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Our flight was delayed from take off because the captain reported it to be out of trim. What does this mean?
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Did you notice people being shifted to different seats during the delay? For center of gravity purposes, the cabin is divided into zones. It's possible that the actual assigned seats filled left one or more zones "underweight" you might say, due to ppl not showing up. If this was the case you'd have seen the Flight Atts requesting people to move to different seats.
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Our flight was delayed from take off because the captain reported it to be out of trim. What does this mean?
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Did you notice people being shifted to different seats during the delay? For center of gravity purposes, the cabin is divided into zones. It's possible that the actual assigned seats filled left one or more zones "underweight" you might say, due to ppl not showing up. If this was the case you'd have seen the Flight Atts requesting people to move to different seats.
– John K
29 mins ago
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Did you notice people being shifted to different seats during the delay? For center of gravity purposes, the cabin is divided into zones. It's possible that the actual assigned seats filled left one or more zones "underweight" you might say, due to ppl not showing up. If this was the case you'd have seen the Flight Atts requesting people to move to different seats.
– John K
29 mins ago
Did you notice people being shifted to different seats during the delay? For center of gravity purposes, the cabin is divided into zones. It's possible that the actual assigned seats filled left one or more zones "underweight" you might say, due to ppl not showing up. If this was the case you'd have seen the Flight Atts requesting people to move to different seats.
– John K
29 mins ago
Did you notice people being shifted to different seats during the delay? For center of gravity purposes, the cabin is divided into zones. It's possible that the actual assigned seats filled left one or more zones "underweight" you might say, due to ppl not showing up. If this was the case you'd have seen the Flight Atts requesting people to move to different seats.
– John K
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In this context, it would mean the aircraft is loaded in such a way that the Center of Gravity is too far forward or aft. That's actually not the way we usually use the word "trim" in aviation but it's what it means in this case.
answered 1 hour ago
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"Trim" is the ability to correct for deviations in flight controls by prepositioning the flight surfaces for a particular direction. For example, if the aircraft is pitching up a bit by default, you can trim down in order to counteract it.
"Out of trim" would mean that the Aircraft has either been improperly trimmed, or is operating outside of the range trim can be applied. (If the aircraft is pulling down hard, you can only trim up so much.) This can be due to a mechanical defect, improper weight and balance, or other issues. He may not be able to safely guarantee the aircraft is trimmed in such conditions.
There is a related question here that explains it in further detail:
What is an out-of-trim condition and how is it detected?
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This can, however, only be detected when flying. On the ground, “out of trim” means balance out of limits.
– Jan Hudec
45 mins ago
Trim controls speed. The airplane will seek, in the absence of a pilot elevator input, a given speed based on where the trim device, tab or moveable stabilizer, is set. If an airplane is pitching up as in your example,it means it's going faster than its trim speed and is trying to slow down to achieve equilibrium. When you adjust the trim nose down to stop a pitch movement, you are increasing the airplane's trim speed to match its current speed.
– John K
39 mins ago
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In this context, it would mean the aircraft is loaded in such a way that the Center of Gravity is too far forward or aft. That's actually not the way we usually use the word "trim" in aviation but it's what it means in this case.
answered 1 hour ago
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In this context, it would mean the aircraft is loaded in such a way that the Center of Gravity is too far forward or aft. That's actually not the way we usually use the word "trim" in aviation but it's what it means in this case.
answered 1 hour ago
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In this context, it would mean the aircraft is loaded in such a way that the Center of Gravity is too far forward or aft. That's actually not the way we usually use the word "trim" in aviation but it's what it means in this case.
answered 1 hour ago
quiet flyer
1,037323
In this context, it would mean the aircraft is loaded in such a way that the Center of Gravity is too far forward or aft. That's actually not the way we usually use the word "trim" in aviation but it's what it means in this case.
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"Trim" is the ability to correct for deviations in flight controls by prepositioning the flight surfaces for a particular direction. For example, if the aircraft is pitching up a bit by default, you can trim down in order to counteract it.
"Out of trim" would mean that the Aircraft has either been improperly trimmed, or is operating outside of the range trim can be applied. (If the aircraft is pulling down hard, you can only trim up so much.) This can be due to a mechanical defect, improper weight and balance, or other issues. He may not be able to safely guarantee the aircraft is trimmed in such conditions.
There is a related question here that explains it in further detail:
What is an out-of-trim condition and how is it detected?
answered 1 hour ago
Matt
1,433420
1
This can, however, only be detected when flying. On the ground, “out of trim” means balance out of limits.
– Jan Hudec
45 mins ago
Trim controls speed. The airplane will seek, in the absence of a pilot elevator input, a given speed based on where the trim device, tab or moveable stabilizer, is set. If an airplane is pitching up as in your example,it means it's going faster than its trim speed and is trying to slow down to achieve equilibrium. When you adjust the trim nose down to stop a pitch movement, you are increasing the airplane's trim speed to match its current speed.
– John K
39 mins ago
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"Trim" is the ability to correct for deviations in flight controls by prepositioning the flight surfaces for a particular direction. For example, if the aircraft is pitching up a bit by default, you can trim down in order to counteract it.
"Out of trim" would mean that the Aircraft has either been improperly trimmed, or is operating outside of the range trim can be applied. (If the aircraft is pulling down hard, you can only trim up so much.) This can be due to a mechanical defect, improper weight and balance, or other issues. He may not be able to safely guarantee the aircraft is trimmed in such conditions.
There is a related question here that explains it in further detail:
What is an out-of-trim condition and how is it detected?
answered 1 hour ago
Matt
1,433420
1
This can, however, only be detected when flying. On the ground, “out of trim” means balance out of limits.
– Jan Hudec
45 mins ago
Trim controls speed. The airplane will seek, in the absence of a pilot elevator input, a given speed based on where the trim device, tab or moveable stabilizer, is set. If an airplane is pitching up as in your example,it means it's going faster than its trim speed and is trying to slow down to achieve equilibrium. When you adjust the trim nose down to stop a pitch movement, you are increasing the airplane's trim speed to match its current speed.
– John K
39 mins ago
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"Trim" is the ability to correct for deviations in flight controls by prepositioning the flight surfaces for a particular direction. For example, if the aircraft is pitching up a bit by default, you can trim down in order to counteract it.
"Out of trim" would mean that the Aircraft has either been improperly trimmed, or is operating outside of the range trim can be applied. (If the aircraft is pulling down hard, you can only trim up so much.) This can be due to a mechanical defect, improper weight and balance, or other issues. He may not be able to safely guarantee the aircraft is trimmed in such conditions.
There is a related question here that explains it in further detail:
What is an out-of-trim condition and how is it detected?
answered 1 hour ago
Matt
1,433420
"Trim" is the ability to correct for deviations in flight controls by prepositioning the flight surfaces for a particular direction. For example, if the aircraft is pitching up a bit by default, you can trim down in order to counteract it.
"Out of trim" would mean that the Aircraft has either been improperly trimmed, or is operating outside of the range trim can be applied. (If the aircraft is pulling down hard, you can only trim up so much.) This can be due to a mechanical defect, improper weight and balance, or other issues. He may not be able to safely guarantee the aircraft is trimmed in such conditions.
There is a related question here that explains it in further detail:
What is an out-of-trim condition and how is it detected?
answered 1 hour ago
Matt
1,433420
edited 1 hour ago
answered 1 hour ago
Matt
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answered 1 hour ago
Matt
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Matt
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This can, however, only be detected when flying. On the ground, “out of trim” means balance out of limits.
– Jan Hudec
45 mins ago
Trim controls speed. The airplane will seek, in the absence of a pilot elevator input, a given speed based on where the trim device, tab or moveable stabilizer, is set. If an airplane is pitching up as in your example,it means it's going faster than its trim speed and is trying to slow down to achieve equilibrium. When you adjust the trim nose down to stop a pitch movement, you are increasing the airplane's trim speed to match its current speed.
– John K
39 mins ago
add a comment |
1
This can, however, only be detected when flying. On the ground, “out of trim” means balance out of limits.
– Jan Hudec
45 mins ago
Trim controls speed. The airplane will seek, in the absence of a pilot elevator input, a given speed based on where the trim device, tab or moveable stabilizer, is set. If an airplane is pitching up as in your example,it means it's going faster than its trim speed and is trying to slow down to achieve equilibrium. When you adjust the trim nose down to stop a pitch movement, you are increasing the airplane's trim speed to match its current speed.
– John K
39 mins ago
1
1
This can, however, only be detected when flying. On the ground, “out of trim” means balance out of limits.
– Jan Hudec
45 mins ago
This can, however, only be detected when flying. On the ground, “out of trim” means balance out of limits.
– Jan Hudec
45 mins ago
Trim controls speed. The airplane will seek, in the absence of a pilot elevator input, a given speed based on where the trim device, tab or moveable stabilizer, is set. If an airplane is pitching up as in your example,it means it's going faster than its trim speed and is trying to slow down to achieve equilibrium. When you adjust the trim nose down to stop a pitch movement, you are increasing the airplane's trim speed to match its current speed.
– John K
39 mins ago
Trim controls speed. The airplane will seek, in the absence of a pilot elevator input, a given speed based on where the trim device, tab or moveable stabilizer, is set. If an airplane is pitching up as in your example,it means it's going faster than its trim speed and is trying to slow down to achieve equilibrium. When you adjust the trim nose down to stop a pitch movement, you are increasing the airplane's trim speed to match its current speed.
– John K
39 mins ago
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Did you notice people being shifted to different seats during the delay? For center of gravity purposes, the cabin is divided into zones. It's possible that the actual assigned seats filled left one or more zones "underweight" you might say, due to ppl not showing up. If this was the case you'd have seen the Flight Atts requesting people to move to different seats.
– John K
29 mins ago