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I am working with organisation A.
I got a job offer from organisation B of $X. I accepted it.



I gave notice of resignation at A. A gave me counter offer of $X + 10%.



How can I use this offer from A to renegotiate my salary with B to say something like $X+20%?







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closed as primarily opinion-based by paparazzo, The Wandering Dev Manager, Chris E, AndreiROM, gnat Mar 18 '16 at 15:16


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  • You can try, just be prepared to stay at A.
    – Ron Beyer
    Mar 18 '16 at 2:27










  • Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the offer as you have already accepted their last offer.
    – samarasa
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:12






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    Consider this carefully. If Company B told you to pound sand, would you be happy staying at Company A with the new salary? Are you confident that having done this wouldn't poison the well with Company A? If not, this might not be a good idea. You should at least have a look at articles written about counteroffers by workplace columnists, who are almost universally negative about them.
    – Casey
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:32







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    running an auction is one way to become unemployed, the mistake you made was giving company A the value of $X, so they countered with $X +10%. It would have been smarter to either inflate $X or give them a clear amount which would make you stay. Company B at this point is unknown, you may well get the offer withdrawn if you play games.
    – Kilisi
    Mar 18 '16 at 7:12










  • Simply inform them of the counteroffer, but be prepared that they might withdraw their own.
    – AndreiROM
    Mar 18 '16 at 14:59
















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I am working with organisation A.
I got a job offer from organisation B of $X. I accepted it.



I gave notice of resignation at A. A gave me counter offer of $X + 10%.



How can I use this offer from A to renegotiate my salary with B to say something like $X+20%?







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closed as primarily opinion-based by paparazzo, The Wandering Dev Manager, Chris E, AndreiROM, gnat Mar 18 '16 at 15:16


Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.














  • You can try, just be prepared to stay at A.
    – Ron Beyer
    Mar 18 '16 at 2:27










  • Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the offer as you have already accepted their last offer.
    – samarasa
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:12






  • 4




    Consider this carefully. If Company B told you to pound sand, would you be happy staying at Company A with the new salary? Are you confident that having done this wouldn't poison the well with Company A? If not, this might not be a good idea. You should at least have a look at articles written about counteroffers by workplace columnists, who are almost universally negative about them.
    – Casey
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:32







  • 4




    running an auction is one way to become unemployed, the mistake you made was giving company A the value of $X, so they countered with $X +10%. It would have been smarter to either inflate $X or give them a clear amount which would make you stay. Company B at this point is unknown, you may well get the offer withdrawn if you play games.
    – Kilisi
    Mar 18 '16 at 7:12










  • Simply inform them of the counteroffer, but be prepared that they might withdraw their own.
    – AndreiROM
    Mar 18 '16 at 14:59












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I am working with organisation A.
I got a job offer from organisation B of $X. I accepted it.



I gave notice of resignation at A. A gave me counter offer of $X + 10%.



How can I use this offer from A to renegotiate my salary with B to say something like $X+20%?







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I am working with organisation A.
I got a job offer from organisation B of $X. I accepted it.



I gave notice of resignation at A. A gave me counter offer of $X + 10%.



How can I use this offer from A to renegotiate my salary with B to say something like $X+20%?









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closed as primarily opinion-based by paparazzo, The Wandering Dev Manager, Chris E, AndreiROM, gnat Mar 18 '16 at 15:16


Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.






closed as primarily opinion-based by paparazzo, The Wandering Dev Manager, Chris E, AndreiROM, gnat Mar 18 '16 at 15:16


Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.













  • You can try, just be prepared to stay at A.
    – Ron Beyer
    Mar 18 '16 at 2:27










  • Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the offer as you have already accepted their last offer.
    – samarasa
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:12






  • 4




    Consider this carefully. If Company B told you to pound sand, would you be happy staying at Company A with the new salary? Are you confident that having done this wouldn't poison the well with Company A? If not, this might not be a good idea. You should at least have a look at articles written about counteroffers by workplace columnists, who are almost universally negative about them.
    – Casey
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:32







  • 4




    running an auction is one way to become unemployed, the mistake you made was giving company A the value of $X, so they countered with $X +10%. It would have been smarter to either inflate $X or give them a clear amount which would make you stay. Company B at this point is unknown, you may well get the offer withdrawn if you play games.
    – Kilisi
    Mar 18 '16 at 7:12










  • Simply inform them of the counteroffer, but be prepared that they might withdraw their own.
    – AndreiROM
    Mar 18 '16 at 14:59
















  • You can try, just be prepared to stay at A.
    – Ron Beyer
    Mar 18 '16 at 2:27










  • Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the offer as you have already accepted their last offer.
    – samarasa
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:12






  • 4




    Consider this carefully. If Company B told you to pound sand, would you be happy staying at Company A with the new salary? Are you confident that having done this wouldn't poison the well with Company A? If not, this might not be a good idea. You should at least have a look at articles written about counteroffers by workplace columnists, who are almost universally negative about them.
    – Casey
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:32







  • 4




    running an auction is one way to become unemployed, the mistake you made was giving company A the value of $X, so they countered with $X +10%. It would have been smarter to either inflate $X or give them a clear amount which would make you stay. Company B at this point is unknown, you may well get the offer withdrawn if you play games.
    – Kilisi
    Mar 18 '16 at 7:12










  • Simply inform them of the counteroffer, but be prepared that they might withdraw their own.
    – AndreiROM
    Mar 18 '16 at 14:59















You can try, just be prepared to stay at A.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 18 '16 at 2:27




You can try, just be prepared to stay at A.
– Ron Beyer
Mar 18 '16 at 2:27












Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the offer as you have already accepted their last offer.
– samarasa
Mar 18 '16 at 3:12




Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the offer as you have already accepted their last offer.
– samarasa
Mar 18 '16 at 3:12




4




4




Consider this carefully. If Company B told you to pound sand, would you be happy staying at Company A with the new salary? Are you confident that having done this wouldn't poison the well with Company A? If not, this might not be a good idea. You should at least have a look at articles written about counteroffers by workplace columnists, who are almost universally negative about them.
– Casey
Mar 18 '16 at 3:32





Consider this carefully. If Company B told you to pound sand, would you be happy staying at Company A with the new salary? Are you confident that having done this wouldn't poison the well with Company A? If not, this might not be a good idea. You should at least have a look at articles written about counteroffers by workplace columnists, who are almost universally negative about them.
– Casey
Mar 18 '16 at 3:32





4




4




running an auction is one way to become unemployed, the mistake you made was giving company A the value of $X, so they countered with $X +10%. It would have been smarter to either inflate $X or give them a clear amount which would make you stay. Company B at this point is unknown, you may well get the offer withdrawn if you play games.
– Kilisi
Mar 18 '16 at 7:12




running an auction is one way to become unemployed, the mistake you made was giving company A the value of $X, so they countered with $X +10%. It would have been smarter to either inflate $X or give them a clear amount which would make you stay. Company B at this point is unknown, you may well get the offer withdrawn if you play games.
– Kilisi
Mar 18 '16 at 7:12












Simply inform them of the counteroffer, but be prepared that they might withdraw their own.
– AndreiROM
Mar 18 '16 at 14:59




Simply inform them of the counteroffer, but be prepared that they might withdraw their own.
– AndreiROM
Mar 18 '16 at 14:59










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You can try. Though they really don't care what anyone else thinks you're worth; what matters to them is what they think you're worth, and whether they can hire you for that or less.



Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage.



And you do risk their giving the job to someone else who isn't asking for more.



But asking "could you increase that a bit, so I'm more certain I'm making the right choice" will usually not cause them to write you off; they're more likely to just say no.






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    "Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage" is the key point, although it's also worth considering the possibility that trying to renegotiate at this point could lead them to decide to pull the offer.
    – Casey
    Mar 18 '16 at 3:47

















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You're playing poker. There is no "right" answer to which will work. There is, however, a right answer to preserving your professional reputation.



You accepted an offer from B. You now wish to renegotiate. You'll need to be very forthright. Simply admit that you were unaware of your market value, and that it would be irresponsible of you to not accept A's counter offer for you and your family. You would be willing to move forward with B, but they would have to offer $x. Don't give specifics about A's offer. Just state what you need.



Be aware that A will likely pass you by for any raises or extra remuneration for the next raise cycle or 3. So if these are long-term plays, look past 10% to your bigger opportunities. If you plan on shifting jobs, take what you can get where you find it.






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    Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the last offer that you have already accepted. How can they (B) believe you that you won't ask more than $X+20% when you get a second counter offer from A (or C). At the end you will definitely get bad reputation at both places. My suggestion is to leave A with good terms and join B. See whether you like the new place (B) or not. If not, you can easily come back to A for a decent salary ($X + 10%).



    Please note that Salary is just one of the factors that make you happy. The other important factors are: 1) people you work with; 2) culture; and 3) projects.






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      You can try. Though they really don't care what anyone else thinks you're worth; what matters to them is what they think you're worth, and whether they can hire you for that or less.



      Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage.



      And you do risk their giving the job to someone else who isn't asking for more.



      But asking "could you increase that a bit, so I'm more certain I'm making the right choice" will usually not cause them to write you off; they're more likely to just say no.






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        "Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage" is the key point, although it's also worth considering the possibility that trying to renegotiate at this point could lead them to decide to pull the offer.
        – Casey
        Mar 18 '16 at 3:47














      up vote
      4
      down vote



      accepted










      You can try. Though they really don't care what anyone else thinks you're worth; what matters to them is what they think you're worth, and whether they can hire you for that or less.



      Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage.



      And you do risk their giving the job to someone else who isn't asking for more.



      But asking "could you increase that a bit, so I'm more certain I'm making the right choice" will usually not cause them to write you off; they're more likely to just say no.






      share|improve this answer

















      • 3




        "Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage" is the key point, although it's also worth considering the possibility that trying to renegotiate at this point could lead them to decide to pull the offer.
        – Casey
        Mar 18 '16 at 3:47












      up vote
      4
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      accepted







      up vote
      4
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      accepted






      You can try. Though they really don't care what anyone else thinks you're worth; what matters to them is what they think you're worth, and whether they can hire you for that or less.



      Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage.



      And you do risk their giving the job to someone else who isn't asking for more.



      But asking "could you increase that a bit, so I'm more certain I'm making the right choice" will usually not cause them to write you off; they're more likely to just say no.






      share|improve this answer













      You can try. Though they really don't care what anyone else thinks you're worth; what matters to them is what they think you're worth, and whether they can hire you for that or less.



      Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage.



      And you do risk their giving the job to someone else who isn't asking for more.



      But asking "could you increase that a bit, so I'm more certain I'm making the right choice" will usually not cause them to write you off; they're more likely to just say no.







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      answered Mar 18 '16 at 2:39









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        "Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage" is the key point, although it's also worth considering the possibility that trying to renegotiate at this point could lead them to decide to pull the offer.
        – Casey
        Mar 18 '16 at 3:47












      • 3




        "Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage" is the key point, although it's also worth considering the possibility that trying to renegotiate at this point could lead them to decide to pull the offer.
        – Casey
        Mar 18 '16 at 3:47







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      "Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage" is the key point, although it's also worth considering the possibility that trying to renegotiate at this point could lead them to decide to pull the offer.
      – Casey
      Mar 18 '16 at 3:47




      "Unless you are willing to walk away if they say no, you have very little leverage" is the key point, although it's also worth considering the possibility that trying to renegotiate at this point could lead them to decide to pull the offer.
      – Casey
      Mar 18 '16 at 3:47












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      You're playing poker. There is no "right" answer to which will work. There is, however, a right answer to preserving your professional reputation.



      You accepted an offer from B. You now wish to renegotiate. You'll need to be very forthright. Simply admit that you were unaware of your market value, and that it would be irresponsible of you to not accept A's counter offer for you and your family. You would be willing to move forward with B, but they would have to offer $x. Don't give specifics about A's offer. Just state what you need.



      Be aware that A will likely pass you by for any raises or extra remuneration for the next raise cycle or 3. So if these are long-term plays, look past 10% to your bigger opportunities. If you plan on shifting jobs, take what you can get where you find it.






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        up vote
        2
        down vote













        You're playing poker. There is no "right" answer to which will work. There is, however, a right answer to preserving your professional reputation.



        You accepted an offer from B. You now wish to renegotiate. You'll need to be very forthright. Simply admit that you were unaware of your market value, and that it would be irresponsible of you to not accept A's counter offer for you and your family. You would be willing to move forward with B, but they would have to offer $x. Don't give specifics about A's offer. Just state what you need.



        Be aware that A will likely pass you by for any raises or extra remuneration for the next raise cycle or 3. So if these are long-term plays, look past 10% to your bigger opportunities. If you plan on shifting jobs, take what you can get where you find it.






        share|improve this answer

























          up vote
          2
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          up vote
          2
          down vote









          You're playing poker. There is no "right" answer to which will work. There is, however, a right answer to preserving your professional reputation.



          You accepted an offer from B. You now wish to renegotiate. You'll need to be very forthright. Simply admit that you were unaware of your market value, and that it would be irresponsible of you to not accept A's counter offer for you and your family. You would be willing to move forward with B, but they would have to offer $x. Don't give specifics about A's offer. Just state what you need.



          Be aware that A will likely pass you by for any raises or extra remuneration for the next raise cycle or 3. So if these are long-term plays, look past 10% to your bigger opportunities. If you plan on shifting jobs, take what you can get where you find it.






          share|improve this answer















          You're playing poker. There is no "right" answer to which will work. There is, however, a right answer to preserving your professional reputation.



          You accepted an offer from B. You now wish to renegotiate. You'll need to be very forthright. Simply admit that you were unaware of your market value, and that it would be irresponsible of you to not accept A's counter offer for you and your family. You would be willing to move forward with B, but they would have to offer $x. Don't give specifics about A's offer. Just state what you need.



          Be aware that A will likely pass you by for any raises or extra remuneration for the next raise cycle or 3. So if these are long-term plays, look past 10% to your bigger opportunities. If you plan on shifting jobs, take what you can get where you find it.







          share|improve this answer















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              Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the last offer that you have already accepted. How can they (B) believe you that you won't ask more than $X+20% when you get a second counter offer from A (or C). At the end you will definitely get bad reputation at both places. My suggestion is to leave A with good terms and join B. See whether you like the new place (B) or not. If not, you can easily come back to A for a decent salary ($X + 10%).



              Please note that Salary is just one of the factors that make you happy. The other important factors are: 1) people you work with; 2) culture; and 3) projects.






              share|improve this answer



























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                2
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                Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the last offer that you have already accepted. How can they (B) believe you that you won't ask more than $X+20% when you get a second counter offer from A (or C). At the end you will definitely get bad reputation at both places. My suggestion is to leave A with good terms and join B. See whether you like the new place (B) or not. If not, you can easily come back to A for a decent salary ($X + 10%).



                Please note that Salary is just one of the factors that make you happy. The other important factors are: 1) people you work with; 2) culture; and 3) projects.






                share|improve this answer

























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                  Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the last offer that you have already accepted. How can they (B) believe you that you won't ask more than $X+20% when you get a second counter offer from A (or C). At the end you will definitely get bad reputation at both places. My suggestion is to leave A with good terms and join B. See whether you like the new place (B) or not. If not, you can easily come back to A for a decent salary ($X + 10%).



                  Please note that Salary is just one of the factors that make you happy. The other important factors are: 1) people you work with; 2) culture; and 3) projects.






                  share|improve this answer















                  Don't damage your reputation by asking B again to revise the last offer that you have already accepted. How can they (B) believe you that you won't ask more than $X+20% when you get a second counter offer from A (or C). At the end you will definitely get bad reputation at both places. My suggestion is to leave A with good terms and join B. See whether you like the new place (B) or not. If not, you can easily come back to A for a decent salary ($X + 10%).



                  Please note that Salary is just one of the factors that make you happy. The other important factors are: 1) people you work with; 2) culture; and 3) projects.







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