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I'm in a bit of a pickle. I was recently promoted to a position as a Draft Technician. After about six months of doing excellent design work, I've been transitioning into a database development role, as the demand for tool designs has fallen off. This is something I've undertaken on my own, as I saw the need for the data my company relies on to be converted to database form. This involved teaching myself SQL, MS Access(yes I know, but I have to use what's available), and VBA. I'm about two years from finishing my BS in Computer Science and have been applying that knowledge directly to my daily work.
Since then, I've been working with supervisors of various departments to migrate data collection from writing out production on paper to directly entering it into database, thus saving time and allowing for in-depth production analysis by senior management.
My manager and his superiors see value in my work, but I don't know really how to proceed. As it stands, it feels like i'm getting pigeonholed as a 'Draft Tech', though there's nobody else there that can do what I do. The main issue is the drastic difference in salary between what my title is, and what I actually provide for the company. I don't want to seem greedy, but I feel I deserve better compensation for taking the company in a positive direction solely of my own volition.
I would really appreciate advice on this. While I enjoy where I'm working and what I do, it feels like I'm stuck with a job title that has nothing to do with my current responsibilities.
Thanks
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asked Mar 12 '16 at 18:33
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I'm in a bit of a pickle. I was recently promoted to a position as a Draft Technician. After about six months of doing excellent design work, I've been transitioning into a database development role, as the demand for tool designs has fallen off. This is something I've undertaken on my own, as I saw the need for the data my company relies on to be converted to database form. This involved teaching myself SQL, MS Access(yes I know, but I have to use what's available), and VBA. I'm about two years from finishing my BS in Computer Science and have been applying that knowledge directly to my daily work.
Since then, I've been working with supervisors of various departments to migrate data collection from writing out production on paper to directly entering it into database, thus saving time and allowing for in-depth production analysis by senior management.
My manager and his superiors see value in my work, but I don't know really how to proceed. As it stands, it feels like i'm getting pigeonholed as a 'Draft Tech', though there's nobody else there that can do what I do. The main issue is the drastic difference in salary between what my title is, and what I actually provide for the company. I don't want to seem greedy, but I feel I deserve better compensation for taking the company in a positive direction solely of my own volition.
I would really appreciate advice on this. While I enjoy where I'm working and what I do, it feels like I'm stuck with a job title that has nothing to do with my current responsibilities.
Thanks
promotion job-description
asked Mar 12 '16 at 18:33
X0r
584
1
This has been an ongoing thing. They want me to develop this stuff to make the company more efficient, but when the subject of a raise comes up, my manager basically says my pay is in line with a draft tech, and that my work is project based. Which makes no sense to me at all, because probably only 5% of all my work deals with what I was promoted for initially. This has been frustrating, to say the least. In our plant, I'm the only one capable of doing this work. My boss actually asked me to teach him how to do what I do, which seems pretty brazen.
– X0r
Mar 12 '16 at 18:47
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Are you working fulltime and doing a degree outside of work? Do you have a degree otherwise? It might be that your company will not allow people without a 4-year degree to have certain positions.
– Elysian Fields♦
Mar 12 '16 at 20:32
Interesting Question .+1 .You have been given a bigger job and because you can do it you should in the fullness of time get payed accordingly .If your present company does not value this then another company might .In my neck of the woods it is more common to give people lesser jobs which I think it much worse.
– Autistic
Mar 13 '16 at 0:29
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I'm in a bit of a pickle. I was recently promoted to a position as a Draft Technician. After about six months of doing excellent design work, I've been transitioning into a database development role, as the demand for tool designs has fallen off. This is something I've undertaken on my own, as I saw the need for the data my company relies on to be converted to database form. This involved teaching myself SQL, MS Access(yes I know, but I have to use what's available), and VBA. I'm about two years from finishing my BS in Computer Science and have been applying that knowledge directly to my daily work.
Since then, I've been working with supervisors of various departments to migrate data collection from writing out production on paper to directly entering it into database, thus saving time and allowing for in-depth production analysis by senior management.
My manager and his superiors see value in my work, but I don't know really how to proceed. As it stands, it feels like i'm getting pigeonholed as a 'Draft Tech', though there's nobody else there that can do what I do. The main issue is the drastic difference in salary between what my title is, and what I actually provide for the company. I don't want to seem greedy, but I feel I deserve better compensation for taking the company in a positive direction solely of my own volition.
I would really appreciate advice on this. While I enjoy where I'm working and what I do, it feels like I'm stuck with a job title that has nothing to do with my current responsibilities.
Thanks
promotion job-description
asked Mar 12 '16 at 18:33
X0r
584
I'm in a bit of a pickle. I was recently promoted to a position as a Draft Technician. After about six months of doing excellent design work, I've been transitioning into a database development role, as the demand for tool designs has fallen off. This is something I've undertaken on my own, as I saw the need for the data my company relies on to be converted to database form. This involved teaching myself SQL, MS Access(yes I know, but I have to use what's available), and VBA. I'm about two years from finishing my BS in Computer Science and have been applying that knowledge directly to my daily work.
Since then, I've been working with supervisors of various departments to migrate data collection from writing out production on paper to directly entering it into database, thus saving time and allowing for in-depth production analysis by senior management.
My manager and his superiors see value in my work, but I don't know really how to proceed. As it stands, it feels like i'm getting pigeonholed as a 'Draft Tech', though there's nobody else there that can do what I do. The main issue is the drastic difference in salary between what my title is, and what I actually provide for the company. I don't want to seem greedy, but I feel I deserve better compensation for taking the company in a positive direction solely of my own volition.
I would really appreciate advice on this. While I enjoy where I'm working and what I do, it feels like I'm stuck with a job title that has nothing to do with my current responsibilities.
Thanks
promotion job-description
asked Mar 12 '16 at 18:33
X0r
584
asked Mar 12 '16 at 18:33
X0r
584
asked Mar 12 '16 at 18:33
X0r
584
asked Mar 12 '16 at 18:33
X0r
584
584
1
This has been an ongoing thing. They want me to develop this stuff to make the company more efficient, but when the subject of a raise comes up, my manager basically says my pay is in line with a draft tech, and that my work is project based. Which makes no sense to me at all, because probably only 5% of all my work deals with what I was promoted for initially. This has been frustrating, to say the least. In our plant, I'm the only one capable of doing this work. My boss actually asked me to teach him how to do what I do, which seems pretty brazen.
– X0r
Mar 12 '16 at 18:47
1
Are you working fulltime and doing a degree outside of work? Do you have a degree otherwise? It might be that your company will not allow people without a 4-year degree to have certain positions.
– Elysian Fields♦
Mar 12 '16 at 20:32
Interesting Question .+1 .You have been given a bigger job and because you can do it you should in the fullness of time get payed accordingly .If your present company does not value this then another company might .In my neck of the woods it is more common to give people lesser jobs which I think it much worse.
– Autistic
Mar 13 '16 at 0:29
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This has been an ongoing thing. They want me to develop this stuff to make the company more efficient, but when the subject of a raise comes up, my manager basically says my pay is in line with a draft tech, and that my work is project based. Which makes no sense to me at all, because probably only 5% of all my work deals with what I was promoted for initially. This has been frustrating, to say the least. In our plant, I'm the only one capable of doing this work. My boss actually asked me to teach him how to do what I do, which seems pretty brazen.
– X0r
Mar 12 '16 at 18:47
1
Are you working fulltime and doing a degree outside of work? Do you have a degree otherwise? It might be that your company will not allow people without a 4-year degree to have certain positions.
– Elysian Fields♦
Mar 12 '16 at 20:32
Interesting Question .+1 .You have been given a bigger job and because you can do it you should in the fullness of time get payed accordingly .If your present company does not value this then another company might .In my neck of the woods it is more common to give people lesser jobs which I think it much worse.
– Autistic
Mar 13 '16 at 0:29
1
1
This has been an ongoing thing. They want me to develop this stuff to make the company more efficient, but when the subject of a raise comes up, my manager basically says my pay is in line with a draft tech, and that my work is project based. Which makes no sense to me at all, because probably only 5% of all my work deals with what I was promoted for initially. This has been frustrating, to say the least. In our plant, I'm the only one capable of doing this work. My boss actually asked me to teach him how to do what I do, which seems pretty brazen.
– X0r
Mar 12 '16 at 18:47
This has been an ongoing thing. They want me to develop this stuff to make the company more efficient, but when the subject of a raise comes up, my manager basically says my pay is in line with a draft tech, and that my work is project based. Which makes no sense to me at all, because probably only 5% of all my work deals with what I was promoted for initially. This has been frustrating, to say the least. In our plant, I'm the only one capable of doing this work. My boss actually asked me to teach him how to do what I do, which seems pretty brazen.
– X0r
Mar 12 '16 at 18:47
1
1
Are you working fulltime and doing a degree outside of work? Do you have a degree otherwise? It might be that your company will not allow people without a 4-year degree to have certain positions.
– Elysian Fields♦
Mar 12 '16 at 20:32
Are you working fulltime and doing a degree outside of work? Do you have a degree otherwise? It might be that your company will not allow people without a 4-year degree to have certain positions.
– Elysian Fields♦
Mar 12 '16 at 20:32
Interesting Question .+1 .You have been given a bigger job and because you can do it you should in the fullness of time get payed accordingly .If your present company does not value this then another company might .In my neck of the woods it is more common to give people lesser jobs which I think it much worse.
– Autistic
Mar 13 '16 at 0:29
Interesting Question .+1 .You have been given a bigger job and because you can do it you should in the fullness of time get payed accordingly .If your present company does not value this then another company might .In my neck of the woods it is more common to give people lesser jobs which I think it much worse.
– Autistic
Mar 13 '16 at 0:29
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I would request that your manager write out a job description for the position they are really looking for, not "Draft Technician". Alternatively, you fill out a job description and present it to your manager. Then look at that job description and find the entry salary for that job description. Then explain that the job that you were once hired on as has changed and you seem like the role you are in does not fit the original job description.
Provide backup evidence to state your claim. Average salary data for job description, some hats you had to put on for this "new" role, and how you are helping the company. If you are not out of college, don't ask for too much. I've seen companies let interns go for asking for an average paying salary--and doesn't look good. If your manager declines the change, it may be time to job hunt while you finish out your position there.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
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+1 for doing the legwork for your manager. There is every chance your manager wants to do right by you, but just doesn't have the time to figure it all out to take it to HR. Help them out with the task and see what they can/will do for you before making any decisions.
– Wesley Long
Mar 13 '16 at 16:48
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Have you tried simply asking your manager? Titles are trivial to change, if it isn't a promotion... And it sounds like you should also be asking "what do you need to see from me to justify a promotion or raise next cycle?"
answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
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Job title means whatever the company wants it to mean at the moment. Its importance is mainly internal or when you leave and describe your job in interviews.
The salient point in your question is that you feel you should get more money. If so, ask for a raise. If your manager is aware of your contributions then it shouldn't be difficult to get one. If of course they think your contributions are as important as you do. From reading the question it appears that you're learning a bunch of stuff and applying it.
So be careful, you can easily be replaced by an expert in those technologies. I wouldn't up your pay until you had proven yourself more, but that's just me, you may well do better with your manager, and it doesn't hurt to ask.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:45
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I would request that your manager write out a job description for the position they are really looking for, not "Draft Technician". Alternatively, you fill out a job description and present it to your manager. Then look at that job description and find the entry salary for that job description. Then explain that the job that you were once hired on as has changed and you seem like the role you are in does not fit the original job description.
Provide backup evidence to state your claim. Average salary data for job description, some hats you had to put on for this "new" role, and how you are helping the company. If you are not out of college, don't ask for too much. I've seen companies let interns go for asking for an average paying salary--and doesn't look good. If your manager declines the change, it may be time to job hunt while you finish out your position there.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
662711
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+1 for doing the legwork for your manager. There is every chance your manager wants to do right by you, but just doesn't have the time to figure it all out to take it to HR. Help them out with the task and see what they can/will do for you before making any decisions.
– Wesley Long
Mar 13 '16 at 16:48
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
I would request that your manager write out a job description for the position they are really looking for, not "Draft Technician". Alternatively, you fill out a job description and present it to your manager. Then look at that job description and find the entry salary for that job description. Then explain that the job that you were once hired on as has changed and you seem like the role you are in does not fit the original job description.
Provide backup evidence to state your claim. Average salary data for job description, some hats you had to put on for this "new" role, and how you are helping the company. If you are not out of college, don't ask for too much. I've seen companies let interns go for asking for an average paying salary--and doesn't look good. If your manager declines the change, it may be time to job hunt while you finish out your position there.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
662711
2
+1 for doing the legwork for your manager. There is every chance your manager wants to do right by you, but just doesn't have the time to figure it all out to take it to HR. Help them out with the task and see what they can/will do for you before making any decisions.
– Wesley Long
Mar 13 '16 at 16:48
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
up vote
6
down vote
accepted
I would request that your manager write out a job description for the position they are really looking for, not "Draft Technician". Alternatively, you fill out a job description and present it to your manager. Then look at that job description and find the entry salary for that job description. Then explain that the job that you were once hired on as has changed and you seem like the role you are in does not fit the original job description.
Provide backup evidence to state your claim. Average salary data for job description, some hats you had to put on for this "new" role, and how you are helping the company. If you are not out of college, don't ask for too much. I've seen companies let interns go for asking for an average paying salary--and doesn't look good. If your manager declines the change, it may be time to job hunt while you finish out your position there.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
662711
I would request that your manager write out a job description for the position they are really looking for, not "Draft Technician". Alternatively, you fill out a job description and present it to your manager. Then look at that job description and find the entry salary for that job description. Then explain that the job that you were once hired on as has changed and you seem like the role you are in does not fit the original job description.
Provide backup evidence to state your claim. Average salary data for job description, some hats you had to put on for this "new" role, and how you are helping the company. If you are not out of college, don't ask for too much. I've seen companies let interns go for asking for an average paying salary--and doesn't look good. If your manager declines the change, it may be time to job hunt while you finish out your position there.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
662711
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
662711
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
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answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:32
Mike
662711
662711
2
+1 for doing the legwork for your manager. There is every chance your manager wants to do right by you, but just doesn't have the time to figure it all out to take it to HR. Help them out with the task and see what they can/will do for you before making any decisions.
– Wesley Long
Mar 13 '16 at 16:48
suggest improvements |Â
2
+1 for doing the legwork for your manager. There is every chance your manager wants to do right by you, but just doesn't have the time to figure it all out to take it to HR. Help them out with the task and see what they can/will do for you before making any decisions.
– Wesley Long
Mar 13 '16 at 16:48
2
2
+1 for doing the legwork for your manager. There is every chance your manager wants to do right by you, but just doesn't have the time to figure it all out to take it to HR. Help them out with the task and see what they can/will do for you before making any decisions.
– Wesley Long
Mar 13 '16 at 16:48
+1 for doing the legwork for your manager. There is every chance your manager wants to do right by you, but just doesn't have the time to figure it all out to take it to HR. Help them out with the task and see what they can/will do for you before making any decisions.
– Wesley Long
Mar 13 '16 at 16:48
suggest improvements |Â
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0
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Have you tried simply asking your manager? Titles are trivial to change, if it isn't a promotion... And it sounds like you should also be asking "what do you need to see from me to justify a promotion or raise next cycle?"
answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
41.5k1267144
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Have you tried simply asking your manager? Titles are trivial to change, if it isn't a promotion... And it sounds like you should also be asking "what do you need to see from me to justify a promotion or raise next cycle?"
answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
41.5k1267144
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Have you tried simply asking your manager? Titles are trivial to change, if it isn't a promotion... And it sounds like you should also be asking "what do you need to see from me to justify a promotion or raise next cycle?"
answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
41.5k1267144
Have you tried simply asking your manager? Titles are trivial to change, if it isn't a promotion... And it sounds like you should also be asking "what do you need to see from me to justify a promotion or raise next cycle?"
answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
41.5k1267144
answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
41.5k1267144
answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
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answered Mar 12 '16 at 18:42
keshlam
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41.5k1267144
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suggest improvements |Â
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Job title means whatever the company wants it to mean at the moment. Its importance is mainly internal or when you leave and describe your job in interviews.
The salient point in your question is that you feel you should get more money. If so, ask for a raise. If your manager is aware of your contributions then it shouldn't be difficult to get one. If of course they think your contributions are as important as you do. From reading the question it appears that you're learning a bunch of stuff and applying it.
So be careful, you can easily be replaced by an expert in those technologies. I wouldn't up your pay until you had proven yourself more, but that's just me, you may well do better with your manager, and it doesn't hurt to ask.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:45
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
Job title means whatever the company wants it to mean at the moment. Its importance is mainly internal or when you leave and describe your job in interviews.
The salient point in your question is that you feel you should get more money. If so, ask for a raise. If your manager is aware of your contributions then it shouldn't be difficult to get one. If of course they think your contributions are as important as you do. From reading the question it appears that you're learning a bunch of stuff and applying it.
So be careful, you can easily be replaced by an expert in those technologies. I wouldn't up your pay until you had proven yourself more, but that's just me, you may well do better with your manager, and it doesn't hurt to ask.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:45
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Job title means whatever the company wants it to mean at the moment. Its importance is mainly internal or when you leave and describe your job in interviews.
The salient point in your question is that you feel you should get more money. If so, ask for a raise. If your manager is aware of your contributions then it shouldn't be difficult to get one. If of course they think your contributions are as important as you do. From reading the question it appears that you're learning a bunch of stuff and applying it.
So be careful, you can easily be replaced by an expert in those technologies. I wouldn't up your pay until you had proven yourself more, but that's just me, you may well do better with your manager, and it doesn't hurt to ask.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:45
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
Job title means whatever the company wants it to mean at the moment. Its importance is mainly internal or when you leave and describe your job in interviews.
The salient point in your question is that you feel you should get more money. If so, ask for a raise. If your manager is aware of your contributions then it shouldn't be difficult to get one. If of course they think your contributions are as important as you do. From reading the question it appears that you're learning a bunch of stuff and applying it.
So be careful, you can easily be replaced by an expert in those technologies. I wouldn't up your pay until you had proven yourself more, but that's just me, you may well do better with your manager, and it doesn't hurt to ask.
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:45
Kilisi
94.6k50216376
answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:45
Kilisi
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answered Mar 12 '16 at 19:45
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This has been an ongoing thing. They want me to develop this stuff to make the company more efficient, but when the subject of a raise comes up, my manager basically says my pay is in line with a draft tech, and that my work is project based. Which makes no sense to me at all, because probably only 5% of all my work deals with what I was promoted for initially. This has been frustrating, to say the least. In our plant, I'm the only one capable of doing this work. My boss actually asked me to teach him how to do what I do, which seems pretty brazen.
– X0r
Mar 12 '16 at 18:47
1
Are you working fulltime and doing a degree outside of work? Do you have a degree otherwise? It might be that your company will not allow people without a 4-year degree to have certain positions.
– Elysian Fields♦
Mar 12 '16 at 20:32
Interesting Question .+1 .You have been given a bigger job and because you can do it you should in the fullness of time get payed accordingly .If your present company does not value this then another company might .In my neck of the woods it is more common to give people lesser jobs which I think it much worse.
– Autistic
Mar 13 '16 at 0:29