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When should one consider unionizing in the US?
In the U.S., the Hostess liquidation has captured the public's attention. While many will miss 'Twinkies', others are trying to make sense of Hostess' need to liquidate.
People who have followed this story know that tensions with the Bakers union ultimately triggered Hostess' liquidation. And that led me to wonder: If you set aside the specific issues involved in the Hostess situation, more generally speaking, when should a worker "risk it all" and form a union to represent the collective interests of a company's workers? Should it be a move of last resort? Or should it be a move of first resort?
There's no question that your view of globalization and economics will color your answer to this question, but I think that many people around the world need some general guidelines when trying to collectively bargain with management.
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When should one consider unionizing in the US?
In the U.S., the Hostess liquidation has captured the public's attention. While many will miss 'Twinkies', others are trying to make sense of Hostess' need to liquidate.
People who have followed this story know that tensions with the Bakers union ultimately triggered Hostess' liquidation. And that led me to wonder: If you set aside the specific issues involved in the Hostess situation, more generally speaking, when should a worker "risk it all" and form a union to represent the collective interests of a company's workers? Should it be a move of last resort? Or should it be a move of first resort?
There's no question that your view of globalization and economics will color your answer to this question, but I think that many people around the world need some general guidelines when trying to collectively bargain with management.
negotiation unions
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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asked Nov 18 '12 at 18:43
Jim G.
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marked as duplicate by Jim G., Elysian Fields♦, mhoran_psprep, IDrinkandIKnowThings, jcmeloni Nov 19 '12 at 3:52
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Just as an aside, here's a first-hand account from a union, Hostess employee that may shed some alternative light on the 'tensions triggering liquidation."
– Jacob G
Nov 18 '12 at 19:09
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I'd say it's more related than an exact duplicate. The other question doesn't have the benefit of the energy that current events have generated, nor does it have the same context. Also, see Can Stack Exchange Capitalize on Hot Trends?
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:04
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I created a meta discussion on this question.
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@JacobG - Heh, here's a great follow-up article to the one you posted that talks about how the CEO tripled his own salary before the bankrupcy.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:51
Simply when you are the one who will be running the union... because the Union bosses are the ones who end up raking it in not the workers.
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Nov 19 '12 at 2:48
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When should one consider unionizing in the US?
In the U.S., the Hostess liquidation has captured the public's attention. While many will miss 'Twinkies', others are trying to make sense of Hostess' need to liquidate.
People who have followed this story know that tensions with the Bakers union ultimately triggered Hostess' liquidation. And that led me to wonder: If you set aside the specific issues involved in the Hostess situation, more generally speaking, when should a worker "risk it all" and form a union to represent the collective interests of a company's workers? Should it be a move of last resort? Or should it be a move of first resort?
There's no question that your view of globalization and economics will color your answer to this question, but I think that many people around the world need some general guidelines when trying to collectively bargain with management.
negotiation unions
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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asked Nov 18 '12 at 18:43
Jim G.
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Possible Duplicate:
When should one consider unionizing in the US?
In the U.S., the Hostess liquidation has captured the public's attention. While many will miss 'Twinkies', others are trying to make sense of Hostess' need to liquidate.
People who have followed this story know that tensions with the Bakers union ultimately triggered Hostess' liquidation. And that led me to wonder: If you set aside the specific issues involved in the Hostess situation, more generally speaking, when should a worker "risk it all" and form a union to represent the collective interests of a company's workers? Should it be a move of last resort? Or should it be a move of first resort?
There's no question that your view of globalization and economics will color your answer to this question, but I think that many people around the world need some general guidelines when trying to collectively bargain with management.
negotiation unions
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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asked Nov 18 '12 at 18:43
Jim G.
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edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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asked Nov 18 '12 at 18:43
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asked Nov 18 '12 at 18:43
Jim G.
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asked Nov 18 '12 at 18:43
Jim G.
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marked as duplicate by Jim G., Elysian Fields♦, mhoran_psprep, IDrinkandIKnowThings, jcmeloni Nov 19 '12 at 3:52
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
marked as duplicate by Jim G., Elysian Fields♦, mhoran_psprep, IDrinkandIKnowThings, jcmeloni Nov 19 '12 at 3:52
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Just as an aside, here's a first-hand account from a union, Hostess employee that may shed some alternative light on the 'tensions triggering liquidation."
– Jacob G
Nov 18 '12 at 19:09
3
I'd say it's more related than an exact duplicate. The other question doesn't have the benefit of the energy that current events have generated, nor does it have the same context. Also, see Can Stack Exchange Capitalize on Hot Trends?
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:04
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I created a meta discussion on this question.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:43
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@JacobG - Heh, here's a great follow-up article to the one you posted that talks about how the CEO tripled his own salary before the bankrupcy.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:51
Simply when you are the one who will be running the union... because the Union bosses are the ones who end up raking it in not the workers.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Nov 19 '12 at 2:48
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Just as an aside, here's a first-hand account from a union, Hostess employee that may shed some alternative light on the 'tensions triggering liquidation."
– Jacob G
Nov 18 '12 at 19:09
3
I'd say it's more related than an exact duplicate. The other question doesn't have the benefit of the energy that current events have generated, nor does it have the same context. Also, see Can Stack Exchange Capitalize on Hot Trends?
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:04
1
I created a meta discussion on this question.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:43
2
@JacobG - Heh, here's a great follow-up article to the one you posted that talks about how the CEO tripled his own salary before the bankrupcy.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:51
Simply when you are the one who will be running the union... because the Union bosses are the ones who end up raking it in not the workers.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Nov 19 '12 at 2:48
2
2
Just as an aside, here's a first-hand account from a union, Hostess employee that may shed some alternative light on the 'tensions triggering liquidation."
– Jacob G
Nov 18 '12 at 19:09
Just as an aside, here's a first-hand account from a union, Hostess employee that may shed some alternative light on the 'tensions triggering liquidation."
– Jacob G
Nov 18 '12 at 19:09
3
3
I'd say it's more related than an exact duplicate. The other question doesn't have the benefit of the energy that current events have generated, nor does it have the same context. Also, see Can Stack Exchange Capitalize on Hot Trends?
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:04
I'd say it's more related than an exact duplicate. The other question doesn't have the benefit of the energy that current events have generated, nor does it have the same context. Also, see Can Stack Exchange Capitalize on Hot Trends?
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:04
1
1
I created a meta discussion on this question.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:43
I created a meta discussion on this question.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:43
2
2
@JacobG - Heh, here's a great follow-up article to the one you posted that talks about how the CEO tripled his own salary before the bankrupcy.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:51
@JacobG - Heh, here's a great follow-up article to the one you posted that talks about how the CEO tripled his own salary before the bankrupcy.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:51
Simply when you are the one who will be running the union... because the Union bosses are the ones who end up raking it in not the workers.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Nov 19 '12 at 2:48
Simply when you are the one who will be running the union... because the Union bosses are the ones who end up raking it in not the workers.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Nov 19 '12 at 2:48
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I'd consider some research first in trying to form a union:
- What are the labor laws of your jurisdiction and are there unions that already exist that may assist in forming a new union?
- What working conditions are the cause of the fight to form a union rather than remain individual workers?
- What are the barriers to entry for replacement workers in this field? If the barrier is sufficiently low, a union may not work as unemployed people may come in to take over the jobs.
I wouldn't think of it as a first resort or last resort but rather consider what interest is there among the workers to form a union as there will be quite a bit of work as well as agreements to be set up.
Just as a matter of disclosure, I'm currently in a union and some of my immediate family have worked in unions so I do have some familiarity with it.
answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
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I'd consider some research first in trying to form a union:
- What are the labor laws of your jurisdiction and are there unions that already exist that may assist in forming a new union?
- What working conditions are the cause of the fight to form a union rather than remain individual workers?
- What are the barriers to entry for replacement workers in this field? If the barrier is sufficiently low, a union may not work as unemployed people may come in to take over the jobs.
I wouldn't think of it as a first resort or last resort but rather consider what interest is there among the workers to form a union as there will be quite a bit of work as well as agreements to be set up.
Just as a matter of disclosure, I'm currently in a union and some of my immediate family have worked in unions so I do have some familiarity with it.
answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
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I'd consider some research first in trying to form a union:
- What are the labor laws of your jurisdiction and are there unions that already exist that may assist in forming a new union?
- What working conditions are the cause of the fight to form a union rather than remain individual workers?
- What are the barriers to entry for replacement workers in this field? If the barrier is sufficiently low, a union may not work as unemployed people may come in to take over the jobs.
I wouldn't think of it as a first resort or last resort but rather consider what interest is there among the workers to form a union as there will be quite a bit of work as well as agreements to be set up.
Just as a matter of disclosure, I'm currently in a union and some of my immediate family have worked in unions so I do have some familiarity with it.
answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
JB King
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I'd consider some research first in trying to form a union:
- What are the labor laws of your jurisdiction and are there unions that already exist that may assist in forming a new union?
- What working conditions are the cause of the fight to form a union rather than remain individual workers?
- What are the barriers to entry for replacement workers in this field? If the barrier is sufficiently low, a union may not work as unemployed people may come in to take over the jobs.
I wouldn't think of it as a first resort or last resort but rather consider what interest is there among the workers to form a union as there will be quite a bit of work as well as agreements to be set up.
Just as a matter of disclosure, I'm currently in a union and some of my immediate family have worked in unions so I do have some familiarity with it.
answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
JB King
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I'd consider some research first in trying to form a union:
- What are the labor laws of your jurisdiction and are there unions that already exist that may assist in forming a new union?
- What working conditions are the cause of the fight to form a union rather than remain individual workers?
- What are the barriers to entry for replacement workers in this field? If the barrier is sufficiently low, a union may not work as unemployed people may come in to take over the jobs.
I wouldn't think of it as a first resort or last resort but rather consider what interest is there among the workers to form a union as there will be quite a bit of work as well as agreements to be set up.
Just as a matter of disclosure, I'm currently in a union and some of my immediate family have worked in unions so I do have some familiarity with it.
answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
JB King
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answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
JB King
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answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
JB King
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answered Nov 18 '12 at 19:01
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Just as an aside, here's a first-hand account from a union, Hostess employee that may shed some alternative light on the 'tensions triggering liquidation."
– Jacob G
Nov 18 '12 at 19:09
3
I'd say it's more related than an exact duplicate. The other question doesn't have the benefit of the energy that current events have generated, nor does it have the same context. Also, see Can Stack Exchange Capitalize on Hot Trends?
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:04
1
I created a meta discussion on this question.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:43
2
@JacobG - Heh, here's a great follow-up article to the one you posted that talks about how the CEO tripled his own salary before the bankrupcy.
– jmort253♦
Nov 18 '12 at 21:51
Simply when you are the one who will be running the union... because the Union bosses are the ones who end up raking it in not the workers.
– IDrinkandIKnowThings
Nov 19 '12 at 2:48