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I've signed a contract with a company, but said company has not signed the contract themselves to confirm that I'll be hired (I'm going through background checks at the moment).
I have been asked to interview with another company, B. Am I acting in an unprofessional way if I accept B's offer?
I've looked at this, and it's similar but not the same.
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I've signed a contract with a company, but said company has not signed the contract themselves to confirm that I'll be hired (I'm going through background checks at the moment).
I have been asked to interview with another company, B. Am I acting in an unprofessional way if I accept B's offer?
I've looked at this, and it's similar but not the same.
job-offer
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
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asked Mar 4 '15 at 0:24
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Why would you decline an offer if you only have an interview? Why not wait till you have another offer?
– Ramhound
Mar 4 '15 at 2:39
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Never, ever, ever sign something that isn't being countersigned at the same time. Learned that one the hard way.
– Wesley Long
Mar 4 '15 at 3:00
@JoeStrazzere: You may or may not have a valid point - OP left out how much time has passed. It's unprofessional to withdraw the offer in 24 hours, but perfectly reasonable after 24 days.
– MSalters
Sep 21 '15 at 16:07
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I've signed a contract with a company, but said company has not signed the contract themselves to confirm that I'll be hired (I'm going through background checks at the moment).
I have been asked to interview with another company, B. Am I acting in an unprofessional way if I accept B's offer?
I've looked at this, and it's similar but not the same.
job-offer
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
1
asked Mar 4 '15 at 0:24
Twilight Sparkle
1324
I've signed a contract with a company, but said company has not signed the contract themselves to confirm that I'll be hired (I'm going through background checks at the moment).
I have been asked to interview with another company, B. Am I acting in an unprofessional way if I accept B's offer?
I've looked at this, and it's similar but not the same.
job-offer
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
1
asked Mar 4 '15 at 0:24
Twilight Sparkle
1324
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
1
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
1
edited Apr 13 '17 at 12:48
Community♦
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1
asked Mar 4 '15 at 0:24
Twilight Sparkle
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asked Mar 4 '15 at 0:24
Twilight Sparkle
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asked Mar 4 '15 at 0:24
Twilight Sparkle
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1324
Why would you decline an offer if you only have an interview? Why not wait till you have another offer?
– Ramhound
Mar 4 '15 at 2:39
8
Never, ever, ever sign something that isn't being countersigned at the same time. Learned that one the hard way.
– Wesley Long
Mar 4 '15 at 3:00
@JoeStrazzere: You may or may not have a valid point - OP left out how much time has passed. It's unprofessional to withdraw the offer in 24 hours, but perfectly reasonable after 24 days.
– MSalters
Sep 21 '15 at 16:07
suggest improvements |Â
Why would you decline an offer if you only have an interview? Why not wait till you have another offer?
– Ramhound
Mar 4 '15 at 2:39
8
Never, ever, ever sign something that isn't being countersigned at the same time. Learned that one the hard way.
– Wesley Long
Mar 4 '15 at 3:00
@JoeStrazzere: You may or may not have a valid point - OP left out how much time has passed. It's unprofessional to withdraw the offer in 24 hours, but perfectly reasonable after 24 days.
– MSalters
Sep 21 '15 at 16:07
Why would you decline an offer if you only have an interview? Why not wait till you have another offer?
– Ramhound
Mar 4 '15 at 2:39
Why would you decline an offer if you only have an interview? Why not wait till you have another offer?
– Ramhound
Mar 4 '15 at 2:39
8
8
Never, ever, ever sign something that isn't being countersigned at the same time. Learned that one the hard way.
– Wesley Long
Mar 4 '15 at 3:00
Never, ever, ever sign something that isn't being countersigned at the same time. Learned that one the hard way.
– Wesley Long
Mar 4 '15 at 3:00
@JoeStrazzere: You may or may not have a valid point - OP left out how much time has passed. It's unprofessional to withdraw the offer in 24 hours, but perfectly reasonable after 24 days.
– MSalters
Sep 21 '15 at 16:07
@JoeStrazzere: You may or may not have a valid point - OP left out how much time has passed. It's unprofessional to withdraw the offer in 24 hours, but perfectly reasonable after 24 days.
– MSalters
Sep 21 '15 at 16:07
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From a legal point of view:
In a contract between two businesses, if only one side signs, parts of it may still be enforceable: http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-contract-valid-if-only-one-of-the-two-parties-423043.html
However if you are being hired to be an employee, then in fact most of the power rests with you, not the employer. Employment law usually dramatically favours the employee not the employer. So there's really no legal problem with declining the job.
From a professionalism point of view:
Since company A has not yet said that they'll hire you, then you don't have a contract yet. You have offered to work for them, but they have not yet accepted. Offer typically have a time limit expressly or implied. If you want to display exemplary professionalism then tell Company A that they have a certain amount of time to make up their mind otherwise you are withdrawing your offer to work for them.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
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It's worth noting that even once they've signed the contract, you can still leave under the terms of the contract... They don't get your soul, just a contracted notice period
– Jon Story
Mar 4 '15 at 22:58
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Because you don't have a signed offer back from Company A, you should continue to apply for other positions, and even go on interviews. Until Company A accepts your offer, you still don't have a job.
Applying for a position, and even going on interviews is not a commitment to a company. You are hedging your bets in case the expected position with company A falls apart in the next few days. Imagine if you turned down scheduling an interview, and withdrew all outstanding applications; only to get word from company A that they will not be able to start you for 90 more days because a customer has delayed the contract. You would have to re-start your job search from scratch.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
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Another way to look at it is to see what would happen if the contract was valid.
If they hire you and you simply don't show up, normally they won't be able to claim damages, but they will fire you pretty quickly. Depending on the country you're in and the excuses you come up with, they might still have to pay you up to a month's salary for not showing up. This is the worst case scenario for the company.
Because of this worst case scenario, a company will not enforce a contract unless the contract you signed includes no show penalties - but I can't think of any such example, except for contractors. Normally if you tell a company you want to annul an employment contract before it started, even if both parties already signed it, it's in the company's own best interest to let you go.
On the topic of professionalism: Looking out for your career is professional, although it's not always nice, and not always ethical. The people who wanted to hire you might be disappointed with your actions, and file you under "don't ever make an offer to this guy again". Anyone else won't hear about the story, and even if they do they most likely won't care.
answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
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"normally they won't be able to claim damages" - No. Normally they are able to claim damages, but usually won't do it. The default of any contract is: If you don't honor it, you pay the damage.
– John Hammond
Sep 21 '15 at 10:50
To claim damage you need to prove actual damages, and you need a valid contract with a liability clause that's legal in the applicable jurisdiction. So normally an employer can't claim damages from an employee if the employee doesn't show up, and in some cases they can't even dock the pay. Unless you mean in the sense that everyone can send anyone a bill which has no legal basis.
– Peter
Sep 21 '15 at 10:59
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3 Answers
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3 Answers
3
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
From a legal point of view:
In a contract between two businesses, if only one side signs, parts of it may still be enforceable: http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-contract-valid-if-only-one-of-the-two-parties-423043.html
However if you are being hired to be an employee, then in fact most of the power rests with you, not the employer. Employment law usually dramatically favours the employee not the employer. So there's really no legal problem with declining the job.
From a professionalism point of view:
Since company A has not yet said that they'll hire you, then you don't have a contract yet. You have offered to work for them, but they have not yet accepted. Offer typically have a time limit expressly or implied. If you want to display exemplary professionalism then tell Company A that they have a certain amount of time to make up their mind otherwise you are withdrawing your offer to work for them.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
1263
4
It's worth noting that even once they've signed the contract, you can still leave under the terms of the contract... They don't get your soul, just a contracted notice period
– Jon Story
Mar 4 '15 at 22:58
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
From a legal point of view:
In a contract between two businesses, if only one side signs, parts of it may still be enforceable: http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-contract-valid-if-only-one-of-the-two-parties-423043.html
However if you are being hired to be an employee, then in fact most of the power rests with you, not the employer. Employment law usually dramatically favours the employee not the employer. So there's really no legal problem with declining the job.
From a professionalism point of view:
Since company A has not yet said that they'll hire you, then you don't have a contract yet. You have offered to work for them, but they have not yet accepted. Offer typically have a time limit expressly or implied. If you want to display exemplary professionalism then tell Company A that they have a certain amount of time to make up their mind otherwise you are withdrawing your offer to work for them.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
1263
4
It's worth noting that even once they've signed the contract, you can still leave under the terms of the contract... They don't get your soul, just a contracted notice period
– Jon Story
Mar 4 '15 at 22:58
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
From a legal point of view:
In a contract between two businesses, if only one side signs, parts of it may still be enforceable: http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-contract-valid-if-only-one-of-the-two-parties-423043.html
However if you are being hired to be an employee, then in fact most of the power rests with you, not the employer. Employment law usually dramatically favours the employee not the employer. So there's really no legal problem with declining the job.
From a professionalism point of view:
Since company A has not yet said that they'll hire you, then you don't have a contract yet. You have offered to work for them, but they have not yet accepted. Offer typically have a time limit expressly or implied. If you want to display exemplary professionalism then tell Company A that they have a certain amount of time to make up their mind otherwise you are withdrawing your offer to work for them.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
1263
From a legal point of view:
In a contract between two businesses, if only one side signs, parts of it may still be enforceable: http://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/is-a-contract-valid-if-only-one-of-the-two-parties-423043.html
However if you are being hired to be an employee, then in fact most of the power rests with you, not the employer. Employment law usually dramatically favours the employee not the employer. So there's really no legal problem with declining the job.
From a professionalism point of view:
Since company A has not yet said that they'll hire you, then you don't have a contract yet. You have offered to work for them, but they have not yet accepted. Offer typically have a time limit expressly or implied. If you want to display exemplary professionalism then tell Company A that they have a certain amount of time to make up their mind otherwise you are withdrawing your offer to work for them.
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
1263
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
1263
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
1263
answered Mar 4 '15 at 19:25
Simon Woodside
1263
1263
4
It's worth noting that even once they've signed the contract, you can still leave under the terms of the contract... They don't get your soul, just a contracted notice period
– Jon Story
Mar 4 '15 at 22:58
suggest improvements |Â
4
It's worth noting that even once they've signed the contract, you can still leave under the terms of the contract... They don't get your soul, just a contracted notice period
– Jon Story
Mar 4 '15 at 22:58
4
4
It's worth noting that even once they've signed the contract, you can still leave under the terms of the contract... They don't get your soul, just a contracted notice period
– Jon Story
Mar 4 '15 at 22:58
It's worth noting that even once they've signed the contract, you can still leave under the terms of the contract... They don't get your soul, just a contracted notice period
– Jon Story
Mar 4 '15 at 22:58
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Because you don't have a signed offer back from Company A, you should continue to apply for other positions, and even go on interviews. Until Company A accepts your offer, you still don't have a job.
Applying for a position, and even going on interviews is not a commitment to a company. You are hedging your bets in case the expected position with company A falls apart in the next few days. Imagine if you turned down scheduling an interview, and withdrew all outstanding applications; only to get word from company A that they will not be able to start you for 90 more days because a customer has delayed the contract. You would have to re-start your job search from scratch.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
mhoran_psprep
40.3k462144
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
Because you don't have a signed offer back from Company A, you should continue to apply for other positions, and even go on interviews. Until Company A accepts your offer, you still don't have a job.
Applying for a position, and even going on interviews is not a commitment to a company. You are hedging your bets in case the expected position with company A falls apart in the next few days. Imagine if you turned down scheduling an interview, and withdrew all outstanding applications; only to get word from company A that they will not be able to start you for 90 more days because a customer has delayed the contract. You would have to re-start your job search from scratch.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
mhoran_psprep
40.3k462144
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
2
down vote
up vote
2
down vote
Because you don't have a signed offer back from Company A, you should continue to apply for other positions, and even go on interviews. Until Company A accepts your offer, you still don't have a job.
Applying for a position, and even going on interviews is not a commitment to a company. You are hedging your bets in case the expected position with company A falls apart in the next few days. Imagine if you turned down scheduling an interview, and withdrew all outstanding applications; only to get word from company A that they will not be able to start you for 90 more days because a customer has delayed the contract. You would have to re-start your job search from scratch.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
mhoran_psprep
40.3k462144
Because you don't have a signed offer back from Company A, you should continue to apply for other positions, and even go on interviews. Until Company A accepts your offer, you still don't have a job.
Applying for a position, and even going on interviews is not a commitment to a company. You are hedging your bets in case the expected position with company A falls apart in the next few days. Imagine if you turned down scheduling an interview, and withdrew all outstanding applications; only to get word from company A that they will not be able to start you for 90 more days because a customer has delayed the contract. You would have to re-start your job search from scratch.
answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
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answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
mhoran_psprep
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answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
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answered Mar 5 '15 at 12:58
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Another way to look at it is to see what would happen if the contract was valid.
If they hire you and you simply don't show up, normally they won't be able to claim damages, but they will fire you pretty quickly. Depending on the country you're in and the excuses you come up with, they might still have to pay you up to a month's salary for not showing up. This is the worst case scenario for the company.
Because of this worst case scenario, a company will not enforce a contract unless the contract you signed includes no show penalties - but I can't think of any such example, except for contractors. Normally if you tell a company you want to annul an employment contract before it started, even if both parties already signed it, it's in the company's own best interest to let you go.
On the topic of professionalism: Looking out for your career is professional, although it's not always nice, and not always ethical. The people who wanted to hire you might be disappointed with your actions, and file you under "don't ever make an offer to this guy again". Anyone else won't hear about the story, and even if they do they most likely won't care.
answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
10.3k11835
"normally they won't be able to claim damages" - No. Normally they are able to claim damages, but usually won't do it. The default of any contract is: If you don't honor it, you pay the damage.
– John Hammond
Sep 21 '15 at 10:50
To claim damage you need to prove actual damages, and you need a valid contract with a liability clause that's legal in the applicable jurisdiction. So normally an employer can't claim damages from an employee if the employee doesn't show up, and in some cases they can't even dock the pay. Unless you mean in the sense that everyone can send anyone a bill which has no legal basis.
– Peter
Sep 21 '15 at 10:59
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
Another way to look at it is to see what would happen if the contract was valid.
If they hire you and you simply don't show up, normally they won't be able to claim damages, but they will fire you pretty quickly. Depending on the country you're in and the excuses you come up with, they might still have to pay you up to a month's salary for not showing up. This is the worst case scenario for the company.
Because of this worst case scenario, a company will not enforce a contract unless the contract you signed includes no show penalties - but I can't think of any such example, except for contractors. Normally if you tell a company you want to annul an employment contract before it started, even if both parties already signed it, it's in the company's own best interest to let you go.
On the topic of professionalism: Looking out for your career is professional, although it's not always nice, and not always ethical. The people who wanted to hire you might be disappointed with your actions, and file you under "don't ever make an offer to this guy again". Anyone else won't hear about the story, and even if they do they most likely won't care.
answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
10.3k11835
"normally they won't be able to claim damages" - No. Normally they are able to claim damages, but usually won't do it. The default of any contract is: If you don't honor it, you pay the damage.
– John Hammond
Sep 21 '15 at 10:50
To claim damage you need to prove actual damages, and you need a valid contract with a liability clause that's legal in the applicable jurisdiction. So normally an employer can't claim damages from an employee if the employee doesn't show up, and in some cases they can't even dock the pay. Unless you mean in the sense that everyone can send anyone a bill which has no legal basis.
– Peter
Sep 21 '15 at 10:59
suggest improvements |Â
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
Another way to look at it is to see what would happen if the contract was valid.
If they hire you and you simply don't show up, normally they won't be able to claim damages, but they will fire you pretty quickly. Depending on the country you're in and the excuses you come up with, they might still have to pay you up to a month's salary for not showing up. This is the worst case scenario for the company.
Because of this worst case scenario, a company will not enforce a contract unless the contract you signed includes no show penalties - but I can't think of any such example, except for contractors. Normally if you tell a company you want to annul an employment contract before it started, even if both parties already signed it, it's in the company's own best interest to let you go.
On the topic of professionalism: Looking out for your career is professional, although it's not always nice, and not always ethical. The people who wanted to hire you might be disappointed with your actions, and file you under "don't ever make an offer to this guy again". Anyone else won't hear about the story, and even if they do they most likely won't care.
answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
10.3k11835
Another way to look at it is to see what would happen if the contract was valid.
If they hire you and you simply don't show up, normally they won't be able to claim damages, but they will fire you pretty quickly. Depending on the country you're in and the excuses you come up with, they might still have to pay you up to a month's salary for not showing up. This is the worst case scenario for the company.
Because of this worst case scenario, a company will not enforce a contract unless the contract you signed includes no show penalties - but I can't think of any such example, except for contractors. Normally if you tell a company you want to annul an employment contract before it started, even if both parties already signed it, it's in the company's own best interest to let you go.
On the topic of professionalism: Looking out for your career is professional, although it's not always nice, and not always ethical. The people who wanted to hire you might be disappointed with your actions, and file you under "don't ever make an offer to this guy again". Anyone else won't hear about the story, and even if they do they most likely won't care.
answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
10.3k11835
answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
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answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
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answered Sep 21 '15 at 8:40
Peter
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"normally they won't be able to claim damages" - No. Normally they are able to claim damages, but usually won't do it. The default of any contract is: If you don't honor it, you pay the damage.
– John Hammond
Sep 21 '15 at 10:50
To claim damage you need to prove actual damages, and you need a valid contract with a liability clause that's legal in the applicable jurisdiction. So normally an employer can't claim damages from an employee if the employee doesn't show up, and in some cases they can't even dock the pay. Unless you mean in the sense that everyone can send anyone a bill which has no legal basis.
– Peter
Sep 21 '15 at 10:59
suggest improvements |Â
"normally they won't be able to claim damages" - No. Normally they are able to claim damages, but usually won't do it. The default of any contract is: If you don't honor it, you pay the damage.
– John Hammond
Sep 21 '15 at 10:50
To claim damage you need to prove actual damages, and you need a valid contract with a liability clause that's legal in the applicable jurisdiction. So normally an employer can't claim damages from an employee if the employee doesn't show up, and in some cases they can't even dock the pay. Unless you mean in the sense that everyone can send anyone a bill which has no legal basis.
– Peter
Sep 21 '15 at 10:59
"normally they won't be able to claim damages" - No. Normally they are able to claim damages, but usually won't do it. The default of any contract is: If you don't honor it, you pay the damage.
– John Hammond
Sep 21 '15 at 10:50
"normally they won't be able to claim damages" - No. Normally they are able to claim damages, but usually won't do it. The default of any contract is: If you don't honor it, you pay the damage.
– John Hammond
Sep 21 '15 at 10:50
To claim damage you need to prove actual damages, and you need a valid contract with a liability clause that's legal in the applicable jurisdiction. So normally an employer can't claim damages from an employee if the employee doesn't show up, and in some cases they can't even dock the pay. Unless you mean in the sense that everyone can send anyone a bill which has no legal basis.
– Peter
Sep 21 '15 at 10:59
To claim damage you need to prove actual damages, and you need a valid contract with a liability clause that's legal in the applicable jurisdiction. So normally an employer can't claim damages from an employee if the employee doesn't show up, and in some cases they can't even dock the pay. Unless you mean in the sense that everyone can send anyone a bill which has no legal basis.
– Peter
Sep 21 '15 at 10:59
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Why would you decline an offer if you only have an interview? Why not wait till you have another offer?
– Ramhound
Mar 4 '15 at 2:39
8
Never, ever, ever sign something that isn't being countersigned at the same time. Learned that one the hard way.
– Wesley Long
Mar 4 '15 at 3:00
@JoeStrazzere: You may or may not have a valid point - OP left out how much time has passed. It's unprofessional to withdraw the offer in 24 hours, but perfectly reasonable after 24 days.
– MSalters
Sep 21 '15 at 16:07