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I just recently received a job offer (yay) but I'm unsure what should be filled in the blank lines of this part from my job offer.
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I just recently received a job offer (yay) but I'm unsure what should be filled in the blank lines of this part from my job offer.
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A simple solution is to call them and ask what this means.
– gnasher729
Mar 3 '16 at 16:29
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Others have answered with what is expected in the form. I'm just a bit concerned about exactly what "proprietary rights" you are assigning them. I I'm not used to seeing an intellectual property rights agreement built into the offer. If in any doubt, it may be worth paying a lawyer to sanity check that language.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 18:52
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My problem isn't the ip agreement -- it's just that I hadn't seen one signed quite this early in the process. If that's really now the norm, OK.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 19:51
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You might want to read the section before this carefully: Proprietary Rights might be something that can effect the rest of your life...
– corsiKa
Mar 3 '16 at 20:10
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I just recently received a job offer (yay) but I'm unsure what should be filled in the blank lines of this part from my job offer.
job-offer
asked Mar 3 '16 at 15:48
a wee little student
394
I just recently received a job offer (yay) but I'm unsure what should be filled in the blank lines of this part from my job offer.
job-offer
asked Mar 3 '16 at 15:48
a wee little student
394
edited Jan 28 at 2:49
asked Mar 3 '16 at 15:48
a wee little student
394
asked Mar 3 '16 at 15:48
a wee little student
394
asked Mar 3 '16 at 15:48
a wee little student
394
394
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A simple solution is to call them and ask what this means.
– gnasher729
Mar 3 '16 at 16:29
1
Others have answered with what is expected in the form. I'm just a bit concerned about exactly what "proprietary rights" you are assigning them. I I'm not used to seeing an intellectual property rights agreement built into the offer. If in any doubt, it may be worth paying a lawyer to sanity check that language.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 18:52
1
My problem isn't the ip agreement -- it's just that I hadn't seen one signed quite this early in the process. If that's really now the norm, OK.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 19:51
3
You might want to read the section before this carefully: Proprietary Rights might be something that can effect the rest of your life...
– corsiKa
Mar 3 '16 at 20:10
1
The implication of consider the snippet was raised by me in the very first comment and deleted by moderator.
– paparazzo
Mar 3 '16 at 20:31
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A simple solution is to call them and ask what this means.
– gnasher729
Mar 3 '16 at 16:29
1
Others have answered with what is expected in the form. I'm just a bit concerned about exactly what "proprietary rights" you are assigning them. I I'm not used to seeing an intellectual property rights agreement built into the offer. If in any doubt, it may be worth paying a lawyer to sanity check that language.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 18:52
1
My problem isn't the ip agreement -- it's just that I hadn't seen one signed quite this early in the process. If that's really now the norm, OK.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 19:51
3
You might want to read the section before this carefully: Proprietary Rights might be something that can effect the rest of your life...
– corsiKa
Mar 3 '16 at 20:10
1
The implication of consider the snippet was raised by me in the very first comment and deleted by moderator.
– paparazzo
Mar 3 '16 at 20:31
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4
A simple solution is to call them and ask what this means.
– gnasher729
Mar 3 '16 at 16:29
A simple solution is to call them and ask what this means.
– gnasher729
Mar 3 '16 at 16:29
1
1
Others have answered with what is expected in the form. I'm just a bit concerned about exactly what "proprietary rights" you are assigning them. I I'm not used to seeing an intellectual property rights agreement built into the offer. If in any doubt, it may be worth paying a lawyer to sanity check that language.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 18:52
Others have answered with what is expected in the form. I'm just a bit concerned about exactly what "proprietary rights" you are assigning them. I I'm not used to seeing an intellectual property rights agreement built into the offer. If in any doubt, it may be worth paying a lawyer to sanity check that language.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 18:52
1
1
My problem isn't the ip agreement -- it's just that I hadn't seen one signed quite this early in the process. If that's really now the norm, OK.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 19:51
My problem isn't the ip agreement -- it's just that I hadn't seen one signed quite this early in the process. If that's really now the norm, OK.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 19:51
3
3
You might want to read the section before this carefully: Proprietary Rights might be something that can effect the rest of your life...
– corsiKa
Mar 3 '16 at 20:10
You might want to read the section before this carefully: Proprietary Rights might be something that can effect the rest of your life...
– corsiKa
Mar 3 '16 at 20:10
1
1
The implication of consider the snippet was raised by me in the very first comment and deleted by moderator.
– paparazzo
Mar 3 '16 at 20:31
The implication of consider the snippet was raised by me in the very first comment and deleted by moderator.
– paparazzo
Mar 3 '16 at 20:31
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If signing today I would put:
Rights this 3rd day of March, 2016
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
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@jimm101: I've signed quite a few documents where that line just means you are signing it, not that it requires a notary.
– NotMe
Mar 3 '16 at 21:13
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This is correct. People are misreading "In witness whereof"; it merely means that the signature is the employee's affirmation of agreement to the terms. If they required it to be notarized there would be more words there, something like "________, employee, appeared before me and acknowledged that his signature on this document ...".
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:14
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Edited: For anyone like me who thought "in witness whereof" means a separate person needs to witness the document, that is not the case. It is just a legal archaism that is almost meaningless. I based my answer on an unreliable webpage. Thanks to Pete for pointing out my error.
I'm not sure, but I think you should not fill in those lines. "IN WITNESS WHEREOF" means you need to have a witness sign this section, perhaps a notary public with a seal. The witness will fill in the date when they sign.
That being said, if your employer hasn't said anything about needing a witness for this contract you aren't sure how to fill out something in your employment contract, ask them what to do.
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
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No, "witness" here has an old, funky meaning. Webster's online gives this definition: "something serving as evidence or proof". That is, the signature is affirming that the signee agreed to whatever is in the contract.
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:11
The second paragraph of this is better advice "ask them what to do" if you don't know.
– Brandin
Mar 4 '16 at 13:36
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2 Answers
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If signing today I would put:
Rights this 3rd day of March, 2016
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
20.9k55695
@jimm101: I've signed quite a few documents where that line just means you are signing it, not that it requires a notary.
– NotMe
Mar 3 '16 at 21:13
3
This is correct. People are misreading "In witness whereof"; it merely means that the signature is the employee's affirmation of agreement to the terms. If they required it to be notarized there would be more words there, something like "________, employee, appeared before me and acknowledged that his signature on this document ...".
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:14
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
28
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accepted
If signing today I would put:
Rights this 3rd day of March, 2016
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
20.9k55695
@jimm101: I've signed quite a few documents where that line just means you are signing it, not that it requires a notary.
– NotMe
Mar 3 '16 at 21:13
3
This is correct. People are misreading "In witness whereof"; it merely means that the signature is the employee's affirmation of agreement to the terms. If they required it to be notarized there would be more words there, something like "________, employee, appeared before me and acknowledged that his signature on this document ...".
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:14
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
28
down vote
accepted
up vote
28
down vote
accepted
If signing today I would put:
Rights this 3rd day of March, 2016
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
20.9k55695
If signing today I would put:
Rights this 3rd day of March, 2016
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
20.9k55695
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
20.9k55695
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
20.9k55695
answered Mar 3 '16 at 15:52
NotMe
20.9k55695
20.9k55695
@jimm101: I've signed quite a few documents where that line just means you are signing it, not that it requires a notary.
– NotMe
Mar 3 '16 at 21:13
3
This is correct. People are misreading "In witness whereof"; it merely means that the signature is the employee's affirmation of agreement to the terms. If they required it to be notarized there would be more words there, something like "________, employee, appeared before me and acknowledged that his signature on this document ...".
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:14
suggest improvements |Â
@jimm101: I've signed quite a few documents where that line just means you are signing it, not that it requires a notary.
– NotMe
Mar 3 '16 at 21:13
3
This is correct. People are misreading "In witness whereof"; it merely means that the signature is the employee's affirmation of agreement to the terms. If they required it to be notarized there would be more words there, something like "________, employee, appeared before me and acknowledged that his signature on this document ...".
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:14
@jimm101: I've signed quite a few documents where that line just means you are signing it, not that it requires a notary.
– NotMe
Mar 3 '16 at 21:13
@jimm101: I've signed quite a few documents where that line just means you are signing it, not that it requires a notary.
– NotMe
Mar 3 '16 at 21:13
3
3
This is correct. People are misreading "In witness whereof"; it merely means that the signature is the employee's affirmation of agreement to the terms. If they required it to be notarized there would be more words there, something like "________, employee, appeared before me and acknowledged that his signature on this document ...".
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:14
This is correct. People are misreading "In witness whereof"; it merely means that the signature is the employee's affirmation of agreement to the terms. If they required it to be notarized there would be more words there, something like "________, employee, appeared before me and acknowledged that his signature on this document ...".
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:14
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
Edited: For anyone like me who thought "in witness whereof" means a separate person needs to witness the document, that is not the case. It is just a legal archaism that is almost meaningless. I based my answer on an unreliable webpage. Thanks to Pete for pointing out my error.
I'm not sure, but I think you should not fill in those lines. "IN WITNESS WHEREOF" means you need to have a witness sign this section, perhaps a notary public with a seal. The witness will fill in the date when they sign.
That being said, if your employer hasn't said anything about needing a witness for this contract you aren't sure how to fill out something in your employment contract, ask them what to do.
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
1244
5
No, "witness" here has an old, funky meaning. Webster's online gives this definition: "something serving as evidence or proof". That is, the signature is affirming that the signee agreed to whatever is in the contract.
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:11
The second paragraph of this is better advice "ask them what to do" if you don't know.
– Brandin
Mar 4 '16 at 13:36
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
Edited: For anyone like me who thought "in witness whereof" means a separate person needs to witness the document, that is not the case. It is just a legal archaism that is almost meaningless. I based my answer on an unreliable webpage. Thanks to Pete for pointing out my error.
I'm not sure, but I think you should not fill in those lines. "IN WITNESS WHEREOF" means you need to have a witness sign this section, perhaps a notary public with a seal. The witness will fill in the date when they sign.
That being said, if your employer hasn't said anything about needing a witness for this contract you aren't sure how to fill out something in your employment contract, ask them what to do.
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
1244
5
No, "witness" here has an old, funky meaning. Webster's online gives this definition: "something serving as evidence or proof". That is, the signature is affirming that the signee agreed to whatever is in the contract.
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:11
The second paragraph of this is better advice "ask them what to do" if you don't know.
– Brandin
Mar 4 '16 at 13:36
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Edited: For anyone like me who thought "in witness whereof" means a separate person needs to witness the document, that is not the case. It is just a legal archaism that is almost meaningless. I based my answer on an unreliable webpage. Thanks to Pete for pointing out my error.
I'm not sure, but I think you should not fill in those lines. "IN WITNESS WHEREOF" means you need to have a witness sign this section, perhaps a notary public with a seal. The witness will fill in the date when they sign.
That being said, if your employer hasn't said anything about needing a witness for this contract you aren't sure how to fill out something in your employment contract, ask them what to do.
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
1244
Edited: For anyone like me who thought "in witness whereof" means a separate person needs to witness the document, that is not the case. It is just a legal archaism that is almost meaningless. I based my answer on an unreliable webpage. Thanks to Pete for pointing out my error.
I'm not sure, but I think you should not fill in those lines. "IN WITNESS WHEREOF" means you need to have a witness sign this section, perhaps a notary public with a seal. The witness will fill in the date when they sign.
That being said, if your employer hasn't said anything about needing a witness for this contract you aren't sure how to fill out something in your employment contract, ask them what to do.
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
1244
edited Mar 4 '16 at 14:16
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
1244
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
1244
answered Mar 3 '16 at 20:07
Justin
1244
1244
5
No, "witness" here has an old, funky meaning. Webster's online gives this definition: "something serving as evidence or proof". That is, the signature is affirming that the signee agreed to whatever is in the contract.
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:11
The second paragraph of this is better advice "ask them what to do" if you don't know.
– Brandin
Mar 4 '16 at 13:36
suggest improvements |Â
5
No, "witness" here has an old, funky meaning. Webster's online gives this definition: "something serving as evidence or proof". That is, the signature is affirming that the signee agreed to whatever is in the contract.
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:11
The second paragraph of this is better advice "ask them what to do" if you don't know.
– Brandin
Mar 4 '16 at 13:36
5
5
No, "witness" here has an old, funky meaning. Webster's online gives this definition: "something serving as evidence or proof". That is, the signature is affirming that the signee agreed to whatever is in the contract.
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:11
No, "witness" here has an old, funky meaning. Webster's online gives this definition: "something serving as evidence or proof". That is, the signature is affirming that the signee agreed to whatever is in the contract.
– Pete Becker
Mar 3 '16 at 21:11
The second paragraph of this is better advice "ask them what to do" if you don't know.
– Brandin
Mar 4 '16 at 13:36
The second paragraph of this is better advice "ask them what to do" if you don't know.
– Brandin
Mar 4 '16 at 13:36
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A simple solution is to call them and ask what this means.
– gnasher729
Mar 3 '16 at 16:29
1
Others have answered with what is expected in the form. I'm just a bit concerned about exactly what "proprietary rights" you are assigning them. I I'm not used to seeing an intellectual property rights agreement built into the offer. If in any doubt, it may be worth paying a lawyer to sanity check that language.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 18:52
1
My problem isn't the ip agreement -- it's just that I hadn't seen one signed quite this early in the process. If that's really now the norm, OK.
– keshlam
Mar 3 '16 at 19:51
3
You might want to read the section before this carefully: Proprietary Rights might be something that can effect the rest of your life...
– corsiKa
Mar 3 '16 at 20:10
1
The implication of consider the snippet was raised by me in the very first comment and deleted by moderator.
– paparazzo
Mar 3 '16 at 20:31