Is it usual that âexpenses are not refunded in a case where an appointment is offered and then refusedâ? [closed]
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Suppose a candidate gets invited to a job interview, which requires transatlantic travel booked one week in advance. Is it common for the employer to state that "expenses are not refunded in a case where an appointment is offered and then refused"?
Edit: I am talking about the situation where the interview is carried out as planned. After the interview, the candidate is offered a position, but the candidate ultimately decides not to take the offer.
interviewing reimbursement
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Suppose a candidate gets invited to a job interview, which requires transatlantic travel booked one week in advance. Is it common for the employer to state that "expenses are not refunded in a case where an appointment is offered and then refused"?
Edit: I am talking about the situation where the interview is carried out as planned. After the interview, the candidate is offered a position, but the candidate ultimately decides not to take the offer.
interviewing reimbursement
closed as off-topic by Jim G., Garrison Neely, Chris E, gnat, Michael Grubey Jan 23 '15 at 12:32
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Do you mean they did not show up for the interview or they went through the interview, got the job offer but did not accept the job offer?
â cdkMoose
Jan 21 '15 at 17:22
@cdkMoose The latter â edited for clarification.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:23
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I can imagine a company being burned by "candidates" that apply, get a paid transatlantic flight and hotel, have a good time at the destination, then decline a job offer. After such an experience, a company may instate such a policy.
â Stephan Kolassa
Jan 21 '15 at 17:32
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@Blam prescreening. Phone interviews. Skype interviews. Emails, etc, etc.
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:25
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@Blam I'm not aware of this even being a 'thing'. Is this some widespread scam? People applying for jobs and attending lot of interviews and being a perfect match only to get a free trip to some suburban office? Point being that I believe most normal employee hiring screening processes will make this a rather moot concern. If, for whatever reason, it happens to be a problem for some particular hiring manager, perhaps they should stop doing on-site interviews. :)
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Suppose a candidate gets invited to a job interview, which requires transatlantic travel booked one week in advance. Is it common for the employer to state that "expenses are not refunded in a case where an appointment is offered and then refused"?
Edit: I am talking about the situation where the interview is carried out as planned. After the interview, the candidate is offered a position, but the candidate ultimately decides not to take the offer.
interviewing reimbursement
Suppose a candidate gets invited to a job interview, which requires transatlantic travel booked one week in advance. Is it common for the employer to state that "expenses are not refunded in a case where an appointment is offered and then refused"?
Edit: I am talking about the situation where the interview is carried out as planned. After the interview, the candidate is offered a position, but the candidate ultimately decides not to take the offer.
interviewing reimbursement
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Do you mean they did not show up for the interview or they went through the interview, got the job offer but did not accept the job offer?
â cdkMoose
Jan 21 '15 at 17:22
@cdkMoose The latter â edited for clarification.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:23
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I can imagine a company being burned by "candidates" that apply, get a paid transatlantic flight and hotel, have a good time at the destination, then decline a job offer. After such an experience, a company may instate such a policy.
â Stephan Kolassa
Jan 21 '15 at 17:32
1
@Blam prescreening. Phone interviews. Skype interviews. Emails, etc, etc.
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:25
1
@Blam I'm not aware of this even being a 'thing'. Is this some widespread scam? People applying for jobs and attending lot of interviews and being a perfect match only to get a free trip to some suburban office? Point being that I believe most normal employee hiring screening processes will make this a rather moot concern. If, for whatever reason, it happens to be a problem for some particular hiring manager, perhaps they should stop doing on-site interviews. :)
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Jan 21 '15 at 18:36
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Do you mean they did not show up for the interview or they went through the interview, got the job offer but did not accept the job offer?
â cdkMoose
Jan 21 '15 at 17:22
@cdkMoose The latter â edited for clarification.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:23
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I can imagine a company being burned by "candidates" that apply, get a paid transatlantic flight and hotel, have a good time at the destination, then decline a job offer. After such an experience, a company may instate such a policy.
â Stephan Kolassa
Jan 21 '15 at 17:32
1
@Blam prescreening. Phone interviews. Skype interviews. Emails, etc, etc.
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:25
1
@Blam I'm not aware of this even being a 'thing'. Is this some widespread scam? People applying for jobs and attending lot of interviews and being a perfect match only to get a free trip to some suburban office? Point being that I believe most normal employee hiring screening processes will make this a rather moot concern. If, for whatever reason, it happens to be a problem for some particular hiring manager, perhaps they should stop doing on-site interviews. :)
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:36
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Do you mean they did not show up for the interview or they went through the interview, got the job offer but did not accept the job offer?
â cdkMoose
Jan 21 '15 at 17:22
Do you mean they did not show up for the interview or they went through the interview, got the job offer but did not accept the job offer?
â cdkMoose
Jan 21 '15 at 17:22
@cdkMoose The latter â edited for clarification.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:23
@cdkMoose The latter â edited for clarification.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:23
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I can imagine a company being burned by "candidates" that apply, get a paid transatlantic flight and hotel, have a good time at the destination, then decline a job offer. After such an experience, a company may instate such a policy.
â Stephan Kolassa
Jan 21 '15 at 17:32
I can imagine a company being burned by "candidates" that apply, get a paid transatlantic flight and hotel, have a good time at the destination, then decline a job offer. After such an experience, a company may instate such a policy.
â Stephan Kolassa
Jan 21 '15 at 17:32
1
1
@Blam prescreening. Phone interviews. Skype interviews. Emails, etc, etc.
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:25
@Blam prescreening. Phone interviews. Skype interviews. Emails, etc, etc.
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:25
1
1
@Blam I'm not aware of this even being a 'thing'. Is this some widespread scam? People applying for jobs and attending lot of interviews and being a perfect match only to get a free trip to some suburban office? Point being that I believe most normal employee hiring screening processes will make this a rather moot concern. If, for whatever reason, it happens to be a problem for some particular hiring manager, perhaps they should stop doing on-site interviews. :)
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:36
@Blam I'm not aware of this even being a 'thing'. Is this some widespread scam? People applying for jobs and attending lot of interviews and being a perfect match only to get a free trip to some suburban office? Point being that I believe most normal employee hiring screening processes will make this a rather moot concern. If, for whatever reason, it happens to be a problem for some particular hiring manager, perhaps they should stop doing on-site interviews. :)
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:36
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As I read the question: a prospective employer is saying to a candidate: we are offering to pay for you to make a trip to visit us, but our willingness to pay is contingent on your accepting the job if we offer it. In other words, the possible outcomes are:
- no offer -- reimbursement
- offer rejected -- no reimbursement
- offer accepted -- reimbursement
The prospective employer has every right to present these terms, and the candidate has every right to reject them. In my experience, I've never heard of such a thing, for what that's worth.
If I were the candidate, I'd need a written commitment with a great deal of detail before I'd accept this proposition. The only case in which it makes sense to me is one in which a great deal of communication has already happened at a distance and the in-person interview is a sort of pro-forma ritual. Still, it's pretty unfair for the employer to retain the right to reject the employee and refuse that right, effectively, the other way around. So I'd characterize it as a jerk move.
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Unless it is entirely clear in advance what the terms of employment will be are and they undertake not to alter those terms, add further conditions, etc. then you should be very cautious about incurring significant travel costs: if the employer makes an offer you're unable to accept (pay too low, expectation of out-of-hours work which conflicts with your domestic commitments), then you're stuck with the travel costs.
â user52889
Jan 21 '15 at 18:15
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Indeed, these reimbursement terms could be used as a negotiating tactic to create incentive for the applicant to accept a lower offer than otherwise.
â John Wu
Aug 15 at 20:16
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If the hiring company initially agreed to pay for the travel, then they should stand by their word.
I'm sure they didn't promise the candidate a job before the interview, so why should the candidate have to promise to accept the job(and the company). The interview process is for both sides to be able to evaluate the opportunity and freely decide whether to go further.
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If I was going to pay a candidate to travel for an interview with my company and that candidate decided to decline the interview or otherwise not appear then there would be no way that I would reimburse them for the travel costs.
I'm paying for that person to show up. Doesn't matter if I ultimately decide to hire them or not, as long as they hold up their end up the bargain to appear for the interview then I'll pay.
Now, if I (as the employer) cancel the interview for whatever reason then I would still reimburse them.
update
To add a little bit: If the candidate does show up then I will provide the reimbursement check during the interview. My payment for their travel would NOT be contingent upon them accepting an offer. Only on that they appeared for the interview as agreed.
I don't mean to decline the interview; I mean to decline the position. I have edited the question to clarify.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:21
@gerrit: I've modified the answer for that situation.
â NotMe
Jan 21 '15 at 18:05
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3 Answers
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accepted
As I read the question: a prospective employer is saying to a candidate: we are offering to pay for you to make a trip to visit us, but our willingness to pay is contingent on your accepting the job if we offer it. In other words, the possible outcomes are:
- no offer -- reimbursement
- offer rejected -- no reimbursement
- offer accepted -- reimbursement
The prospective employer has every right to present these terms, and the candidate has every right to reject them. In my experience, I've never heard of such a thing, for what that's worth.
If I were the candidate, I'd need a written commitment with a great deal of detail before I'd accept this proposition. The only case in which it makes sense to me is one in which a great deal of communication has already happened at a distance and the in-person interview is a sort of pro-forma ritual. Still, it's pretty unfair for the employer to retain the right to reject the employee and refuse that right, effectively, the other way around. So I'd characterize it as a jerk move.
4
Unless it is entirely clear in advance what the terms of employment will be are and they undertake not to alter those terms, add further conditions, etc. then you should be very cautious about incurring significant travel costs: if the employer makes an offer you're unable to accept (pay too low, expectation of out-of-hours work which conflicts with your domestic commitments), then you're stuck with the travel costs.
â user52889
Jan 21 '15 at 18:15
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Indeed, these reimbursement terms could be used as a negotiating tactic to create incentive for the applicant to accept a lower offer than otherwise.
â John Wu
Aug 15 at 20:16
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
As I read the question: a prospective employer is saying to a candidate: we are offering to pay for you to make a trip to visit us, but our willingness to pay is contingent on your accepting the job if we offer it. In other words, the possible outcomes are:
- no offer -- reimbursement
- offer rejected -- no reimbursement
- offer accepted -- reimbursement
The prospective employer has every right to present these terms, and the candidate has every right to reject them. In my experience, I've never heard of such a thing, for what that's worth.
If I were the candidate, I'd need a written commitment with a great deal of detail before I'd accept this proposition. The only case in which it makes sense to me is one in which a great deal of communication has already happened at a distance and the in-person interview is a sort of pro-forma ritual. Still, it's pretty unfair for the employer to retain the right to reject the employee and refuse that right, effectively, the other way around. So I'd characterize it as a jerk move.
4
Unless it is entirely clear in advance what the terms of employment will be are and they undertake not to alter those terms, add further conditions, etc. then you should be very cautious about incurring significant travel costs: if the employer makes an offer you're unable to accept (pay too low, expectation of out-of-hours work which conflicts with your domestic commitments), then you're stuck with the travel costs.
â user52889
Jan 21 '15 at 18:15
1
Indeed, these reimbursement terms could be used as a negotiating tactic to create incentive for the applicant to accept a lower offer than otherwise.
â John Wu
Aug 15 at 20:16
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
up vote
12
down vote
accepted
As I read the question: a prospective employer is saying to a candidate: we are offering to pay for you to make a trip to visit us, but our willingness to pay is contingent on your accepting the job if we offer it. In other words, the possible outcomes are:
- no offer -- reimbursement
- offer rejected -- no reimbursement
- offer accepted -- reimbursement
The prospective employer has every right to present these terms, and the candidate has every right to reject them. In my experience, I've never heard of such a thing, for what that's worth.
If I were the candidate, I'd need a written commitment with a great deal of detail before I'd accept this proposition. The only case in which it makes sense to me is one in which a great deal of communication has already happened at a distance and the in-person interview is a sort of pro-forma ritual. Still, it's pretty unfair for the employer to retain the right to reject the employee and refuse that right, effectively, the other way around. So I'd characterize it as a jerk move.
As I read the question: a prospective employer is saying to a candidate: we are offering to pay for you to make a trip to visit us, but our willingness to pay is contingent on your accepting the job if we offer it. In other words, the possible outcomes are:
- no offer -- reimbursement
- offer rejected -- no reimbursement
- offer accepted -- reimbursement
The prospective employer has every right to present these terms, and the candidate has every right to reject them. In my experience, I've never heard of such a thing, for what that's worth.
If I were the candidate, I'd need a written commitment with a great deal of detail before I'd accept this proposition. The only case in which it makes sense to me is one in which a great deal of communication has already happened at a distance and the in-person interview is a sort of pro-forma ritual. Still, it's pretty unfair for the employer to retain the right to reject the employee and refuse that right, effectively, the other way around. So I'd characterize it as a jerk move.
answered Jan 21 '15 at 17:46
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Unless it is entirely clear in advance what the terms of employment will be are and they undertake not to alter those terms, add further conditions, etc. then you should be very cautious about incurring significant travel costs: if the employer makes an offer you're unable to accept (pay too low, expectation of out-of-hours work which conflicts with your domestic commitments), then you're stuck with the travel costs.
â user52889
Jan 21 '15 at 18:15
1
Indeed, these reimbursement terms could be used as a negotiating tactic to create incentive for the applicant to accept a lower offer than otherwise.
â John Wu
Aug 15 at 20:16
suggest improvements |Â
4
Unless it is entirely clear in advance what the terms of employment will be are and they undertake not to alter those terms, add further conditions, etc. then you should be very cautious about incurring significant travel costs: if the employer makes an offer you're unable to accept (pay too low, expectation of out-of-hours work which conflicts with your domestic commitments), then you're stuck with the travel costs.
â user52889
Jan 21 '15 at 18:15
1
Indeed, these reimbursement terms could be used as a negotiating tactic to create incentive for the applicant to accept a lower offer than otherwise.
â John Wu
Aug 15 at 20:16
4
4
Unless it is entirely clear in advance what the terms of employment will be are and they undertake not to alter those terms, add further conditions, etc. then you should be very cautious about incurring significant travel costs: if the employer makes an offer you're unable to accept (pay too low, expectation of out-of-hours work which conflicts with your domestic commitments), then you're stuck with the travel costs.
â user52889
Jan 21 '15 at 18:15
Unless it is entirely clear in advance what the terms of employment will be are and they undertake not to alter those terms, add further conditions, etc. then you should be very cautious about incurring significant travel costs: if the employer makes an offer you're unable to accept (pay too low, expectation of out-of-hours work which conflicts with your domestic commitments), then you're stuck with the travel costs.
â user52889
Jan 21 '15 at 18:15
1
1
Indeed, these reimbursement terms could be used as a negotiating tactic to create incentive for the applicant to accept a lower offer than otherwise.
â John Wu
Aug 15 at 20:16
Indeed, these reimbursement terms could be used as a negotiating tactic to create incentive for the applicant to accept a lower offer than otherwise.
â John Wu
Aug 15 at 20:16
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
down vote
If the hiring company initially agreed to pay for the travel, then they should stand by their word.
I'm sure they didn't promise the candidate a job before the interview, so why should the candidate have to promise to accept the job(and the company). The interview process is for both sides to be able to evaluate the opportunity and freely decide whether to go further.
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
down vote
If the hiring company initially agreed to pay for the travel, then they should stand by their word.
I'm sure they didn't promise the candidate a job before the interview, so why should the candidate have to promise to accept the job(and the company). The interview process is for both sides to be able to evaluate the opportunity and freely decide whether to go further.
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
3
down vote
up vote
3
down vote
If the hiring company initially agreed to pay for the travel, then they should stand by their word.
I'm sure they didn't promise the candidate a job before the interview, so why should the candidate have to promise to accept the job(and the company). The interview process is for both sides to be able to evaluate the opportunity and freely decide whether to go further.
If the hiring company initially agreed to pay for the travel, then they should stand by their word.
I'm sure they didn't promise the candidate a job before the interview, so why should the candidate have to promise to accept the job(and the company). The interview process is for both sides to be able to evaluate the opportunity and freely decide whether to go further.
answered Jan 21 '15 at 17:27
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If I was going to pay a candidate to travel for an interview with my company and that candidate decided to decline the interview or otherwise not appear then there would be no way that I would reimburse them for the travel costs.
I'm paying for that person to show up. Doesn't matter if I ultimately decide to hire them or not, as long as they hold up their end up the bargain to appear for the interview then I'll pay.
Now, if I (as the employer) cancel the interview for whatever reason then I would still reimburse them.
update
To add a little bit: If the candidate does show up then I will provide the reimbursement check during the interview. My payment for their travel would NOT be contingent upon them accepting an offer. Only on that they appeared for the interview as agreed.
I don't mean to decline the interview; I mean to decline the position. I have edited the question to clarify.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:21
@gerrit: I've modified the answer for that situation.
â NotMe
Jan 21 '15 at 18:05
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If I was going to pay a candidate to travel for an interview with my company and that candidate decided to decline the interview or otherwise not appear then there would be no way that I would reimburse them for the travel costs.
I'm paying for that person to show up. Doesn't matter if I ultimately decide to hire them or not, as long as they hold up their end up the bargain to appear for the interview then I'll pay.
Now, if I (as the employer) cancel the interview for whatever reason then I would still reimburse them.
update
To add a little bit: If the candidate does show up then I will provide the reimbursement check during the interview. My payment for their travel would NOT be contingent upon them accepting an offer. Only on that they appeared for the interview as agreed.
I don't mean to decline the interview; I mean to decline the position. I have edited the question to clarify.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:21
@gerrit: I've modified the answer for that situation.
â NotMe
Jan 21 '15 at 18:05
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up vote
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up vote
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If I was going to pay a candidate to travel for an interview with my company and that candidate decided to decline the interview or otherwise not appear then there would be no way that I would reimburse them for the travel costs.
I'm paying for that person to show up. Doesn't matter if I ultimately decide to hire them or not, as long as they hold up their end up the bargain to appear for the interview then I'll pay.
Now, if I (as the employer) cancel the interview for whatever reason then I would still reimburse them.
update
To add a little bit: If the candidate does show up then I will provide the reimbursement check during the interview. My payment for their travel would NOT be contingent upon them accepting an offer. Only on that they appeared for the interview as agreed.
If I was going to pay a candidate to travel for an interview with my company and that candidate decided to decline the interview or otherwise not appear then there would be no way that I would reimburse them for the travel costs.
I'm paying for that person to show up. Doesn't matter if I ultimately decide to hire them or not, as long as they hold up their end up the bargain to appear for the interview then I'll pay.
Now, if I (as the employer) cancel the interview for whatever reason then I would still reimburse them.
update
To add a little bit: If the candidate does show up then I will provide the reimbursement check during the interview. My payment for their travel would NOT be contingent upon them accepting an offer. Only on that they appeared for the interview as agreed.
answered Jan 21 '15 at 17:20
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I don't mean to decline the interview; I mean to decline the position. I have edited the question to clarify.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:21
@gerrit: I've modified the answer for that situation.
â NotMe
Jan 21 '15 at 18:05
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I don't mean to decline the interview; I mean to decline the position. I have edited the question to clarify.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:21
@gerrit: I've modified the answer for that situation.
â NotMe
Jan 21 '15 at 18:05
I don't mean to decline the interview; I mean to decline the position. I have edited the question to clarify.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:21
I don't mean to decline the interview; I mean to decline the position. I have edited the question to clarify.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:21
@gerrit: I've modified the answer for that situation.
â NotMe
Jan 21 '15 at 18:05
@gerrit: I've modified the answer for that situation.
â NotMe
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Do you mean they did not show up for the interview or they went through the interview, got the job offer but did not accept the job offer?
â cdkMoose
Jan 21 '15 at 17:22
@cdkMoose The latter â edited for clarification.
â gerrit
Jan 21 '15 at 17:23
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I can imagine a company being burned by "candidates" that apply, get a paid transatlantic flight and hotel, have a good time at the destination, then decline a job offer. After such an experience, a company may instate such a policy.
â Stephan Kolassa
Jan 21 '15 at 17:32
1
@Blam prescreening. Phone interviews. Skype interviews. Emails, etc, etc.
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:25
1
@Blam I'm not aware of this even being a 'thing'. Is this some widespread scam? People applying for jobs and attending lot of interviews and being a perfect match only to get a free trip to some suburban office? Point being that I believe most normal employee hiring screening processes will make this a rather moot concern. If, for whatever reason, it happens to be a problem for some particular hiring manager, perhaps they should stop doing on-site interviews. :)
â DA.
Jan 21 '15 at 18:36