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How can I break the ice to my present employer about a job offer from one of our competitors?
The company I work for is like family in fact my best friends spouse is the president who I need to talk to about this.
I feel they haven't treated my value with respect. There has been two employees they hired after me that they are paying more wages for the same job I'm doing.
job-offer negotiation
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How can I break the ice to my present employer about a job offer from one of our competitors?
The company I work for is like family in fact my best friends spouse is the president who I need to talk to about this.
I feel they haven't treated my value with respect. There has been two employees they hired after me that they are paying more wages for the same job I'm doing.
job-offer negotiation
edited Apr 6 '15 at 18:50
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asked Apr 5 '15 at 23:39
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marked as duplicate by gnat, yochannah, Philipp, Roger, Jenny D Apr 7 '15 at 13:17
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Are you sure there's nothing in your employment agreement/contract about working for a competitor. This is usually known as a Non-Compete clause, and is often upheld in court if the former employer wants to enforce it.
– Kent A.
Apr 6 '15 at 0:08
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@KentAnderson actually non competes are hard to enforce even where they are legal regardless of what the contract says - even more so for junior employees.
– Pepone
Apr 6 '15 at 0:27
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Clearly they do not treat you as friends.
– Jack
Apr 6 '15 at 0:58
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If there is no non-compete agreement, why do you have any obligation to tell them why you are resigning? Just hand in your resignation, serve your notice period, and get going.
– Masked Man♦
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
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Is there anything your company can do to make you stay, or are you for certain going to accept the offer?
– David K
Apr 6 '15 at 14:05
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How can I break the ice to my present employer about a job offer from one of our competitors?
The company I work for is like family in fact my best friends spouse is the president who I need to talk to about this.
I feel they haven't treated my value with respect. There has been two employees they hired after me that they are paying more wages for the same job I'm doing.
job-offer negotiation
edited Apr 6 '15 at 18:50
gnat
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asked Apr 5 '15 at 23:39
Jeff Stanley
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This question already has an answer here:
How to gracefully quit from a job/company I like (better offer elsewhere)?
2 answers
How can I break the ice to my present employer about a job offer from one of our competitors?
The company I work for is like family in fact my best friends spouse is the president who I need to talk to about this.
I feel they haven't treated my value with respect. There has been two employees they hired after me that they are paying more wages for the same job I'm doing.
This question already has an answer here:
How to gracefully quit from a job/company I like (better offer elsewhere)?
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job-offer negotiation
edited Apr 6 '15 at 18:50
gnat
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asked Apr 5 '15 at 23:39
Jeff Stanley
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edited Apr 6 '15 at 18:50
gnat
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edited Apr 6 '15 at 18:50
gnat
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edited Apr 6 '15 at 18:50
gnat
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asked Apr 5 '15 at 23:39
Jeff Stanley
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asked Apr 5 '15 at 23:39
Jeff Stanley
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asked Apr 5 '15 at 23:39
Jeff Stanley
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marked as duplicate by gnat, yochannah, Philipp, Roger, Jenny D Apr 7 '15 at 13:17
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marked as duplicate by gnat, yochannah, Philipp, Roger, Jenny D Apr 7 '15 at 13:17
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Are you sure there's nothing in your employment agreement/contract about working for a competitor. This is usually known as a Non-Compete clause, and is often upheld in court if the former employer wants to enforce it.
– Kent A.
Apr 6 '15 at 0:08
2
@KentAnderson actually non competes are hard to enforce even where they are legal regardless of what the contract says - even more so for junior employees.
– Pepone
Apr 6 '15 at 0:27
1
Clearly they do not treat you as friends.
– Jack
Apr 6 '15 at 0:58
2
If there is no non-compete agreement, why do you have any obligation to tell them why you are resigning? Just hand in your resignation, serve your notice period, and get going.
– Masked Man♦
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
1
Is there anything your company can do to make you stay, or are you for certain going to accept the offer?
– David K
Apr 6 '15 at 14:05
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Are you sure there's nothing in your employment agreement/contract about working for a competitor. This is usually known as a Non-Compete clause, and is often upheld in court if the former employer wants to enforce it.
– Kent A.
Apr 6 '15 at 0:08
2
@KentAnderson actually non competes are hard to enforce even where they are legal regardless of what the contract says - even more so for junior employees.
– Pepone
Apr 6 '15 at 0:27
1
Clearly they do not treat you as friends.
– Jack
Apr 6 '15 at 0:58
2
If there is no non-compete agreement, why do you have any obligation to tell them why you are resigning? Just hand in your resignation, serve your notice period, and get going.
– Masked Man♦
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
1
Is there anything your company can do to make you stay, or are you for certain going to accept the offer?
– David K
Apr 6 '15 at 14:05
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Are you sure there's nothing in your employment agreement/contract about working for a competitor. This is usually known as a Non-Compete clause, and is often upheld in court if the former employer wants to enforce it.
– Kent A.
Apr 6 '15 at 0:08
Are you sure there's nothing in your employment agreement/contract about working for a competitor. This is usually known as a Non-Compete clause, and is often upheld in court if the former employer wants to enforce it.
– Kent A.
Apr 6 '15 at 0:08
2
2
@KentAnderson actually non competes are hard to enforce even where they are legal regardless of what the contract says - even more so for junior employees.
– Pepone
Apr 6 '15 at 0:27
@KentAnderson actually non competes are hard to enforce even where they are legal regardless of what the contract says - even more so for junior employees.
– Pepone
Apr 6 '15 at 0:27
1
1
Clearly they do not treat you as friends.
– Jack
Apr 6 '15 at 0:58
Clearly they do not treat you as friends.
– Jack
Apr 6 '15 at 0:58
2
2
If there is no non-compete agreement, why do you have any obligation to tell them why you are resigning? Just hand in your resignation, serve your notice period, and get going.
– Masked Man♦
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
If there is no non-compete agreement, why do you have any obligation to tell them why you are resigning? Just hand in your resignation, serve your notice period, and get going.
– Masked Man♦
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
1
1
Is there anything your company can do to make you stay, or are you for certain going to accept the offer?
– David K
Apr 6 '15 at 14:05
Is there anything your company can do to make you stay, or are you for certain going to accept the offer?
– David K
Apr 6 '15 at 14:05
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Your colleagues are not treating you as family.
They are running a business and set compensations accordingly.
Be professional, run a business talk about business. Take the best offer for yourself and your family, find a place where you are valued.
On the personal side : Are you sure the family feeling is mutual? Or is it just you who still sees this as family? Are you sure it is not better to break the bonds even if it hurts now? It usually is, I've seen countless examples.
answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
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"Morover they are unfair as business people." Care to elaborate on that statement? The question, as worded, does not seem to indicate this. There are numerous reasons for wage differences in similar positions.
– Celos
Apr 6 '15 at 13:34
@celos you are right I made a judgement, that was subjective, I deleted it.
– Mark
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
The question is about how to break the news to his employer, not whether he should accept the other job. I agree with your statements.
– Jeremy Nottingham
Apr 6 '15 at 16:00
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Sometimes the "family" dynamic works out well and sometimes it doesn't. In your case it doesn't. You obviously can't talk to your boss about a regrading or raise. It could possibly have to do with not wanting to cause tension in the family.
The best thing to do would move out. I would just be honest and say that you got a better job with more pay at the competitor. You really liked working for them and hope your paths cross again. Maybe they will but the dynamic won't permanently change unless you leave.
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Your colleagues are not treating you as family.
They are running a business and set compensations accordingly.
Be professional, run a business talk about business. Take the best offer for yourself and your family, find a place where you are valued.
On the personal side : Are you sure the family feeling is mutual? Or is it just you who still sees this as family? Are you sure it is not better to break the bonds even if it hurts now? It usually is, I've seen countless examples.
answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
1,7991612
"Morover they are unfair as business people." Care to elaborate on that statement? The question, as worded, does not seem to indicate this. There are numerous reasons for wage differences in similar positions.
– Celos
Apr 6 '15 at 13:34
@celos you are right I made a judgement, that was subjective, I deleted it.
– Mark
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
The question is about how to break the news to his employer, not whether he should accept the other job. I agree with your statements.
– Jeremy Nottingham
Apr 6 '15 at 16:00
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
4
down vote
Your colleagues are not treating you as family.
They are running a business and set compensations accordingly.
Be professional, run a business talk about business. Take the best offer for yourself and your family, find a place where you are valued.
On the personal side : Are you sure the family feeling is mutual? Or is it just you who still sees this as family? Are you sure it is not better to break the bonds even if it hurts now? It usually is, I've seen countless examples.
answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
1,7991612
"Morover they are unfair as business people." Care to elaborate on that statement? The question, as worded, does not seem to indicate this. There are numerous reasons for wage differences in similar positions.
– Celos
Apr 6 '15 at 13:34
@celos you are right I made a judgement, that was subjective, I deleted it.
– Mark
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
The question is about how to break the news to his employer, not whether he should accept the other job. I agree with your statements.
– Jeremy Nottingham
Apr 6 '15 at 16:00
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
4
down vote
up vote
4
down vote
Your colleagues are not treating you as family.
They are running a business and set compensations accordingly.
Be professional, run a business talk about business. Take the best offer for yourself and your family, find a place where you are valued.
On the personal side : Are you sure the family feeling is mutual? Or is it just you who still sees this as family? Are you sure it is not better to break the bonds even if it hurts now? It usually is, I've seen countless examples.
answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
1,7991612
Your colleagues are not treating you as family.
They are running a business and set compensations accordingly.
Be professional, run a business talk about business. Take the best offer for yourself and your family, find a place where you are valued.
On the personal side : Are you sure the family feeling is mutual? Or is it just you who still sees this as family? Are you sure it is not better to break the bonds even if it hurts now? It usually is, I've seen countless examples.
answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
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edited Apr 6 '15 at 13:44
answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
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answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
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answered Apr 6 '15 at 6:10
Mark
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1,7991612
"Morover they are unfair as business people." Care to elaborate on that statement? The question, as worded, does not seem to indicate this. There are numerous reasons for wage differences in similar positions.
– Celos
Apr 6 '15 at 13:34
@celos you are right I made a judgement, that was subjective, I deleted it.
– Mark
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
The question is about how to break the news to his employer, not whether he should accept the other job. I agree with your statements.
– Jeremy Nottingham
Apr 6 '15 at 16:00
suggest improvements |Â
"Morover they are unfair as business people." Care to elaborate on that statement? The question, as worded, does not seem to indicate this. There are numerous reasons for wage differences in similar positions.
– Celos
Apr 6 '15 at 13:34
@celos you are right I made a judgement, that was subjective, I deleted it.
– Mark
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
The question is about how to break the news to his employer, not whether he should accept the other job. I agree with your statements.
– Jeremy Nottingham
Apr 6 '15 at 16:00
"Morover they are unfair as business people." Care to elaborate on that statement? The question, as worded, does not seem to indicate this. There are numerous reasons for wage differences in similar positions.
– Celos
Apr 6 '15 at 13:34
"Morover they are unfair as business people." Care to elaborate on that statement? The question, as worded, does not seem to indicate this. There are numerous reasons for wage differences in similar positions.
– Celos
Apr 6 '15 at 13:34
@celos you are right I made a judgement, that was subjective, I deleted it.
– Mark
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
@celos you are right I made a judgement, that was subjective, I deleted it.
– Mark
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
The question is about how to break the news to his employer, not whether he should accept the other job. I agree with your statements.
– Jeremy Nottingham
Apr 6 '15 at 16:00
The question is about how to break the news to his employer, not whether he should accept the other job. I agree with your statements.
– Jeremy Nottingham
Apr 6 '15 at 16:00
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Sometimes the "family" dynamic works out well and sometimes it doesn't. In your case it doesn't. You obviously can't talk to your boss about a regrading or raise. It could possibly have to do with not wanting to cause tension in the family.
The best thing to do would move out. I would just be honest and say that you got a better job with more pay at the competitor. You really liked working for them and hope your paths cross again. Maybe they will but the dynamic won't permanently change unless you leave.
answered Apr 7 '15 at 6:21
blankip
19.9k74781
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
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Sometimes the "family" dynamic works out well and sometimes it doesn't. In your case it doesn't. You obviously can't talk to your boss about a regrading or raise. It could possibly have to do with not wanting to cause tension in the family.
The best thing to do would move out. I would just be honest and say that you got a better job with more pay at the competitor. You really liked working for them and hope your paths cross again. Maybe they will but the dynamic won't permanently change unless you leave.
answered Apr 7 '15 at 6:21
blankip
19.9k74781
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
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up vote
1
down vote
Sometimes the "family" dynamic works out well and sometimes it doesn't. In your case it doesn't. You obviously can't talk to your boss about a regrading or raise. It could possibly have to do with not wanting to cause tension in the family.
The best thing to do would move out. I would just be honest and say that you got a better job with more pay at the competitor. You really liked working for them and hope your paths cross again. Maybe they will but the dynamic won't permanently change unless you leave.
answered Apr 7 '15 at 6:21
blankip
19.9k74781
Sometimes the "family" dynamic works out well and sometimes it doesn't. In your case it doesn't. You obviously can't talk to your boss about a regrading or raise. It could possibly have to do with not wanting to cause tension in the family.
The best thing to do would move out. I would just be honest and say that you got a better job with more pay at the competitor. You really liked working for them and hope your paths cross again. Maybe they will but the dynamic won't permanently change unless you leave.
answered Apr 7 '15 at 6:21
blankip
19.9k74781
answered Apr 7 '15 at 6:21
blankip
19.9k74781
answered Apr 7 '15 at 6:21
blankip
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answered Apr 7 '15 at 6:21
blankip
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Are you sure there's nothing in your employment agreement/contract about working for a competitor. This is usually known as a Non-Compete clause, and is often upheld in court if the former employer wants to enforce it.
– Kent A.
Apr 6 '15 at 0:08
2
@KentAnderson actually non competes are hard to enforce even where they are legal regardless of what the contract says - even more so for junior employees.
– Pepone
Apr 6 '15 at 0:27
1
Clearly they do not treat you as friends.
– Jack
Apr 6 '15 at 0:58
2
If there is no non-compete agreement, why do you have any obligation to tell them why you are resigning? Just hand in your resignation, serve your notice period, and get going.
– Masked Man♦
Apr 6 '15 at 13:46
1
Is there anything your company can do to make you stay, or are you for certain going to accept the offer?
– David K
Apr 6 '15 at 14:05