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I periodically catch up with a group of ex-colleagues for a meal, and with one of the birthdays coming up, I was approached by one of them personally via WhatsApp to ask if I would like to contribute to a group gift. I mentioned to "count me out for the gift", but probably due to some error in question, I am now asked to pay for the gift bought by another member. We will be meeting up this weekend for a meal, and I believe the gift would be presented to the birthday member.



Two questions are on my mind now:



  1. How do I politely decline to pay for the gift which I had explicitly mentioned that I would not be chipping in for?

  2. How do I deal with such awkward social situations (i.e Would it be better to not attend the meal gathering this weekend)?






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closed as off-topic by DJClayworth, Dawny33, AndreiROM, gnat, Jim G. Jan 8 '16 at 3:08


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  • "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – AndreiROM, gnat
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    Break out the wallet and make it rain.
    – Pequod
    Jan 5 '16 at 11:46






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    i think what to do depends on why you didn't want to contribute. Do you strongly dislike the birthday celebrant? disapprove of birthday presents? find yourself unable to afford the contribution? You have options including paying anyway, declining again, and changing your mind about attending. Which to choose depends on your situation so please add details to your question.
    – Kate Gregory
    Jan 5 '16 at 12:03






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    @DanShaffer 25$ for the boss? I would be annoyed with just 5$, 25 would probably be a hill I'd be willing to die on.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:25






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    @thursdaysgeek I don't think that's true in all cases. Say the boss has just campaigned really hard and got all of your team 20% raises, you don't think that's worth a gift from the team as a thank you? Certainly it's not something the boss should expect, but is it wrong to do so as a show of appreciation? Personally I don't think so.
    – Kialandei
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:55






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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it doesn't appear to be about the workplace.
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I periodically catch up with a group of ex-colleagues for a meal, and with one of the birthdays coming up, I was approached by one of them personally via WhatsApp to ask if I would like to contribute to a group gift. I mentioned to "count me out for the gift", but probably due to some error in question, I am now asked to pay for the gift bought by another member. We will be meeting up this weekend for a meal, and I believe the gift would be presented to the birthday member.



Two questions are on my mind now:



  1. How do I politely decline to pay for the gift which I had explicitly mentioned that I would not be chipping in for?

  2. How do I deal with such awkward social situations (i.e Would it be better to not attend the meal gathering this weekend)?






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closed as off-topic by DJClayworth, Dawny33, AndreiROM, gnat, Jim G. Jan 8 '16 at 3:08


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  • "Questions asking for advice on what to do are not practical answerable questions (e.g. "what job should I take?", or "what skills should I learn?"). Questions should get answers explaining why and how to make a decision, not advice on what to do. For more information, click here." – AndreiROM, gnat
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    Break out the wallet and make it rain.
    – Pequod
    Jan 5 '16 at 11:46






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    i think what to do depends on why you didn't want to contribute. Do you strongly dislike the birthday celebrant? disapprove of birthday presents? find yourself unable to afford the contribution? You have options including paying anyway, declining again, and changing your mind about attending. Which to choose depends on your situation so please add details to your question.
    – Kate Gregory
    Jan 5 '16 at 12:03






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    @DanShaffer 25$ for the boss? I would be annoyed with just 5$, 25 would probably be a hill I'd be willing to die on.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:25






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    @thursdaysgeek I don't think that's true in all cases. Say the boss has just campaigned really hard and got all of your team 20% raises, you don't think that's worth a gift from the team as a thank you? Certainly it's not something the boss should expect, but is it wrong to do so as a show of appreciation? Personally I don't think so.
    – Kialandei
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:55






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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it doesn't appear to be about the workplace.
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I periodically catch up with a group of ex-colleagues for a meal, and with one of the birthdays coming up, I was approached by one of them personally via WhatsApp to ask if I would like to contribute to a group gift. I mentioned to "count me out for the gift", but probably due to some error in question, I am now asked to pay for the gift bought by another member. We will be meeting up this weekend for a meal, and I believe the gift would be presented to the birthday member.



Two questions are on my mind now:



  1. How do I politely decline to pay for the gift which I had explicitly mentioned that I would not be chipping in for?

  2. How do I deal with such awkward social situations (i.e Would it be better to not attend the meal gathering this weekend)?






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I periodically catch up with a group of ex-colleagues for a meal, and with one of the birthdays coming up, I was approached by one of them personally via WhatsApp to ask if I would like to contribute to a group gift. I mentioned to "count me out for the gift", but probably due to some error in question, I am now asked to pay for the gift bought by another member. We will be meeting up this weekend for a meal, and I believe the gift would be presented to the birthday member.



Two questions are on my mind now:



  1. How do I politely decline to pay for the gift which I had explicitly mentioned that I would not be chipping in for?

  2. How do I deal with such awkward social situations (i.e Would it be better to not attend the meal gathering this weekend)?








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closed as off-topic by DJClayworth, Dawny33, AndreiROM, gnat, Jim G. Jan 8 '16 at 3:08


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    Break out the wallet and make it rain.
    – Pequod
    Jan 5 '16 at 11:46






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    i think what to do depends on why you didn't want to contribute. Do you strongly dislike the birthday celebrant? disapprove of birthday presents? find yourself unable to afford the contribution? You have options including paying anyway, declining again, and changing your mind about attending. Which to choose depends on your situation so please add details to your question.
    – Kate Gregory
    Jan 5 '16 at 12:03






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    @DanShaffer 25$ for the boss? I would be annoyed with just 5$, 25 would probably be a hill I'd be willing to die on.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:25






  • 4




    @thursdaysgeek I don't think that's true in all cases. Say the boss has just campaigned really hard and got all of your team 20% raises, you don't think that's worth a gift from the team as a thank you? Certainly it's not something the boss should expect, but is it wrong to do so as a show of appreciation? Personally I don't think so.
    – Kialandei
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:55






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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it doesn't appear to be about the workplace.
    – DJClayworth
    Jan 5 '16 at 23:09












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    Break out the wallet and make it rain.
    – Pequod
    Jan 5 '16 at 11:46






  • 9




    i think what to do depends on why you didn't want to contribute. Do you strongly dislike the birthday celebrant? disapprove of birthday presents? find yourself unable to afford the contribution? You have options including paying anyway, declining again, and changing your mind about attending. Which to choose depends on your situation so please add details to your question.
    – Kate Gregory
    Jan 5 '16 at 12:03






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    @DanShaffer 25$ for the boss? I would be annoyed with just 5$, 25 would probably be a hill I'd be willing to die on.
    – Lilienthal♦
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:25






  • 4




    @thursdaysgeek I don't think that's true in all cases. Say the boss has just campaigned really hard and got all of your team 20% raises, you don't think that's worth a gift from the team as a thank you? Certainly it's not something the boss should expect, but is it wrong to do so as a show of appreciation? Personally I don't think so.
    – Kialandei
    Jan 5 '16 at 16:55






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    I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it doesn't appear to be about the workplace.
    – DJClayworth
    Jan 5 '16 at 23:09







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Break out the wallet and make it rain.
– Pequod
Jan 5 '16 at 11:46




Break out the wallet and make it rain.
– Pequod
Jan 5 '16 at 11:46




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i think what to do depends on why you didn't want to contribute. Do you strongly dislike the birthday celebrant? disapprove of birthday presents? find yourself unable to afford the contribution? You have options including paying anyway, declining again, and changing your mind about attending. Which to choose depends on your situation so please add details to your question.
– Kate Gregory
Jan 5 '16 at 12:03




i think what to do depends on why you didn't want to contribute. Do you strongly dislike the birthday celebrant? disapprove of birthday presents? find yourself unable to afford the contribution? You have options including paying anyway, declining again, and changing your mind about attending. Which to choose depends on your situation so please add details to your question.
– Kate Gregory
Jan 5 '16 at 12:03




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@DanShaffer 25$ for the boss? I would be annoyed with just 5$, 25 would probably be a hill I'd be willing to die on.
– Lilienthal♦
Jan 5 '16 at 16:25




@DanShaffer 25$ for the boss? I would be annoyed with just 5$, 25 would probably be a hill I'd be willing to die on.
– Lilienthal♦
Jan 5 '16 at 16:25




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@thursdaysgeek I don't think that's true in all cases. Say the boss has just campaigned really hard and got all of your team 20% raises, you don't think that's worth a gift from the team as a thank you? Certainly it's not something the boss should expect, but is it wrong to do so as a show of appreciation? Personally I don't think so.
– Kialandei
Jan 5 '16 at 16:55




@thursdaysgeek I don't think that's true in all cases. Say the boss has just campaigned really hard and got all of your team 20% raises, you don't think that's worth a gift from the team as a thank you? Certainly it's not something the boss should expect, but is it wrong to do so as a show of appreciation? Personally I don't think so.
– Kialandei
Jan 5 '16 at 16:55




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I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it doesn't appear to be about the workplace.
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You could approach the person who is asking you for the money with something along the lines of:




"Sorry, I didn't realise I'd been included in the gift, I thought I'd
let you know to count me out. Would it cause any problems for me to be
counted out still and not contribute?"




If it's an honest mistake then I don't see how this would cause any offence or bad feelings, you said you didn't want to be included when you were first approached.



I don't see any reason for you to not go to the meal unless the above turned the whole situation very sour, someone who's not expecting a gift anyway should be grateful to the people who got it for them, not angsty about someone not contributing. As for the person organising the gift, they asked you and then ignored/missed your answer which is not your fault.



That said, I think personally if it was only a small contribution, I would probably contribute at this point anyway, but just mention that I thought I'd asked to be counted out, but not to worry and mistakes happen. Then just try and be clearer next time around.






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    I am always surprised by people asking "How do I politely do X" - the question is really "How do I do X without any negative consequences for myself", and doing things politely is sometimes the right way to do it, and sometimes not.



    Well, it's not your mistake. You were asked to contribute, you said you wouldn't, and someone made the wrong assumption. Not your mistake. So "I am sorry about the misunderstanding, but I clearly told X that I wouldn't contribute" is enough of an answer.



    Nobody knows about your financial situation. You may be swimming in money (single people in the UK living with their parents often are), or you might find it hard to find any spare cash (people in the UK with adult children that they can't get rid of often are); your car might be close to breaking down and you need any penny for a new one, your child might need special care that eats up all your cash and so on. Since your financial situation and the reasons behind it are only your business, "I will not contribute" should be acceptable to anyone. The consequence may be that you are not getting a present when it's your birthday :-(



    There is no awkward situation unless someone else makes it awkward. So you go to the meal. If someone says "lydia refused to contribute to the present", you tell them straight "so you know my financial situation"? (That's the only thing you say. No details whatsoever. Only that they don't know your financial situation, and therefore it is very impolite of them to bring it up). The only situation where you wouldn't go to the meal is if every individual is expected to pay for their share of the meal, and you can't.






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    • I think the word care in "care might be breaking down" is probably wrong. It should probably be "carer". Unless it's car, but that's too prosaic.
      – Andrew Leach
      Jan 6 '16 at 13:57










    • @AndrewLeach actually I thought he meant car - I know I've got a £200 bill coming up soon for work on my car, it's not that unusual to know something is going to need to be done soon, just not right now and be planning your finances based around that known cost.
      – Jon Story
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    You could approach the person who is asking you for the money with something along the lines of:




    "Sorry, I didn't realise I'd been included in the gift, I thought I'd
    let you know to count me out. Would it cause any problems for me to be
    counted out still and not contribute?"




    If it's an honest mistake then I don't see how this would cause any offence or bad feelings, you said you didn't want to be included when you were first approached.



    I don't see any reason for you to not go to the meal unless the above turned the whole situation very sour, someone who's not expecting a gift anyway should be grateful to the people who got it for them, not angsty about someone not contributing. As for the person organising the gift, they asked you and then ignored/missed your answer which is not your fault.



    That said, I think personally if it was only a small contribution, I would probably contribute at this point anyway, but just mention that I thought I'd asked to be counted out, but not to worry and mistakes happen. Then just try and be clearer next time around.






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      You could approach the person who is asking you for the money with something along the lines of:




      "Sorry, I didn't realise I'd been included in the gift, I thought I'd
      let you know to count me out. Would it cause any problems for me to be
      counted out still and not contribute?"




      If it's an honest mistake then I don't see how this would cause any offence or bad feelings, you said you didn't want to be included when you were first approached.



      I don't see any reason for you to not go to the meal unless the above turned the whole situation very sour, someone who's not expecting a gift anyway should be grateful to the people who got it for them, not angsty about someone not contributing. As for the person organising the gift, they asked you and then ignored/missed your answer which is not your fault.



      That said, I think personally if it was only a small contribution, I would probably contribute at this point anyway, but just mention that I thought I'd asked to be counted out, but not to worry and mistakes happen. Then just try and be clearer next time around.






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        up vote
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        up vote
        10
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        You could approach the person who is asking you for the money with something along the lines of:




        "Sorry, I didn't realise I'd been included in the gift, I thought I'd
        let you know to count me out. Would it cause any problems for me to be
        counted out still and not contribute?"




        If it's an honest mistake then I don't see how this would cause any offence or bad feelings, you said you didn't want to be included when you were first approached.



        I don't see any reason for you to not go to the meal unless the above turned the whole situation very sour, someone who's not expecting a gift anyway should be grateful to the people who got it for them, not angsty about someone not contributing. As for the person organising the gift, they asked you and then ignored/missed your answer which is not your fault.



        That said, I think personally if it was only a small contribution, I would probably contribute at this point anyway, but just mention that I thought I'd asked to be counted out, but not to worry and mistakes happen. Then just try and be clearer next time around.






        share|improve this answer












        You could approach the person who is asking you for the money with something along the lines of:




        "Sorry, I didn't realise I'd been included in the gift, I thought I'd
        let you know to count me out. Would it cause any problems for me to be
        counted out still and not contribute?"




        If it's an honest mistake then I don't see how this would cause any offence or bad feelings, you said you didn't want to be included when you were first approached.



        I don't see any reason for you to not go to the meal unless the above turned the whole situation very sour, someone who's not expecting a gift anyway should be grateful to the people who got it for them, not angsty about someone not contributing. As for the person organising the gift, they asked you and then ignored/missed your answer which is not your fault.



        That said, I think personally if it was only a small contribution, I would probably contribute at this point anyway, but just mention that I thought I'd asked to be counted out, but not to worry and mistakes happen. Then just try and be clearer next time around.







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            I am always surprised by people asking "How do I politely do X" - the question is really "How do I do X without any negative consequences for myself", and doing things politely is sometimes the right way to do it, and sometimes not.



            Well, it's not your mistake. You were asked to contribute, you said you wouldn't, and someone made the wrong assumption. Not your mistake. So "I am sorry about the misunderstanding, but I clearly told X that I wouldn't contribute" is enough of an answer.



            Nobody knows about your financial situation. You may be swimming in money (single people in the UK living with their parents often are), or you might find it hard to find any spare cash (people in the UK with adult children that they can't get rid of often are); your car might be close to breaking down and you need any penny for a new one, your child might need special care that eats up all your cash and so on. Since your financial situation and the reasons behind it are only your business, "I will not contribute" should be acceptable to anyone. The consequence may be that you are not getting a present when it's your birthday :-(



            There is no awkward situation unless someone else makes it awkward. So you go to the meal. If someone says "lydia refused to contribute to the present", you tell them straight "so you know my financial situation"? (That's the only thing you say. No details whatsoever. Only that they don't know your financial situation, and therefore it is very impolite of them to bring it up). The only situation where you wouldn't go to the meal is if every individual is expected to pay for their share of the meal, and you can't.






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            • I think the word care in "care might be breaking down" is probably wrong. It should probably be "carer". Unless it's car, but that's too prosaic.
              – Andrew Leach
              Jan 6 '16 at 13:57










            • @AndrewLeach actually I thought he meant car - I know I've got a £200 bill coming up soon for work on my car, it's not that unusual to know something is going to need to be done soon, just not right now and be planning your finances based around that known cost.
              – Jon Story
              Jan 6 '16 at 14:51










            • Oops - fixed it.
              – gnasher729
              Jan 6 '16 at 22:07














            up vote
            6
            down vote













            I am always surprised by people asking "How do I politely do X" - the question is really "How do I do X without any negative consequences for myself", and doing things politely is sometimes the right way to do it, and sometimes not.



            Well, it's not your mistake. You were asked to contribute, you said you wouldn't, and someone made the wrong assumption. Not your mistake. So "I am sorry about the misunderstanding, but I clearly told X that I wouldn't contribute" is enough of an answer.



            Nobody knows about your financial situation. You may be swimming in money (single people in the UK living with their parents often are), or you might find it hard to find any spare cash (people in the UK with adult children that they can't get rid of often are); your car might be close to breaking down and you need any penny for a new one, your child might need special care that eats up all your cash and so on. Since your financial situation and the reasons behind it are only your business, "I will not contribute" should be acceptable to anyone. The consequence may be that you are not getting a present when it's your birthday :-(



            There is no awkward situation unless someone else makes it awkward. So you go to the meal. If someone says "lydia refused to contribute to the present", you tell them straight "so you know my financial situation"? (That's the only thing you say. No details whatsoever. Only that they don't know your financial situation, and therefore it is very impolite of them to bring it up). The only situation where you wouldn't go to the meal is if every individual is expected to pay for their share of the meal, and you can't.






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            • I think the word care in "care might be breaking down" is probably wrong. It should probably be "carer". Unless it's car, but that's too prosaic.
              – Andrew Leach
              Jan 6 '16 at 13:57










            • @AndrewLeach actually I thought he meant car - I know I've got a £200 bill coming up soon for work on my car, it's not that unusual to know something is going to need to be done soon, just not right now and be planning your finances based around that known cost.
              – Jon Story
              Jan 6 '16 at 14:51










            • Oops - fixed it.
              – gnasher729
              Jan 6 '16 at 22:07












            up vote
            6
            down vote










            up vote
            6
            down vote









            I am always surprised by people asking "How do I politely do X" - the question is really "How do I do X without any negative consequences for myself", and doing things politely is sometimes the right way to do it, and sometimes not.



            Well, it's not your mistake. You were asked to contribute, you said you wouldn't, and someone made the wrong assumption. Not your mistake. So "I am sorry about the misunderstanding, but I clearly told X that I wouldn't contribute" is enough of an answer.



            Nobody knows about your financial situation. You may be swimming in money (single people in the UK living with their parents often are), or you might find it hard to find any spare cash (people in the UK with adult children that they can't get rid of often are); your car might be close to breaking down and you need any penny for a new one, your child might need special care that eats up all your cash and so on. Since your financial situation and the reasons behind it are only your business, "I will not contribute" should be acceptable to anyone. The consequence may be that you are not getting a present when it's your birthday :-(



            There is no awkward situation unless someone else makes it awkward. So you go to the meal. If someone says "lydia refused to contribute to the present", you tell them straight "so you know my financial situation"? (That's the only thing you say. No details whatsoever. Only that they don't know your financial situation, and therefore it is very impolite of them to bring it up). The only situation where you wouldn't go to the meal is if every individual is expected to pay for their share of the meal, and you can't.






            share|improve this answer














            I am always surprised by people asking "How do I politely do X" - the question is really "How do I do X without any negative consequences for myself", and doing things politely is sometimes the right way to do it, and sometimes not.



            Well, it's not your mistake. You were asked to contribute, you said you wouldn't, and someone made the wrong assumption. Not your mistake. So "I am sorry about the misunderstanding, but I clearly told X that I wouldn't contribute" is enough of an answer.



            Nobody knows about your financial situation. You may be swimming in money (single people in the UK living with their parents often are), or you might find it hard to find any spare cash (people in the UK with adult children that they can't get rid of often are); your car might be close to breaking down and you need any penny for a new one, your child might need special care that eats up all your cash and so on. Since your financial situation and the reasons behind it are only your business, "I will not contribute" should be acceptable to anyone. The consequence may be that you are not getting a present when it's your birthday :-(



            There is no awkward situation unless someone else makes it awkward. So you go to the meal. If someone says "lydia refused to contribute to the present", you tell them straight "so you know my financial situation"? (That's the only thing you say. No details whatsoever. Only that they don't know your financial situation, and therefore it is very impolite of them to bring it up). The only situation where you wouldn't go to the meal is if every individual is expected to pay for their share of the meal, and you can't.







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            • I think the word care in "care might be breaking down" is probably wrong. It should probably be "carer". Unless it's car, but that's too prosaic.
              – Andrew Leach
              Jan 6 '16 at 13:57










            • @AndrewLeach actually I thought he meant car - I know I've got a £200 bill coming up soon for work on my car, it's not that unusual to know something is going to need to be done soon, just not right now and be planning your finances based around that known cost.
              – Jon Story
              Jan 6 '16 at 14:51










            • Oops - fixed it.
              – gnasher729
              Jan 6 '16 at 22:07
















            • I think the word care in "care might be breaking down" is probably wrong. It should probably be "carer". Unless it's car, but that's too prosaic.
              – Andrew Leach
              Jan 6 '16 at 13:57










            • @AndrewLeach actually I thought he meant car - I know I've got a £200 bill coming up soon for work on my car, it's not that unusual to know something is going to need to be done soon, just not right now and be planning your finances based around that known cost.
              – Jon Story
              Jan 6 '16 at 14:51










            • Oops - fixed it.
              – gnasher729
              Jan 6 '16 at 22:07















            I think the word care in "care might be breaking down" is probably wrong. It should probably be "carer". Unless it's car, but that's too prosaic.
            – Andrew Leach
            Jan 6 '16 at 13:57




            I think the word care in "care might be breaking down" is probably wrong. It should probably be "carer". Unless it's car, but that's too prosaic.
            – Andrew Leach
            Jan 6 '16 at 13:57












            @AndrewLeach actually I thought he meant car - I know I've got a £200 bill coming up soon for work on my car, it's not that unusual to know something is going to need to be done soon, just not right now and be planning your finances based around that known cost.
            – Jon Story
            Jan 6 '16 at 14:51




            @AndrewLeach actually I thought he meant car - I know I've got a £200 bill coming up soon for work on my car, it's not that unusual to know something is going to need to be done soon, just not right now and be planning your finances based around that known cost.
            – Jon Story
            Jan 6 '16 at 14:51












            Oops - fixed it.
            – gnasher729
            Jan 6 '16 at 22:07




            Oops - fixed it.
            – gnasher729
            Jan 6 '16 at 22:07


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