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I've been at my new job for about 2 months now, and feel there was a job description change that was not fully conveyed to me during the interview process. I'm finding that I'm having to be available as a support role weekly, and this may include weekends. I was under the impression such on-call duties would only occur sporadically, for special events. Unfortunately, I did not do my homework well enough before accepting this offer, and turned down many other interviews. Had I known the full nature of this job, I would have very likely passed on it. I'm literally having to sit around and answer emails on a weekend as a developer.
Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay. Thanks.
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I've been at my new job for about 2 months now, and feel there was a job description change that was not fully conveyed to me during the interview process. I'm finding that I'm having to be available as a support role weekly, and this may include weekends. I was under the impression such on-call duties would only occur sporadically, for special events. Unfortunately, I did not do my homework well enough before accepting this offer, and turned down many other interviews. Had I known the full nature of this job, I would have very likely passed on it. I'm literally having to sit around and answer emails on a weekend as a developer.
Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay. Thanks.
new-job
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possible duplicate of Would you include short work experience in your CV?
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Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
Start attending interviews and leave this job as early as possible once you have a good offer.
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I've been at my new job for about 2 months now, and feel there was a job description change that was not fully conveyed to me during the interview process. I'm finding that I'm having to be available as a support role weekly, and this may include weekends. I was under the impression such on-call duties would only occur sporadically, for special events. Unfortunately, I did not do my homework well enough before accepting this offer, and turned down many other interviews. Had I known the full nature of this job, I would have very likely passed on it. I'm literally having to sit around and answer emails on a weekend as a developer.
Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay. Thanks.
new-job
I've been at my new job for about 2 months now, and feel there was a job description change that was not fully conveyed to me during the interview process. I'm finding that I'm having to be available as a support role weekly, and this may include weekends. I was under the impression such on-call duties would only occur sporadically, for special events. Unfortunately, I did not do my homework well enough before accepting this offer, and turned down many other interviews. Had I known the full nature of this job, I would have very likely passed on it. I'm literally having to sit around and answer emails on a weekend as a developer.
Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay. Thanks.
new-job
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closed as unclear what you're asking by Joe Strazzere, Michael Grubey, Elysian Fields♦, Jim G., gnat Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
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closed as unclear what you're asking by Joe Strazzere, Michael Grubey, Elysian Fields♦, Jim G., gnat Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
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What is your question?
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 15 '13 at 11:22
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possible duplicate of Would you include short work experience in your CV?
– gnat
Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
Start attending interviews and leave this job as early as possible once you have a good offer.
– samarasa
Jul 15 '13 at 19:42
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What is your question?
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 15 '13 at 11:22
2
possible duplicate of Would you include short work experience in your CV?
– gnat
Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
Start attending interviews and leave this job as early as possible once you have a good offer.
– samarasa
Jul 15 '13 at 19:42
What is your question?
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 15 '13 at 11:22
What is your question?
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 15 '13 at 11:22
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2
possible duplicate of Would you include short work experience in your CV?
– gnat
Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
possible duplicate of Would you include short work experience in your CV?
– gnat
Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
Start attending interviews and leave this job as early as possible once you have a good offer.
– samarasa
Jul 15 '13 at 19:42
Start attending interviews and leave this job as early as possible once you have a good offer.
– samarasa
Jul 15 '13 at 19:42
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I was going to ask questions in the comment section such as "What country are you working in? Are the weekend hours in addition to the 40 hours a week you spend developing code? Are you compensated for those hours? If the support hours take place during regular business hours are you also expected to code during that same time? On the weekend are you at home or in the office?" but those focused on how you might want to preserve your job.
Therefore I decided to focus on your question
"Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and
would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay"
I would start to apply to other positions. It has only been a few months since you rejected the other interviews so it is possible that similar positions remain open with the other companies. I would not quit until a new job is found.
I would be upfront and list the job on the resume. Skipping it would could cause problems later on. They might want to contact your previous supervisor. Normally they avoid talking to your current supervisor to make sure they don't get you into trouble. It is true that many times a company will only confirm dates of employment and job title, but if they do get in touch with your previous manager he could say that you left to go with company X. And Company X isn't on your resume.
It could also be found if you have to fill out a form for a background investigation. They might want to talk to co-workers at your old job, this makes it even more likely that you will be discovered. Not including it on the background investigation form could get you dropped immediately. You can't say that was a temp position 10 years ago, it was the place you went to the day you filled out the paperwork.
One short duration position is not a red flag at all. It can be a sign that the economy, or sequestration forced you to leave a position you liked, for one that promised a decent paycheck without any unpaid weeks or months. Now that you are on your feet, and can see reality in a calmer environment, you need to find a job you like.
If they ask why you are leaving, tell them that the job was advertised as a developer position, but it is clearly evolving to a help desk position, and that I am not comfortable in that role.
It true that some employers will see the short duration position as a problem, and never call your in for an interview; but some will see the two months or more of unemployment and never call you in for an interview. I have no idea which pool of employers is better to avoid: the minority that you eliminated because of the truth, or the minority you eliminated because of the omission.
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Hanging around every weekend is surely not acceptable. I know of people who have to fullfil a weekend problem shooting/support role every so often (say every 5th weekend). I'd have a chat with your manager to see if you can bring back the weekend work to a more reasonable level, alternatively, if they don't budge you'll probably have to find a new job.
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The OP said: "I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay". You don't really answer their question.
– FrustratedWithFormsDesigner
Jul 15 '13 at 20:53
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There are jobs I've worked at for months that I didn't list on my resume if I didn't think much of the employment situation. Some people might remember that Dilbert had been assigned to engineer an ant farm. His next employer wanted to know what he had been doing for the last six months.
I wouldn't tell a new employer I had just spent the last two months answering support emails on weekends - until they asked me in person why I was leaving my present job. If they sure as hell would revolt, your action would be viewed sympathetically.
1
Just to be clear, the support emails I'm handling weekly is in conjunction with my daily development duties. I'm finding the support rotation is more concerned about response time, and less about actually fixing the problem. How would I explain leaving my last employer two months ago? The honest answer is that I found a supposedly better gig.
– user1922946
Jul 15 '13 at 9:15
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Who the hell is Dilbert?
– Michael Grubey
Jul 15 '13 at 11:54
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dilbert.com
– Meredith Poor
Jul 15 '13 at 12:08
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
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active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
I was going to ask questions in the comment section such as "What country are you working in? Are the weekend hours in addition to the 40 hours a week you spend developing code? Are you compensated for those hours? If the support hours take place during regular business hours are you also expected to code during that same time? On the weekend are you at home or in the office?" but those focused on how you might want to preserve your job.
Therefore I decided to focus on your question
"Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and
would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay"
I would start to apply to other positions. It has only been a few months since you rejected the other interviews so it is possible that similar positions remain open with the other companies. I would not quit until a new job is found.
I would be upfront and list the job on the resume. Skipping it would could cause problems later on. They might want to contact your previous supervisor. Normally they avoid talking to your current supervisor to make sure they don't get you into trouble. It is true that many times a company will only confirm dates of employment and job title, but if they do get in touch with your previous manager he could say that you left to go with company X. And Company X isn't on your resume.
It could also be found if you have to fill out a form for a background investigation. They might want to talk to co-workers at your old job, this makes it even more likely that you will be discovered. Not including it on the background investigation form could get you dropped immediately. You can't say that was a temp position 10 years ago, it was the place you went to the day you filled out the paperwork.
One short duration position is not a red flag at all. It can be a sign that the economy, or sequestration forced you to leave a position you liked, for one that promised a decent paycheck without any unpaid weeks or months. Now that you are on your feet, and can see reality in a calmer environment, you need to find a job you like.
If they ask why you are leaving, tell them that the job was advertised as a developer position, but it is clearly evolving to a help desk position, and that I am not comfortable in that role.
It true that some employers will see the short duration position as a problem, and never call your in for an interview; but some will see the two months or more of unemployment and never call you in for an interview. I have no idea which pool of employers is better to avoid: the minority that you eliminated because of the truth, or the minority you eliminated because of the omission.
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
I was going to ask questions in the comment section such as "What country are you working in? Are the weekend hours in addition to the 40 hours a week you spend developing code? Are you compensated for those hours? If the support hours take place during regular business hours are you also expected to code during that same time? On the weekend are you at home or in the office?" but those focused on how you might want to preserve your job.
Therefore I decided to focus on your question
"Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and
would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay"
I would start to apply to other positions. It has only been a few months since you rejected the other interviews so it is possible that similar positions remain open with the other companies. I would not quit until a new job is found.
I would be upfront and list the job on the resume. Skipping it would could cause problems later on. They might want to contact your previous supervisor. Normally they avoid talking to your current supervisor to make sure they don't get you into trouble. It is true that many times a company will only confirm dates of employment and job title, but if they do get in touch with your previous manager he could say that you left to go with company X. And Company X isn't on your resume.
It could also be found if you have to fill out a form for a background investigation. They might want to talk to co-workers at your old job, this makes it even more likely that you will be discovered. Not including it on the background investigation form could get you dropped immediately. You can't say that was a temp position 10 years ago, it was the place you went to the day you filled out the paperwork.
One short duration position is not a red flag at all. It can be a sign that the economy, or sequestration forced you to leave a position you liked, for one that promised a decent paycheck without any unpaid weeks or months. Now that you are on your feet, and can see reality in a calmer environment, you need to find a job you like.
If they ask why you are leaving, tell them that the job was advertised as a developer position, but it is clearly evolving to a help desk position, and that I am not comfortable in that role.
It true that some employers will see the short duration position as a problem, and never call your in for an interview; but some will see the two months or more of unemployment and never call you in for an interview. I have no idea which pool of employers is better to avoid: the minority that you eliminated because of the truth, or the minority you eliminated because of the omission.
add a comment |Â
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
up vote
3
down vote
accepted
I was going to ask questions in the comment section such as "What country are you working in? Are the weekend hours in addition to the 40 hours a week you spend developing code? Are you compensated for those hours? If the support hours take place during regular business hours are you also expected to code during that same time? On the weekend are you at home or in the office?" but those focused on how you might want to preserve your job.
Therefore I decided to focus on your question
"Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and
would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay"
I would start to apply to other positions. It has only been a few months since you rejected the other interviews so it is possible that similar positions remain open with the other companies. I would not quit until a new job is found.
I would be upfront and list the job on the resume. Skipping it would could cause problems later on. They might want to contact your previous supervisor. Normally they avoid talking to your current supervisor to make sure they don't get you into trouble. It is true that many times a company will only confirm dates of employment and job title, but if they do get in touch with your previous manager he could say that you left to go with company X. And Company X isn't on your resume.
It could also be found if you have to fill out a form for a background investigation. They might want to talk to co-workers at your old job, this makes it even more likely that you will be discovered. Not including it on the background investigation form could get you dropped immediately. You can't say that was a temp position 10 years ago, it was the place you went to the day you filled out the paperwork.
One short duration position is not a red flag at all. It can be a sign that the economy, or sequestration forced you to leave a position you liked, for one that promised a decent paycheck without any unpaid weeks or months. Now that you are on your feet, and can see reality in a calmer environment, you need to find a job you like.
If they ask why you are leaving, tell them that the job was advertised as a developer position, but it is clearly evolving to a help desk position, and that I am not comfortable in that role.
It true that some employers will see the short duration position as a problem, and never call your in for an interview; but some will see the two months or more of unemployment and never call you in for an interview. I have no idea which pool of employers is better to avoid: the minority that you eliminated because of the truth, or the minority you eliminated because of the omission.
I was going to ask questions in the comment section such as "What country are you working in? Are the weekend hours in addition to the 40 hours a week you spend developing code? Are you compensated for those hours? If the support hours take place during regular business hours are you also expected to code during that same time? On the weekend are you at home or in the office?" but those focused on how you might want to preserve your job.
Therefore I decided to focus on your question
"Given the current state of the market, I'm considering moving on, and
would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay"
I would start to apply to other positions. It has only been a few months since you rejected the other interviews so it is possible that similar positions remain open with the other companies. I would not quit until a new job is found.
I would be upfront and list the job on the resume. Skipping it would could cause problems later on. They might want to contact your previous supervisor. Normally they avoid talking to your current supervisor to make sure they don't get you into trouble. It is true that many times a company will only confirm dates of employment and job title, but if they do get in touch with your previous manager he could say that you left to go with company X. And Company X isn't on your resume.
It could also be found if you have to fill out a form for a background investigation. They might want to talk to co-workers at your old job, this makes it even more likely that you will be discovered. Not including it on the background investigation form could get you dropped immediately. You can't say that was a temp position 10 years ago, it was the place you went to the day you filled out the paperwork.
One short duration position is not a red flag at all. It can be a sign that the economy, or sequestration forced you to leave a position you liked, for one that promised a decent paycheck without any unpaid weeks or months. Now that you are on your feet, and can see reality in a calmer environment, you need to find a job you like.
If they ask why you are leaving, tell them that the job was advertised as a developer position, but it is clearly evolving to a help desk position, and that I am not comfortable in that role.
It true that some employers will see the short duration position as a problem, and never call your in for an interview; but some will see the two months or more of unemployment and never call you in for an interview. I have no idea which pool of employers is better to avoid: the minority that you eliminated because of the truth, or the minority you eliminated because of the omission.
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Hanging around every weekend is surely not acceptable. I know of people who have to fullfil a weekend problem shooting/support role every so often (say every 5th weekend). I'd have a chat with your manager to see if you can bring back the weekend work to a more reasonable level, alternatively, if they don't budge you'll probably have to find a new job.
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The OP said: "I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay". You don't really answer their question.
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Jul 15 '13 at 20:53
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Hanging around every weekend is surely not acceptable. I know of people who have to fullfil a weekend problem shooting/support role every so often (say every 5th weekend). I'd have a chat with your manager to see if you can bring back the weekend work to a more reasonable level, alternatively, if they don't budge you'll probably have to find a new job.
1
The OP said: "I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay". You don't really answer their question.
– FrustratedWithFormsDesigner
Jul 15 '13 at 20:53
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Hanging around every weekend is surely not acceptable. I know of people who have to fullfil a weekend problem shooting/support role every so often (say every 5th weekend). I'd have a chat with your manager to see if you can bring back the weekend work to a more reasonable level, alternatively, if they don't budge you'll probably have to find a new job.
Hanging around every weekend is surely not acceptable. I know of people who have to fullfil a weekend problem shooting/support role every so often (say every 5th weekend). I'd have a chat with your manager to see if you can bring back the weekend work to a more reasonable level, alternatively, if they don't budge you'll probably have to find a new job.
answered Jul 15 '13 at 8:29
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The OP said: "I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay". You don't really answer their question.
– FrustratedWithFormsDesigner
Jul 15 '13 at 20:53
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The OP said: "I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay". You don't really answer their question.
– FrustratedWithFormsDesigner
Jul 15 '13 at 20:53
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The OP said: "I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay". You don't really answer their question.
– FrustratedWithFormsDesigner
Jul 15 '13 at 20:53
The OP said: "I'm considering moving on, and would appreciate any advice on how best to portray this short stay". You don't really answer their question.
– FrustratedWithFormsDesigner
Jul 15 '13 at 20:53
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There are jobs I've worked at for months that I didn't list on my resume if I didn't think much of the employment situation. Some people might remember that Dilbert had been assigned to engineer an ant farm. His next employer wanted to know what he had been doing for the last six months.
I wouldn't tell a new employer I had just spent the last two months answering support emails on weekends - until they asked me in person why I was leaving my present job. If they sure as hell would revolt, your action would be viewed sympathetically.
1
Just to be clear, the support emails I'm handling weekly is in conjunction with my daily development duties. I'm finding the support rotation is more concerned about response time, and less about actually fixing the problem. How would I explain leaving my last employer two months ago? The honest answer is that I found a supposedly better gig.
– user1922946
Jul 15 '13 at 9:15
1
Who the hell is Dilbert?
– Michael Grubey
Jul 15 '13 at 11:54
4
dilbert.com
– Meredith Poor
Jul 15 '13 at 12:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
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There are jobs I've worked at for months that I didn't list on my resume if I didn't think much of the employment situation. Some people might remember that Dilbert had been assigned to engineer an ant farm. His next employer wanted to know what he had been doing for the last six months.
I wouldn't tell a new employer I had just spent the last two months answering support emails on weekends - until they asked me in person why I was leaving my present job. If they sure as hell would revolt, your action would be viewed sympathetically.
1
Just to be clear, the support emails I'm handling weekly is in conjunction with my daily development duties. I'm finding the support rotation is more concerned about response time, and less about actually fixing the problem. How would I explain leaving my last employer two months ago? The honest answer is that I found a supposedly better gig.
– user1922946
Jul 15 '13 at 9:15
1
Who the hell is Dilbert?
– Michael Grubey
Jul 15 '13 at 11:54
4
dilbert.com
– Meredith Poor
Jul 15 '13 at 12:08
add a comment |Â
up vote
-2
down vote
up vote
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There are jobs I've worked at for months that I didn't list on my resume if I didn't think much of the employment situation. Some people might remember that Dilbert had been assigned to engineer an ant farm. His next employer wanted to know what he had been doing for the last six months.
I wouldn't tell a new employer I had just spent the last two months answering support emails on weekends - until they asked me in person why I was leaving my present job. If they sure as hell would revolt, your action would be viewed sympathetically.
There are jobs I've worked at for months that I didn't list on my resume if I didn't think much of the employment situation. Some people might remember that Dilbert had been assigned to engineer an ant farm. His next employer wanted to know what he had been doing for the last six months.
I wouldn't tell a new employer I had just spent the last two months answering support emails on weekends - until they asked me in person why I was leaving my present job. If they sure as hell would revolt, your action would be viewed sympathetically.
answered Jul 15 '13 at 9:10
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Just to be clear, the support emails I'm handling weekly is in conjunction with my daily development duties. I'm finding the support rotation is more concerned about response time, and less about actually fixing the problem. How would I explain leaving my last employer two months ago? The honest answer is that I found a supposedly better gig.
– user1922946
Jul 15 '13 at 9:15
1
Who the hell is Dilbert?
– Michael Grubey
Jul 15 '13 at 11:54
4
dilbert.com
– Meredith Poor
Jul 15 '13 at 12:08
add a comment |Â
1
Just to be clear, the support emails I'm handling weekly is in conjunction with my daily development duties. I'm finding the support rotation is more concerned about response time, and less about actually fixing the problem. How would I explain leaving my last employer two months ago? The honest answer is that I found a supposedly better gig.
– user1922946
Jul 15 '13 at 9:15
1
Who the hell is Dilbert?
– Michael Grubey
Jul 15 '13 at 11:54
4
dilbert.com
– Meredith Poor
Jul 15 '13 at 12:08
1
1
Just to be clear, the support emails I'm handling weekly is in conjunction with my daily development duties. I'm finding the support rotation is more concerned about response time, and less about actually fixing the problem. How would I explain leaving my last employer two months ago? The honest answer is that I found a supposedly better gig.
– user1922946
Jul 15 '13 at 9:15
Just to be clear, the support emails I'm handling weekly is in conjunction with my daily development duties. I'm finding the support rotation is more concerned about response time, and less about actually fixing the problem. How would I explain leaving my last employer two months ago? The honest answer is that I found a supposedly better gig.
– user1922946
Jul 15 '13 at 9:15
1
1
Who the hell is Dilbert?
– Michael Grubey
Jul 15 '13 at 11:54
Who the hell is Dilbert?
– Michael Grubey
Jul 15 '13 at 11:54
4
4
dilbert.com
– Meredith Poor
Jul 15 '13 at 12:08
dilbert.com
– Meredith Poor
Jul 15 '13 at 12:08
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What is your question?
– Elysian Fields♦
Jul 15 '13 at 11:22
2
possible duplicate of Would you include short work experience in your CV?
– gnat
Jul 15 '13 at 11:32
Start attending interviews and leave this job as early as possible once you have a good offer.
– samarasa
Jul 15 '13 at 19:42