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Is GPA a good predictor of workplace success? [duplicate]
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Is it true that the best performing employees are people who used to have a top GPA in college?
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There's an old saying in the Financial sector. "A students work for B students at companies owned by C students"
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:40
How is this not opinion based?
– Ronnie W.
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This isn't a duplicate - that question is focused on whether having it on your resume is good to get you in the door; this question is about long term success.
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How important is a grade point average on a resume?
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Is it true that the best performing employees are people who used to have a top GPA in college?
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How important is a grade point average on a resume?
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There's an old saying in the Financial sector. "A students work for B students at companies owned by C students"
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:40
How is this not opinion based?
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
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This isn't a duplicate - that question is focused on whether having it on your resume is good to get you in the door; this question is about long term success.
– mxyzplk
Mar 30 '16 at 21:39
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There's an old saying in the Financial sector. "A students work for B students at companies owned by C students"
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:40
How is this not opinion based?
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
1
This isn't a duplicate - that question is focused on whether having it on your resume is good to get you in the door; this question is about long term success.
– mxyzplk
Mar 30 '16 at 21:39
There's an old saying in the Financial sector. "A students work for B students at companies owned by C students"
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:40
There's an old saying in the Financial sector. "A students work for B students at companies owned by C students"
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:40
How is this not opinion based?
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
How is this not opinion based?
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
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This isn't a duplicate - that question is focused on whether having it on your resume is good to get you in the door; this question is about long term success.
– mxyzplk
Mar 30 '16 at 21:39
This isn't a duplicate - that question is focused on whether having it on your resume is good to get you in the door; this question is about long term success.
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Mar 30 '16 at 21:39
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No
As for the long answer: there are probably libraries full of books about this. You can read some of them. GPA (or any kind of grades) are certainly an indicator, but you cannot reliably predict anything from them.
I have personally witnessed the top performing employee in a company never having been to college. Go figure.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
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This is the right answer. Education sharpens the tools, but it is the quality of the craftsman that delivers great products.
– JJosaur
Mar 30 '16 at 10:17
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When I was a student I actively tried to do as little work as possible to get a passing grade. The reason for this is because my education system rarely gave a higher grade than 8/10 no matter how good your products are. Also, when I did produce a good product, it'd get dismissed within the next day. On the other hand, now that I'm employed I get motivated to work extra hard. your work equals future promotions and salary. so obviously this is a HUGE motivator.
– Migz
Mar 30 '16 at 10:54
If the Internet had been turned in as a class project, it would have received an "F", as would every program I've written in the field. School teaches theory
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:55
This is anecdotal evidence. -1.
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
@RonnieW. Please note that the anecdote is really just that, an anecdote. May answer is "No, and it's complicated, so please go buy a book and read the primary sources".
– nvoigt
Mar 30 '16 at 14:06
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No, not necessarily.
Here is a formal study that finds minimal correlation between GPA and adult success. To quote in part,
The average correlation between grade average and a composite success criterion was .18, a small effect. Correlations between grade average and eight other criteria of adult achievement were also small, ranging from .09 to .20. Correlational effects were larger in military settings and for studies conducted prior to 1950. The results of this meta-analysis may be somewhat discouraging to those who place a great deal of importance on the predictive value of grades.
Companies who are performing analytics are starting to find the same thing - Google, for example, is starting to discount GPA as a hiring factor once someone's two years out of school as described in this Atlantic Monthly article.
I spoke with managers at a lot of companies who are using advanced analytics to reevaluate and reshape their hiring, and nearly all of them told me that their research is leading them toward pools of candidates who didn’t attend college—for tech jobs, for high-end sales positions, for some managerial roles.
This will of course differ by the type of job in question (e.g. higher education and the military), and to a degree since some organizations select for college/GPA there is a self-fulfilling correlation to success in those organizations.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
mxyzplk
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Excellent link, full of insights. Thanks a lot. +1, of course.
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Mar 31 '16 at 9:14
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active
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Short answer:
No
As for the long answer: there are probably libraries full of books about this. You can read some of them. GPA (or any kind of grades) are certainly an indicator, but you cannot reliably predict anything from them.
I have personally witnessed the top performing employee in a company never having been to college. Go figure.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
nvoigt
42.6k18105147
This is the right answer. Education sharpens the tools, but it is the quality of the craftsman that delivers great products.
– JJosaur
Mar 30 '16 at 10:17
3
When I was a student I actively tried to do as little work as possible to get a passing grade. The reason for this is because my education system rarely gave a higher grade than 8/10 no matter how good your products are. Also, when I did produce a good product, it'd get dismissed within the next day. On the other hand, now that I'm employed I get motivated to work extra hard. your work equals future promotions and salary. so obviously this is a HUGE motivator.
– Migz
Mar 30 '16 at 10:54
If the Internet had been turned in as a class project, it would have received an "F", as would every program I've written in the field. School teaches theory
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:55
This is anecdotal evidence. -1.
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
@RonnieW. Please note that the anecdote is really just that, an anecdote. May answer is "No, and it's complicated, so please go buy a book and read the primary sources".
– nvoigt
Mar 30 '16 at 14:06
 |Â
show 3 more comments
up vote
13
down vote
accepted
Short answer:
No
As for the long answer: there are probably libraries full of books about this. You can read some of them. GPA (or any kind of grades) are certainly an indicator, but you cannot reliably predict anything from them.
I have personally witnessed the top performing employee in a company never having been to college. Go figure.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
nvoigt
42.6k18105147
This is the right answer. Education sharpens the tools, but it is the quality of the craftsman that delivers great products.
– JJosaur
Mar 30 '16 at 10:17
3
When I was a student I actively tried to do as little work as possible to get a passing grade. The reason for this is because my education system rarely gave a higher grade than 8/10 no matter how good your products are. Also, when I did produce a good product, it'd get dismissed within the next day. On the other hand, now that I'm employed I get motivated to work extra hard. your work equals future promotions and salary. so obviously this is a HUGE motivator.
– Migz
Mar 30 '16 at 10:54
If the Internet had been turned in as a class project, it would have received an "F", as would every program I've written in the field. School teaches theory
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:55
This is anecdotal evidence. -1.
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
@RonnieW. Please note that the anecdote is really just that, an anecdote. May answer is "No, and it's complicated, so please go buy a book and read the primary sources".
– nvoigt
Mar 30 '16 at 14:06
 |Â
show 3 more comments
up vote
13
down vote
accepted
up vote
13
down vote
accepted
Short answer:
No
As for the long answer: there are probably libraries full of books about this. You can read some of them. GPA (or any kind of grades) are certainly an indicator, but you cannot reliably predict anything from them.
I have personally witnessed the top performing employee in a company never having been to college. Go figure.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
nvoigt
42.6k18105147
Short answer:
No
As for the long answer: there are probably libraries full of books about this. You can read some of them. GPA (or any kind of grades) are certainly an indicator, but you cannot reliably predict anything from them.
I have personally witnessed the top performing employee in a company never having been to college. Go figure.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
nvoigt
42.6k18105147
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
nvoigt
42.6k18105147
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
nvoigt
42.6k18105147
answered Mar 30 '16 at 10:09
nvoigt
42.6k18105147
42.6k18105147
This is the right answer. Education sharpens the tools, but it is the quality of the craftsman that delivers great products.
– JJosaur
Mar 30 '16 at 10:17
3
When I was a student I actively tried to do as little work as possible to get a passing grade. The reason for this is because my education system rarely gave a higher grade than 8/10 no matter how good your products are. Also, when I did produce a good product, it'd get dismissed within the next day. On the other hand, now that I'm employed I get motivated to work extra hard. your work equals future promotions and salary. so obviously this is a HUGE motivator.
– Migz
Mar 30 '16 at 10:54
If the Internet had been turned in as a class project, it would have received an "F", as would every program I've written in the field. School teaches theory
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:55
This is anecdotal evidence. -1.
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
@RonnieW. Please note that the anecdote is really just that, an anecdote. May answer is "No, and it's complicated, so please go buy a book and read the primary sources".
– nvoigt
Mar 30 '16 at 14:06
 |Â
show 3 more comments
This is the right answer. Education sharpens the tools, but it is the quality of the craftsman that delivers great products.
– JJosaur
Mar 30 '16 at 10:17
3
When I was a student I actively tried to do as little work as possible to get a passing grade. The reason for this is because my education system rarely gave a higher grade than 8/10 no matter how good your products are. Also, when I did produce a good product, it'd get dismissed within the next day. On the other hand, now that I'm employed I get motivated to work extra hard. your work equals future promotions and salary. so obviously this is a HUGE motivator.
– Migz
Mar 30 '16 at 10:54
If the Internet had been turned in as a class project, it would have received an "F", as would every program I've written in the field. School teaches theory
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:55
This is anecdotal evidence. -1.
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
@RonnieW. Please note that the anecdote is really just that, an anecdote. May answer is "No, and it's complicated, so please go buy a book and read the primary sources".
– nvoigt
Mar 30 '16 at 14:06
This is the right answer. Education sharpens the tools, but it is the quality of the craftsman that delivers great products.
– JJosaur
Mar 30 '16 at 10:17
This is the right answer. Education sharpens the tools, but it is the quality of the craftsman that delivers great products.
– JJosaur
Mar 30 '16 at 10:17
3
3
When I was a student I actively tried to do as little work as possible to get a passing grade. The reason for this is because my education system rarely gave a higher grade than 8/10 no matter how good your products are. Also, when I did produce a good product, it'd get dismissed within the next day. On the other hand, now that I'm employed I get motivated to work extra hard. your work equals future promotions and salary. so obviously this is a HUGE motivator.
– Migz
Mar 30 '16 at 10:54
When I was a student I actively tried to do as little work as possible to get a passing grade. The reason for this is because my education system rarely gave a higher grade than 8/10 no matter how good your products are. Also, when I did produce a good product, it'd get dismissed within the next day. On the other hand, now that I'm employed I get motivated to work extra hard. your work equals future promotions and salary. so obviously this is a HUGE motivator.
– Migz
Mar 30 '16 at 10:54
If the Internet had been turned in as a class project, it would have received an "F", as would every program I've written in the field. School teaches theory
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:55
If the Internet had been turned in as a class project, it would have received an "F", as would every program I've written in the field. School teaches theory
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:55
This is anecdotal evidence. -1.
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
This is anecdotal evidence. -1.
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
@RonnieW. Please note that the anecdote is really just that, an anecdote. May answer is "No, and it's complicated, so please go buy a book and read the primary sources".
– nvoigt
Mar 30 '16 at 14:06
@RonnieW. Please note that the anecdote is really just that, an anecdote. May answer is "No, and it's complicated, so please go buy a book and read the primary sources".
– nvoigt
Mar 30 '16 at 14:06
 |Â
show 3 more comments
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No, not necessarily.
Here is a formal study that finds minimal correlation between GPA and adult success. To quote in part,
The average correlation between grade average and a composite success criterion was .18, a small effect. Correlations between grade average and eight other criteria of adult achievement were also small, ranging from .09 to .20. Correlational effects were larger in military settings and for studies conducted prior to 1950. The results of this meta-analysis may be somewhat discouraging to those who place a great deal of importance on the predictive value of grades.
Companies who are performing analytics are starting to find the same thing - Google, for example, is starting to discount GPA as a hiring factor once someone's two years out of school as described in this Atlantic Monthly article.
I spoke with managers at a lot of companies who are using advanced analytics to reevaluate and reshape their hiring, and nearly all of them told me that their research is leading them toward pools of candidates who didn’t attend college—for tech jobs, for high-end sales positions, for some managerial roles.
This will of course differ by the type of job in question (e.g. higher education and the military), and to a degree since some organizations select for college/GPA there is a self-fulfilling correlation to success in those organizations.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
mxyzplk
7,16512134
Excellent link, full of insights. Thanks a lot. +1, of course.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 31 '16 at 9:14
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up vote
9
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No, not necessarily.
Here is a formal study that finds minimal correlation between GPA and adult success. To quote in part,
The average correlation between grade average and a composite success criterion was .18, a small effect. Correlations between grade average and eight other criteria of adult achievement were also small, ranging from .09 to .20. Correlational effects were larger in military settings and for studies conducted prior to 1950. The results of this meta-analysis may be somewhat discouraging to those who place a great deal of importance on the predictive value of grades.
Companies who are performing analytics are starting to find the same thing - Google, for example, is starting to discount GPA as a hiring factor once someone's two years out of school as described in this Atlantic Monthly article.
I spoke with managers at a lot of companies who are using advanced analytics to reevaluate and reshape their hiring, and nearly all of them told me that their research is leading them toward pools of candidates who didn’t attend college—for tech jobs, for high-end sales positions, for some managerial roles.
This will of course differ by the type of job in question (e.g. higher education and the military), and to a degree since some organizations select for college/GPA there is a self-fulfilling correlation to success in those organizations.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
mxyzplk
7,16512134
Excellent link, full of insights. Thanks a lot. +1, of course.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 31 '16 at 9:14
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
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up vote
9
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No, not necessarily.
Here is a formal study that finds minimal correlation between GPA and adult success. To quote in part,
The average correlation between grade average and a composite success criterion was .18, a small effect. Correlations between grade average and eight other criteria of adult achievement were also small, ranging from .09 to .20. Correlational effects were larger in military settings and for studies conducted prior to 1950. The results of this meta-analysis may be somewhat discouraging to those who place a great deal of importance on the predictive value of grades.
Companies who are performing analytics are starting to find the same thing - Google, for example, is starting to discount GPA as a hiring factor once someone's two years out of school as described in this Atlantic Monthly article.
I spoke with managers at a lot of companies who are using advanced analytics to reevaluate and reshape their hiring, and nearly all of them told me that their research is leading them toward pools of candidates who didn’t attend college—for tech jobs, for high-end sales positions, for some managerial roles.
This will of course differ by the type of job in question (e.g. higher education and the military), and to a degree since some organizations select for college/GPA there is a self-fulfilling correlation to success in those organizations.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
mxyzplk
7,16512134
No, not necessarily.
Here is a formal study that finds minimal correlation between GPA and adult success. To quote in part,
The average correlation between grade average and a composite success criterion was .18, a small effect. Correlations between grade average and eight other criteria of adult achievement were also small, ranging from .09 to .20. Correlational effects were larger in military settings and for studies conducted prior to 1950. The results of this meta-analysis may be somewhat discouraging to those who place a great deal of importance on the predictive value of grades.
Companies who are performing analytics are starting to find the same thing - Google, for example, is starting to discount GPA as a hiring factor once someone's two years out of school as described in this Atlantic Monthly article.
I spoke with managers at a lot of companies who are using advanced analytics to reevaluate and reshape their hiring, and nearly all of them told me that their research is leading them toward pools of candidates who didn’t attend college—for tech jobs, for high-end sales positions, for some managerial roles.
This will of course differ by the type of job in question (e.g. higher education and the military), and to a degree since some organizations select for college/GPA there is a self-fulfilling correlation to success in those organizations.
answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
mxyzplk
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answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
mxyzplk
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answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
mxyzplk
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answered Mar 30 '16 at 13:30
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Excellent link, full of insights. Thanks a lot. +1, of course.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 31 '16 at 9:14
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Excellent link, full of insights. Thanks a lot. +1, of course.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 31 '16 at 9:14
Excellent link, full of insights. Thanks a lot. +1, of course.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 31 '16 at 9:14
Excellent link, full of insights. Thanks a lot. +1, of course.
– gazzz0x2z
Mar 31 '16 at 9:14
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There's an old saying in the Financial sector. "A students work for B students at companies owned by C students"
– Richard U
Mar 30 '16 at 12:40
How is this not opinion based?
– Ronnie W.
Mar 30 '16 at 13:41
1
This isn't a duplicate - that question is focused on whether having it on your resume is good to get you in the door; this question is about long term success.
– mxyzplk
Mar 30 '16 at 21:39