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I have 2 job offers on the table (software engineer positions). I intend to accept one of them, but they have already proposed a start date exactly 2 weeks out. I would have just enough time to accept today, give my 2 weeks notice tomorrow, and then my last day at current job would 2 weeks from tomorrow (a Friday), and I'd start new job the following Monday.
This is my 2nd job out of school and while I've had extended weekends or christmas holiday vacations (packed with events) I have never had downtime like that. I mainly want the time to relax, have some friends down from out of state, look for a new car, decorate my apartment, etc.
I told my recruiter (independent, doesn't work for the company I'm joining) this, and he said it would look bad & show disinterest, like saying "Yes, I am excited to work for you guys... but not excited enough to start right away." He also said that because they upped my salary offer without me asking or negotiating, when they learned I had another offer, they are already jumping through hoops to get me on and I do not want to show disinterest.
My boyfriend disagrees and thinks it's entirely reasonable, and also that I shouldn't give my notice at current job until the background checks and everything else comes back and it's more official. His point being HR at new job could mess things up, my records could get confused with someone else's, etc. Another point I mentioned to the recruiter, and he said "Why, do you have some felony or something we don't know about?" Of course I don't, and I am not actually worried about there being a problem there.
I don't want my new job to think I may have a bad background I am trying to hide, or equally bad, that I am not every bit as excited as they are. But, my extra week is not about taking some pre-booked vacation or anything extraordinary that I could cite - I just want some time off.
Is my recruiter right? Is it inappropriate to ask for the extra week? If he is wrong, are both factors (waiting to give notice + just wanting downtime) both important, or should I only cite one of them? And how should I frame my response to the recruiter (who will deliver the message for me indirectly)?
(Note: I could find 2 sort of similar questions here on Workplace, but neither were the exact situation - one was for delaying a month, and the other was to give more than 2 weeks notice at current job)
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I have 2 job offers on the table (software engineer positions). I intend to accept one of them, but they have already proposed a start date exactly 2 weeks out. I would have just enough time to accept today, give my 2 weeks notice tomorrow, and then my last day at current job would 2 weeks from tomorrow (a Friday), and I'd start new job the following Monday.
This is my 2nd job out of school and while I've had extended weekends or christmas holiday vacations (packed with events) I have never had downtime like that. I mainly want the time to relax, have some friends down from out of state, look for a new car, decorate my apartment, etc.
I told my recruiter (independent, doesn't work for the company I'm joining) this, and he said it would look bad & show disinterest, like saying "Yes, I am excited to work for you guys... but not excited enough to start right away." He also said that because they upped my salary offer without me asking or negotiating, when they learned I had another offer, they are already jumping through hoops to get me on and I do not want to show disinterest.
My boyfriend disagrees and thinks it's entirely reasonable, and also that I shouldn't give my notice at current job until the background checks and everything else comes back and it's more official. His point being HR at new job could mess things up, my records could get confused with someone else's, etc. Another point I mentioned to the recruiter, and he said "Why, do you have some felony or something we don't know about?" Of course I don't, and I am not actually worried about there being a problem there.
I don't want my new job to think I may have a bad background I am trying to hide, or equally bad, that I am not every bit as excited as they are. But, my extra week is not about taking some pre-booked vacation or anything extraordinary that I could cite - I just want some time off.
Is my recruiter right? Is it inappropriate to ask for the extra week? If he is wrong, are both factors (waiting to give notice + just wanting downtime) both important, or should I only cite one of them? And how should I frame my response to the recruiter (who will deliver the message for me indirectly)?
(Note: I could find 2 sort of similar questions here on Workplace, but neither were the exact situation - one was for delaying a month, and the other was to give more than 2 weeks notice at current job)
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Your recruiter makes a good point. However, you could ask for an extra week to make your decision. Since, as you say, you'd only have time to think on it today, and hand in your notice tomorrow. It's still a little risky though, as they might suspect you having another offer and just cut you off. If you really impressed them, I doubt that'll happen though.
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:55
I don't know that asking for an extra week is feasible. The offer came on Monday, they originally wanted 48 hours, the recruiter delayed for me until Friday, but then when the updated offer came in he said he thought I should give my answer today (Thursday).
– EF0
Mar 5 '15 at 15:57
Ah, I see! That changes it a little. I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice from experience then. I can only speculate, but I think it will most likely reflect badly to ask for a week before starting, unless you can come up with some valid, personal reasons (e.g. relocation).
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:59
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From personal experience, that sort of pushiness in recruiters is sort of a default mode which is annoying and has very little relation to reality. I had a recruiter push me to go to interviews on a day that wasn't suitable just in case the company couldn't make it another day. But when I said I couldn't make it to the actual company, they just rescheduled like normal people. The company will not suffer because you start 1 or 2 weeks later refreshed and eager. Your recruiter sounds like a douche who is artificially creating urgency for his own gain, I would say ignore him.
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Mar 5 '15 at 19:36
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I have 2 job offers on the table (software engineer positions). I intend to accept one of them, but they have already proposed a start date exactly 2 weeks out. I would have just enough time to accept today, give my 2 weeks notice tomorrow, and then my last day at current job would 2 weeks from tomorrow (a Friday), and I'd start new job the following Monday.
This is my 2nd job out of school and while I've had extended weekends or christmas holiday vacations (packed with events) I have never had downtime like that. I mainly want the time to relax, have some friends down from out of state, look for a new car, decorate my apartment, etc.
I told my recruiter (independent, doesn't work for the company I'm joining) this, and he said it would look bad & show disinterest, like saying "Yes, I am excited to work for you guys... but not excited enough to start right away." He also said that because they upped my salary offer without me asking or negotiating, when they learned I had another offer, they are already jumping through hoops to get me on and I do not want to show disinterest.
My boyfriend disagrees and thinks it's entirely reasonable, and also that I shouldn't give my notice at current job until the background checks and everything else comes back and it's more official. His point being HR at new job could mess things up, my records could get confused with someone else's, etc. Another point I mentioned to the recruiter, and he said "Why, do you have some felony or something we don't know about?" Of course I don't, and I am not actually worried about there being a problem there.
I don't want my new job to think I may have a bad background I am trying to hide, or equally bad, that I am not every bit as excited as they are. But, my extra week is not about taking some pre-booked vacation or anything extraordinary that I could cite - I just want some time off.
Is my recruiter right? Is it inappropriate to ask for the extra week? If he is wrong, are both factors (waiting to give notice + just wanting downtime) both important, or should I only cite one of them? And how should I frame my response to the recruiter (who will deliver the message for me indirectly)?
(Note: I could find 2 sort of similar questions here on Workplace, but neither were the exact situation - one was for delaying a month, and the other was to give more than 2 weeks notice at current job)
job-offer negotiation start-date
asked Mar 5 '15 at 15:52
EF0
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I have 2 job offers on the table (software engineer positions). I intend to accept one of them, but they have already proposed a start date exactly 2 weeks out. I would have just enough time to accept today, give my 2 weeks notice tomorrow, and then my last day at current job would 2 weeks from tomorrow (a Friday), and I'd start new job the following Monday.
This is my 2nd job out of school and while I've had extended weekends or christmas holiday vacations (packed with events) I have never had downtime like that. I mainly want the time to relax, have some friends down from out of state, look for a new car, decorate my apartment, etc.
I told my recruiter (independent, doesn't work for the company I'm joining) this, and he said it would look bad & show disinterest, like saying "Yes, I am excited to work for you guys... but not excited enough to start right away." He also said that because they upped my salary offer without me asking or negotiating, when they learned I had another offer, they are already jumping through hoops to get me on and I do not want to show disinterest.
My boyfriend disagrees and thinks it's entirely reasonable, and also that I shouldn't give my notice at current job until the background checks and everything else comes back and it's more official. His point being HR at new job could mess things up, my records could get confused with someone else's, etc. Another point I mentioned to the recruiter, and he said "Why, do you have some felony or something we don't know about?" Of course I don't, and I am not actually worried about there being a problem there.
I don't want my new job to think I may have a bad background I am trying to hide, or equally bad, that I am not every bit as excited as they are. But, my extra week is not about taking some pre-booked vacation or anything extraordinary that I could cite - I just want some time off.
Is my recruiter right? Is it inappropriate to ask for the extra week? If he is wrong, are both factors (waiting to give notice + just wanting downtime) both important, or should I only cite one of them? And how should I frame my response to the recruiter (who will deliver the message for me indirectly)?
(Note: I could find 2 sort of similar questions here on Workplace, but neither were the exact situation - one was for delaying a month, and the other was to give more than 2 weeks notice at current job)
job-offer negotiation start-date
asked Mar 5 '15 at 15:52
EF0
11116
asked Mar 5 '15 at 15:52
EF0
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asked Mar 5 '15 at 15:52
EF0
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asked Mar 5 '15 at 15:52
EF0
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Your recruiter makes a good point. However, you could ask for an extra week to make your decision. Since, as you say, you'd only have time to think on it today, and hand in your notice tomorrow. It's still a little risky though, as they might suspect you having another offer and just cut you off. If you really impressed them, I doubt that'll happen though.
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:55
I don't know that asking for an extra week is feasible. The offer came on Monday, they originally wanted 48 hours, the recruiter delayed for me until Friday, but then when the updated offer came in he said he thought I should give my answer today (Thursday).
– EF0
Mar 5 '15 at 15:57
Ah, I see! That changes it a little. I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice from experience then. I can only speculate, but I think it will most likely reflect badly to ask for a week before starting, unless you can come up with some valid, personal reasons (e.g. relocation).
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:59
1
From personal experience, that sort of pushiness in recruiters is sort of a default mode which is annoying and has very little relation to reality. I had a recruiter push me to go to interviews on a day that wasn't suitable just in case the company couldn't make it another day. But when I said I couldn't make it to the actual company, they just rescheduled like normal people. The company will not suffer because you start 1 or 2 weeks later refreshed and eager. Your recruiter sounds like a douche who is artificially creating urgency for his own gain, I would say ignore him.
– grasshopper
Mar 5 '15 at 19:36
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Your recruiter makes a good point. However, you could ask for an extra week to make your decision. Since, as you say, you'd only have time to think on it today, and hand in your notice tomorrow. It's still a little risky though, as they might suspect you having another offer and just cut you off. If you really impressed them, I doubt that'll happen though.
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:55
I don't know that asking for an extra week is feasible. The offer came on Monday, they originally wanted 48 hours, the recruiter delayed for me until Friday, but then when the updated offer came in he said he thought I should give my answer today (Thursday).
– EF0
Mar 5 '15 at 15:57
Ah, I see! That changes it a little. I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice from experience then. I can only speculate, but I think it will most likely reflect badly to ask for a week before starting, unless you can come up with some valid, personal reasons (e.g. relocation).
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:59
1
From personal experience, that sort of pushiness in recruiters is sort of a default mode which is annoying and has very little relation to reality. I had a recruiter push me to go to interviews on a day that wasn't suitable just in case the company couldn't make it another day. But when I said I couldn't make it to the actual company, they just rescheduled like normal people. The company will not suffer because you start 1 or 2 weeks later refreshed and eager. Your recruiter sounds like a douche who is artificially creating urgency for his own gain, I would say ignore him.
– grasshopper
Mar 5 '15 at 19:36
Your recruiter makes a good point. However, you could ask for an extra week to make your decision. Since, as you say, you'd only have time to think on it today, and hand in your notice tomorrow. It's still a little risky though, as they might suspect you having another offer and just cut you off. If you really impressed them, I doubt that'll happen though.
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:55
Your recruiter makes a good point. However, you could ask for an extra week to make your decision. Since, as you say, you'd only have time to think on it today, and hand in your notice tomorrow. It's still a little risky though, as they might suspect you having another offer and just cut you off. If you really impressed them, I doubt that'll happen though.
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:55
I don't know that asking for an extra week is feasible. The offer came on Monday, they originally wanted 48 hours, the recruiter delayed for me until Friday, but then when the updated offer came in he said he thought I should give my answer today (Thursday).
– EF0
Mar 5 '15 at 15:57
I don't know that asking for an extra week is feasible. The offer came on Monday, they originally wanted 48 hours, the recruiter delayed for me until Friday, but then when the updated offer came in he said he thought I should give my answer today (Thursday).
– EF0
Mar 5 '15 at 15:57
Ah, I see! That changes it a little. I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice from experience then. I can only speculate, but I think it will most likely reflect badly to ask for a week before starting, unless you can come up with some valid, personal reasons (e.g. relocation).
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:59
Ah, I see! That changes it a little. I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice from experience then. I can only speculate, but I think it will most likely reflect badly to ask for a week before starting, unless you can come up with some valid, personal reasons (e.g. relocation).
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:59
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From personal experience, that sort of pushiness in recruiters is sort of a default mode which is annoying and has very little relation to reality. I had a recruiter push me to go to interviews on a day that wasn't suitable just in case the company couldn't make it another day. But when I said I couldn't make it to the actual company, they just rescheduled like normal people. The company will not suffer because you start 1 or 2 weeks later refreshed and eager. Your recruiter sounds like a douche who is artificially creating urgency for his own gain, I would say ignore him.
– grasshopper
Mar 5 '15 at 19:36
From personal experience, that sort of pushiness in recruiters is sort of a default mode which is annoying and has very little relation to reality. I had a recruiter push me to go to interviews on a day that wasn't suitable just in case the company couldn't make it another day. But when I said I couldn't make it to the actual company, they just rescheduled like normal people. The company will not suffer because you start 1 or 2 weeks later refreshed and eager. Your recruiter sounds like a douche who is artificially creating urgency for his own gain, I would say ignore him.
– grasshopper
Mar 5 '15 at 19:36
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My experience in the software industry is that companies almost always want you to start right away and they almost never actually need you to. I've given myself short gaps between jobs every single time and it's never been a problem. On the hiring side, I've never noticed a problem if a candidate needs an extra week or two. Unless the recruiter has specific knowledge of this company or position, I would assume that that's just general recruiter urgency -- he doesn't get paid until you're in the new position so naturally he wants to expedite.
Further, in your case the offer isn't even solid yet; it's contingent on the background check. The background check is low-risk, but you never know what might cause a problem -- maybe that late cable bill last year dinged your credit score and they care about that? You never know, so it is prudent to not give notice until you have the commitment in hand.
The way you communicate this is to raise the following points:
You are eager to start with the new company. That's why you chose them when you had other offers. Be positive about the job.
However, you can't give notice until you have a solid offer. Then you have an obligation to your current company to effect an orderly transition. Even if some people would just walk out, your sense of professionalism doesn't allow that. (The company hiring you would want you to treat them the same way, after all.)
Finally, in order to start fresh at the new position, you need a bit of time between jobs. You would rather take that before starting (and not on their dime) so you can dive right in, especially as it will (presumably) be a while before you'd be able to take a week of vacation.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
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I will strongly agree with your final point. Often people aren't good about using up their PTO and doing so during notice is typically a bridge burned. Plus not being able to take a vacation for like 90 days can leave you with zero detox time for months. It's just a good idea to take a week or two detox from the old job, get your head together, and come into the new job fresh.
– RualStorge
Mar 5 '15 at 17:09
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to add to the response. It's totally okay to ask about it. Explain you need a mental break and you want to go into the new job fresh. What's the worse it could happen? They don't agree with this?
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:27
as far as PTO goes, if you don't take the time you get the money - so that should not be an issue
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:28
@Mircea if you don't take the time you get the money (modulo any company limits on that), but you can't necessarily use that money to buy PTO at the new place, so the result is that you lose the downtime. Joe, yes if it's really important that you start at a particular time that'll become clear; I was speaking generally. It doesn't hurt to ask.
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 5 '15 at 19:12
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My experience in the software industry is that companies almost always want you to start right away and they almost never actually need you to. I've given myself short gaps between jobs every single time and it's never been a problem. On the hiring side, I've never noticed a problem if a candidate needs an extra week or two. Unless the recruiter has specific knowledge of this company or position, I would assume that that's just general recruiter urgency -- he doesn't get paid until you're in the new position so naturally he wants to expedite.
Further, in your case the offer isn't even solid yet; it's contingent on the background check. The background check is low-risk, but you never know what might cause a problem -- maybe that late cable bill last year dinged your credit score and they care about that? You never know, so it is prudent to not give notice until you have the commitment in hand.
The way you communicate this is to raise the following points:
You are eager to start with the new company. That's why you chose them when you had other offers. Be positive about the job.
However, you can't give notice until you have a solid offer. Then you have an obligation to your current company to effect an orderly transition. Even if some people would just walk out, your sense of professionalism doesn't allow that. (The company hiring you would want you to treat them the same way, after all.)
Finally, in order to start fresh at the new position, you need a bit of time between jobs. You would rather take that before starting (and not on their dime) so you can dive right in, especially as it will (presumably) be a while before you'd be able to take a week of vacation.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
Monica Cellio♦
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I will strongly agree with your final point. Often people aren't good about using up their PTO and doing so during notice is typically a bridge burned. Plus not being able to take a vacation for like 90 days can leave you with zero detox time for months. It's just a good idea to take a week or two detox from the old job, get your head together, and come into the new job fresh.
– RualStorge
Mar 5 '15 at 17:09
2
to add to the response. It's totally okay to ask about it. Explain you need a mental break and you want to go into the new job fresh. What's the worse it could happen? They don't agree with this?
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:27
as far as PTO goes, if you don't take the time you get the money - so that should not be an issue
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:28
@Mircea if you don't take the time you get the money (modulo any company limits on that), but you can't necessarily use that money to buy PTO at the new place, so the result is that you lose the downtime. Joe, yes if it's really important that you start at a particular time that'll become clear; I was speaking generally. It doesn't hurt to ask.
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 5 '15 at 19:12
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up vote
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accepted
My experience in the software industry is that companies almost always want you to start right away and they almost never actually need you to. I've given myself short gaps between jobs every single time and it's never been a problem. On the hiring side, I've never noticed a problem if a candidate needs an extra week or two. Unless the recruiter has specific knowledge of this company or position, I would assume that that's just general recruiter urgency -- he doesn't get paid until you're in the new position so naturally he wants to expedite.
Further, in your case the offer isn't even solid yet; it's contingent on the background check. The background check is low-risk, but you never know what might cause a problem -- maybe that late cable bill last year dinged your credit score and they care about that? You never know, so it is prudent to not give notice until you have the commitment in hand.
The way you communicate this is to raise the following points:
You are eager to start with the new company. That's why you chose them when you had other offers. Be positive about the job.
However, you can't give notice until you have a solid offer. Then you have an obligation to your current company to effect an orderly transition. Even if some people would just walk out, your sense of professionalism doesn't allow that. (The company hiring you would want you to treat them the same way, after all.)
Finally, in order to start fresh at the new position, you need a bit of time between jobs. You would rather take that before starting (and not on their dime) so you can dive right in, especially as it will (presumably) be a while before you'd be able to take a week of vacation.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
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I will strongly agree with your final point. Often people aren't good about using up their PTO and doing so during notice is typically a bridge burned. Plus not being able to take a vacation for like 90 days can leave you with zero detox time for months. It's just a good idea to take a week or two detox from the old job, get your head together, and come into the new job fresh.
– RualStorge
Mar 5 '15 at 17:09
2
to add to the response. It's totally okay to ask about it. Explain you need a mental break and you want to go into the new job fresh. What's the worse it could happen? They don't agree with this?
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:27
as far as PTO goes, if you don't take the time you get the money - so that should not be an issue
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:28
@Mircea if you don't take the time you get the money (modulo any company limits on that), but you can't necessarily use that money to buy PTO at the new place, so the result is that you lose the downtime. Joe, yes if it's really important that you start at a particular time that'll become clear; I was speaking generally. It doesn't hurt to ask.
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 5 '15 at 19:12
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up vote
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up vote
15
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accepted
My experience in the software industry is that companies almost always want you to start right away and they almost never actually need you to. I've given myself short gaps between jobs every single time and it's never been a problem. On the hiring side, I've never noticed a problem if a candidate needs an extra week or two. Unless the recruiter has specific knowledge of this company or position, I would assume that that's just general recruiter urgency -- he doesn't get paid until you're in the new position so naturally he wants to expedite.
Further, in your case the offer isn't even solid yet; it's contingent on the background check. The background check is low-risk, but you never know what might cause a problem -- maybe that late cable bill last year dinged your credit score and they care about that? You never know, so it is prudent to not give notice until you have the commitment in hand.
The way you communicate this is to raise the following points:
You are eager to start with the new company. That's why you chose them when you had other offers. Be positive about the job.
However, you can't give notice until you have a solid offer. Then you have an obligation to your current company to effect an orderly transition. Even if some people would just walk out, your sense of professionalism doesn't allow that. (The company hiring you would want you to treat them the same way, after all.)
Finally, in order to start fresh at the new position, you need a bit of time between jobs. You would rather take that before starting (and not on their dime) so you can dive right in, especially as it will (presumably) be a while before you'd be able to take a week of vacation.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
My experience in the software industry is that companies almost always want you to start right away and they almost never actually need you to. I've given myself short gaps between jobs every single time and it's never been a problem. On the hiring side, I've never noticed a problem if a candidate needs an extra week or two. Unless the recruiter has specific knowledge of this company or position, I would assume that that's just general recruiter urgency -- he doesn't get paid until you're in the new position so naturally he wants to expedite.
Further, in your case the offer isn't even solid yet; it's contingent on the background check. The background check is low-risk, but you never know what might cause a problem -- maybe that late cable bill last year dinged your credit score and they care about that? You never know, so it is prudent to not give notice until you have the commitment in hand.
The way you communicate this is to raise the following points:
You are eager to start with the new company. That's why you chose them when you had other offers. Be positive about the job.
However, you can't give notice until you have a solid offer. Then you have an obligation to your current company to effect an orderly transition. Even if some people would just walk out, your sense of professionalism doesn't allow that. (The company hiring you would want you to treat them the same way, after all.)
Finally, in order to start fresh at the new position, you need a bit of time between jobs. You would rather take that before starting (and not on their dime) so you can dive right in, especially as it will (presumably) be a while before you'd be able to take a week of vacation.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
answered Mar 5 '15 at 16:11
Monica Cellio♦
43.7k17114191
43.7k17114191
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I will strongly agree with your final point. Often people aren't good about using up their PTO and doing so during notice is typically a bridge burned. Plus not being able to take a vacation for like 90 days can leave you with zero detox time for months. It's just a good idea to take a week or two detox from the old job, get your head together, and come into the new job fresh.
– RualStorge
Mar 5 '15 at 17:09
2
to add to the response. It's totally okay to ask about it. Explain you need a mental break and you want to go into the new job fresh. What's the worse it could happen? They don't agree with this?
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:27
as far as PTO goes, if you don't take the time you get the money - so that should not be an issue
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:28
@Mircea if you don't take the time you get the money (modulo any company limits on that), but you can't necessarily use that money to buy PTO at the new place, so the result is that you lose the downtime. Joe, yes if it's really important that you start at a particular time that'll become clear; I was speaking generally. It doesn't hurt to ask.
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 5 '15 at 19:12
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I will strongly agree with your final point. Often people aren't good about using up their PTO and doing so during notice is typically a bridge burned. Plus not being able to take a vacation for like 90 days can leave you with zero detox time for months. It's just a good idea to take a week or two detox from the old job, get your head together, and come into the new job fresh.
– RualStorge
Mar 5 '15 at 17:09
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to add to the response. It's totally okay to ask about it. Explain you need a mental break and you want to go into the new job fresh. What's the worse it could happen? They don't agree with this?
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:27
as far as PTO goes, if you don't take the time you get the money - so that should not be an issue
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:28
@Mircea if you don't take the time you get the money (modulo any company limits on that), but you can't necessarily use that money to buy PTO at the new place, so the result is that you lose the downtime. Joe, yes if it's really important that you start at a particular time that'll become clear; I was speaking generally. It doesn't hurt to ask.
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 5 '15 at 19:12
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I will strongly agree with your final point. Often people aren't good about using up their PTO and doing so during notice is typically a bridge burned. Plus not being able to take a vacation for like 90 days can leave you with zero detox time for months. It's just a good idea to take a week or two detox from the old job, get your head together, and come into the new job fresh.
– RualStorge
Mar 5 '15 at 17:09
I will strongly agree with your final point. Often people aren't good about using up their PTO and doing so during notice is typically a bridge burned. Plus not being able to take a vacation for like 90 days can leave you with zero detox time for months. It's just a good idea to take a week or two detox from the old job, get your head together, and come into the new job fresh.
– RualStorge
Mar 5 '15 at 17:09
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to add to the response. It's totally okay to ask about it. Explain you need a mental break and you want to go into the new job fresh. What's the worse it could happen? They don't agree with this?
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:27
to add to the response. It's totally okay to ask about it. Explain you need a mental break and you want to go into the new job fresh. What's the worse it could happen? They don't agree with this?
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:27
as far as PTO goes, if you don't take the time you get the money - so that should not be an issue
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:28
as far as PTO goes, if you don't take the time you get the money - so that should not be an issue
– Mircea
Mar 5 '15 at 18:28
@Mircea if you don't take the time you get the money (modulo any company limits on that), but you can't necessarily use that money to buy PTO at the new place, so the result is that you lose the downtime. Joe, yes if it's really important that you start at a particular time that'll become clear; I was speaking generally. It doesn't hurt to ask.
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 5 '15 at 19:12
@Mircea if you don't take the time you get the money (modulo any company limits on that), but you can't necessarily use that money to buy PTO at the new place, so the result is that you lose the downtime. Joe, yes if it's really important that you start at a particular time that'll become clear; I was speaking generally. It doesn't hurt to ask.
– Monica Cellio♦
Mar 5 '15 at 19:12
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Your recruiter makes a good point. However, you could ask for an extra week to make your decision. Since, as you say, you'd only have time to think on it today, and hand in your notice tomorrow. It's still a little risky though, as they might suspect you having another offer and just cut you off. If you really impressed them, I doubt that'll happen though.
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:55
I don't know that asking for an extra week is feasible. The offer came on Monday, they originally wanted 48 hours, the recruiter delayed for me until Friday, but then when the updated offer came in he said he thought I should give my answer today (Thursday).
– EF0
Mar 5 '15 at 15:57
Ah, I see! That changes it a little. I'm afraid I can't really offer any advice from experience then. I can only speculate, but I think it will most likely reflect badly to ask for a week before starting, unless you can come up with some valid, personal reasons (e.g. relocation).
– Ivo Coumans
Mar 5 '15 at 15:59
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From personal experience, that sort of pushiness in recruiters is sort of a default mode which is annoying and has very little relation to reality. I had a recruiter push me to go to interviews on a day that wasn't suitable just in case the company couldn't make it another day. But when I said I couldn't make it to the actual company, they just rescheduled like normal people. The company will not suffer because you start 1 or 2 weeks later refreshed and eager. Your recruiter sounds like a douche who is artificially creating urgency for his own gain, I would say ignore him.
– grasshopper
Mar 5 '15 at 19:36