How would a long pole be transported to space?

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Can a long pole/s be strapped to a rocket without interfering with the aerodynamics of the rocket? How would a very long thin pole .5 km or longer be transported to orbit?



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    Can a long pole/s be strapped to a rocket without interfering with the aerodynamics of the rocket? How would a very long thin pole .5 km or longer be transported to orbit?



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      Can a long pole/s be strapped to a rocket without interfering with the aerodynamics of the rocket? How would a very long thin pole .5 km or longer be transported to orbit?



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      Can a long pole/s be strapped to a rocket without interfering with the aerodynamics of the rocket? How would a very long thin pole .5 km or longer be transported to orbit?



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          A 500m pole would have a very significant effect on the rocket aerodynamics because it will disturb the airflow above the rocket; increasing the drag. Especially once supersonic.



          The drag would be monstrous, and it would need to survive the strong forces of Max Q, and the high Gs of launch.



          This leaves us with a somewhat inextricable problem, and out good old friend: the tyranny of the rocket equation:



          • To survive Max G/Q it need to be reinforced => It need to be made heavier => It need a bigger rocket.

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          • To survive Max G/Q it need to be launched more slowly => It need a bigger rocket

          However; a foldable/telescopic 500m pole should be plausible.






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            The ISS solar array masts are launched collapsed in canisters, and run through a deployer mechanism to erect them as a long straight object. I see no technical reason why a much longer mast couldn't use this system.



            For details see this question and answer: How do the booms on ISS (and other spacecraft) extend and retract?






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              A 500m pole would have a very significant effect on the rocket aerodynamics because it will disturb the airflow above the rocket; increasing the drag. Especially once supersonic.



              The drag would be monstrous, and it would need to survive the strong forces of Max Q, and the high Gs of launch.



              This leaves us with a somewhat inextricable problem, and out good old friend: the tyranny of the rocket equation:



              • To survive Max G/Q it need to be reinforced => It need to be made heavier => It need a bigger rocket.

              OR



              • To survive Max G/Q it need to be launched more slowly => It need a bigger rocket

              However; a foldable/telescopic 500m pole should be plausible.






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                A 500m pole would have a very significant effect on the rocket aerodynamics because it will disturb the airflow above the rocket; increasing the drag. Especially once supersonic.



                The drag would be monstrous, and it would need to survive the strong forces of Max Q, and the high Gs of launch.



                This leaves us with a somewhat inextricable problem, and out good old friend: the tyranny of the rocket equation:



                • To survive Max G/Q it need to be reinforced => It need to be made heavier => It need a bigger rocket.

                OR



                • To survive Max G/Q it need to be launched more slowly => It need a bigger rocket

                However; a foldable/telescopic 500m pole should be plausible.






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                  A 500m pole would have a very significant effect on the rocket aerodynamics because it will disturb the airflow above the rocket; increasing the drag. Especially once supersonic.



                  The drag would be monstrous, and it would need to survive the strong forces of Max Q, and the high Gs of launch.



                  This leaves us with a somewhat inextricable problem, and out good old friend: the tyranny of the rocket equation:



                  • To survive Max G/Q it need to be reinforced => It need to be made heavier => It need a bigger rocket.

                  OR



                  • To survive Max G/Q it need to be launched more slowly => It need a bigger rocket

                  However; a foldable/telescopic 500m pole should be plausible.






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                  A 500m pole would have a very significant effect on the rocket aerodynamics because it will disturb the airflow above the rocket; increasing the drag. Especially once supersonic.



                  The drag would be monstrous, and it would need to survive the strong forces of Max Q, and the high Gs of launch.



                  This leaves us with a somewhat inextricable problem, and out good old friend: the tyranny of the rocket equation:



                  • To survive Max G/Q it need to be reinforced => It need to be made heavier => It need a bigger rocket.

                  OR



                  • To survive Max G/Q it need to be launched more slowly => It need a bigger rocket

                  However; a foldable/telescopic 500m pole should be plausible.







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                      The ISS solar array masts are launched collapsed in canisters, and run through a deployer mechanism to erect them as a long straight object. I see no technical reason why a much longer mast couldn't use this system.



                      For details see this question and answer: How do the booms on ISS (and other spacecraft) extend and retract?






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                        The ISS solar array masts are launched collapsed in canisters, and run through a deployer mechanism to erect them as a long straight object. I see no technical reason why a much longer mast couldn't use this system.



                        For details see this question and answer: How do the booms on ISS (and other spacecraft) extend and retract?






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                          The ISS solar array masts are launched collapsed in canisters, and run through a deployer mechanism to erect them as a long straight object. I see no technical reason why a much longer mast couldn't use this system.



                          For details see this question and answer: How do the booms on ISS (and other spacecraft) extend and retract?






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                          The ISS solar array masts are launched collapsed in canisters, and run through a deployer mechanism to erect them as a long straight object. I see no technical reason why a much longer mast couldn't use this system.



                          For details see this question and answer: How do the booms on ISS (and other spacecraft) extend and retract?







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