why java lets you cast into collection?

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I have a simple foo class and I am casting to Collection (either Map or List). No compiler error.



public class Foo 

public List<String> getCollectionCast()
return (List<String>) this; //no compiler error


public Map<String, String> getCollection2Cast()
return (Map<String, String>) this; //no compiler error


public Other getCast()
return (Other)this; //incompatible types, Cannot cast Foo to Other


public static class Other
// Just for casting demo





My question is: Why java compiler does not return incompatible types error when I try to cast the Foo class into a collection?



Foo class does not implement Collection.
I would expect incompatible types error, because given the current Foo class signature, this cannot be a Collection.










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    You could write a subclass of Foo that implements List or Map.
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  • Yes I know. My question is why java compiler does not show me incompatibles types error, as it shows when I try to cast Foo to Other (as expected)
    – istovatis
    41 mins ago







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    @istovatis because Other is a class, and a subclass of Foo cannot also extend Other.
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I have a simple foo class and I am casting to Collection (either Map or List). No compiler error.



public class Foo 

public List<String> getCollectionCast()
return (List<String>) this; //no compiler error


public Map<String, String> getCollection2Cast()
return (Map<String, String>) this; //no compiler error


public Other getCast()
return (Other)this; //incompatible types, Cannot cast Foo to Other


public static class Other
// Just for casting demo





My question is: Why java compiler does not return incompatible types error when I try to cast the Foo class into a collection?



Foo class does not implement Collection.
I would expect incompatible types error, because given the current Foo class signature, this cannot be a Collection.










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    You could write a subclass of Foo that implements List or Map.
    – khelwood
    42 mins ago











  • Yes I know. My question is why java compiler does not show me incompatibles types error, as it shows when I try to cast Foo to Other (as expected)
    – istovatis
    41 mins ago







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    @istovatis because Other is a class, and a subclass of Foo cannot also extend Other.
    – Andy Turner
    40 mins ago













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I have a simple foo class and I am casting to Collection (either Map or List). No compiler error.



public class Foo 

public List<String> getCollectionCast()
return (List<String>) this; //no compiler error


public Map<String, String> getCollection2Cast()
return (Map<String, String>) this; //no compiler error


public Other getCast()
return (Other)this; //incompatible types, Cannot cast Foo to Other


public static class Other
// Just for casting demo





My question is: Why java compiler does not return incompatible types error when I try to cast the Foo class into a collection?



Foo class does not implement Collection.
I would expect incompatible types error, because given the current Foo class signature, this cannot be a Collection.










share|improve this question















I have a simple foo class and I am casting to Collection (either Map or List). No compiler error.



public class Foo 

public List<String> getCollectionCast()
return (List<String>) this; //no compiler error


public Map<String, String> getCollection2Cast()
return (Map<String, String>) this; //no compiler error


public Other getCast()
return (Other)this; //incompatible types, Cannot cast Foo to Other


public static class Other
// Just for casting demo





My question is: Why java compiler does not return incompatible types error when I try to cast the Foo class into a collection?



Foo class does not implement Collection.
I would expect incompatible types error, because given the current Foo class signature, this cannot be a Collection.







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  • 4




    You could write a subclass of Foo that implements List or Map.
    – khelwood
    42 mins ago











  • Yes I know. My question is why java compiler does not show me incompatibles types error, as it shows when I try to cast Foo to Other (as expected)
    – istovatis
    41 mins ago







  • 1




    @istovatis because Other is a class, and a subclass of Foo cannot also extend Other.
    – Andy Turner
    40 mins ago













  • 4




    You could write a subclass of Foo that implements List or Map.
    – khelwood
    42 mins ago











  • Yes I know. My question is why java compiler does not show me incompatibles types error, as it shows when I try to cast Foo to Other (as expected)
    – istovatis
    41 mins ago







  • 1




    @istovatis because Other is a class, and a subclass of Foo cannot also extend Other.
    – Andy Turner
    40 mins ago








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4




You could write a subclass of Foo that implements List or Map.
– khelwood
42 mins ago





You could write a subclass of Foo that implements List or Map.
– khelwood
42 mins ago













Yes I know. My question is why java compiler does not show me incompatibles types error, as it shows when I try to cast Foo to Other (as expected)
– istovatis
41 mins ago





Yes I know. My question is why java compiler does not show me incompatibles types error, as it shows when I try to cast Foo to Other (as expected)
– istovatis
41 mins ago





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1




@istovatis because Other is a class, and a subclass of Foo cannot also extend Other.
– Andy Turner
40 mins ago





@istovatis because Other is a class, and a subclass of Foo cannot also extend Other.
– Andy Turner
40 mins ago













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It's not because they're collection classes, it's because they're interfaces. Foo doesn't implement them, but subclasses of it could. So it's not a compile-time error, since those methods may be valid for subclasses. At runtime, if this isn't of a class that implements those interfaces, naturally it's a runtime error.



If you change List<String> to ArrayList<String>, you'll get a compiler-time error for that, too, since a Foo subclass could implement List, but can't extend ArrayList (since Foo doesn't). Similarly, if you make Foo final, the compiler will give you an error for your interface casts because it knows they can never be true (since Foo can't have subclasses, and doesn't implement those interfaces).






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    The compiler doesn't prevent code from casting a type to an interface, unless it can establish for sure that the relationship is impossible.



    If the target type is an interface, then it makes sense because a class extending Foo can implement Map<String, String>. However, note that this only works as Foo is not final. If you declared your class with final class Foo, that cast would not work.



    If the target type is a class, then in this case it would simply fail (try (HashMap<String, String>) this), because the compiler knows for certain that the relationship between Foo and HashMap is impossible.



    As a reference this rules are described in JLS-5.5.1 (T = target type - Map<String, String>, S = source type - Foo)




    If T [target type] is an interface type:



    • If S is not a final class (§8.1.1), then, if there exists a supertype X of T, and a supertype Y of S, such that both X and Y are provably distinct parameterized types, and that the erasures of X and Y are the same, a compile-time error occurs.

      Otherwise, the cast is always legal at compile time (because even if S does not implement T, a subclass of S might).


    • If S is a final class (§8.1.1), then S must implement T, or a compile-time error occurs.




    Note the bold-italic comment in the quoted text.






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      Indeed, cast is not permitted even though for interfaces when the class is turned into final
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    It's not because they're collection classes, it's because they're interfaces. Foo doesn't implement them, but subclasses of it could. So it's not a compile-time error, since those methods may be valid for subclasses. At runtime, if this isn't of a class that implements those interfaces, naturally it's a runtime error.



    If you change List<String> to ArrayList<String>, you'll get a compiler-time error for that, too, since a Foo subclass could implement List, but can't extend ArrayList (since Foo doesn't). Similarly, if you make Foo final, the compiler will give you an error for your interface casts because it knows they can never be true (since Foo can't have subclasses, and doesn't implement those interfaces).






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      It's not because they're collection classes, it's because they're interfaces. Foo doesn't implement them, but subclasses of it could. So it's not a compile-time error, since those methods may be valid for subclasses. At runtime, if this isn't of a class that implements those interfaces, naturally it's a runtime error.



      If you change List<String> to ArrayList<String>, you'll get a compiler-time error for that, too, since a Foo subclass could implement List, but can't extend ArrayList (since Foo doesn't). Similarly, if you make Foo final, the compiler will give you an error for your interface casts because it knows they can never be true (since Foo can't have subclasses, and doesn't implement those interfaces).






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        It's not because they're collection classes, it's because they're interfaces. Foo doesn't implement them, but subclasses of it could. So it's not a compile-time error, since those methods may be valid for subclasses. At runtime, if this isn't of a class that implements those interfaces, naturally it's a runtime error.



        If you change List<String> to ArrayList<String>, you'll get a compiler-time error for that, too, since a Foo subclass could implement List, but can't extend ArrayList (since Foo doesn't). Similarly, if you make Foo final, the compiler will give you an error for your interface casts because it knows they can never be true (since Foo can't have subclasses, and doesn't implement those interfaces).






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        It's not because they're collection classes, it's because they're interfaces. Foo doesn't implement them, but subclasses of it could. So it's not a compile-time error, since those methods may be valid for subclasses. At runtime, if this isn't of a class that implements those interfaces, naturally it's a runtime error.



        If you change List<String> to ArrayList<String>, you'll get a compiler-time error for that, too, since a Foo subclass could implement List, but can't extend ArrayList (since Foo doesn't). Similarly, if you make Foo final, the compiler will give you an error for your interface casts because it knows they can never be true (since Foo can't have subclasses, and doesn't implement those interfaces).







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            The compiler doesn't prevent code from casting a type to an interface, unless it can establish for sure that the relationship is impossible.



            If the target type is an interface, then it makes sense because a class extending Foo can implement Map<String, String>. However, note that this only works as Foo is not final. If you declared your class with final class Foo, that cast would not work.



            If the target type is a class, then in this case it would simply fail (try (HashMap<String, String>) this), because the compiler knows for certain that the relationship between Foo and HashMap is impossible.



            As a reference this rules are described in JLS-5.5.1 (T = target type - Map<String, String>, S = source type - Foo)




            If T [target type] is an interface type:



            • If S is not a final class (§8.1.1), then, if there exists a supertype X of T, and a supertype Y of S, such that both X and Y are provably distinct parameterized types, and that the erasures of X and Y are the same, a compile-time error occurs.

              Otherwise, the cast is always legal at compile time (because even if S does not implement T, a subclass of S might).


            • If S is a final class (§8.1.1), then S must implement T, or a compile-time error occurs.




            Note the bold-italic comment in the quoted text.






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              Indeed, cast is not permitted even though for interfaces when the class is turned into final
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            The compiler doesn't prevent code from casting a type to an interface, unless it can establish for sure that the relationship is impossible.



            If the target type is an interface, then it makes sense because a class extending Foo can implement Map<String, String>. However, note that this only works as Foo is not final. If you declared your class with final class Foo, that cast would not work.



            If the target type is a class, then in this case it would simply fail (try (HashMap<String, String>) this), because the compiler knows for certain that the relationship between Foo and HashMap is impossible.



            As a reference this rules are described in JLS-5.5.1 (T = target type - Map<String, String>, S = source type - Foo)




            If T [target type] is an interface type:



            • If S is not a final class (§8.1.1), then, if there exists a supertype X of T, and a supertype Y of S, such that both X and Y are provably distinct parameterized types, and that the erasures of X and Y are the same, a compile-time error occurs.

              Otherwise, the cast is always legal at compile time (because even if S does not implement T, a subclass of S might).


            • If S is a final class (§8.1.1), then S must implement T, or a compile-time error occurs.




            Note the bold-italic comment in the quoted text.






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              Indeed, cast is not permitted even though for interfaces when the class is turned into final
              – istovatis
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            up vote
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            The compiler doesn't prevent code from casting a type to an interface, unless it can establish for sure that the relationship is impossible.



            If the target type is an interface, then it makes sense because a class extending Foo can implement Map<String, String>. However, note that this only works as Foo is not final. If you declared your class with final class Foo, that cast would not work.



            If the target type is a class, then in this case it would simply fail (try (HashMap<String, String>) this), because the compiler knows for certain that the relationship between Foo and HashMap is impossible.



            As a reference this rules are described in JLS-5.5.1 (T = target type - Map<String, String>, S = source type - Foo)




            If T [target type] is an interface type:



            • If S is not a final class (§8.1.1), then, if there exists a supertype X of T, and a supertype Y of S, such that both X and Y are provably distinct parameterized types, and that the erasures of X and Y are the same, a compile-time error occurs.

              Otherwise, the cast is always legal at compile time (because even if S does not implement T, a subclass of S might).


            • If S is a final class (§8.1.1), then S must implement T, or a compile-time error occurs.




            Note the bold-italic comment in the quoted text.






            share|improve this answer














            The compiler doesn't prevent code from casting a type to an interface, unless it can establish for sure that the relationship is impossible.



            If the target type is an interface, then it makes sense because a class extending Foo can implement Map<String, String>. However, note that this only works as Foo is not final. If you declared your class with final class Foo, that cast would not work.



            If the target type is a class, then in this case it would simply fail (try (HashMap<String, String>) this), because the compiler knows for certain that the relationship between Foo and HashMap is impossible.



            As a reference this rules are described in JLS-5.5.1 (T = target type - Map<String, String>, S = source type - Foo)




            If T [target type] is an interface type:



            • If S is not a final class (§8.1.1), then, if there exists a supertype X of T, and a supertype Y of S, such that both X and Y are provably distinct parameterized types, and that the erasures of X and Y are the same, a compile-time error occurs.

              Otherwise, the cast is always legal at compile time (because even if S does not implement T, a subclass of S might).


            • If S is a final class (§8.1.1), then S must implement T, or a compile-time error occurs.




            Note the bold-italic comment in the quoted text.







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              Indeed, cast is not permitted even though for interfaces when the class is turned into final
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              Indeed, cast is not permitted even though for interfaces when the class is turned into final
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            Indeed, cast is not permitted even though for interfaces when the class is turned into final
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