start date, or try to postpone the trip.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
The answer is that you should have considered this before committing to your course of action. You are voluntarily resigning, and are obligated to a two month notice period. If you are there everyday during that period, and they never identify the replacement in time for you to train them, you are not required to extend the notice period. You would have met the requirement.
But you want to end the notice period early, or you will lose your deposit for your trip. Unfortunately your only choice seems to be in violation of the requirement or extend the notice period. You may need to ask for a new start date, or try to postpone the trip.
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
answered Feb 11 '13 at 23:49
mhoran_psprep
40.3k463144
40.3k463144
2
The question is based onmy manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments. Your answer is 100% not applicable here.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 3:23
The OP states that he must "extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it)" I interpret that the trip will be before then o the notice period, and he would really like to not have to return to the old company after his vacation.
– mhoran_psprep
Feb 12 '13 at 4:42
As I am strictly against relieving much personal details here, but anybody just don't want to let two month's salary and some important people go away just like that, esp just because of someone failed to perform his/her duty and want his/her juniors to cover up that mistake...
– Prasham
Feb 12 '13 at 20:50
add a comment |Â
2
The question is based onmy manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments. Your answer is 100% not applicable here.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 3:23
The OP states that he must "extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it)" I interpret that the trip will be before then o the notice period, and he would really like to not have to return to the old company after his vacation.
– mhoran_psprep
Feb 12 '13 at 4:42
As I am strictly against relieving much personal details here, but anybody just don't want to let two month's salary and some important people go away just like that, esp just because of someone failed to perform his/her duty and want his/her juniors to cover up that mistake...
– Prasham
Feb 12 '13 at 20:50
2
2
The question is based on
my manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments. Your answer is 100% not applicable here.– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 3:23
The question is based on
my manager (who just returned from abroad) asked me to extend the notice period, or forget the commitments. Your answer is 100% not applicable here.– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 3:23
The OP states that he must "extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it)" I interpret that the trip will be before then o the notice period, and he would really like to not have to return to the old company after his vacation.
– mhoran_psprep
Feb 12 '13 at 4:42
The OP states that he must "extend the notice period, or forget the commitments (this includes trips of 10 days and I have already invested some money into it)" I interpret that the trip will be before then o the notice period, and he would really like to not have to return to the old company after his vacation.
– mhoran_psprep
Feb 12 '13 at 4:42
As I am strictly against relieving much personal details here, but anybody just don't want to let two month's salary and some important people go away just like that, esp just because of someone failed to perform his/her duty and want his/her juniors to cover up that mistake...
– Prasham
Feb 12 '13 at 20:50
As I am strictly against relieving much personal details here, but anybody just don't want to let two month's salary and some important people go away just like that, esp just because of someone failed to perform his/her duty and want his/her juniors to cover up that mistake...
– Prasham
Feb 12 '13 at 20:50
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This is the whole point of a notice period.
– Elysian Fields♦
Feb 12 '13 at 0:33
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You gave ample notice (I assume at least as much as is required by any contract you may have), and the company failed to plan appropriately. You made plans based upon there being no objections to your 2 months' notice; IMHO, you've upheld your obligations, and the onus is on the company to ensure that they're prepared properly.
– alroc
Feb 12 '13 at 16:13