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Received ultimatum letter identifying previously undocumented performance issues with demotion and pay reduction. This occurred after company acquired and I am last person standing from original senior management team.
Submitted response with cure date prior to pay decrease. Response was to add additional responsibilities and no resolution on response, demotion, pay reduction and hours worked.
Submitted verbal and written resignation. CEO directed me to take a day or two off to think about it and has not accepted resignation. Told him my resignation date is official when I left to think about it.
No change in decision, do I need to provide 2 weeks notice or not?
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asked Mar 10 '16 at 14:51
Jay Patterson
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closed as off-topic by Philip Kendall, nvoigt, The Wandering Dev Manager, HopelessN00b, Dan Pichelman Mar 10 '16 at 16:01
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Received ultimatum letter identifying previously undocumented performance issues with demotion and pay reduction. This occurred after company acquired and I am last person standing from original senior management team.
Submitted response with cure date prior to pay decrease. Response was to add additional responsibilities and no resolution on response, demotion, pay reduction and hours worked.
Submitted verbal and written resignation. CEO directed me to take a day or two off to think about it and has not accepted resignation. Told him my resignation date is official when I left to think about it.
No change in decision, do I need to provide 2 weeks notice or not?
professionalism
asked Mar 10 '16 at 14:51
Jay Patterson
141
closed as off-topic by Philip Kendall, nvoigt, The Wandering Dev Manager, HopelessN00b, Dan Pichelman Mar 10 '16 at 16:01
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Philip Kendall, nvoigt, The Wandering Dev Manager, HopelessN00b, Dan Pichelman
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Hi Jay. You need to look at the terms of your contract and consult with a lawyer if need be. You shouldn't be asking or taking legal advice from anyone on the internet.
– user29055
Mar 10 '16 at 14:55
@Jake : your comment should be a full answer.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
This depends on your contract and/or country. Its possible you can just say "I quit" and walk out if you don't have a contract or an employment law in your country that requires it.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
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@gazzz0x2z The correct course of action for any SE site is to comment and vote to close when you know a question is not acceptable, not post an answer saying "this question isn't acceptable for this site."
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 15:22
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Has it actually been 2 weeks since you gave notice? The fact that the CEO didn't "accept" the resignation at first doesn't seem important, but as others said, you've got to check your contract and/or laywer for a definitive answer.
– Brandin
Mar 10 '16 at 15:52
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Received ultimatum letter identifying previously undocumented performance issues with demotion and pay reduction. This occurred after company acquired and I am last person standing from original senior management team.
Submitted response with cure date prior to pay decrease. Response was to add additional responsibilities and no resolution on response, demotion, pay reduction and hours worked.
Submitted verbal and written resignation. CEO directed me to take a day or two off to think about it and has not accepted resignation. Told him my resignation date is official when I left to think about it.
No change in decision, do I need to provide 2 weeks notice or not?
professionalism
asked Mar 10 '16 at 14:51
Jay Patterson
141
Received ultimatum letter identifying previously undocumented performance issues with demotion and pay reduction. This occurred after company acquired and I am last person standing from original senior management team.
Submitted response with cure date prior to pay decrease. Response was to add additional responsibilities and no resolution on response, demotion, pay reduction and hours worked.
Submitted verbal and written resignation. CEO directed me to take a day or two off to think about it and has not accepted resignation. Told him my resignation date is official when I left to think about it.
No change in decision, do I need to provide 2 weeks notice or not?
professionalism
asked Mar 10 '16 at 14:51
Jay Patterson
141
asked Mar 10 '16 at 14:51
Jay Patterson
141
asked Mar 10 '16 at 14:51
Jay Patterson
141
asked Mar 10 '16 at 14:51
Jay Patterson
141
141
closed as off-topic by Philip Kendall, nvoigt, The Wandering Dev Manager, HopelessN00b, Dan Pichelman Mar 10 '16 at 16:01
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Philip Kendall, nvoigt, The Wandering Dev Manager, HopelessN00b, Dan Pichelman
closed as off-topic by Philip Kendall, nvoigt, The Wandering Dev Manager, HopelessN00b, Dan Pichelman Mar 10 '16 at 16:01
This question appears to be off-topic. The users who voted to close gave this specific reason:
- "Questions seeking advice on company-specific regulations, agreements, or policies should be directed to your manager or HR department. Questions that address only a specific company or position are of limited use to future visitors. Questions seeking legal advice should be directed to legal professionals. For more information, click here." – Philip Kendall, nvoigt, The Wandering Dev Manager, HopelessN00b, Dan Pichelman
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Hi Jay. You need to look at the terms of your contract and consult with a lawyer if need be. You shouldn't be asking or taking legal advice from anyone on the internet.
– user29055
Mar 10 '16 at 14:55
@Jake : your comment should be a full answer.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
This depends on your contract and/or country. Its possible you can just say "I quit" and walk out if you don't have a contract or an employment law in your country that requires it.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
2
@gazzz0x2z The correct course of action for any SE site is to comment and vote to close when you know a question is not acceptable, not post an answer saying "this question isn't acceptable for this site."
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 15:22
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Has it actually been 2 weeks since you gave notice? The fact that the CEO didn't "accept" the resignation at first doesn't seem important, but as others said, you've got to check your contract and/or laywer for a definitive answer.
– Brandin
Mar 10 '16 at 15:52
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Hi Jay. You need to look at the terms of your contract and consult with a lawyer if need be. You shouldn't be asking or taking legal advice from anyone on the internet.
– user29055
Mar 10 '16 at 14:55
@Jake : your comment should be a full answer.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
This depends on your contract and/or country. Its possible you can just say "I quit" and walk out if you don't have a contract or an employment law in your country that requires it.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
2
@gazzz0x2z The correct course of action for any SE site is to comment and vote to close when you know a question is not acceptable, not post an answer saying "this question isn't acceptable for this site."
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 15:22
1
Has it actually been 2 weeks since you gave notice? The fact that the CEO didn't "accept" the resignation at first doesn't seem important, but as others said, you've got to check your contract and/or laywer for a definitive answer.
– Brandin
Mar 10 '16 at 15:52
6
6
Hi Jay. You need to look at the terms of your contract and consult with a lawyer if need be. You shouldn't be asking or taking legal advice from anyone on the internet.
– user29055
Mar 10 '16 at 14:55
Hi Jay. You need to look at the terms of your contract and consult with a lawyer if need be. You shouldn't be asking or taking legal advice from anyone on the internet.
– user29055
Mar 10 '16 at 14:55
@Jake : your comment should be a full answer.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
@Jake : your comment should be a full answer.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
This depends on your contract and/or country. Its possible you can just say "I quit" and walk out if you don't have a contract or an employment law in your country that requires it.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
This depends on your contract and/or country. Its possible you can just say "I quit" and walk out if you don't have a contract or an employment law in your country that requires it.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
2
2
@gazzz0x2z The correct course of action for any SE site is to comment and vote to close when you know a question is not acceptable, not post an answer saying "this question isn't acceptable for this site."
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 15:22
@gazzz0x2z The correct course of action for any SE site is to comment and vote to close when you know a question is not acceptable, not post an answer saying "this question isn't acceptable for this site."
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 15:22
1
1
Has it actually been 2 weeks since you gave notice? The fact that the CEO didn't "accept" the resignation at first doesn't seem important, but as others said, you've got to check your contract and/or laywer for a definitive answer.
– Brandin
Mar 10 '16 at 15:52
Has it actually been 2 weeks since you gave notice? The fact that the CEO didn't "accept" the resignation at first doesn't seem important, but as others said, you've got to check your contract and/or laywer for a definitive answer.
– Brandin
Mar 10 '16 at 15:52
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If your resignation is 'not accepted' then you can, if you want, change your mind about resigning. So let's assume you haven't resigned.
In most countries a company cannot arbitrarily make major changes to your salary or job description. If they do, it can be considered tantamount to dismissal (look up 'constructive dismissal'). If the company proceeds with this, get legal advice before you do anything - however in many cases the law will treat you as having been disimissed if you resign as a result of such changes, entitling you to severance pay (if applicable), unemployment benefits, and possibly other compensation.
The fact that you were told to 'think it over' seems to me that they want to keep you, and that means they are open to negotiations. Go back and negotiate, especially on the salary front. If you negotiate a better package, even if its not what you would want, you can always resign later when you find something better, and you will be paid more while you are looking.
Also make sure you don't do anything unprofessional like quitting without notice. Such actions might be used against you if it comes to the law. But your lawyer will tell you more.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
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Note: Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract. They can offer that you accept a reduced salary, and if you don't accept it, they can fire you. With two weeks notice or whatever your notice is, at the full salary.
To be honest, you should have asked here before handing in your resignation. Never jump, wait until you're pushed. (Not literally never, but it's a good rule of thumb). Maybe since they didn't accept your resignation, it doesn't count, but if they have it in writing, your chances are slim.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
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"Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract." They can reduce his salary if it's written into his contract.
– GreenMatt
Mar 10 '16 at 16:34
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If your resignation is 'not accepted' then you can, if you want, change your mind about resigning. So let's assume you haven't resigned.
In most countries a company cannot arbitrarily make major changes to your salary or job description. If they do, it can be considered tantamount to dismissal (look up 'constructive dismissal'). If the company proceeds with this, get legal advice before you do anything - however in many cases the law will treat you as having been disimissed if you resign as a result of such changes, entitling you to severance pay (if applicable), unemployment benefits, and possibly other compensation.
The fact that you were told to 'think it over' seems to me that they want to keep you, and that means they are open to negotiations. Go back and negotiate, especially on the salary front. If you negotiate a better package, even if its not what you would want, you can always resign later when you find something better, and you will be paid more while you are looking.
Also make sure you don't do anything unprofessional like quitting without notice. Such actions might be used against you if it comes to the law. But your lawyer will tell you more.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
40.7k886146
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up vote
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If your resignation is 'not accepted' then you can, if you want, change your mind about resigning. So let's assume you haven't resigned.
In most countries a company cannot arbitrarily make major changes to your salary or job description. If they do, it can be considered tantamount to dismissal (look up 'constructive dismissal'). If the company proceeds with this, get legal advice before you do anything - however in many cases the law will treat you as having been disimissed if you resign as a result of such changes, entitling you to severance pay (if applicable), unemployment benefits, and possibly other compensation.
The fact that you were told to 'think it over' seems to me that they want to keep you, and that means they are open to negotiations. Go back and negotiate, especially on the salary front. If you negotiate a better package, even if its not what you would want, you can always resign later when you find something better, and you will be paid more while you are looking.
Also make sure you don't do anything unprofessional like quitting without notice. Such actions might be used against you if it comes to the law. But your lawyer will tell you more.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
40.7k886146
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up vote
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up vote
3
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If your resignation is 'not accepted' then you can, if you want, change your mind about resigning. So let's assume you haven't resigned.
In most countries a company cannot arbitrarily make major changes to your salary or job description. If they do, it can be considered tantamount to dismissal (look up 'constructive dismissal'). If the company proceeds with this, get legal advice before you do anything - however in many cases the law will treat you as having been disimissed if you resign as a result of such changes, entitling you to severance pay (if applicable), unemployment benefits, and possibly other compensation.
The fact that you were told to 'think it over' seems to me that they want to keep you, and that means they are open to negotiations. Go back and negotiate, especially on the salary front. If you negotiate a better package, even if its not what you would want, you can always resign later when you find something better, and you will be paid more while you are looking.
Also make sure you don't do anything unprofessional like quitting without notice. Such actions might be used against you if it comes to the law. But your lawyer will tell you more.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
40.7k886146
If your resignation is 'not accepted' then you can, if you want, change your mind about resigning. So let's assume you haven't resigned.
In most countries a company cannot arbitrarily make major changes to your salary or job description. If they do, it can be considered tantamount to dismissal (look up 'constructive dismissal'). If the company proceeds with this, get legal advice before you do anything - however in many cases the law will treat you as having been disimissed if you resign as a result of such changes, entitling you to severance pay (if applicable), unemployment benefits, and possibly other compensation.
The fact that you were told to 'think it over' seems to me that they want to keep you, and that means they are open to negotiations. Go back and negotiate, especially on the salary front. If you negotiate a better package, even if its not what you would want, you can always resign later when you find something better, and you will be paid more while you are looking.
Also make sure you don't do anything unprofessional like quitting without notice. Such actions might be used against you if it comes to the law. But your lawyer will tell you more.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
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answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
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answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
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answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:51
DJClayworth
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40.7k886146
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suggest improvements |Â
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Note: Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract. They can offer that you accept a reduced salary, and if you don't accept it, they can fire you. With two weeks notice or whatever your notice is, at the full salary.
To be honest, you should have asked here before handing in your resignation. Never jump, wait until you're pushed. (Not literally never, but it's a good rule of thumb). Maybe since they didn't accept your resignation, it doesn't count, but if they have it in writing, your chances are slim.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
70.8k31131222
"Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract." They can reduce his salary if it's written into his contract.
– GreenMatt
Mar 10 '16 at 16:34
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up vote
0
down vote
Note: Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract. They can offer that you accept a reduced salary, and if you don't accept it, they can fire you. With two weeks notice or whatever your notice is, at the full salary.
To be honest, you should have asked here before handing in your resignation. Never jump, wait until you're pushed. (Not literally never, but it's a good rule of thumb). Maybe since they didn't accept your resignation, it doesn't count, but if they have it in writing, your chances are slim.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
70.8k31131222
"Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract." They can reduce his salary if it's written into his contract.
– GreenMatt
Mar 10 '16 at 16:34
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Note: Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract. They can offer that you accept a reduced salary, and if you don't accept it, they can fire you. With two weeks notice or whatever your notice is, at the full salary.
To be honest, you should have asked here before handing in your resignation. Never jump, wait until you're pushed. (Not literally never, but it's a good rule of thumb). Maybe since they didn't accept your resignation, it doesn't count, but if they have it in writing, your chances are slim.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
70.8k31131222
Note: Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract. They can offer that you accept a reduced salary, and if you don't accept it, they can fire you. With two weeks notice or whatever your notice is, at the full salary.
To be honest, you should have asked here before handing in your resignation. Never jump, wait until you're pushed. (Not literally never, but it's a good rule of thumb). Maybe since they didn't accept your resignation, it doesn't count, but if they have it in writing, your chances are slim.
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
70.8k31131222
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
70.8k31131222
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
70.8k31131222
answered Mar 10 '16 at 15:33
gnasher729
70.8k31131222
70.8k31131222
"Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract." They can reduce his salary if it's written into his contract.
– GreenMatt
Mar 10 '16 at 16:34
suggest improvements |Â
"Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract." They can reduce his salary if it's written into his contract.
– GreenMatt
Mar 10 '16 at 16:34
"Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract." They can reduce his salary if it's written into his contract.
– GreenMatt
Mar 10 '16 at 16:34
"Nobody can reduce your salary, because that's in your contract." They can reduce his salary if it's written into his contract.
– GreenMatt
Mar 10 '16 at 16:34
suggest improvements |Â
6
Hi Jay. You need to look at the terms of your contract and consult with a lawyer if need be. You shouldn't be asking or taking legal advice from anyone on the internet.
– user29055
Mar 10 '16 at 14:55
@Jake : your comment should be a full answer.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
This depends on your contract and/or country. Its possible you can just say "I quit" and walk out if you don't have a contract or an employment law in your country that requires it.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 10 '16 at 15:18
2
@gazzz0x2z The correct course of action for any SE site is to comment and vote to close when you know a question is not acceptable, not post an answer saying "this question isn't acceptable for this site."
– user41761
Mar 10 '16 at 15:22
1
Has it actually been 2 weeks since you gave notice? The fact that the CEO didn't "accept" the resignation at first doesn't seem important, but as others said, you've got to check your contract and/or laywer for a definitive answer.
– Brandin
Mar 10 '16 at 15:52