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Those of you who watch Bollywood films might have heard of the movie Corporate.
In this movie, there is a sequence of events in which two rival companies are working on their products, and one company's project is valued at INR 3000 crores($600 million). A Vice President level employee is in possession of sensitive research data, but that's leaked when the employee sleeps with some girl and the rival company pays her to help them get said data.
The next day, the employee is called and told that the data was leaked. The boss even has a photograph of the girl. Needless to say, the project crashes and the employee is fired.
Is this scenario analogous to one in real life? Do companies have a 'spy' network which will be keeping them up to date with recent developments in rival companies? Or do the regular employees themselves do that role?
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asked Mar 28 '16 at 20:22
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Those of you who watch Bollywood films might have heard of the movie Corporate.
In this movie, there is a sequence of events in which two rival companies are working on their products, and one company's project is valued at INR 3000 crores($600 million). A Vice President level employee is in possession of sensitive research data, but that's leaked when the employee sleeps with some girl and the rival company pays her to help them get said data.
The next day, the employee is called and told that the data was leaked. The boss even has a photograph of the girl. Needless to say, the project crashes and the employee is fired.
Is this scenario analogous to one in real life? Do companies have a 'spy' network which will be keeping them up to date with recent developments in rival companies? Or do the regular employees themselves do that role?
management
asked Mar 28 '16 at 20:22
cst1992
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closed as primarily opinion-based by NotMe, mcknz, Michael Grubey, Dawny33, user9158 Mar 29 '16 at 4:15
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Highly doubtful... But makes a good movie. Money, sex and conspiracy... best combination for Holly/Bollywood, but it stops there in y opinion.
– MelBurslan
Mar 28 '16 at 20:25
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only in bollywood (although various state owned organizations in various countries have access to various data acquired through various illicit efforts).
– hownowbrowncow
Mar 28 '16 at 20:26
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Not sure why this is getting close votes for being opinion based. Corporate espionage is a real thing and this is perfectly answerable and on-topic.
– Lilienthal♦
Mar 28 '16 at 22:11
Yes. usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/…
– jimm101
Mar 28 '16 at 23:49
Anything goes. @jimm101 is right, the Chinese are practicing a lot of this stuff, and everybody else is doing the same.
– Deer Hunter
Mar 29 '16 at 1:51
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Those of you who watch Bollywood films might have heard of the movie Corporate.
In this movie, there is a sequence of events in which two rival companies are working on their products, and one company's project is valued at INR 3000 crores($600 million). A Vice President level employee is in possession of sensitive research data, but that's leaked when the employee sleeps with some girl and the rival company pays her to help them get said data.
The next day, the employee is called and told that the data was leaked. The boss even has a photograph of the girl. Needless to say, the project crashes and the employee is fired.
Is this scenario analogous to one in real life? Do companies have a 'spy' network which will be keeping them up to date with recent developments in rival companies? Or do the regular employees themselves do that role?
management
asked Mar 28 '16 at 20:22
cst1992
1,39111027
Those of you who watch Bollywood films might have heard of the movie Corporate.
In this movie, there is a sequence of events in which two rival companies are working on their products, and one company's project is valued at INR 3000 crores($600 million). A Vice President level employee is in possession of sensitive research data, but that's leaked when the employee sleeps with some girl and the rival company pays her to help them get said data.
The next day, the employee is called and told that the data was leaked. The boss even has a photograph of the girl. Needless to say, the project crashes and the employee is fired.
Is this scenario analogous to one in real life? Do companies have a 'spy' network which will be keeping them up to date with recent developments in rival companies? Or do the regular employees themselves do that role?
management
asked Mar 28 '16 at 20:22
cst1992
1,39111027
asked Mar 28 '16 at 20:22
cst1992
1,39111027
asked Mar 28 '16 at 20:22
cst1992
1,39111027
asked Mar 28 '16 at 20:22
cst1992
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1,39111027
closed as primarily opinion-based by NotMe, mcknz, Michael Grubey, Dawny33, user9158 Mar 29 '16 at 4:15
Many good questions generate some degree of opinion based on expert experience, but answers to this question will tend to be almost entirely based on opinions, rather than facts, references, or specific expertise. If this question can be reworded to fit the rules in the help center, please edit the question.
closed as primarily opinion-based by NotMe, mcknz, Michael Grubey, Dawny33, user9158 Mar 29 '16 at 4:15
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Highly doubtful... But makes a good movie. Money, sex and conspiracy... best combination for Holly/Bollywood, but it stops there in y opinion.
– MelBurslan
Mar 28 '16 at 20:25
1
only in bollywood (although various state owned organizations in various countries have access to various data acquired through various illicit efforts).
– hownowbrowncow
Mar 28 '16 at 20:26
1
Not sure why this is getting close votes for being opinion based. Corporate espionage is a real thing and this is perfectly answerable and on-topic.
– Lilienthal♦
Mar 28 '16 at 22:11
Yes. usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/…
– jimm101
Mar 28 '16 at 23:49
Anything goes. @jimm101 is right, the Chinese are practicing a lot of this stuff, and everybody else is doing the same.
– Deer Hunter
Mar 29 '16 at 1:51
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Highly doubtful... But makes a good movie. Money, sex and conspiracy... best combination for Holly/Bollywood, but it stops there in y opinion.
– MelBurslan
Mar 28 '16 at 20:25
1
only in bollywood (although various state owned organizations in various countries have access to various data acquired through various illicit efforts).
– hownowbrowncow
Mar 28 '16 at 20:26
1
Not sure why this is getting close votes for being opinion based. Corporate espionage is a real thing and this is perfectly answerable and on-topic.
– Lilienthal♦
Mar 28 '16 at 22:11
Yes. usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/…
– jimm101
Mar 28 '16 at 23:49
Anything goes. @jimm101 is right, the Chinese are practicing a lot of this stuff, and everybody else is doing the same.
– Deer Hunter
Mar 29 '16 at 1:51
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3
Highly doubtful... But makes a good movie. Money, sex and conspiracy... best combination for Holly/Bollywood, but it stops there in y opinion.
– MelBurslan
Mar 28 '16 at 20:25
Highly doubtful... But makes a good movie. Money, sex and conspiracy... best combination for Holly/Bollywood, but it stops there in y opinion.
– MelBurslan
Mar 28 '16 at 20:25
1
1
only in bollywood (although various state owned organizations in various countries have access to various data acquired through various illicit efforts).
– hownowbrowncow
Mar 28 '16 at 20:26
only in bollywood (although various state owned organizations in various countries have access to various data acquired through various illicit efforts).
– hownowbrowncow
Mar 28 '16 at 20:26
1
1
Not sure why this is getting close votes for being opinion based. Corporate espionage is a real thing and this is perfectly answerable and on-topic.
– Lilienthal♦
Mar 28 '16 at 22:11
Not sure why this is getting close votes for being opinion based. Corporate espionage is a real thing and this is perfectly answerable and on-topic.
– Lilienthal♦
Mar 28 '16 at 22:11
Yes. usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/…
– jimm101
Mar 28 '16 at 23:49
Yes. usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/…
– jimm101
Mar 28 '16 at 23:49
Anything goes. @jimm101 is right, the Chinese are practicing a lot of this stuff, and everybody else is doing the same.
– Deer Hunter
Mar 29 '16 at 1:51
Anything goes. @jimm101 is right, the Chinese are practicing a lot of this stuff, and everybody else is doing the same.
– Deer Hunter
Mar 29 '16 at 1:51
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It's never all that glamorous, but in any industry, keeping company confidential information protected isn't easy and is a big deal. Corporate espionage rarely involves:
- a good soundtrack
- great outfits
- very fit people who may also be able to whip out a song and dance number at a moment's notice
It can, however involve:
- people being fired for disregarding security policy
- companies losing money because their secrets were disclosed
- leaks coming both from personal connections between companies, and also overheard conversations that should never have been held off of company property
- social engineering hacks and other attacks that put intruders inside of company boundaries - both physical and digital
Do companies employ a whole separate division or similar of 'spies' to attack other companies? I have yet to see it. I have sat on proposals where we tried to "ghost" the other company (ie, build a proposal that is better than the competition that presupposes the moves that the other company will make) - this can be as clean and above board as simply looking for patterns in previous behavior, or as sneaky as using a collection of knowledge and insights that get into the range of "I don't want to know how you know that".
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
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answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
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Not 'attack', just 'keep an eye on'. You know, kind of like an intelligence bureau.
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 5:26
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Any strategic planning group will evaluate competitors. A lot of information is available legal in the public domain.
Where you get into a bit of spy-craft
A company may put out some false information as unofficial
Let's say there is a leak of confidential or proprietary data a company may try to track down the source.
Bending the rules to get competitive data is relative. Maybe not tell someone you work for a competitor and just let them talk.
A finder's fee is a form informant.
An anonymous tip line is form of informant.
Group of informants is bit out there.
There are companies that (legally) mine competitive data. I guess you
could call them informants. You have like hedge fund managers that
will pay for an early copy of a report.Hire a girl to get data is way out there.
A more common attack would be network security breach. This could be
a competitor or just a hacker. This would be more common from a
country where patent laws are not enforced.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
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Do companies keep a network of informants at hand?
Not fulltime I would think, but in the tender business all sorts of underhand dealings go on, since a company only has one shot at winning what might be their main project for a while and invests heavily in trying to win or find any edge. This can easily amount to subverting a competitors staff member if possible.
So I assume the same could be true in other big companies. The bigger the company and the more money involved, the less morality and playing fair are serious factors.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
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But won't 'playing unfair' potentially lead to legal trouble?
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 8:44
@cst1992 name one big successful company who has never had legal issues...
– Kilisi
Mar 29 '16 at 8:48
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3 Answers
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active
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active
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up vote
7
down vote
It's never all that glamorous, but in any industry, keeping company confidential information protected isn't easy and is a big deal. Corporate espionage rarely involves:
- a good soundtrack
- great outfits
- very fit people who may also be able to whip out a song and dance number at a moment's notice
It can, however involve:
- people being fired for disregarding security policy
- companies losing money because their secrets were disclosed
- leaks coming both from personal connections between companies, and also overheard conversations that should never have been held off of company property
- social engineering hacks and other attacks that put intruders inside of company boundaries - both physical and digital
Do companies employ a whole separate division or similar of 'spies' to attack other companies? I have yet to see it. I have sat on proposals where we tried to "ghost" the other company (ie, build a proposal that is better than the competition that presupposes the moves that the other company will make) - this can be as clean and above board as simply looking for patterns in previous behavior, or as sneaky as using a collection of knowledge and insights that get into the range of "I don't want to know how you know that".
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
44.6k15100159
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
70.3k4136277
Not 'attack', just 'keep an eye on'. You know, kind of like an intelligence bureau.
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 5:26
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
7
down vote
It's never all that glamorous, but in any industry, keeping company confidential information protected isn't easy and is a big deal. Corporate espionage rarely involves:
- a good soundtrack
- great outfits
- very fit people who may also be able to whip out a song and dance number at a moment's notice
It can, however involve:
- people being fired for disregarding security policy
- companies losing money because their secrets were disclosed
- leaks coming both from personal connections between companies, and also overheard conversations that should never have been held off of company property
- social engineering hacks and other attacks that put intruders inside of company boundaries - both physical and digital
Do companies employ a whole separate division or similar of 'spies' to attack other companies? I have yet to see it. I have sat on proposals where we tried to "ghost" the other company (ie, build a proposal that is better than the competition that presupposes the moves that the other company will make) - this can be as clean and above board as simply looking for patterns in previous behavior, or as sneaky as using a collection of knowledge and insights that get into the range of "I don't want to know how you know that".
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
44.6k15100159
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
70.3k4136277
Not 'attack', just 'keep an eye on'. You know, kind of like an intelligence bureau.
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 5:26
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
7
down vote
up vote
7
down vote
It's never all that glamorous, but in any industry, keeping company confidential information protected isn't easy and is a big deal. Corporate espionage rarely involves:
- a good soundtrack
- great outfits
- very fit people who may also be able to whip out a song and dance number at a moment's notice
It can, however involve:
- people being fired for disregarding security policy
- companies losing money because their secrets were disclosed
- leaks coming both from personal connections between companies, and also overheard conversations that should never have been held off of company property
- social engineering hacks and other attacks that put intruders inside of company boundaries - both physical and digital
Do companies employ a whole separate division or similar of 'spies' to attack other companies? I have yet to see it. I have sat on proposals where we tried to "ghost" the other company (ie, build a proposal that is better than the competition that presupposes the moves that the other company will make) - this can be as clean and above board as simply looking for patterns in previous behavior, or as sneaky as using a collection of knowledge and insights that get into the range of "I don't want to know how you know that".
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
44.6k15100159
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
70.3k4136277
It's never all that glamorous, but in any industry, keeping company confidential information protected isn't easy and is a big deal. Corporate espionage rarely involves:
- a good soundtrack
- great outfits
- very fit people who may also be able to whip out a song and dance number at a moment's notice
It can, however involve:
- people being fired for disregarding security policy
- companies losing money because their secrets were disclosed
- leaks coming both from personal connections between companies, and also overheard conversations that should never have been held off of company property
- social engineering hacks and other attacks that put intruders inside of company boundaries - both physical and digital
Do companies employ a whole separate division or similar of 'spies' to attack other companies? I have yet to see it. I have sat on proposals where we tried to "ghost" the other company (ie, build a proposal that is better than the competition that presupposes the moves that the other company will make) - this can be as clean and above board as simply looking for patterns in previous behavior, or as sneaky as using a collection of knowledge and insights that get into the range of "I don't want to know how you know that".
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
44.6k15100159
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
70.3k4136277
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
44.6k15100159
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
44.6k15100159
edited Mar 29 '16 at 3:40
Wesley Long
44.6k15100159
44.6k15100159
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
70.3k4136277
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
70.3k4136277
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:04
bethlakshmi
70.3k4136277
70.3k4136277
Not 'attack', just 'keep an eye on'. You know, kind of like an intelligence bureau.
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 5:26
suggest improvements |Â
Not 'attack', just 'keep an eye on'. You know, kind of like an intelligence bureau.
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 5:26
Not 'attack', just 'keep an eye on'. You know, kind of like an intelligence bureau.
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 5:26
Not 'attack', just 'keep an eye on'. You know, kind of like an intelligence bureau.
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 5:26
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
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Any strategic planning group will evaluate competitors. A lot of information is available legal in the public domain.
Where you get into a bit of spy-craft
A company may put out some false information as unofficial
Let's say there is a leak of confidential or proprietary data a company may try to track down the source.
Bending the rules to get competitive data is relative. Maybe not tell someone you work for a competitor and just let them talk.
A finder's fee is a form informant.
An anonymous tip line is form of informant.
Group of informants is bit out there.
There are companies that (legally) mine competitive data. I guess you
could call them informants. You have like hedge fund managers that
will pay for an early copy of a report.Hire a girl to get data is way out there.
A more common attack would be network security breach. This could be
a competitor or just a hacker. This would be more common from a
country where patent laws are not enforced.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
Any strategic planning group will evaluate competitors. A lot of information is available legal in the public domain.
Where you get into a bit of spy-craft
A company may put out some false information as unofficial
Let's say there is a leak of confidential or proprietary data a company may try to track down the source.
Bending the rules to get competitive data is relative. Maybe not tell someone you work for a competitor and just let them talk.
A finder's fee is a form informant.
An anonymous tip line is form of informant.
Group of informants is bit out there.
There are companies that (legally) mine competitive data. I guess you
could call them informants. You have like hedge fund managers that
will pay for an early copy of a report.Hire a girl to get data is way out there.
A more common attack would be network security breach. This could be
a competitor or just a hacker. This would be more common from a
country where patent laws are not enforced.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Any strategic planning group will evaluate competitors. A lot of information is available legal in the public domain.
Where you get into a bit of spy-craft
A company may put out some false information as unofficial
Let's say there is a leak of confidential or proprietary data a company may try to track down the source.
Bending the rules to get competitive data is relative. Maybe not tell someone you work for a competitor and just let them talk.
A finder's fee is a form informant.
An anonymous tip line is form of informant.
Group of informants is bit out there.
There are companies that (legally) mine competitive data. I guess you
could call them informants. You have like hedge fund managers that
will pay for an early copy of a report.Hire a girl to get data is way out there.
A more common attack would be network security breach. This could be
a competitor or just a hacker. This would be more common from a
country where patent laws are not enforced.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
Any strategic planning group will evaluate competitors. A lot of information is available legal in the public domain.
Where you get into a bit of spy-craft
A company may put out some false information as unofficial
Let's say there is a leak of confidential or proprietary data a company may try to track down the source.
Bending the rules to get competitive data is relative. Maybe not tell someone you work for a competitor and just let them talk.
A finder's fee is a form informant.
An anonymous tip line is form of informant.
Group of informants is bit out there.
There are companies that (legally) mine competitive data. I guess you
could call them informants. You have like hedge fund managers that
will pay for an early copy of a report.Hire a girl to get data is way out there.
A more common attack would be network security breach. This could be
a competitor or just a hacker. This would be more common from a
country where patent laws are not enforced.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
edited Mar 28 '16 at 21:12
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
answered Mar 28 '16 at 21:00
paparazzo
33.3k657106
33.3k657106
suggest improvements |Â
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
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Do companies keep a network of informants at hand?
Not fulltime I would think, but in the tender business all sorts of underhand dealings go on, since a company only has one shot at winning what might be their main project for a while and invests heavily in trying to win or find any edge. This can easily amount to subverting a competitors staff member if possible.
So I assume the same could be true in other big companies. The bigger the company and the more money involved, the less morality and playing fair are serious factors.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
94.5k50216376
But won't 'playing unfair' potentially lead to legal trouble?
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 8:44
@cst1992 name one big successful company who has never had legal issues...
– Kilisi
Mar 29 '16 at 8:48
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
Do companies keep a network of informants at hand?
Not fulltime I would think, but in the tender business all sorts of underhand dealings go on, since a company only has one shot at winning what might be their main project for a while and invests heavily in trying to win or find any edge. This can easily amount to subverting a competitors staff member if possible.
So I assume the same could be true in other big companies. The bigger the company and the more money involved, the less morality and playing fair are serious factors.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
94.5k50216376
But won't 'playing unfair' potentially lead to legal trouble?
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 8:44
@cst1992 name one big successful company who has never had legal issues...
– Kilisi
Mar 29 '16 at 8:48
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
0
down vote
up vote
0
down vote
Do companies keep a network of informants at hand?
Not fulltime I would think, but in the tender business all sorts of underhand dealings go on, since a company only has one shot at winning what might be their main project for a while and invests heavily in trying to win or find any edge. This can easily amount to subverting a competitors staff member if possible.
So I assume the same could be true in other big companies. The bigger the company and the more money involved, the less morality and playing fair are serious factors.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
94.5k50216376
Do companies keep a network of informants at hand?
Not fulltime I would think, but in the tender business all sorts of underhand dealings go on, since a company only has one shot at winning what might be their main project for a while and invests heavily in trying to win or find any edge. This can easily amount to subverting a competitors staff member if possible.
So I assume the same could be true in other big companies. The bigger the company and the more money involved, the less morality and playing fair are serious factors.
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
94.5k50216376
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
94.5k50216376
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
94.5k50216376
answered Mar 28 '16 at 22:08
Kilisi
94.5k50216376
94.5k50216376
But won't 'playing unfair' potentially lead to legal trouble?
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 8:44
@cst1992 name one big successful company who has never had legal issues...
– Kilisi
Mar 29 '16 at 8:48
suggest improvements |Â
But won't 'playing unfair' potentially lead to legal trouble?
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 8:44
@cst1992 name one big successful company who has never had legal issues...
– Kilisi
Mar 29 '16 at 8:48
But won't 'playing unfair' potentially lead to legal trouble?
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 8:44
But won't 'playing unfair' potentially lead to legal trouble?
– cst1992
Mar 29 '16 at 8:44
@cst1992 name one big successful company who has never had legal issues...
– Kilisi
Mar 29 '16 at 8:48
@cst1992 name one big successful company who has never had legal issues...
– Kilisi
Mar 29 '16 at 8:48
suggest improvements |Â
3
Highly doubtful... But makes a good movie. Money, sex and conspiracy... best combination for Holly/Bollywood, but it stops there in y opinion.
– MelBurslan
Mar 28 '16 at 20:25
1
only in bollywood (although various state owned organizations in various countries have access to various data acquired through various illicit efforts).
– hownowbrowncow
Mar 28 '16 at 20:26
1
Not sure why this is getting close votes for being opinion based. Corporate espionage is a real thing and this is perfectly answerable and on-topic.
– Lilienthal♦
Mar 28 '16 at 22:11
Yes. usatoday30.usatoday.com/tech/news/…
– jimm101
Mar 28 '16 at 23:49
Anything goes. @jimm101 is right, the Chinese are practicing a lot of this stuff, and everybody else is doing the same.
– Deer Hunter
Mar 29 '16 at 1:51