What melee weapon should winged humans use?
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So currently in my fantasy universe 2 races are at war, the Anglar and the Darus.
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Anglar: winged humans (basically Angels without holy powers),
Darus: lizard people, they used to have wings but a strange ailment caused most of them to lose their wings.
Terrain: flying islands in the sky. think avatar's flying mountains (the blue people avatar), below is a mist covered chasm that falls for many fathoms. we're unable to know if it has a bottom. the Darus use mages to build bridges across to each island to get across (but this takes time), the Anglar just fly across,
Some quickly built forts for the Darus, and several starter colonies for the Anglar.
Background: the Darus were in a mass migration due to the loss of their wings and an earthquake destroying their home. They found the flying islands but also found the Anglar who are a extremely prideful race and find any other creature who can fly their lesser. The Anglar began an extermination campaign on the Darus due to similarities to dragons, which the Anglar exterminated. With nowhere else to go the Darus launched total war on the Anglar colonies.
My question is what sort of melee weapons would flying humans use against those on the ground? I was thinking a type of scythe.
Here's a situation it would be used in:
The Darus constructed a bridge connecting two islands, and their foot soldiers cross over. The Anglar strafe across the bridge, swing their scythes and cut many down, and for some unfortunate souls, drag them off the bridge.
Edit: I know they can use ranged weapons or magic but I'm looking for what they can use in air to ground close proximity combat. I'm looking for a specific melee strafe weapon. I don't want them to rely on only ranged weapons.
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So currently in my fantasy universe 2 races are at war, the Anglar and the Darus.
Info:
Anglar: winged humans (basically Angels without holy powers),
Darus: lizard people, they used to have wings but a strange ailment caused most of them to lose their wings.
Terrain: flying islands in the sky. think avatar's flying mountains (the blue people avatar), below is a mist covered chasm that falls for many fathoms. we're unable to know if it has a bottom. the Darus use mages to build bridges across to each island to get across (but this takes time), the Anglar just fly across,
Some quickly built forts for the Darus, and several starter colonies for the Anglar.
Background: the Darus were in a mass migration due to the loss of their wings and an earthquake destroying their home. They found the flying islands but also found the Anglar who are a extremely prideful race and find any other creature who can fly their lesser. The Anglar began an extermination campaign on the Darus due to similarities to dragons, which the Anglar exterminated. With nowhere else to go the Darus launched total war on the Anglar colonies.
My question is what sort of melee weapons would flying humans use against those on the ground? I was thinking a type of scythe.
Here's a situation it would be used in:
The Darus constructed a bridge connecting two islands, and their foot soldiers cross over. The Anglar strafe across the bridge, swing their scythes and cut many down, and for some unfortunate souls, drag them off the bridge.
Edit: I know they can use ranged weapons or magic but I'm looking for what they can use in air to ground close proximity combat. I'm looking for a specific melee strafe weapon. I don't want them to rely on only ranged weapons.
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Possible duplicate of Aerial combat: winged humans
– Mołot
3 hours ago
If you can fly and hit your enemy from above, why would you get close to their weapons?
– L.Dutch♦
3 hours ago
More effective due to no fear of running out of ammo. Also they would get tired flying all the time, as swinging a weapon while simultaneously flying would be a much greater physical strain.
– Spark warrior777
3 hours ago
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Spears might be great. Spears are very effective (and lethal). The only way to counter is shooting a projectile, using a spear too, or closing up the gap. due to a flap with the wings anglars can hold the gap pretty good. This might help too. Also spears are better throwable than swords
– Jannis
2 hours ago
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if "below is a mist covered cassm that falls for many fathoms.unable to know if it has a bottom", how can "an earthquake (destroy) there[sic] home"?
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So currently in my fantasy universe 2 races are at war, the Anglar and the Darus.
Info:
Anglar: winged humans (basically Angels without holy powers),
Darus: lizard people, they used to have wings but a strange ailment caused most of them to lose their wings.
Terrain: flying islands in the sky. think avatar's flying mountains (the blue people avatar), below is a mist covered chasm that falls for many fathoms. we're unable to know if it has a bottom. the Darus use mages to build bridges across to each island to get across (but this takes time), the Anglar just fly across,
Some quickly built forts for the Darus, and several starter colonies for the Anglar.
Background: the Darus were in a mass migration due to the loss of their wings and an earthquake destroying their home. They found the flying islands but also found the Anglar who are a extremely prideful race and find any other creature who can fly their lesser. The Anglar began an extermination campaign on the Darus due to similarities to dragons, which the Anglar exterminated. With nowhere else to go the Darus launched total war on the Anglar colonies.
My question is what sort of melee weapons would flying humans use against those on the ground? I was thinking a type of scythe.
Here's a situation it would be used in:
The Darus constructed a bridge connecting two islands, and their foot soldiers cross over. The Anglar strafe across the bridge, swing their scythes and cut many down, and for some unfortunate souls, drag them off the bridge.
Edit: I know they can use ranged weapons or magic but I'm looking for what they can use in air to ground close proximity combat. I'm looking for a specific melee strafe weapon. I don't want them to rely on only ranged weapons.
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So currently in my fantasy universe 2 races are at war, the Anglar and the Darus.
Info:
Anglar: winged humans (basically Angels without holy powers),
Darus: lizard people, they used to have wings but a strange ailment caused most of them to lose their wings.
Terrain: flying islands in the sky. think avatar's flying mountains (the blue people avatar), below is a mist covered chasm that falls for many fathoms. we're unable to know if it has a bottom. the Darus use mages to build bridges across to each island to get across (but this takes time), the Anglar just fly across,
Some quickly built forts for the Darus, and several starter colonies for the Anglar.
Background: the Darus were in a mass migration due to the loss of their wings and an earthquake destroying their home. They found the flying islands but also found the Anglar who are a extremely prideful race and find any other creature who can fly their lesser. The Anglar began an extermination campaign on the Darus due to similarities to dragons, which the Anglar exterminated. With nowhere else to go the Darus launched total war on the Anglar colonies.
My question is what sort of melee weapons would flying humans use against those on the ground? I was thinking a type of scythe.
Here's a situation it would be used in:
The Darus constructed a bridge connecting two islands, and their foot soldiers cross over. The Anglar strafe across the bridge, swing their scythes and cut many down, and for some unfortunate souls, drag them off the bridge.
Edit: I know they can use ranged weapons or magic but I'm looking for what they can use in air to ground close proximity combat. I'm looking for a specific melee strafe weapon. I don't want them to rely on only ranged weapons.
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Possible duplicate of Aerial combat: winged humans
– Mołot
3 hours ago
If you can fly and hit your enemy from above, why would you get close to their weapons?
– L.Dutch♦
3 hours ago
More effective due to no fear of running out of ammo. Also they would get tired flying all the time, as swinging a weapon while simultaneously flying would be a much greater physical strain.
– Spark warrior777
3 hours ago
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Spears might be great. Spears are very effective (and lethal). The only way to counter is shooting a projectile, using a spear too, or closing up the gap. due to a flap with the wings anglars can hold the gap pretty good. This might help too. Also spears are better throwable than swords
– Jannis
2 hours ago
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if "below is a mist covered cassm that falls for many fathoms.unable to know if it has a bottom", how can "an earthquake (destroy) there[sic] home"?
– RonJohn
2 hours ago
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Possible duplicate of Aerial combat: winged humans
– Mołot
3 hours ago
If you can fly and hit your enemy from above, why would you get close to their weapons?
– L.Dutch♦
3 hours ago
More effective due to no fear of running out of ammo. Also they would get tired flying all the time, as swinging a weapon while simultaneously flying would be a much greater physical strain.
– Spark warrior777
3 hours ago
1
Spears might be great. Spears are very effective (and lethal). The only way to counter is shooting a projectile, using a spear too, or closing up the gap. due to a flap with the wings anglars can hold the gap pretty good. This might help too. Also spears are better throwable than swords
– Jannis
2 hours ago
2
if "below is a mist covered cassm that falls for many fathoms.unable to know if it has a bottom", how can "an earthquake (destroy) there[sic] home"?
– RonJohn
2 hours ago
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Possible duplicate of Aerial combat: winged humans
– Mołot
3 hours ago
Possible duplicate of Aerial combat: winged humans
– Mołot
3 hours ago
If you can fly and hit your enemy from above, why would you get close to their weapons?
– L.Dutch♦
3 hours ago
If you can fly and hit your enemy from above, why would you get close to their weapons?
– L.Dutch♦
3 hours ago
More effective due to no fear of running out of ammo. Also they would get tired flying all the time, as swinging a weapon while simultaneously flying would be a much greater physical strain.
– Spark warrior777
3 hours ago
More effective due to no fear of running out of ammo. Also they would get tired flying all the time, as swinging a weapon while simultaneously flying would be a much greater physical strain.
– Spark warrior777
3 hours ago
1
1
Spears might be great. Spears are very effective (and lethal). The only way to counter is shooting a projectile, using a spear too, or closing up the gap. due to a flap with the wings anglars can hold the gap pretty good. This might help too. Also spears are better throwable than swords
– Jannis
2 hours ago
Spears might be great. Spears are very effective (and lethal). The only way to counter is shooting a projectile, using a spear too, or closing up the gap. due to a flap with the wings anglars can hold the gap pretty good. This might help too. Also spears are better throwable than swords
– Jannis
2 hours ago
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2
if "below is a mist covered cassm that falls for many fathoms.unable to know if it has a bottom", how can "an earthquake (destroy) there[sic] home"?
– RonJohn
2 hours ago
if "below is a mist covered cassm that falls for many fathoms.unable to know if it has a bottom", how can "an earthquake (destroy) there[sic] home"?
– RonJohn
2 hours ago
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Spear
bottom line is the critical weakness of an avian being is their wings. Their critical strength is also their mobility from their wings. Therefore they would prefer high reach melee weapons that take advantage of their speed whilst reducing their chance for injury.
Under these conditions that would be the spear. The lance could be a runner up but its weight would reduce mobility and dexterity.
Weapons that demand two hands like scythes, reduce dexterity and agility which detract from their greatest strength. In other words maximize your strengths. This is why cavalry units were never equipped with polearms, scythes, or other two handed weapons.
What about using sythe's to drag people off sky bridges?
– Spark warrior777
1 hour ago
A scythe is not a real war weapon. There is the war scythe but it looks nothing like the kind of scythe you are thinking off. If you really want to push someone off a bridge I am sure bolas or nets would make more sense.
– Tyler S. Loeper
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Flail.
Spears and lances and such are nice, but there may exist the small problem that after you perform your flyby stabbing that your target is now firmly impaled by your weapon.
That might not be a problem, but I'm not sure "fly in, stab, fly away, re-arm" really fits the mold of "air to ground close proximity combat" (although, to be sure, it's probably a pretty sensible way to prosecute the enemy.)
By 'flail' I mean a mass weapon with a handle and a flexible bit in the middle. Flails, nunchuku, a bowling ball on the end of a rope -- that sort of thing. The hope would be that the mass would smash into and damage the target but also then bounce off it, so the wielder could keep flying and come around for another pass.
Cavalry using flails would have to spin them to prevent the ball swinging on its own and knocking them on the back of the head. Now imagine a winged human doing that in mid air
– nzaman
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@nzaman I'm just imagining a game background voice saying: "anglar warrior has a 100 person Killstreak with a bowling ball. That's a strike" :D
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Here I present you the ultimate weapon you need as winged human:
A Pan
why would you use a pan some of you might ask
You have a solid shield against incoming projectiles in the air, you can hide behind the pan until your enemys die, but thats not the only thing the pan can do. The pan can also block swings with swords and everything else the enemy has. It will even block rams. And that is just one way to use the pan, the pan can do even more, it can attack. Reliable sources, like 'tangled' and 'PUBG' tell us everyday the pan is a very effective attack weapon, which has the power of Thors hammer combined with the precision of a sniper. You can try out, just grab a person, and you knock that person into aether so easy. And then you'll thank my company for selling that great piece of art to you.
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In general, War Bows:
The most obvious weapon to use with a consistent range and agility advantage is a war bow like the English Longbow. In this case the combat strategy to employ would be something like that of Mongolian Horse Archers. A flying race vs a non flying race can then maintain extreme range (and therefore safety) but still be deadly versus their targets. For example when hovering high in the air, gravity helps arrows move down, but counters arrows that move upwards that might be used to tackle flying archers.
There are other advantages too. English Longbows are powerful enough to puncture through various types of armor so wearing armor is not an automatic deterrent. I would also point out that since the battlefield is a flying island, that flying archers can achieve lots of unique angles on ground targets. For example archers can fire from the sky, and the sides (flying off the edge of the islands) and so on to really make it difficult for your lizard people to defend themselves, and make it impossible for defense on a bridge where a tortoise shield wall cannot be maintained.
The the most obvious approach for a total victory with minimal losses is therefore to exploit the mobility advantage. In practice it would make no sense for a group with the agility advantage to give up this advantage to fight in a melee and therefore on equal footing with an enemy. After all fighting is not for fun, it is for winning. Losing means death.
In Melee, Polearms:
If fighting on the ground was necessary then I would advocate for the spear, or a pike. The reason is that these are reach weapons. They can still be used effectively while hovering to hit enemies, because flyers can stay out of range while hitting enemies that cannot hit back. Where flying and hovering is not viable, there is still the case to be made that spears/polearms were the most effective war weapon in human history, so I would stick with it. Here is some fair discussion of the pike.
In conclusion:
In order to be effective a flying race fighting a ground race would employ bows, and reach weapons, in a dark ages - middle ages technology period.
well, when fighting with pike from above, the aglars have to keep in mind that: a) they might drop quick, but can't get up that quick, and b) when the weapon is catched, they will possibly their weapon or their live and c) you have a harder time hitting a target which can dodge in 4 directions. than just dodge in 2 directions
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, a) dropping quick only applies to arrows. Arrows have more reach downwards than upwards (against gravity). b) The problem of pikes getting pulled is certainly a problem but there is a simple solution, pay attention and let go of the pike if it gets pulled, then fly away. c) well presumably if you drop down as a group of flyers, on a group in formation, the folks on the grounds cannot move too much because they will bump into each other. And even if you manage to dodge a blow, it doesn't matter if by doing so you open up an ally for a blow from a pike.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
And another problem: wings are requiring much space, so the density of the spears definetly decreases. You generally would want to not go in melee combat as a anglar. Maybe it's just for 1v1 actions ...
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, there might be lower density but with a pike there is more reach, so certainly one flyer could hit the target of another flyer even if it is a little way over. I would advise against going 1v1 with a pike since that is not what pikes are designed for.
– Tyler S. Loeper
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How about spiked shoes? They have to come in range to use them, but a 1-2ft blade would let them stay far enough away that they can escape quickly using their wings. Having the blades on their shoes helps because they only risk their legs - not their wings or torsos. Other than that, I don't really see why they would use melee weapons against gravity-bound opponents anyway. They could literally just napalm everyone from a comfortable altitude
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A war scythe is a good idea, because it gives a lot of cutting power.
But it has a problem, the edge is in the concave part, inside. If your winged humans make a passing attack (and they will unless they fly too slowly or they are capable of staying stationary in mid air), they will get "stuck". If they don't release the weapon, they can even bounce on their target.
So let's look at the same weapon with the edge on the convex part, a fauchard.
Or bill, guisarme or any other names these kind of polearms had. Aside of D&D, nobody cares and in the Middle Ages even less.
Not only you have a point for stabbing (with a lunge), you can cut with a passing flight.
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Spear
bottom line is the critical weakness of an avian being is their wings. Their critical strength is also their mobility from their wings. Therefore they would prefer high reach melee weapons that take advantage of their speed whilst reducing their chance for injury.
Under these conditions that would be the spear. The lance could be a runner up but its weight would reduce mobility and dexterity.
Weapons that demand two hands like scythes, reduce dexterity and agility which detract from their greatest strength. In other words maximize your strengths. This is why cavalry units were never equipped with polearms, scythes, or other two handed weapons.
What about using sythe's to drag people off sky bridges?
– Spark warrior777
1 hour ago
A scythe is not a real war weapon. There is the war scythe but it looks nothing like the kind of scythe you are thinking off. If you really want to push someone off a bridge I am sure bolas or nets would make more sense.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
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Spear
bottom line is the critical weakness of an avian being is their wings. Their critical strength is also their mobility from their wings. Therefore they would prefer high reach melee weapons that take advantage of their speed whilst reducing their chance for injury.
Under these conditions that would be the spear. The lance could be a runner up but its weight would reduce mobility and dexterity.
Weapons that demand two hands like scythes, reduce dexterity and agility which detract from their greatest strength. In other words maximize your strengths. This is why cavalry units were never equipped with polearms, scythes, or other two handed weapons.
What about using sythe's to drag people off sky bridges?
– Spark warrior777
1 hour ago
A scythe is not a real war weapon. There is the war scythe but it looks nothing like the kind of scythe you are thinking off. If you really want to push someone off a bridge I am sure bolas or nets would make more sense.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
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bottom line is the critical weakness of an avian being is their wings. Their critical strength is also their mobility from their wings. Therefore they would prefer high reach melee weapons that take advantage of their speed whilst reducing their chance for injury.
Under these conditions that would be the spear. The lance could be a runner up but its weight would reduce mobility and dexterity.
Weapons that demand two hands like scythes, reduce dexterity and agility which detract from their greatest strength. In other words maximize your strengths. This is why cavalry units were never equipped with polearms, scythes, or other two handed weapons.
Spear
bottom line is the critical weakness of an avian being is their wings. Their critical strength is also their mobility from their wings. Therefore they would prefer high reach melee weapons that take advantage of their speed whilst reducing their chance for injury.
Under these conditions that would be the spear. The lance could be a runner up but its weight would reduce mobility and dexterity.
Weapons that demand two hands like scythes, reduce dexterity and agility which detract from their greatest strength. In other words maximize your strengths. This is why cavalry units were never equipped with polearms, scythes, or other two handed weapons.
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What about using sythe's to drag people off sky bridges?
– Spark warrior777
1 hour ago
A scythe is not a real war weapon. There is the war scythe but it looks nothing like the kind of scythe you are thinking off. If you really want to push someone off a bridge I am sure bolas or nets would make more sense.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
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What about using sythe's to drag people off sky bridges?
– Spark warrior777
1 hour ago
A scythe is not a real war weapon. There is the war scythe but it looks nothing like the kind of scythe you are thinking off. If you really want to push someone off a bridge I am sure bolas or nets would make more sense.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
What about using sythe's to drag people off sky bridges?
– Spark warrior777
1 hour ago
What about using sythe's to drag people off sky bridges?
– Spark warrior777
1 hour ago
A scythe is not a real war weapon. There is the war scythe but it looks nothing like the kind of scythe you are thinking off. If you really want to push someone off a bridge I am sure bolas or nets would make more sense.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
A scythe is not a real war weapon. There is the war scythe but it looks nothing like the kind of scythe you are thinking off. If you really want to push someone off a bridge I am sure bolas or nets would make more sense.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
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Flail.
Spears and lances and such are nice, but there may exist the small problem that after you perform your flyby stabbing that your target is now firmly impaled by your weapon.
That might not be a problem, but I'm not sure "fly in, stab, fly away, re-arm" really fits the mold of "air to ground close proximity combat" (although, to be sure, it's probably a pretty sensible way to prosecute the enemy.)
By 'flail' I mean a mass weapon with a handle and a flexible bit in the middle. Flails, nunchuku, a bowling ball on the end of a rope -- that sort of thing. The hope would be that the mass would smash into and damage the target but also then bounce off it, so the wielder could keep flying and come around for another pass.
Cavalry using flails would have to spin them to prevent the ball swinging on its own and knocking them on the back of the head. Now imagine a winged human doing that in mid air
– nzaman
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@nzaman I'm just imagining a game background voice saying: "anglar warrior has a 100 person Killstreak with a bowling ball. That's a strike" :D
– Jannis
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Flail.
Spears and lances and such are nice, but there may exist the small problem that after you perform your flyby stabbing that your target is now firmly impaled by your weapon.
That might not be a problem, but I'm not sure "fly in, stab, fly away, re-arm" really fits the mold of "air to ground close proximity combat" (although, to be sure, it's probably a pretty sensible way to prosecute the enemy.)
By 'flail' I mean a mass weapon with a handle and a flexible bit in the middle. Flails, nunchuku, a bowling ball on the end of a rope -- that sort of thing. The hope would be that the mass would smash into and damage the target but also then bounce off it, so the wielder could keep flying and come around for another pass.
Cavalry using flails would have to spin them to prevent the ball swinging on its own and knocking them on the back of the head. Now imagine a winged human doing that in mid air
– nzaman
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@nzaman I'm just imagining a game background voice saying: "anglar warrior has a 100 person Killstreak with a bowling ball. That's a strike" :D
– Jannis
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Flail.
Spears and lances and such are nice, but there may exist the small problem that after you perform your flyby stabbing that your target is now firmly impaled by your weapon.
That might not be a problem, but I'm not sure "fly in, stab, fly away, re-arm" really fits the mold of "air to ground close proximity combat" (although, to be sure, it's probably a pretty sensible way to prosecute the enemy.)
By 'flail' I mean a mass weapon with a handle and a flexible bit in the middle. Flails, nunchuku, a bowling ball on the end of a rope -- that sort of thing. The hope would be that the mass would smash into and damage the target but also then bounce off it, so the wielder could keep flying and come around for another pass.
Flail.
Spears and lances and such are nice, but there may exist the small problem that after you perform your flyby stabbing that your target is now firmly impaled by your weapon.
That might not be a problem, but I'm not sure "fly in, stab, fly away, re-arm" really fits the mold of "air to ground close proximity combat" (although, to be sure, it's probably a pretty sensible way to prosecute the enemy.)
By 'flail' I mean a mass weapon with a handle and a flexible bit in the middle. Flails, nunchuku, a bowling ball on the end of a rope -- that sort of thing. The hope would be that the mass would smash into and damage the target but also then bounce off it, so the wielder could keep flying and come around for another pass.
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Cavalry using flails would have to spin them to prevent the ball swinging on its own and knocking them on the back of the head. Now imagine a winged human doing that in mid air
– nzaman
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@nzaman I'm just imagining a game background voice saying: "anglar warrior has a 100 person Killstreak with a bowling ball. That's a strike" :D
– Jannis
1 hour ago
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Cavalry using flails would have to spin them to prevent the ball swinging on its own and knocking them on the back of the head. Now imagine a winged human doing that in mid air
– nzaman
1 hour ago
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@nzaman I'm just imagining a game background voice saying: "anglar warrior has a 100 person Killstreak with a bowling ball. That's a strike" :D
– Jannis
1 hour ago
Cavalry using flails would have to spin them to prevent the ball swinging on its own and knocking them on the back of the head. Now imagine a winged human doing that in mid air
– nzaman
1 hour ago
Cavalry using flails would have to spin them to prevent the ball swinging on its own and knocking them on the back of the head. Now imagine a winged human doing that in mid air
– nzaman
1 hour ago
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@nzaman I'm just imagining a game background voice saying: "anglar warrior has a 100 person Killstreak with a bowling ball. That's a strike" :D
– Jannis
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@nzaman I'm just imagining a game background voice saying: "anglar warrior has a 100 person Killstreak with a bowling ball. That's a strike" :D
– Jannis
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Here I present you the ultimate weapon you need as winged human:
A Pan
why would you use a pan some of you might ask
You have a solid shield against incoming projectiles in the air, you can hide behind the pan until your enemys die, but thats not the only thing the pan can do. The pan can also block swings with swords and everything else the enemy has. It will even block rams. And that is just one way to use the pan, the pan can do even more, it can attack. Reliable sources, like 'tangled' and 'PUBG' tell us everyday the pan is a very effective attack weapon, which has the power of Thors hammer combined with the precision of a sniper. You can try out, just grab a person, and you knock that person into aether so easy. And then you'll thank my company for selling that great piece of art to you.
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Here I present you the ultimate weapon you need as winged human:
A Pan
why would you use a pan some of you might ask
You have a solid shield against incoming projectiles in the air, you can hide behind the pan until your enemys die, but thats not the only thing the pan can do. The pan can also block swings with swords and everything else the enemy has. It will even block rams. And that is just one way to use the pan, the pan can do even more, it can attack. Reliable sources, like 'tangled' and 'PUBG' tell us everyday the pan is a very effective attack weapon, which has the power of Thors hammer combined with the precision of a sniper. You can try out, just grab a person, and you knock that person into aether so easy. And then you'll thank my company for selling that great piece of art to you.
Call this hotline now to get 1 for free if you buy 5
0800-89648236486234823648234w5t9f3r2u3d8o5i39n38427349934927349090237479329
PS: you can also bake with pans
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Here I present you the ultimate weapon you need as winged human:
A Pan
why would you use a pan some of you might ask
You have a solid shield against incoming projectiles in the air, you can hide behind the pan until your enemys die, but thats not the only thing the pan can do. The pan can also block swings with swords and everything else the enemy has. It will even block rams. And that is just one way to use the pan, the pan can do even more, it can attack. Reliable sources, like 'tangled' and 'PUBG' tell us everyday the pan is a very effective attack weapon, which has the power of Thors hammer combined with the precision of a sniper. You can try out, just grab a person, and you knock that person into aether so easy. And then you'll thank my company for selling that great piece of art to you.
Call this hotline now to get 1 for free if you buy 5
0800-89648236486234823648234w5t9f3r2u3d8o5i39n38427349934927349090237479329
PS: you can also bake with pans
Here I present you the ultimate weapon you need as winged human:
A Pan
why would you use a pan some of you might ask
You have a solid shield against incoming projectiles in the air, you can hide behind the pan until your enemys die, but thats not the only thing the pan can do. The pan can also block swings with swords and everything else the enemy has. It will even block rams. And that is just one way to use the pan, the pan can do even more, it can attack. Reliable sources, like 'tangled' and 'PUBG' tell us everyday the pan is a very effective attack weapon, which has the power of Thors hammer combined with the precision of a sniper. You can try out, just grab a person, and you knock that person into aether so easy. And then you'll thank my company for selling that great piece of art to you.
Call this hotline now to get 1 for free if you buy 5
0800-89648236486234823648234w5t9f3r2u3d8o5i39n38427349934927349090237479329
PS: you can also bake with pans
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In general, War Bows:
The most obvious weapon to use with a consistent range and agility advantage is a war bow like the English Longbow. In this case the combat strategy to employ would be something like that of Mongolian Horse Archers. A flying race vs a non flying race can then maintain extreme range (and therefore safety) but still be deadly versus their targets. For example when hovering high in the air, gravity helps arrows move down, but counters arrows that move upwards that might be used to tackle flying archers.
There are other advantages too. English Longbows are powerful enough to puncture through various types of armor so wearing armor is not an automatic deterrent. I would also point out that since the battlefield is a flying island, that flying archers can achieve lots of unique angles on ground targets. For example archers can fire from the sky, and the sides (flying off the edge of the islands) and so on to really make it difficult for your lizard people to defend themselves, and make it impossible for defense on a bridge where a tortoise shield wall cannot be maintained.
The the most obvious approach for a total victory with minimal losses is therefore to exploit the mobility advantage. In practice it would make no sense for a group with the agility advantage to give up this advantage to fight in a melee and therefore on equal footing with an enemy. After all fighting is not for fun, it is for winning. Losing means death.
In Melee, Polearms:
If fighting on the ground was necessary then I would advocate for the spear, or a pike. The reason is that these are reach weapons. They can still be used effectively while hovering to hit enemies, because flyers can stay out of range while hitting enemies that cannot hit back. Where flying and hovering is not viable, there is still the case to be made that spears/polearms were the most effective war weapon in human history, so I would stick with it. Here is some fair discussion of the pike.
In conclusion:
In order to be effective a flying race fighting a ground race would employ bows, and reach weapons, in a dark ages - middle ages technology period.
well, when fighting with pike from above, the aglars have to keep in mind that: a) they might drop quick, but can't get up that quick, and b) when the weapon is catched, they will possibly their weapon or their live and c) you have a harder time hitting a target which can dodge in 4 directions. than just dodge in 2 directions
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, a) dropping quick only applies to arrows. Arrows have more reach downwards than upwards (against gravity). b) The problem of pikes getting pulled is certainly a problem but there is a simple solution, pay attention and let go of the pike if it gets pulled, then fly away. c) well presumably if you drop down as a group of flyers, on a group in formation, the folks on the grounds cannot move too much because they will bump into each other. And even if you manage to dodge a blow, it doesn't matter if by doing so you open up an ally for a blow from a pike.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
And another problem: wings are requiring much space, so the density of the spears definetly decreases. You generally would want to not go in melee combat as a anglar. Maybe it's just for 1v1 actions ...
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, there might be lower density but with a pike there is more reach, so certainly one flyer could hit the target of another flyer even if it is a little way over. I would advise against going 1v1 with a pike since that is not what pikes are designed for.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
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In general, War Bows:
The most obvious weapon to use with a consistent range and agility advantage is a war bow like the English Longbow. In this case the combat strategy to employ would be something like that of Mongolian Horse Archers. A flying race vs a non flying race can then maintain extreme range (and therefore safety) but still be deadly versus their targets. For example when hovering high in the air, gravity helps arrows move down, but counters arrows that move upwards that might be used to tackle flying archers.
There are other advantages too. English Longbows are powerful enough to puncture through various types of armor so wearing armor is not an automatic deterrent. I would also point out that since the battlefield is a flying island, that flying archers can achieve lots of unique angles on ground targets. For example archers can fire from the sky, and the sides (flying off the edge of the islands) and so on to really make it difficult for your lizard people to defend themselves, and make it impossible for defense on a bridge where a tortoise shield wall cannot be maintained.
The the most obvious approach for a total victory with minimal losses is therefore to exploit the mobility advantage. In practice it would make no sense for a group with the agility advantage to give up this advantage to fight in a melee and therefore on equal footing with an enemy. After all fighting is not for fun, it is for winning. Losing means death.
In Melee, Polearms:
If fighting on the ground was necessary then I would advocate for the spear, or a pike. The reason is that these are reach weapons. They can still be used effectively while hovering to hit enemies, because flyers can stay out of range while hitting enemies that cannot hit back. Where flying and hovering is not viable, there is still the case to be made that spears/polearms were the most effective war weapon in human history, so I would stick with it. Here is some fair discussion of the pike.
In conclusion:
In order to be effective a flying race fighting a ground race would employ bows, and reach weapons, in a dark ages - middle ages technology period.
well, when fighting with pike from above, the aglars have to keep in mind that: a) they might drop quick, but can't get up that quick, and b) when the weapon is catched, they will possibly their weapon or their live and c) you have a harder time hitting a target which can dodge in 4 directions. than just dodge in 2 directions
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, a) dropping quick only applies to arrows. Arrows have more reach downwards than upwards (against gravity). b) The problem of pikes getting pulled is certainly a problem but there is a simple solution, pay attention and let go of the pike if it gets pulled, then fly away. c) well presumably if you drop down as a group of flyers, on a group in formation, the folks on the grounds cannot move too much because they will bump into each other. And even if you manage to dodge a blow, it doesn't matter if by doing so you open up an ally for a blow from a pike.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
And another problem: wings are requiring much space, so the density of the spears definetly decreases. You generally would want to not go in melee combat as a anglar. Maybe it's just for 1v1 actions ...
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, there might be lower density but with a pike there is more reach, so certainly one flyer could hit the target of another flyer even if it is a little way over. I would advise against going 1v1 with a pike since that is not what pikes are designed for.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
up vote
1
down vote
In general, War Bows:
The most obvious weapon to use with a consistent range and agility advantage is a war bow like the English Longbow. In this case the combat strategy to employ would be something like that of Mongolian Horse Archers. A flying race vs a non flying race can then maintain extreme range (and therefore safety) but still be deadly versus their targets. For example when hovering high in the air, gravity helps arrows move down, but counters arrows that move upwards that might be used to tackle flying archers.
There are other advantages too. English Longbows are powerful enough to puncture through various types of armor so wearing armor is not an automatic deterrent. I would also point out that since the battlefield is a flying island, that flying archers can achieve lots of unique angles on ground targets. For example archers can fire from the sky, and the sides (flying off the edge of the islands) and so on to really make it difficult for your lizard people to defend themselves, and make it impossible for defense on a bridge where a tortoise shield wall cannot be maintained.
The the most obvious approach for a total victory with minimal losses is therefore to exploit the mobility advantage. In practice it would make no sense for a group with the agility advantage to give up this advantage to fight in a melee and therefore on equal footing with an enemy. After all fighting is not for fun, it is for winning. Losing means death.
In Melee, Polearms:
If fighting on the ground was necessary then I would advocate for the spear, or a pike. The reason is that these are reach weapons. They can still be used effectively while hovering to hit enemies, because flyers can stay out of range while hitting enemies that cannot hit back. Where flying and hovering is not viable, there is still the case to be made that spears/polearms were the most effective war weapon in human history, so I would stick with it. Here is some fair discussion of the pike.
In conclusion:
In order to be effective a flying race fighting a ground race would employ bows, and reach weapons, in a dark ages - middle ages technology period.
In general, War Bows:
The most obvious weapon to use with a consistent range and agility advantage is a war bow like the English Longbow. In this case the combat strategy to employ would be something like that of Mongolian Horse Archers. A flying race vs a non flying race can then maintain extreme range (and therefore safety) but still be deadly versus their targets. For example when hovering high in the air, gravity helps arrows move down, but counters arrows that move upwards that might be used to tackle flying archers.
There are other advantages too. English Longbows are powerful enough to puncture through various types of armor so wearing armor is not an automatic deterrent. I would also point out that since the battlefield is a flying island, that flying archers can achieve lots of unique angles on ground targets. For example archers can fire from the sky, and the sides (flying off the edge of the islands) and so on to really make it difficult for your lizard people to defend themselves, and make it impossible for defense on a bridge where a tortoise shield wall cannot be maintained.
The the most obvious approach for a total victory with minimal losses is therefore to exploit the mobility advantage. In practice it would make no sense for a group with the agility advantage to give up this advantage to fight in a melee and therefore on equal footing with an enemy. After all fighting is not for fun, it is for winning. Losing means death.
In Melee, Polearms:
If fighting on the ground was necessary then I would advocate for the spear, or a pike. The reason is that these are reach weapons. They can still be used effectively while hovering to hit enemies, because flyers can stay out of range while hitting enemies that cannot hit back. Where flying and hovering is not viable, there is still the case to be made that spears/polearms were the most effective war weapon in human history, so I would stick with it. Here is some fair discussion of the pike.
In conclusion:
In order to be effective a flying race fighting a ground race would employ bows, and reach weapons, in a dark ages - middle ages technology period.
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well, when fighting with pike from above, the aglars have to keep in mind that: a) they might drop quick, but can't get up that quick, and b) when the weapon is catched, they will possibly their weapon or their live and c) you have a harder time hitting a target which can dodge in 4 directions. than just dodge in 2 directions
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, a) dropping quick only applies to arrows. Arrows have more reach downwards than upwards (against gravity). b) The problem of pikes getting pulled is certainly a problem but there is a simple solution, pay attention and let go of the pike if it gets pulled, then fly away. c) well presumably if you drop down as a group of flyers, on a group in formation, the folks on the grounds cannot move too much because they will bump into each other. And even if you manage to dodge a blow, it doesn't matter if by doing so you open up an ally for a blow from a pike.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
And another problem: wings are requiring much space, so the density of the spears definetly decreases. You generally would want to not go in melee combat as a anglar. Maybe it's just for 1v1 actions ...
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, there might be lower density but with a pike there is more reach, so certainly one flyer could hit the target of another flyer even if it is a little way over. I would advise against going 1v1 with a pike since that is not what pikes are designed for.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
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well, when fighting with pike from above, the aglars have to keep in mind that: a) they might drop quick, but can't get up that quick, and b) when the weapon is catched, they will possibly their weapon or their live and c) you have a harder time hitting a target which can dodge in 4 directions. than just dodge in 2 directions
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, a) dropping quick only applies to arrows. Arrows have more reach downwards than upwards (against gravity). b) The problem of pikes getting pulled is certainly a problem but there is a simple solution, pay attention and let go of the pike if it gets pulled, then fly away. c) well presumably if you drop down as a group of flyers, on a group in formation, the folks on the grounds cannot move too much because they will bump into each other. And even if you manage to dodge a blow, it doesn't matter if by doing so you open up an ally for a blow from a pike.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
And another problem: wings are requiring much space, so the density of the spears definetly decreases. You generally would want to not go in melee combat as a anglar. Maybe it's just for 1v1 actions ...
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, there might be lower density but with a pike there is more reach, so certainly one flyer could hit the target of another flyer even if it is a little way over. I would advise against going 1v1 with a pike since that is not what pikes are designed for.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
well, when fighting with pike from above, the aglars have to keep in mind that: a) they might drop quick, but can't get up that quick, and b) when the weapon is catched, they will possibly their weapon or their live and c) you have a harder time hitting a target which can dodge in 4 directions. than just dodge in 2 directions
– Jannis
1 hour ago
well, when fighting with pike from above, the aglars have to keep in mind that: a) they might drop quick, but can't get up that quick, and b) when the weapon is catched, they will possibly their weapon or their live and c) you have a harder time hitting a target which can dodge in 4 directions. than just dodge in 2 directions
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, a) dropping quick only applies to arrows. Arrows have more reach downwards than upwards (against gravity). b) The problem of pikes getting pulled is certainly a problem but there is a simple solution, pay attention and let go of the pike if it gets pulled, then fly away. c) well presumably if you drop down as a group of flyers, on a group in formation, the folks on the grounds cannot move too much because they will bump into each other. And even if you manage to dodge a blow, it doesn't matter if by doing so you open up an ally for a blow from a pike.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
@Jannis, a) dropping quick only applies to arrows. Arrows have more reach downwards than upwards (against gravity). b) The problem of pikes getting pulled is certainly a problem but there is a simple solution, pay attention and let go of the pike if it gets pulled, then fly away. c) well presumably if you drop down as a group of flyers, on a group in formation, the folks on the grounds cannot move too much because they will bump into each other. And even if you manage to dodge a blow, it doesn't matter if by doing so you open up an ally for a blow from a pike.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
And another problem: wings are requiring much space, so the density of the spears definetly decreases. You generally would want to not go in melee combat as a anglar. Maybe it's just for 1v1 actions ...
– Jannis
1 hour ago
And another problem: wings are requiring much space, so the density of the spears definetly decreases. You generally would want to not go in melee combat as a anglar. Maybe it's just for 1v1 actions ...
– Jannis
1 hour ago
@Jannis, there might be lower density but with a pike there is more reach, so certainly one flyer could hit the target of another flyer even if it is a little way over. I would advise against going 1v1 with a pike since that is not what pikes are designed for.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
@Jannis, there might be lower density but with a pike there is more reach, so certainly one flyer could hit the target of another flyer even if it is a little way over. I would advise against going 1v1 with a pike since that is not what pikes are designed for.
– Tyler S. Loeper
1 hour ago
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How about spiked shoes? They have to come in range to use them, but a 1-2ft blade would let them stay far enough away that they can escape quickly using their wings. Having the blades on their shoes helps because they only risk their legs - not their wings or torsos. Other than that, I don't really see why they would use melee weapons against gravity-bound opponents anyway. They could literally just napalm everyone from a comfortable altitude
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How about spiked shoes? They have to come in range to use them, but a 1-2ft blade would let them stay far enough away that they can escape quickly using their wings. Having the blades on their shoes helps because they only risk their legs - not their wings or torsos. Other than that, I don't really see why they would use melee weapons against gravity-bound opponents anyway. They could literally just napalm everyone from a comfortable altitude
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How about spiked shoes? They have to come in range to use them, but a 1-2ft blade would let them stay far enough away that they can escape quickly using their wings. Having the blades on their shoes helps because they only risk their legs - not their wings or torsos. Other than that, I don't really see why they would use melee weapons against gravity-bound opponents anyway. They could literally just napalm everyone from a comfortable altitude
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How about spiked shoes? They have to come in range to use them, but a 1-2ft blade would let them stay far enough away that they can escape quickly using their wings. Having the blades on their shoes helps because they only risk their legs - not their wings or torsos. Other than that, I don't really see why they would use melee weapons against gravity-bound opponents anyway. They could literally just napalm everyone from a comfortable altitude
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A war scythe is a good idea, because it gives a lot of cutting power.
But it has a problem, the edge is in the concave part, inside. If your winged humans make a passing attack (and they will unless they fly too slowly or they are capable of staying stationary in mid air), they will get "stuck". If they don't release the weapon, they can even bounce on their target.
So let's look at the same weapon with the edge on the convex part, a fauchard.
Or bill, guisarme or any other names these kind of polearms had. Aside of D&D, nobody cares and in the Middle Ages even less.
Not only you have a point for stabbing (with a lunge), you can cut with a passing flight.
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A war scythe is a good idea, because it gives a lot of cutting power.
But it has a problem, the edge is in the concave part, inside. If your winged humans make a passing attack (and they will unless they fly too slowly or they are capable of staying stationary in mid air), they will get "stuck". If they don't release the weapon, they can even bounce on their target.
So let's look at the same weapon with the edge on the convex part, a fauchard.
Or bill, guisarme or any other names these kind of polearms had. Aside of D&D, nobody cares and in the Middle Ages even less.
Not only you have a point for stabbing (with a lunge), you can cut with a passing flight.
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A war scythe is a good idea, because it gives a lot of cutting power.
But it has a problem, the edge is in the concave part, inside. If your winged humans make a passing attack (and they will unless they fly too slowly or they are capable of staying stationary in mid air), they will get "stuck". If they don't release the weapon, they can even bounce on their target.
So let's look at the same weapon with the edge on the convex part, a fauchard.
Or bill, guisarme or any other names these kind of polearms had. Aside of D&D, nobody cares and in the Middle Ages even less.
Not only you have a point for stabbing (with a lunge), you can cut with a passing flight.
A war scythe is a good idea, because it gives a lot of cutting power.
But it has a problem, the edge is in the concave part, inside. If your winged humans make a passing attack (and they will unless they fly too slowly or they are capable of staying stationary in mid air), they will get "stuck". If they don't release the weapon, they can even bounce on their target.
So let's look at the same weapon with the edge on the convex part, a fauchard.
Or bill, guisarme or any other names these kind of polearms had. Aside of D&D, nobody cares and in the Middle Ages even less.
Not only you have a point for stabbing (with a lunge), you can cut with a passing flight.
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Possible duplicate of Aerial combat: winged humans
– Mołot
3 hours ago
If you can fly and hit your enemy from above, why would you get close to their weapons?
– L.Dutch♦
3 hours ago
More effective due to no fear of running out of ammo. Also they would get tired flying all the time, as swinging a weapon while simultaneously flying would be a much greater physical strain.
– Spark warrior777
3 hours ago
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Spears might be great. Spears are very effective (and lethal). The only way to counter is shooting a projectile, using a spear too, or closing up the gap. due to a flap with the wings anglars can hold the gap pretty good. This might help too. Also spears are better throwable than swords
– Jannis
2 hours ago
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if "below is a mist covered cassm that falls for many fathoms.unable to know if it has a bottom", how can "an earthquake (destroy) there[sic] home"?
– RonJohn
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