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There are some spells and perks that require not having armor on to work, so how is armor defined?
Is it just any equippable gear that has additional AC? Is it anything more durable than regular fabric (like leather)?
Mechanically speaking, if I start wearing something that boosts my AC, like a single gauntlet, would that end Stone's Durability, Mage Armor, or Unarmored Defense?
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There are some spells and perks that require not having armor on to work, so how is armor defined?
Is it just any equippable gear that has additional AC? Is it anything more durable than regular fabric (like leather)?
Mechanically speaking, if I start wearing something that boosts my AC, like a single gauntlet, would that end Stone's Durability, Mage Armor, or Unarmored Defense?
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Related: Does Mage Armor count as armor for the monk's class features?, Is a Shield considered to be Armor when addressing Armor Proficiency?, Do Bracers of Defense stack with Mage Armor? (this last one is directly relevant to your last question)
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(Also, note that "a single bracer/gauntlet" wouldn't give you any benefit, assuming it's one of a pair like the Bracers of Defense. You'd need both.)
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2 hours ago
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I changed Unarmored Defence to Unarmored Defense. Normally I wouldn't be so picky about American vs English spelling (both are fine on RPG.SE), but technically "Unarmored Defense" is the name of a class feature, so I thought it best to preserve the feature's spelling.
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There are some spells and perks that require not having armor on to work, so how is armor defined?
Is it just any equippable gear that has additional AC? Is it anything more durable than regular fabric (like leather)?
Mechanically speaking, if I start wearing something that boosts my AC, like a single gauntlet, would that end Stone's Durability, Mage Armor, or Unarmored Defense?
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There are some spells and perks that require not having armor on to work, so how is armor defined?
Is it just any equippable gear that has additional AC? Is it anything more durable than regular fabric (like leather)?
Mechanically speaking, if I start wearing something that boosts my AC, like a single gauntlet, would that end Stone's Durability, Mage Armor, or Unarmored Defense?
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Related: Does Mage Armor count as armor for the monk's class features?, Is a Shield considered to be Armor when addressing Armor Proficiency?, Do Bracers of Defense stack with Mage Armor? (this last one is directly relevant to your last question)
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(Also, note that "a single bracer/gauntlet" wouldn't give you any benefit, assuming it's one of a pair like the Bracers of Defense. You'd need both.)
– V2Blast
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I changed Unarmored Defence to Unarmored Defense. Normally I wouldn't be so picky about American vs English spelling (both are fine on RPG.SE), but technically "Unarmored Defense" is the name of a class feature, so I thought it best to preserve the feature's spelling.
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Related: Does Mage Armor count as armor for the monk's class features?, Is a Shield considered to be Armor when addressing Armor Proficiency?, Do Bracers of Defense stack with Mage Armor? (this last one is directly relevant to your last question)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
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(Also, note that "a single bracer/gauntlet" wouldn't give you any benefit, assuming it's one of a pair like the Bracers of Defense. You'd need both.)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
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I changed Unarmored Defence to Unarmored Defense. Normally I wouldn't be so picky about American vs English spelling (both are fine on RPG.SE), but technically "Unarmored Defense" is the name of a class feature, so I thought it best to preserve the feature's spelling.
– NathanS
1 hour ago
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Related: Does Mage Armor count as armor for the monk's class features?, Is a Shield considered to be Armor when addressing Armor Proficiency?, Do Bracers of Defense stack with Mage Armor? (this last one is directly relevant to your last question)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
Related: Does Mage Armor count as armor for the monk's class features?, Is a Shield considered to be Armor when addressing Armor Proficiency?, Do Bracers of Defense stack with Mage Armor? (this last one is directly relevant to your last question)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
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(Also, note that "a single bracer/gauntlet" wouldn't give you any benefit, assuming it's one of a pair like the Bracers of Defense. You'd need both.)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
(Also, note that "a single bracer/gauntlet" wouldn't give you any benefit, assuming it's one of a pair like the Bracers of Defense. You'd need both.)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
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I changed Unarmored Defence to Unarmored Defense. Normally I wouldn't be so picky about American vs English spelling (both are fine on RPG.SE), but technically "Unarmored Defense" is the name of a class feature, so I thought it best to preserve the feature's spelling.
– NathanS
1 hour ago
I changed Unarmored Defence to Unarmored Defense. Normally I wouldn't be so picky about American vs English spelling (both are fine on RPG.SE), but technically "Unarmored Defense" is the name of a class feature, so I thought it best to preserve the feature's spelling.
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Armor refers to a set of armor
Armor is always referred to in sets. Taking the general description of Heavy Armor from the PHB (pg. 145):
Of all the armor categories, heavy armor offers the best protection. These suits of armor cover the entire body and are designed to stop a wide range of attacks.
Also Plate armor specifically, as an example, from the PHB (pg. 145):
Plate. Plate consists of shaped, interlocking metal plates to cover the entire body. A suit of plate includes gauntlets, heavy leather boots, a visored helmet, and thick layers of padding underneath the armor.
Finally, from PHB (pg. 146), the section on Getting Into and Out of Armor says this for donning armor:
Don. This is the time it takes to put on armor. You benefit from the armor's AC only if you take the full time to don the suit of armor.
From this, it appears to me as though armor is supposed to be worn as a suit, and wearing a single gauntlet wouldn't affect your AC at all.
Therefore, no, wearing a gauntlet won't end the Mage Armor spell or interfere with Unarmored Defense or anything like that, since it doesn't affect your AC.
As an aside, some playable races (such as Lizardfolk from Volo's Guide to Monsters) have "natural armor", and according to this answer to a question about natural armor and Unarmored Defense, natural armor isn't compatible with Unarmored Defense, Mage Armor, etc. as it calculates AC differently.
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Perhaps a mention of the natural amour of certain races (which I believe also counts as "armour")?
– PJRZ
1 hour ago
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I am not sure about Natural Armor counting as armor in general, the reason stated for it being incompatible with Unarmored Defense and Mage Armor is because it is a different "armor calculation" method. It is not clear to me that having some form of Natural Armor is incompatible with, say, the Monk's Unarmored Movement
– Sdjz
52 mins ago
@Sdjz. I don't currently have access to the books so didn't want to add my own answer without refs. But personally I would say "armor" is anything that says it is, well, armor! This includes anything listed under the Armor section in the PHB as per NathanS' answer, but also anything named "armor" that just provides a straightforward calculation for AC (like natural armor, which has "armor" right there in the name). This is opposed to, say, an item that just says it provides a +X bonus to AC.
– PJRZ
47 mins ago
@guest I'm glad you like my answer, but generally it's best to wait about 24h before accepting an answer to give people from different time zones a chance to answer, and you may prefer their answers to mine. When a question has an accepted answer, others are less likely to post their own answers.
– NathanS
42 mins ago
@PJRZ Oh to be clear I am not stating that Natural Armor counts or not as armor. All I am saying is that the linked is not saying that either. I actually agree it makes sense for Natural Armor to count as "Armor". My problem is not with the conclusion, my problem was with the argument that the linked answer is stating that natural counts as armor in general which isn't what the answer is saying, if that makes sense. May be better if we hop into Role-playing Games Chat if that isn't clear.
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Armor refers to a set of armor
Armor is always referred to in sets. Taking the general description of Heavy Armor from the PHB (pg. 145):
Of all the armor categories, heavy armor offers the best protection. These suits of armor cover the entire body and are designed to stop a wide range of attacks.
Also Plate armor specifically, as an example, from the PHB (pg. 145):
Plate. Plate consists of shaped, interlocking metal plates to cover the entire body. A suit of plate includes gauntlets, heavy leather boots, a visored helmet, and thick layers of padding underneath the armor.
Finally, from PHB (pg. 146), the section on Getting Into and Out of Armor says this for donning armor:
Don. This is the time it takes to put on armor. You benefit from the armor's AC only if you take the full time to don the suit of armor.
From this, it appears to me as though armor is supposed to be worn as a suit, and wearing a single gauntlet wouldn't affect your AC at all.
Therefore, no, wearing a gauntlet won't end the Mage Armor spell or interfere with Unarmored Defense or anything like that, since it doesn't affect your AC.
As an aside, some playable races (such as Lizardfolk from Volo's Guide to Monsters) have "natural armor", and according to this answer to a question about natural armor and Unarmored Defense, natural armor isn't compatible with Unarmored Defense, Mage Armor, etc. as it calculates AC differently.
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Perhaps a mention of the natural amour of certain races (which I believe also counts as "armour")?
– PJRZ
1 hour ago
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I am not sure about Natural Armor counting as armor in general, the reason stated for it being incompatible with Unarmored Defense and Mage Armor is because it is a different "armor calculation" method. It is not clear to me that having some form of Natural Armor is incompatible with, say, the Monk's Unarmored Movement
– Sdjz
52 mins ago
@Sdjz. I don't currently have access to the books so didn't want to add my own answer without refs. But personally I would say "armor" is anything that says it is, well, armor! This includes anything listed under the Armor section in the PHB as per NathanS' answer, but also anything named "armor" that just provides a straightforward calculation for AC (like natural armor, which has "armor" right there in the name). This is opposed to, say, an item that just says it provides a +X bonus to AC.
– PJRZ
47 mins ago
@guest I'm glad you like my answer, but generally it's best to wait about 24h before accepting an answer to give people from different time zones a chance to answer, and you may prefer their answers to mine. When a question has an accepted answer, others are less likely to post their own answers.
– NathanS
42 mins ago
@PJRZ Oh to be clear I am not stating that Natural Armor counts or not as armor. All I am saying is that the linked is not saying that either. I actually agree it makes sense for Natural Armor to count as "Armor". My problem is not with the conclusion, my problem was with the argument that the linked answer is stating that natural counts as armor in general which isn't what the answer is saying, if that makes sense. May be better if we hop into Role-playing Games Chat if that isn't clear.
– Sdjz
38 mins ago
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Armor refers to a set of armor
Armor is always referred to in sets. Taking the general description of Heavy Armor from the PHB (pg. 145):
Of all the armor categories, heavy armor offers the best protection. These suits of armor cover the entire body and are designed to stop a wide range of attacks.
Also Plate armor specifically, as an example, from the PHB (pg. 145):
Plate. Plate consists of shaped, interlocking metal plates to cover the entire body. A suit of plate includes gauntlets, heavy leather boots, a visored helmet, and thick layers of padding underneath the armor.
Finally, from PHB (pg. 146), the section on Getting Into and Out of Armor says this for donning armor:
Don. This is the time it takes to put on armor. You benefit from the armor's AC only if you take the full time to don the suit of armor.
From this, it appears to me as though armor is supposed to be worn as a suit, and wearing a single gauntlet wouldn't affect your AC at all.
Therefore, no, wearing a gauntlet won't end the Mage Armor spell or interfere with Unarmored Defense or anything like that, since it doesn't affect your AC.
As an aside, some playable races (such as Lizardfolk from Volo's Guide to Monsters) have "natural armor", and according to this answer to a question about natural armor and Unarmored Defense, natural armor isn't compatible with Unarmored Defense, Mage Armor, etc. as it calculates AC differently.
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Perhaps a mention of the natural amour of certain races (which I believe also counts as "armour")?
– PJRZ
1 hour ago
1
I am not sure about Natural Armor counting as armor in general, the reason stated for it being incompatible with Unarmored Defense and Mage Armor is because it is a different "armor calculation" method. It is not clear to me that having some form of Natural Armor is incompatible with, say, the Monk's Unarmored Movement
– Sdjz
52 mins ago
@Sdjz. I don't currently have access to the books so didn't want to add my own answer without refs. But personally I would say "armor" is anything that says it is, well, armor! This includes anything listed under the Armor section in the PHB as per NathanS' answer, but also anything named "armor" that just provides a straightforward calculation for AC (like natural armor, which has "armor" right there in the name). This is opposed to, say, an item that just says it provides a +X bonus to AC.
– PJRZ
47 mins ago
@guest I'm glad you like my answer, but generally it's best to wait about 24h before accepting an answer to give people from different time zones a chance to answer, and you may prefer their answers to mine. When a question has an accepted answer, others are less likely to post their own answers.
– NathanS
42 mins ago
@PJRZ Oh to be clear I am not stating that Natural Armor counts or not as armor. All I am saying is that the linked is not saying that either. I actually agree it makes sense for Natural Armor to count as "Armor". My problem is not with the conclusion, my problem was with the argument that the linked answer is stating that natural counts as armor in general which isn't what the answer is saying, if that makes sense. May be better if we hop into Role-playing Games Chat if that isn't clear.
– Sdjz
38 mins ago
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Armor refers to a set of armor
Armor is always referred to in sets. Taking the general description of Heavy Armor from the PHB (pg. 145):
Of all the armor categories, heavy armor offers the best protection. These suits of armor cover the entire body and are designed to stop a wide range of attacks.
Also Plate armor specifically, as an example, from the PHB (pg. 145):
Plate. Plate consists of shaped, interlocking metal plates to cover the entire body. A suit of plate includes gauntlets, heavy leather boots, a visored helmet, and thick layers of padding underneath the armor.
Finally, from PHB (pg. 146), the section on Getting Into and Out of Armor says this for donning armor:
Don. This is the time it takes to put on armor. You benefit from the armor's AC only if you take the full time to don the suit of armor.
From this, it appears to me as though armor is supposed to be worn as a suit, and wearing a single gauntlet wouldn't affect your AC at all.
Therefore, no, wearing a gauntlet won't end the Mage Armor spell or interfere with Unarmored Defense or anything like that, since it doesn't affect your AC.
As an aside, some playable races (such as Lizardfolk from Volo's Guide to Monsters) have "natural armor", and according to this answer to a question about natural armor and Unarmored Defense, natural armor isn't compatible with Unarmored Defense, Mage Armor, etc. as it calculates AC differently.
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Armor refers to a set of armor
Armor is always referred to in sets. Taking the general description of Heavy Armor from the PHB (pg. 145):
Of all the armor categories, heavy armor offers the best protection. These suits of armor cover the entire body and are designed to stop a wide range of attacks.
Also Plate armor specifically, as an example, from the PHB (pg. 145):
Plate. Plate consists of shaped, interlocking metal plates to cover the entire body. A suit of plate includes gauntlets, heavy leather boots, a visored helmet, and thick layers of padding underneath the armor.
Finally, from PHB (pg. 146), the section on Getting Into and Out of Armor says this for donning armor:
Don. This is the time it takes to put on armor. You benefit from the armor's AC only if you take the full time to don the suit of armor.
From this, it appears to me as though armor is supposed to be worn as a suit, and wearing a single gauntlet wouldn't affect your AC at all.
Therefore, no, wearing a gauntlet won't end the Mage Armor spell or interfere with Unarmored Defense or anything like that, since it doesn't affect your AC.
As an aside, some playable races (such as Lizardfolk from Volo's Guide to Monsters) have "natural armor", and according to this answer to a question about natural armor and Unarmored Defense, natural armor isn't compatible with Unarmored Defense, Mage Armor, etc. as it calculates AC differently.
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Perhaps a mention of the natural amour of certain races (which I believe also counts as "armour")?
– PJRZ
1 hour ago
1
I am not sure about Natural Armor counting as armor in general, the reason stated for it being incompatible with Unarmored Defense and Mage Armor is because it is a different "armor calculation" method. It is not clear to me that having some form of Natural Armor is incompatible with, say, the Monk's Unarmored Movement
– Sdjz
52 mins ago
@Sdjz. I don't currently have access to the books so didn't want to add my own answer without refs. But personally I would say "armor" is anything that says it is, well, armor! This includes anything listed under the Armor section in the PHB as per NathanS' answer, but also anything named "armor" that just provides a straightforward calculation for AC (like natural armor, which has "armor" right there in the name). This is opposed to, say, an item that just says it provides a +X bonus to AC.
– PJRZ
47 mins ago
@guest I'm glad you like my answer, but generally it's best to wait about 24h before accepting an answer to give people from different time zones a chance to answer, and you may prefer their answers to mine. When a question has an accepted answer, others are less likely to post their own answers.
– NathanS
42 mins ago
@PJRZ Oh to be clear I am not stating that Natural Armor counts or not as armor. All I am saying is that the linked is not saying that either. I actually agree it makes sense for Natural Armor to count as "Armor". My problem is not with the conclusion, my problem was with the argument that the linked answer is stating that natural counts as armor in general which isn't what the answer is saying, if that makes sense. May be better if we hop into Role-playing Games Chat if that isn't clear.
– Sdjz
38 mins ago
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Perhaps a mention of the natural amour of certain races (which I believe also counts as "armour")?
– PJRZ
1 hour ago
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I am not sure about Natural Armor counting as armor in general, the reason stated for it being incompatible with Unarmored Defense and Mage Armor is because it is a different "armor calculation" method. It is not clear to me that having some form of Natural Armor is incompatible with, say, the Monk's Unarmored Movement
– Sdjz
52 mins ago
@Sdjz. I don't currently have access to the books so didn't want to add my own answer without refs. But personally I would say "armor" is anything that says it is, well, armor! This includes anything listed under the Armor section in the PHB as per NathanS' answer, but also anything named "armor" that just provides a straightforward calculation for AC (like natural armor, which has "armor" right there in the name). This is opposed to, say, an item that just says it provides a +X bonus to AC.
– PJRZ
47 mins ago
@guest I'm glad you like my answer, but generally it's best to wait about 24h before accepting an answer to give people from different time zones a chance to answer, and you may prefer their answers to mine. When a question has an accepted answer, others are less likely to post their own answers.
– NathanS
42 mins ago
@PJRZ Oh to be clear I am not stating that Natural Armor counts or not as armor. All I am saying is that the linked is not saying that either. I actually agree it makes sense for Natural Armor to count as "Armor". My problem is not with the conclusion, my problem was with the argument that the linked answer is stating that natural counts as armor in general which isn't what the answer is saying, if that makes sense. May be better if we hop into Role-playing Games Chat if that isn't clear.
– Sdjz
38 mins ago
1
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Perhaps a mention of the natural amour of certain races (which I believe also counts as "armour")?
– PJRZ
1 hour ago
Perhaps a mention of the natural amour of certain races (which I believe also counts as "armour")?
– PJRZ
1 hour ago
1
1
I am not sure about Natural Armor counting as armor in general, the reason stated for it being incompatible with Unarmored Defense and Mage Armor is because it is a different "armor calculation" method. It is not clear to me that having some form of Natural Armor is incompatible with, say, the Monk's Unarmored Movement
– Sdjz
52 mins ago
I am not sure about Natural Armor counting as armor in general, the reason stated for it being incompatible with Unarmored Defense and Mage Armor is because it is a different "armor calculation" method. It is not clear to me that having some form of Natural Armor is incompatible with, say, the Monk's Unarmored Movement
– Sdjz
52 mins ago
@Sdjz. I don't currently have access to the books so didn't want to add my own answer without refs. But personally I would say "armor" is anything that says it is, well, armor! This includes anything listed under the Armor section in the PHB as per NathanS' answer, but also anything named "armor" that just provides a straightforward calculation for AC (like natural armor, which has "armor" right there in the name). This is opposed to, say, an item that just says it provides a +X bonus to AC.
– PJRZ
47 mins ago
@Sdjz. I don't currently have access to the books so didn't want to add my own answer without refs. But personally I would say "armor" is anything that says it is, well, armor! This includes anything listed under the Armor section in the PHB as per NathanS' answer, but also anything named "armor" that just provides a straightforward calculation for AC (like natural armor, which has "armor" right there in the name). This is opposed to, say, an item that just says it provides a +X bonus to AC.
– PJRZ
47 mins ago
@guest I'm glad you like my answer, but generally it's best to wait about 24h before accepting an answer to give people from different time zones a chance to answer, and you may prefer their answers to mine. When a question has an accepted answer, others are less likely to post their own answers.
– NathanS
42 mins ago
@guest I'm glad you like my answer, but generally it's best to wait about 24h before accepting an answer to give people from different time zones a chance to answer, and you may prefer their answers to mine. When a question has an accepted answer, others are less likely to post their own answers.
– NathanS
42 mins ago
@PJRZ Oh to be clear I am not stating that Natural Armor counts or not as armor. All I am saying is that the linked is not saying that either. I actually agree it makes sense for Natural Armor to count as "Armor". My problem is not with the conclusion, my problem was with the argument that the linked answer is stating that natural counts as armor in general which isn't what the answer is saying, if that makes sense. May be better if we hop into Role-playing Games Chat if that isn't clear.
– Sdjz
38 mins ago
@PJRZ Oh to be clear I am not stating that Natural Armor counts or not as armor. All I am saying is that the linked is not saying that either. I actually agree it makes sense for Natural Armor to count as "Armor". My problem is not with the conclusion, my problem was with the argument that the linked answer is stating that natural counts as armor in general which isn't what the answer is saying, if that makes sense. May be better if we hop into Role-playing Games Chat if that isn't clear.
– Sdjz
38 mins ago
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Related: Does Mage Armor count as armor for the monk's class features?, Is a Shield considered to be Armor when addressing Armor Proficiency?, Do Bracers of Defense stack with Mage Armor? (this last one is directly relevant to your last question)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
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(Also, note that "a single bracer/gauntlet" wouldn't give you any benefit, assuming it's one of a pair like the Bracers of Defense. You'd need both.)
– V2Blast
2 hours ago
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I changed Unarmored Defence to Unarmored Defense. Normally I wouldn't be so picky about American vs English spelling (both are fine on RPG.SE), but technically "Unarmored Defense" is the name of a class feature, so I thought it best to preserve the feature's spelling.
– NathanS
1 hour ago