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I am among the first 3 employees of the company. My Seniors and peers (3 seniors and 2 peers) are good to work with.

A few months back, new people were hired by my company. I was friendly with new recruits and helped them in every possible way I could. It was my expectation that it would help them grow, perform and feel comfortable at the office.

Now these guys treat me like just another guy subordinate to them. They call me by name and tend to crack jokes which normally are not done between a senior and his subordinates. They don't give me respect that I feel I deserve for mentoring them.

This has made office a very uninteresting place for me. Their attitude hurts me. I am a good programmer and I don't want to lose my productivity and good work because of this.

What should be my further behavior at my workplace? I am looking forward to responses.

professionalism work-environment colleagues employer-relations relationships

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asked Oct 28 '13 at 8:51

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  Not sure getting upset at the lack of hierarchy is not best described as "world weary"
  – Neuromancer
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:37
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  So just how are they junior to you? Are you their immediate boss? Are you a manager at all?
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  Oct 28 '13 at 12:14
  

  
  
  
  


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  I think we are seeing a cultural difference here: from the answers I infer that status works differently in India than what we Americans are used to. This is a global site, not an American site, so I think this is a fair question. That said, an edit to answer HLGEM's question would help.
  – Monica Cellio♦
  Oct 28 '13 at 17:01
  

  
  
  
  


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  @HLGEM I am their immediate senior, not boss, but senior in hierarchy.
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  Oct 29 '13 at 8:32
  

  
  
  
  

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I am among the first 3 employees of the company. My Seniors and peers (3 seniors and 2 peers) are good to work with.

A few months back, new people were hired by my company. I was friendly with new recruits and helped them in every possible way I could. It was my expectation that it would help them grow, perform and feel comfortable at the office.

Now these guys treat me like just another guy subordinate to them. They call me by name and tend to crack jokes which normally are not done between a senior and his subordinates. They don't give me respect that I feel I deserve for mentoring them.

This has made office a very uninteresting place for me. Their attitude hurts me. I am a good programmer and I don't want to lose my productivity and good work because of this.

What should be my further behavior at my workplace? I am looking forward to responses.

professionalism work-environment colleagues employer-relations relationships

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edited Oct 29 '13 at 4:43

asked Oct 28 '13 at 8:51

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closed as unclear what you're asking by jcmeloni, Joe Strazzere, Jim G., CincinnatiProgrammer, HLGEM Oct 28 '13 at 15:21

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  Not sure getting upset at the lack of hierarchy is not best described as "world weary"
  – Neuromancer
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:37
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  So just how are they junior to you? Are you their immediate boss? Are you a manager at all?
  – HLGEM
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:14
  

  
  
  
  


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  I think we are seeing a cultural difference here: from the answers I infer that status works differently in India than what we Americans are used to. This is a global site, not an American site, so I think this is a fair question. That said, an edit to answer HLGEM's question would help.
  – Monica Cellio♦
  Oct 28 '13 at 17:01
  

  
  
  
  


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  @HLGEM I am their immediate senior, not boss, but senior in hierarchy.
  – Sachinist
  Oct 29 '13 at 8:32
  

  
  
  
  

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I am among the first 3 employees of the company. My Seniors and peers (3 seniors and 2 peers) are good to work with.

A few months back, new people were hired by my company. I was friendly with new recruits and helped them in every possible way I could. It was my expectation that it would help them grow, perform and feel comfortable at the office.

Now these guys treat me like just another guy subordinate to them. They call me by name and tend to crack jokes which normally are not done between a senior and his subordinates. They don't give me respect that I feel I deserve for mentoring them.

This has made office a very uninteresting place for me. Their attitude hurts me. I am a good programmer and I don't want to lose my productivity and good work because of this.

What should be my further behavior at my workplace? I am looking forward to responses.

professionalism work-environment colleagues employer-relations relationships

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edited Oct 29 '13 at 4:43

asked Oct 28 '13 at 8:51

Sachinist

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I am among the first 3 employees of the company. My Seniors and peers (3 seniors and 2 peers) are good to work with.

A few months back, new people were hired by my company. I was friendly with new recruits and helped them in every possible way I could. It was my expectation that it would help them grow, perform and feel comfortable at the office.

Now these guys treat me like just another guy subordinate to them. They call me by name and tend to crack jokes which normally are not done between a senior and his subordinates. They don't give me respect that I feel I deserve for mentoring them.

This has made office a very uninteresting place for me. Their attitude hurts me. I am a good programmer and I don't want to lose my productivity and good work because of this.

What should be my further behavior at my workplace? I am looking forward to responses.

professionalism work-environment colleagues employer-relations relationships

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edited Oct 29 '13 at 4:43

asked Oct 28 '13 at 8:51

Sachinist

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edited Oct 29 '13 at 4:43

edited Oct 29 '13 at 4:43

edited Oct 29 '13 at 4:43

asked Oct 28 '13 at 8:51

Sachinist

151117

asked Oct 28 '13 at 8:51

Sachinist

151117

asked Oct 28 '13 at 8:51

Sachinist

151117

151117

closed as unclear what you're asking by jcmeloni, Joe Strazzere, Jim G., CincinnatiProgrammer, HLGEM Oct 28 '13 at 15:21

Please clarify your specific problem or add additional details to highlight exactly what you need. As it's currently written, it’s hard to tell exactly what you're asking. See the How to Ask page for help clarifying this question. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.

closed as unclear what you're asking by jcmeloni, Joe Strazzere, Jim G., CincinnatiProgrammer, HLGEM Oct 28 '13 at 15:21

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  Not sure getting upset at the lack of hierarchy is not best described as "world weary"
  – Neuromancer
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:37
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So just how are they junior to you? Are you their immediate boss? Are you a manager at all?
  – HLGEM
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:14
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I think we are seeing a cultural difference here: from the answers I infer that status works differently in India than what we Americans are used to. This is a global site, not an American site, so I think this is a fair question. That said, an edit to answer HLGEM's question would help.
  – Monica Cellio♦
  Oct 28 '13 at 17:01
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @HLGEM I am their immediate senior, not boss, but senior in hierarchy.
  – Sachinist
  Oct 29 '13 at 8:32
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

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  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Not sure getting upset at the lack of hierarchy is not best described as "world weary"
  – Neuromancer
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:37
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  So just how are they junior to you? Are you their immediate boss? Are you a manager at all?
  – HLGEM
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:14
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  I think we are seeing a cultural difference here: from the answers I infer that status works differently in India than what we Americans are used to. This is a global site, not an American site, so I think this is a fair question. That said, an edit to answer HLGEM's question would help.
  – Monica Cellio♦
  Oct 28 '13 at 17:01
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  @HLGEM I am their immediate senior, not boss, but senior in hierarchy.
  – Sachinist
  Oct 29 '13 at 8:32
  

  
  
  
  

1

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Not sure getting upset at the lack of hierarchy is not best described as "world weary"
– Neuromancer
Oct 28 '13 at 10:37

Not sure getting upset at the lack of hierarchy is not best described as "world weary"
– Neuromancer
Oct 28 '13 at 10:37

So just how are they junior to you? Are you their immediate boss? Are you a manager at all?
– HLGEM
Oct 28 '13 at 12:14

So just how are they junior to you? Are you their immediate boss? Are you a manager at all?
– HLGEM
Oct 28 '13 at 12:14

I think we are seeing a cultural difference here: from the answers I infer that status works differently in India than what we Americans are used to. This is a global site, not an American site, so I think this is a fair question. That said, an edit to answer HLGEM's question would help.
– Monica Cellio♦
Oct 28 '13 at 17:01

I think we are seeing a cultural difference here: from the answers I infer that status works differently in India than what we Americans are used to. This is a global site, not an American site, so I think this is a fair question. That said, an edit to answer HLGEM's question would help.
– Monica Cellio♦
Oct 28 '13 at 17:01

@HLGEM I am their immediate senior, not boss, but senior in hierarchy.
– Sachinist
Oct 29 '13 at 8:32

@HLGEM I am their immediate senior, not boss, but senior in hierarchy.
– Sachinist
Oct 29 '13 at 8:32

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This is a very common issue in India. Since Indians fall in between multiactive and reactive culture line. The seniors would expect respect. This is no one's fault. The tradition is as such made everyone in this country to behave with respect. Even though I can't able to see any questions from you, I can suggest you something as below,

1. Be focused on work,


2. The reason of those juniors not addressing you with a respect should not affect the work.


3. Since people work as programmer and the job they are in; makes them to think the company is adapting US culture of addressing co-workers or senior programmers with their first name. Which is being un-pleasant for some people.


4. Get them to a table or just express strongly at once while they call you with your name or anything which makes you offend, that you don't like the way that they use to address you and ask them to address you in way that you would like to be called.


5. Don't get disturbed with their addressing method to you and spoil your productivity. your ultimate goal is to work, perform, grow and get paid.


6. If they still don't listen to you and keep addressing you in way that you don't like. Then obviously you should take this to your decision making authority in your office to warn them severely. Make sure their friendship with you is not getting spoiled at the same time.


7. If there is no effect after all this... Just stop talking to them unless it's official.

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edited Oct 29 '13 at 6:41

answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

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  Thanks for the response. At the moment I am following step 7. :)
  – Sachinist
  Oct 28 '13 at 9:45
  

  
  
  
  

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I have come across the same issue
As far as I see, India has a high PDI:
http://geert-hofstede.com/india.html

Power distance

This dimension deals with the fact that all individuals in societies
are not equal – it expresses the attitude of the culture towards these
inequalities amongst us.

Power distance is defined as the extent to which the less powerful
members of institutions and organisations within a country expect and
accept that power is distributed inequally.

India scores high on this dimension, 77, indicating an appreciation
for hierarchy and a Top – Down Structure in society and Organizations.
If one were to encapsulate the Indian attitude, one could use the
following words and phrases : dependent on the boss or the powerholder
for direction, acceptance of un-equal rights between the
power-priviledged and those who are lesser down in the pecking order,
immediate superiors accessible but one layer above less so,
paternalistic leader, management directs, gives reason / meaning to
ones work life and rewards in exchange for loyalty from employees.
Real Power is centralized even though it may not appear to be and
managers count on the obedience of their team members.Employees expect
to be directed clearly as to their functions and what is expected of
them. Control is familiar, even a psychological security, and
attitude towards managers are formal even if one is on first name
basis. Communication is top down and directive in its style and often
feedback which is negative is never offered up the ladder.

This would mean that as their superior, you have a socially accepted right to offer them feedback, as to what they're doing is not ok.

As far as I know though, in India people take negative feedback pretty poorly, and this should NEVER be expressed in front of others.

Bottom line is what I would do is simply take each of the juniors at a time and tell them personally what bothers me about their behavior.

In example:

You: Hey John, I wanted to tell you that it seems to me as though I am not
taken seriously in this group. Do you have any suggestions in which I
could improve this, with regards to this?

John: We do take you seriously bla bla.

You: Ok, well I was a bit mislead by all the jokes, and I didn't know what to make of it...

John: Oh, ok, I'll stop, then. Do you want me to tell the others?

You: I think I will talk to them myself, but thanks.

Rinse and repeat with all the others.

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

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  good link user85190
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  Hostfede's Cultural Dimensions are useful, but I think sometimes, somewhat inaccurate...
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  Not sometimes or some what! It's totally out-dated but I mentioned it here because it's a hypocrisy!!! There are lot of changes all over the world and India is not an exception.
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  Culture has consequences that last... Change is happening. But not fast enough for us not to take these in account. Either way, people should seldom generalize...
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Looks like you had expected some respect from the new guys out of gratitude. And since they don't treat you with a mentor like reverence, you are offended.

Is it possible, that they are just over-friendly? A honest chat could possibly resolve it with them...

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

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  Yes I guess that is the case. I became over-friendly. What I think is now I have gone too far. Talking to them about this may not sound good?
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  That is your call to take. If they have said things which is beyond what you can forget, then, maintain a professional relationship. Time is a healer. Concentrate on your work.
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oldest

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3 Answers
3

active

oldest

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active

oldest

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active

oldest

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up vote
4
down vote



accepted

This is a very common issue in India. Since Indians fall in between multiactive and reactive culture line. The seniors would expect respect. This is no one's fault. The tradition is as such made everyone in this country to behave with respect. Even though I can't able to see any questions from you, I can suggest you something as below,

1. Be focused on work,


2. The reason of those juniors not addressing you with a respect should not affect the work.


3. Since people work as programmer and the job they are in; makes them to think the company is adapting US culture of addressing co-workers or senior programmers with their first name. Which is being un-pleasant for some people.


4. Get them to a table or just express strongly at once while they call you with your name or anything which makes you offend, that you don't like the way that they use to address you and ask them to address you in way that you would like to be called.


5. Don't get disturbed with their addressing method to you and spoil your productivity. your ultimate goal is to work, perform, grow and get paid.


6. If they still don't listen to you and keep addressing you in way that you don't like. Then obviously you should take this to your decision making authority in your office to warn them severely. Make sure their friendship with you is not getting spoiled at the same time.


7. If there is no effect after all this... Just stop talking to them unless it's official.

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 29 '13 at 6:41

answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

292211

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  Thanks for the response. At the moment I am following step 7. :)
  – Sachinist
  Oct 28 '13 at 9:45
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
4
down vote



accepted

This is a very common issue in India. Since Indians fall in between multiactive and reactive culture line. The seniors would expect respect. This is no one's fault. The tradition is as such made everyone in this country to behave with respect. Even though I can't able to see any questions from you, I can suggest you something as below,

1. Be focused on work,


2. The reason of those juniors not addressing you with a respect should not affect the work.


3. Since people work as programmer and the job they are in; makes them to think the company is adapting US culture of addressing co-workers or senior programmers with their first name. Which is being un-pleasant for some people.


4. Get them to a table or just express strongly at once while they call you with your name or anything which makes you offend, that you don't like the way that they use to address you and ask them to address you in way that you would like to be called.


5. Don't get disturbed with their addressing method to you and spoil your productivity. your ultimate goal is to work, perform, grow and get paid.


6. If they still don't listen to you and keep addressing you in way that you don't like. Then obviously you should take this to your decision making authority in your office to warn them severely. Make sure their friendship with you is not getting spoiled at the same time.


7. If there is no effect after all this... Just stop talking to them unless it's official.

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 29 '13 at 6:41

answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

292211

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  Thanks for the response. At the moment I am following step 7. :)
  – Sachinist
  Oct 28 '13 at 9:45
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
4
down vote



accepted

up vote
4
down vote



accepted

This is a very common issue in India. Since Indians fall in between multiactive and reactive culture line. The seniors would expect respect. This is no one's fault. The tradition is as such made everyone in this country to behave with respect. Even though I can't able to see any questions from you, I can suggest you something as below,

1. Be focused on work,


2. The reason of those juniors not addressing you with a respect should not affect the work.


3. Since people work as programmer and the job they are in; makes them to think the company is adapting US culture of addressing co-workers or senior programmers with their first name. Which is being un-pleasant for some people.


4. Get them to a table or just express strongly at once while they call you with your name or anything which makes you offend, that you don't like the way that they use to address you and ask them to address you in way that you would like to be called.


5. Don't get disturbed with their addressing method to you and spoil your productivity. your ultimate goal is to work, perform, grow and get paid.


6. If they still don't listen to you and keep addressing you in way that you don't like. Then obviously you should take this to your decision making authority in your office to warn them severely. Make sure their friendship with you is not getting spoiled at the same time.


7. If there is no effect after all this... Just stop talking to them unless it's official.

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 29 '13 at 6:41

answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

292211

This is a very common issue in India. Since Indians fall in between multiactive and reactive culture line. The seniors would expect respect. This is no one's fault. The tradition is as such made everyone in this country to behave with respect. Even though I can't able to see any questions from you, I can suggest you something as below,

1. Be focused on work,


2. The reason of those juniors not addressing you with a respect should not affect the work.


3. Since people work as programmer and the job they are in; makes them to think the company is adapting US culture of addressing co-workers or senior programmers with their first name. Which is being un-pleasant for some people.


4. Get them to a table or just express strongly at once while they call you with your name or anything which makes you offend, that you don't like the way that they use to address you and ask them to address you in way that you would like to be called.


5. Don't get disturbed with their addressing method to you and spoil your productivity. your ultimate goal is to work, perform, grow and get paid.


6. If they still don't listen to you and keep addressing you in way that you don't like. Then obviously you should take this to your decision making authority in your office to warn them severely. Make sure their friendship with you is not getting spoiled at the same time.


7. If there is no effect after all this... Just stop talking to them unless it's official.

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 29 '13 at 6:41

answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

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edited Oct 29 '13 at 6:41

edited Oct 29 '13 at 6:41

answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 9:43

Neocortex

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  Thanks for the response. At the moment I am following step 7. :)
  – Sachinist
  Oct 28 '13 at 9:45
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

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  Thanks for the response. At the moment I am following step 7. :)
  – Sachinist
  Oct 28 '13 at 9:45
  

  
  
  
  

Thanks for the response. At the moment I am following step 7. :)
– Sachinist
Oct 28 '13 at 9:45

Thanks for the response. At the moment I am following step 7. :)
– Sachinist
Oct 28 '13 at 9:45

add a comment | 

up vote
6
down vote

I have come across the same issue
As far as I see, India has a high PDI:
http://geert-hofstede.com/india.html

Power distance

This dimension deals with the fact that all individuals in societies
are not equal – it expresses the attitude of the culture towards these
inequalities amongst us.

Power distance is defined as the extent to which the less powerful
members of institutions and organisations within a country expect and
accept that power is distributed inequally.

India scores high on this dimension, 77, indicating an appreciation
for hierarchy and a Top – Down Structure in society and Organizations.
If one were to encapsulate the Indian attitude, one could use the
following words and phrases : dependent on the boss or the powerholder
for direction, acceptance of un-equal rights between the
power-priviledged and those who are lesser down in the pecking order,
immediate superiors accessible but one layer above less so,
paternalistic leader, management directs, gives reason / meaning to
ones work life and rewards in exchange for loyalty from employees.
Real Power is centralized even though it may not appear to be and
managers count on the obedience of their team members.Employees expect
to be directed clearly as to their functions and what is expected of
them. Control is familiar, even a psychological security, and
attitude towards managers are formal even if one is on first name
basis. Communication is top down and directive in its style and often
feedback which is negative is never offered up the ladder.

This would mean that as their superior, you have a socially accepted right to offer them feedback, as to what they're doing is not ok.

As far as I know though, in India people take negative feedback pretty poorly, and this should NEVER be expressed in front of others.

Bottom line is what I would do is simply take each of the juniors at a time and tell them personally what bothers me about their behavior.

In example:

You: Hey John, I wanted to tell you that it seems to me as though I am not
taken seriously in this group. Do you have any suggestions in which I
could improve this, with regards to this?

John: We do take you seriously bla bla.

You: Ok, well I was a bit mislead by all the jokes, and I didn't know what to make of it...

John: Oh, ok, I'll stop, then. Do you want me to tell the others?

You: I think I will talk to them myself, but thanks.

Rinse and repeat with all the others.

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

Hard Worker

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  good link user85190
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:20
  

  
  
  
  


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  Hostfede's Cultural Dimensions are useful, but I think sometimes, somewhat inaccurate...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:03
  

  
  
  
  


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  Not sometimes or some what! It's totally out-dated but I mentioned it here because it's a hypocrisy!!! There are lot of changes all over the world and India is not an exception.
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:40
  
  

  
  
  
  


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  Culture has consequences that last... Change is happening. But not fast enough for us not to take these in account. Either way, people should seldom generalize...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 13:21
  

  
  
  
  

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up vote
6
down vote

I have come across the same issue
As far as I see, India has a high PDI:
http://geert-hofstede.com/india.html

Power distance

This dimension deals with the fact that all individuals in societies
are not equal – it expresses the attitude of the culture towards these
inequalities amongst us.

Power distance is defined as the extent to which the less powerful
members of institutions and organisations within a country expect and
accept that power is distributed inequally.

India scores high on this dimension, 77, indicating an appreciation
for hierarchy and a Top – Down Structure in society and Organizations.
If one were to encapsulate the Indian attitude, one could use the
following words and phrases : dependent on the boss or the powerholder
for direction, acceptance of un-equal rights between the
power-priviledged and those who are lesser down in the pecking order,
immediate superiors accessible but one layer above less so,
paternalistic leader, management directs, gives reason / meaning to
ones work life and rewards in exchange for loyalty from employees.
Real Power is centralized even though it may not appear to be and
managers count on the obedience of their team members.Employees expect
to be directed clearly as to their functions and what is expected of
them. Control is familiar, even a psychological security, and
attitude towards managers are formal even if one is on first name
basis. Communication is top down and directive in its style and often
feedback which is negative is never offered up the ladder.

This would mean that as their superior, you have a socially accepted right to offer them feedback, as to what they're doing is not ok.

As far as I know though, in India people take negative feedback pretty poorly, and this should NEVER be expressed in front of others.

Bottom line is what I would do is simply take each of the juniors at a time and tell them personally what bothers me about their behavior.

In example:

You: Hey John, I wanted to tell you that it seems to me as though I am not
taken seriously in this group. Do you have any suggestions in which I
could improve this, with regards to this?

John: We do take you seriously bla bla.

You: Ok, well I was a bit mislead by all the jokes, and I didn't know what to make of it...

John: Oh, ok, I'll stop, then. Do you want me to tell the others?

You: I think I will talk to them myself, but thanks.

Rinse and repeat with all the others.

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

Hard Worker

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  good link user85190
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:20
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Hostfede's Cultural Dimensions are useful, but I think sometimes, somewhat inaccurate...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Not sometimes or some what! It's totally out-dated but I mentioned it here because it's a hypocrisy!!! There are lot of changes all over the world and India is not an exception.
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:40
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Culture has consequences that last... Change is happening. But not fast enough for us not to take these in account. Either way, people should seldom generalize...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 13:21
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
6
down vote

up vote
6
down vote

I have come across the same issue
As far as I see, India has a high PDI:
http://geert-hofstede.com/india.html

Power distance

This dimension deals with the fact that all individuals in societies
are not equal – it expresses the attitude of the culture towards these
inequalities amongst us.

Power distance is defined as the extent to which the less powerful
members of institutions and organisations within a country expect and
accept that power is distributed inequally.

India scores high on this dimension, 77, indicating an appreciation
for hierarchy and a Top – Down Structure in society and Organizations.
If one were to encapsulate the Indian attitude, one could use the
following words and phrases : dependent on the boss or the powerholder
for direction, acceptance of un-equal rights between the
power-priviledged and those who are lesser down in the pecking order,
immediate superiors accessible but one layer above less so,
paternalistic leader, management directs, gives reason / meaning to
ones work life and rewards in exchange for loyalty from employees.
Real Power is centralized even though it may not appear to be and
managers count on the obedience of their team members.Employees expect
to be directed clearly as to their functions and what is expected of
them. Control is familiar, even a psychological security, and
attitude towards managers are formal even if one is on first name
basis. Communication is top down and directive in its style and often
feedback which is negative is never offered up the ladder.

This would mean that as their superior, you have a socially accepted right to offer them feedback, as to what they're doing is not ok.

As far as I know though, in India people take negative feedback pretty poorly, and this should NEVER be expressed in front of others.

Bottom line is what I would do is simply take each of the juniors at a time and tell them personally what bothers me about their behavior.

In example:

You: Hey John, I wanted to tell you that it seems to me as though I am not
taken seriously in this group. Do you have any suggestions in which I
could improve this, with regards to this?

John: We do take you seriously bla bla.

You: Ok, well I was a bit mislead by all the jokes, and I didn't know what to make of it...

John: Oh, ok, I'll stop, then. Do you want me to tell the others?

You: I think I will talk to them myself, but thanks.

Rinse and repeat with all the others.

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

Hard Worker

306214

I have come across the same issue
As far as I see, India has a high PDI:
http://geert-hofstede.com/india.html

Power distance

This dimension deals with the fact that all individuals in societies
are not equal – it expresses the attitude of the culture towards these
inequalities amongst us.

Power distance is defined as the extent to which the less powerful
members of institutions and organisations within a country expect and
accept that power is distributed inequally.

India scores high on this dimension, 77, indicating an appreciation
for hierarchy and a Top – Down Structure in society and Organizations.
If one were to encapsulate the Indian attitude, one could use the
following words and phrases : dependent on the boss or the powerholder
for direction, acceptance of un-equal rights between the
power-priviledged and those who are lesser down in the pecking order,
immediate superiors accessible but one layer above less so,
paternalistic leader, management directs, gives reason / meaning to
ones work life and rewards in exchange for loyalty from employees.
Real Power is centralized even though it may not appear to be and
managers count on the obedience of their team members.Employees expect
to be directed clearly as to their functions and what is expected of
them. Control is familiar, even a psychological security, and
attitude towards managers are formal even if one is on first name
basis. Communication is top down and directive in its style and often
feedback which is negative is never offered up the ladder.

This would mean that as their superior, you have a socially accepted right to offer them feedback, as to what they're doing is not ok.

As far as I know though, in India people take negative feedback pretty poorly, and this should NEVER be expressed in front of others.

Bottom line is what I would do is simply take each of the juniors at a time and tell them personally what bothers me about their behavior.

In example:

You: Hey John, I wanted to tell you that it seems to me as though I am not
taken seriously in this group. Do you have any suggestions in which I
could improve this, with regards to this?

John: We do take you seriously bla bla.

You: Ok, well I was a bit mislead by all the jokes, and I didn't know what to make of it...

John: Oh, ok, I'll stop, then. Do you want me to tell the others?

You: I think I will talk to them myself, but thanks.

Rinse and repeat with all the others.

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answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

Hard Worker

306214

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share|improve this answer

answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

Hard Worker

306214

answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

Hard Worker

306214

answered Oct 28 '13 at 10:17

Hard Worker

306214

306214

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  good link user85190
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:20
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Hostfede's Cultural Dimensions are useful, but I think sometimes, somewhat inaccurate...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Not sometimes or some what! It's totally out-dated but I mentioned it here because it's a hypocrisy!!! There are lot of changes all over the world and India is not an exception.
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:40
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Culture has consequences that last... Change is happening. But not fast enough for us not to take these in account. Either way, people should seldom generalize...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 13:21
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  good link user85190
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 10:20
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Hostfede's Cultural Dimensions are useful, but I think sometimes, somewhat inaccurate...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:03
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Not sometimes or some what! It's totally out-dated but I mentioned it here because it's a hypocrisy!!! There are lot of changes all over the world and India is not an exception.
  – Neocortex
  Oct 28 '13 at 12:40
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Culture has consequences that last... Change is happening. But not fast enough for us not to take these in account. Either way, people should seldom generalize...
  – Hard Worker
  Oct 28 '13 at 13:21
  

  
  
  
  

good link user85190
– Neocortex
Oct 28 '13 at 10:20

good link user85190
– Neocortex
Oct 28 '13 at 10:20

Hostfede's Cultural Dimensions are useful, but I think sometimes, somewhat inaccurate...
– Hard Worker
Oct 28 '13 at 12:03

Hostfede's Cultural Dimensions are useful, but I think sometimes, somewhat inaccurate...
– Hard Worker
Oct 28 '13 at 12:03

Not sometimes or some what! It's totally out-dated but I mentioned it here because it's a hypocrisy!!! There are lot of changes all over the world and India is not an exception.
– Neocortex
Oct 28 '13 at 12:40

Not sometimes or some what! It's totally out-dated but I mentioned it here because it's a hypocrisy!!! There are lot of changes all over the world and India is not an exception.
– Neocortex
Oct 28 '13 at 12:40

Culture has consequences that last... Change is happening. But not fast enough for us not to take these in account. Either way, people should seldom generalize...
– Hard Worker
Oct 28 '13 at 13:21

Culture has consequences that last... Change is happening. But not fast enough for us not to take these in account. Either way, people should seldom generalize...
– Hard Worker
Oct 28 '13 at 13:21

add a comment | 

up vote
3
down vote

Looks like you had expected some respect from the new guys out of gratitude. And since they don't treat you with a mentor like reverence, you are offended.

Is it possible, that they are just over-friendly? A honest chat could possibly resolve it with them...

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edited Oct 28 '13 at 15:50

answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

TheSilverBullet

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  Yes I guess that is the case. I became over-friendly. What I think is now I have gone too far. Talking to them about this may not sound good?
  – Sachinist
  Oct 29 '13 at 4:46
  

  
  
  
  


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  That is your call to take. If they have said things which is beyond what you can forget, then, maintain a professional relationship. Time is a healer. Concentrate on your work.
  – TheSilverBullet
  Oct 29 '13 at 7:10
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
3
down vote

Looks like you had expected some respect from the new guys out of gratitude. And since they don't treat you with a mentor like reverence, you are offended.

Is it possible, that they are just over-friendly? A honest chat could possibly resolve it with them...

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 28 '13 at 15:50

answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

TheSilverBullet

3001411

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  Yes I guess that is the case. I became over-friendly. What I think is now I have gone too far. Talking to them about this may not sound good?
  – Sachinist
  Oct 29 '13 at 4:46
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  That is your call to take. If they have said things which is beyond what you can forget, then, maintain a professional relationship. Time is a healer. Concentrate on your work.
  – TheSilverBullet
  Oct 29 '13 at 7:10
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

up vote
3
down vote

up vote
3
down vote

Looks like you had expected some respect from the new guys out of gratitude. And since they don't treat you with a mentor like reverence, you are offended.

Is it possible, that they are just over-friendly? A honest chat could possibly resolve it with them...

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 28 '13 at 15:50

answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

TheSilverBullet

3001411

Looks like you had expected some respect from the new guys out of gratitude. And since they don't treat you with a mentor like reverence, you are offended.

Is it possible, that they are just over-friendly? A honest chat could possibly resolve it with them...

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 28 '13 at 15:50

answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

TheSilverBullet

3001411

share|improve this answer

share|improve this answer

edited Oct 28 '13 at 15:50

edited Oct 28 '13 at 15:50

edited Oct 28 '13 at 15:50

answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

TheSilverBullet

3001411

answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

TheSilverBullet

3001411

answered Oct 28 '13 at 12:52

TheSilverBullet

3001411

3001411

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  Yes I guess that is the case. I became over-friendly. What I think is now I have gone too far. Talking to them about this may not sound good?
  – Sachinist
  Oct 29 '13 at 4:46
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  That is your call to take. If they have said things which is beyond what you can forget, then, maintain a professional relationship. Time is a healer. Concentrate on your work.
  – TheSilverBullet
  Oct 29 '13 at 7:10
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  Yes I guess that is the case. I became over-friendly. What I think is now I have gone too far. Talking to them about this may not sound good?
  – Sachinist
  Oct 29 '13 at 4:46
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  That is your call to take. If they have said things which is beyond what you can forget, then, maintain a professional relationship. Time is a healer. Concentrate on your work.
  – TheSilverBullet
  Oct 29 '13 at 7:10
  

  
  
  
  

Yes I guess that is the case. I became over-friendly. What I think is now I have gone too far. Talking to them about this may not sound good?
– Sachinist
Oct 29 '13 at 4:46

Yes I guess that is the case. I became over-friendly. What I think is now I have gone too far. Talking to them about this may not sound good?
– Sachinist
Oct 29 '13 at 4:46

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1

That is your call to take. If they have said things which is beyond what you can forget, then, maintain a professional relationship. Time is a healer. Concentrate on your work.
– TheSilverBullet
Oct 29 '13 at 7:10

That is your call to take. If they have said things which is beyond what you can forget, then, maintain a professional relationship. Time is a healer. Concentrate on your work.
– TheSilverBullet
Oct 29 '13 at 7:10

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